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post Jul 5 2010, 01:45 PM

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Kyo's mid-air orochinagi is considered as his 2nd DM/SDM, although it's not really a new move. Yeah i missed his old mu-shiki 2000 version where he punches in ultra-fast motion. But i think that resembles his fire punching self too much so they didn't include it coz it would not suit his current playstyle. But they did use the same phrase "Kore de, Kimeru Ze!" for it.

About the short range projectile issue, i'm not sure maybe they just want to differ him from Robert. Well, they did maintain his newer moves from KOF like the Hien Shippu Kyaku & Tenchi Haohken Fist.

Kim Kaphwan Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMr2rFeQ77o

Damn, so powerfull drool.gif The Phoenix Kick of Justice!

Hwa Jai Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpEQcZ1mBwk

This is what happens when you mix Adon with Joe Higashi.. shocking.gif

Raiden Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVIODHyfTB0

Clothsline from Hell/Super Lariat anyone?? Also a character from FF2.

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post Jul 5 2010, 08:25 PM

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Well, it is kinda shame that this game isn't popular or have enough discussion about it. I guess KoF isn't never popular among other fighting game.

As for KoF XIII Iori, I kinda have mixed feeling for him. Sure that he now pretty dominate in the close range but without the blue flame kind make him not so-Iori to me. I wonder why is he able to fight without the flame....I thought he should ended up like Chizuru, a cripple.

So who is your favorite KoF bosses and game? Just being curious.


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post Jul 5 2010, 08:53 PM

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Being a KOF fan is hard like who are staying far from he big town. Over here, the local arcade only has KOF2002. Hearing all the good things from KOFXIII, I can't help but wonder where or when will I be able to play on one of those machines. Best bet is KL and Penang. Haizz....
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post Jul 5 2010, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jul 5 2010, 08:53 PM)
Being a KOF fan is hard like who are staying far from he big town. Over here, the local arcade only has KOF2002. Hearing all the good things from KOFXIII, I can't help but wonder where or when will I be able to play on one of those machines. Best bet is KL and Penang. Haizz....
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Well, at least your area has the arcade center. Compare to my area, you cannot even find one arcade machine. So no KoF XIII for me until the console release. I can only enjoy the KoF XIII from the youtube site...Haha
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post Jul 6 2010, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(man3k @ Jul 5 2010, 01:45 PM)
Kyo's mid-air orochinagi is considered as his 2nd DM/SDM, although it's not really a new move. Yeah i missed his old mu-shiki 2000 version where he punches in ultra-fast motion. But i think that resembles his fire punching self too much so they didn't include it coz it would not suit his current playstyle. But they did use the same phrase "Kore de, Kimeru Ze!" for it.

About the short range projectile issue, i'm not sure maybe they just want to differ him from Robert. Well, they did maintain his newer moves from KOF like the Hien Shippu Kyaku & Tenchi Haohken Fist.

Kim Kaphwan Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMr2rFeQ77o

Damn, so powerfull drool.gif The Phoenix Kick of Justice!

Hwa Jai Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpEQcZ1mBwk

This is what happens when you mix Adon with Joe Higashi.. shocking.gif Hwa Jai is an old character from Fatal Fury 2. Dunno why they restored this character.

Raiden Combo Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVIODHyfTB0

Clothsline from Hell/Super Lariat anyone?? Also a character from FF2.
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Those looked fantastic.

Is this the one available on PS3?

Combos are quite powerful in KOF, takes out 75% of the opponent's life bar.
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post Jul 6 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kding2 @ Jul 5 2010, 08:25 PM)
Well, it is kinda shame that this game isn't popular or have enough discussion about it.

As for XIII Iori, I kinda have mixed feeling for him. Sure that he now pretty dominate in the close range but without the blue flame kind make him not so-Iori to me. I wonder why is he able to fight without the flame....I thought he should ended up like Chizuru, a cripple.

So who is your favorite KoF bosses and game? Just being curious.
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You won't know about the new iori if you haven't played him. Iori in XII was the worst. Yeah they wanna pull the same thing they did to Kyo back in 99 where he dominates in close range. But due to the less-experienced new production team, XII Iori was short of "connecting skills" and slow in speed compared to other character. His XII form couldn't even face Chin Gentsai. Let alone fight Joe, Robert or even Kyo. It's a death sentence i tell u. sweat.gif Only recently in XIII, Iori has been given the proper speed and skills. Hopefully he'll rise again as top tier.

Actually, i have read Translations of Pre-KOF XIII Story from various forums. They said Kagura Chizuru was only weakened since she was attacked when guarding the orochi seal. She's not crippled, it's just that she doesn't have her powers anymore so she couldn't suppress orochi's influence. Although the seal barrier was broken. Orochi did not come out as it takes time for a full revival. But the seal breakage has exposed the orochi power to the villains Ash & Co. This has also lead to the resurrection of Mature & Vice as their serpent souls came out to re-aid Iori Yagami. All pre-story available on official web but in Japanese.

As for why iori is still able to fight without his flames. I think he's too popular to not show up in KOF. Too Risky for the developers regarding sales. laugh.gif So they made up a reason on how he can still use his claw/murder technique. Fans are still hoping for iori to regain his powers in XIII Ending. Respectively, Kyo Kusanagi also lost a large portion of his powers back in 99-2000 after the fight with orochi and being experimented by N.E.S.T.S cartel. In 2001 he regained his powers through the use of forbidden technique the "524 Mu-Shiki Kamijiri" (God's Dust). But in XI+ he's back to normal with Benimaru & Goro supporting him.

Favourite Boss? hmm.. i dunno, maybe Krizalid coz he's cool and one of the KOF bosses that give most of the "intimidation" feeling other of Rugal & Goenitz . If only he doesn't spam "Typhoon Rage" so much.

It's not announced yet, but for sure KOF XIII will come to the consoles some time later. Those damaging combos are the result of HyperDrive Mode (Skill Cancelling), 1 Level Super & NeoMAX (3 Level Supers) fitting for a reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j076z-NHYW8
Side Topic: Fans love the old Iori Yagami =D

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post Jul 6 2010, 09:30 PM

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As for why iori is still able to fight without his flames. I think he's too popular to not show up in KOF. Too Risky for the developers regarding sales.  So they made up a reason on how he can still use his claw/murder technique. Fans are still hoping for iori to regain his powers in XIII Ending. Respectively, Kyo Kusanagi also lost a large portion of his powers back in 99-2000 after the fight with orochi and being experimented by N.E.S.T.S cartel. In 2001 he regained his powers through the use of forbidden technique the "524 Mu-Shiki Kamijiri" (God's Dust). But in XI+ he's back to normal with Benimaru & Goro supporting him.


What? Kyo lost his portion of the power? In what way? because the N.E.S.T Kyo can use all his attack and his SDM in those game...No sign of him being weak at all to me.

And if XI Kyo is at the strongest form, then it must be really shame for him to got OHKO by Blood Riot Yagami...Haha tongue.gif

As for KoF XIII, I hope that we going to fight more than 2 boss characters. Preferable like KoF 97 where you fight Orochi Team, Blood Iori/Leona then only Orochi. ( 5 bosses)

and I hope that we going to have an anime ending for each team members. Hope that KoF XIII won't be flop this time.
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post Jul 6 2010, 09:42 PM

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http://www.89890.com/comic/8677/4/?5

The comics explained it that way so i'll just believe it. I didn't say XI Kyo was his strongest form, it's just that he's back to being a cheery/bright hero like he used to be. Unlike in 99-2001 he was consumed with vengeance.

New Tech Vids of Yagami Team & Kyokugen flex.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCabeLhO2_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6pULuOck8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C299OL3EB8k

If you're looking for KOF with multiple boss, you should really try KOF 2002 Unlimited Match for the PS2. It's not the original 2002 but a Remake. Fight Bosses from 99 to 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrtmVbCKywc

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post Jul 7 2010, 08:30 PM

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The comics explained it that way so i'll just believe it. I didn't say XI Kyo was his strongest form, it's just that he's back to being a cheery/bright hero like he used to be. Unlike in 99-2001 he was consumed with vengeance.


Is that comic even canon at the first place?

and Iori's team is wick. Every of them are crazy psychopath and they slash a lot with their claw.

It seems in this game, Ex is everything. Ex made SDM look stupid. I hope that the power bar can be stock in quick fashion since the game involved with a lot of meter bar.

As for KoF 2002 UM, it is Japanese version right?

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post Jul 8 2010, 01:13 AM

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http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/b/kof99sp.htm
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/b/kof2ksp.htm

i know KOF comics tends to exaggerate more than it's original in-game story. But it's still an official licensed material so i'd say it's partly true. Even in the original game ending in 99 kyo did have a vengefull dialog with nests cartel. 2000 also featured the same thing with Kyo & Iori mocking Clone Zero after winning. It's just that 2001 didn't have a proper ending due to playmore's hasty takeover. Hence why they did a remake for 2002UM which includes bosses from 99 to 2002. 02UM managed to beat Star Ocean 4 early sales. They even made 02UM Tougeki Edition (Super Battle Opera) due to high demand.

Capcom's SF license is currently owned by it's US Dept. So most of SF merchandise is in the form of american goods. Only some materials like Artbook and The Game itself were made from Japan. Unlike SNK they have long sticked with HK Comic Artists since 96. Since Playmore takeover, now KOF is being largely distributed in Korea but still not as popular as Tekken though.

Yeah 2002UM is Japanese but screw that it's dream match anyway. I mean even tho it doesn't have story 02UM did justice for what 2001 lacked hard. Menu's are in English so it's not a problem. smile.gif

NeoMAX requires 3 level so that people won't spam since it has 50-60% damage (without cancel combo). 3 level supers aren't a big issue since it was already done back in 2000. U only need 4-5 levels if u want to cancel-combo with other skills before connecting with SDM or NEO or BOTH. NeoMAX is doable with only 3 Levels, but it's not cancellable that way.

Maybe you're worried if NEO's need 3 level then you won't have sufficient time to charge power in a fight. I understand that, in actual KOF XIII fight vids.. u can see the power meter fills up moderately. Life damage in XIII is slightly lower/more balanced so you won't die so fast. sweat.gif But i think people will do EX, DM & SDM more than NeoMAX itself in this game. Maybe SNKP wanted the NeoMAX to be a Last Resort for players. The fastest 3 level i've seen is on the end of 1st round, so players will most likely save it for the 2nd round or later. Unlike SF4 some players will spam Ultra's when they fill up very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ReXXXSoprano#p/u/7/h3jsaU8WuXQ

The announcer voice in this video is so classy! thumbup.gif

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ya agreed, Krizalid is the most aggressive boss overall, nonstop jump to you and attack. But my fav sitll Igniz, handsome (^^)
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post Jul 8 2010, 07:58 AM

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Well, I like Magaki.

His theme is damn classy and epic. Not only that, he has special win quote for every characters he defeated.

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The announcer voice in this video is so classy!


You're about this one. Among other announcer in other KoF series, this one is quite good.

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Yeah 2002UM is Japanese but screw that it's dream match anyway. I mean even tho it doesn't have story 02UM did justice for what 2001 lacked hard. Menu's are in English so it's not a problem


Then I guess it is kinda pointless to pick team members since there is no ending for each team...Team edit all the way?

And I quite disappointed with KoF 98 UM since the Hardest AI is pretty much sucks...I mean, I beat the whole stages only with one character. ONE CHARACTER..What the hell..After all, I have high expectation on the Lv7 AI..Haha

Will there an improvement for 2002 UM AI? I planning to get this in this weekend.
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post Jul 8 2010, 03:18 PM

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If you're THAT level already then i see no point for you to get 02UM. It's been some time i haven't played it since i sold away my PS2 in return for my PS3 now. I think the A.I is only slightly better so no point getting it if you want challenge. tongue.gif But you may want to test Nameless, a remake of K9999 character and those selectable bosses.

Finally, the long awaited Team K' NeoMAX vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZFk9pUCK8

K' Dash NeoMAX looks almost the same as Nameless from 02UM. Only there is no girl image and his fire igniting stance is downwards. Still cool though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDy5Xrk5W8o

Hell Drag + Proton Cannon, 95% Damage! grumble.gif Somebody is Bound to be Pissed Off~ laugh.gif It'd be nice to see someone having the will to survive after being hit with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmD0cQPIucw

Damage at the last part seems meh

Team Kim Tech Vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1GSnHwA-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUwnGP_HGQ

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post Jul 8 2010, 11:00 PM

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Well, although I somewhat complain about the AI, in my deepest heart, I actually enjoy trashing them over and over again..Haha.. I going to get 2002 UM in this weekend. 98 UM don't has anything to offer for me any longer.

Even still, I still prefer XI as I loved everything about it.

Really hope there would be a lot of anime cutscene in Kof XIII.

And do you played SFVI?
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post Jul 9 2010, 10:29 AM

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Yeah i did play SFIV and Super SFIV but had sold it to fund for newer PS3 games. sleep.gif

KOF XIII - Aim for Tougeki Episode 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ptsyT-_vl8

They really need to add delay time for Athena's Psycho Ball... it's so unfair!

I'm not sure wether they will add anime cutscenes for XIII ending. As far as i know, their ending graphics will most likely be similar to the one u see on XIII intro. It's anime style but not a video like SFIV. Well, i'm not surpised since SNKP isn't a big company like Capcom, hiring anime studios does have cost.

K Tech Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jHgHypau0

Maxima & Kula Tech Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sBJCsCsBIY

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post Jul 9 2010, 12:26 PM

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What does tougeki means?

as what is your opinion about SFVI series? Do you enjoy it?
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post Jul 9 2010, 12:29 PM

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Not sur eif this is accurate.

Tougeki - Super Battle Opera (闘劇, Tōgeki?, lit. fighting play), also known as the Arcadia Cup Tournament
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:21 PM

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I'll reply to that later in PM, better not disturb other game fans.. rolleyes.gif Tougeki means Super Battle Opera, it's a fighting game championship in Japan. Only games that are considered worthy will be featured in the event. Aiming KOF XIII for Tougeki means SNKP is serious to revive the franchise.

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post Jul 10 2010, 12:48 AM

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LOL at that video.

Nobody love Ground Orochinagi. Everyone love Air Orochinagi...and Athena's psycho ball is crazy. The player who use Athena is very good...same goes to Kyo.

While Terry and Ryo don't stand a chance at all.

Seriously, I think SNkP kinda overdid with Kyo. I never know that Classic Kyo actually that good...

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post Jul 12 2010, 12:52 PM

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I think Yuzuko (Terry/Ryo/Kyo) would have won if Athena wasn't overpowered. Kyo is strong in XIII, but Duo Lon is far crazier.

Here's 4 page worth of new screenies:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/278/278975/index-4.html

Among the things i've noticed is they have extended KOF XIII Intro. KOF XIII will also support Continue Service. It is also one of the first fighting game that supports training & challenge mode in arcade.

Higher-Res screens also available: http://japan.gamespot.com/arcade/screensho...635p-297,00.htm

Update: KOF XIII Official Wallpaper
http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/download/index.php

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