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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.1, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Jul 27 2010, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cliff_Tan73 @ Jul 27 2010, 08:12 PM)
Me 2 can't find such function in my V20 either.  Any Sifu can guide ??
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post Jul 28 2010, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 28 2010, 09:29 AM)
Its motion interpolation (in my opinion done wrongly) and its supposed to improve motion handling. I am unsure if it is available on the U series, I doubt it, check yr set and see if its there.

24p is to handle 24p material. Again, its motion interpolation instead of a direct pulldown (3:3 or 4:4). I am quite sure that the U does not have this and refreshes at 60Hz with 3:2 pulldown.
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From my best knowledge most new Blu-ray player (incl. PS3) will send 1080/24p signal to our V20 for movie playback.

Astro Byond send 1080i/50hz and PS3 sending [720p/1080p]/60Hz signal.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, Sifus
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post Jul 28 2010, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(allycat @ Jul 28 2010, 11:52 AM)
I emailed Panasonic and their engineer is coming to check my V20 this Sat.

I think that those of you who are having motion blur, judder, artefact problems should email Panasonic. In this way, we can get better response and solution from them.

If most of just keep quiet and just complain in the forum, I doubt Panasoic will take us seriously.
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post Jul 28 2010, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(yim1981 @ Jul 28 2010, 03:14 PM)
I am new of V20 user, what to do at start?
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Hook up with Astro Byond, PS3/XBox, HD Media Player, Notebook, etc

then will start face the so-called problems that we'd discussed here in this forum - which is the fun part but the sad part will be we're all paying the $$ for the problem....
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post Jul 29 2010, 12:57 PM

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Sifus, I set ONLY S Curve for the Gamma setting & the rest Default - OK for 50" V20K in both 1080i/50Hz & Astro Byond and PS3 1080p 24p/60Hz - which I set it in Professional 1 Viewing Mode ? icon_question.gif

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post Jul 31 2010, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 31 2010, 11:08 AM)
S curve will most likely crush blacks and  wash out whites.
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So Sifu, what should I do ? blink.gif
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QUOTE(abei2 @ Aug 2 2010, 01:47 AM)
Hi
Received my 50V20K last week finally. Got a question. Anyone encounter any problems getting subtitles to play from portable HD connected to the tv's USB port? Movie played fine except I couldnt make the subs appear. All my subs are either .srt or .txt which according to the manual should work ok. Any advice?

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My unit can't even play a single AVCHD video file (eg m2ts files) via USB or SD, any Sifu can help ?? cry.gif
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post Aug 2 2010, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(allycat @ Aug 2 2010, 10:23 AM)
Just an update on the defects I've seen on my V20. The engineer came and saw what I meant. He needs to report to his professional member for further resolution, and will contact me again.

I'll post further updates after their professional feedback.

But seriously, doesn't anybody else seeing what I've been seeing on  y V20 ie. motion blurring, judderring etc?
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post Aug 2 2010, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(allycat @ Aug 2 2010, 12:20 PM)
Hi Blade63,
I notice some but not so much in DVD. Compating DVD and BD sources, the defect is more noticeble for BDs.

Allycat.
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BD source via PS3 or other BD Player ?
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QUOTE(allycat @ Aug 2 2010, 04:29 PM)
Yes, it's original, bought from Amazon UK.

As for other BD player, have to look around but I don't think it's the problem. I don't see these defects when I use my Pioner with my old LG plasma.
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Something to do with the PAL/NTSC signals ? I've one PAL original BD which I will try on this week, the rest mostly NTSC based BD. Amazon UK only selling PAL-based BD if not mistaken wink.gif


Added on August 2, 2010, 4:48 pmSifus, what is the folder structure for those AVCHD file to be playback via SD and USB ?? Kindly help. Thanks ! icon_question.gif icon_question.gif


Added on August 2, 2010, 4:54 pmSee the site, it's stated as Infinite Black Pro for V20 Series - very misleading right ?? hmm.gif

http://www.panasonic.com.my/viera/

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QUOTE(allycat @ Aug 3 2010, 10:17 AM)
Tks, anfieldude. Hopefully I have better luck with Panasonic Malaysia.

I also hope more M'sian V20 users, who are having these problems, will report to Panasonic Malaysia so that we can get better response from them. Please don't settle for a product that is not living up to its claimed performance or having noticeable defects.

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Hi Allycat,

The only problem (I suspected) most of the 50" V20K owner still having new unit and may not able to produce the same problem as you mentioned (but touched wood).

NTSC and PAL also having different in input frequency (via HDMI) from the source (eg. BD, DVD etc) to the V20K, this also incl. of the source from Astro Byond (1080i/50Hz)

May be Panasonic will need to further investigate on this besides other possibility.

Good Luck !
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QUOTE(osrisis @ Aug 3 2010, 02:08 PM)
Is this the same way to check for P50V20K?
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QUOTE(allycat @ Aug 4 2010, 09:51 AM)
Hi Blade63,
Tks for the article. I did read it before when i encountered my problems with the V20.

Yes, my BD player supports all the full HD features incl 24p.

Going to get a second set of eyes to evaluate the V20 picture quality. Just in case my eyes are playing tricks on me  rclxub.gif

Allycat
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I used to have a 37" Panasonic LCD (FullHD+100Mhz) since 2 years ago and initially not really get used to 50" V20K in terms of my eye....even though now I shifted to a bigger house wink.gif
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QUOTE(eLife @ Aug 5 2010, 05:33 PM)
Panasonic engineer just came to pick-up our 2-month old V20K. only 20+ hours of usage cry.gif

he claimed that ours is the first V20K to have a vertical line (top to bottom) appearing. is this line due to dead pixel?

we also complain about 24p judder and buzzing sound from our unit to him.

hope we can get it back early next week.
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Aug 7 2010, 02:30 PM)
Why until today nobody getting Panasonic largest Plasma?  tongue.gif

If money is just a figure for you or you don't mind to pay extra, try to get Panasonic Plasma 150".  brows.gif

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Compared to 103", now you know the different.

1 plus point for this 150" Plasma, the resolution is 4k x 2k.  You are right, it is 4 times the 1080i/p.  laugh.gif
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Any Sifus can share with me on how to playback the AVCHD via SD or USB in V20K ?? THANK YOU ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Aug 7 2010, 05:53 PM)
What I can gather from AV forums is that the 600Hz has nothing to do with motion interpolation. It doesn't help at all to improve motion blur etc.

For details, just google "plasma 600Hz".

From the Panasonic site, it will be on if you use the Cinema mode.


Added on August 7, 2010, 6:03 pm
I have no problems playing my Canon's video camera SD card with V20K's SD slot directly.

Folder structure:

SD CARD
          |
          PRIVATE
                      |
                      AVCHD
                              |
                              STREAM
                                        |
                                          - All the MTS files
         
Not sure if that will help you.
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Aug 7 2010, 08:41 PM)
What type of SD card do you have?

I've tried 32GB SDHC Class 4 (Sandisk Ultra 2), 8GB SDHC Class 4 (Toshiba), 2GB SD Class 2 (Kingston). All can be recognised correctly.

Also, what happens when you insert the SD card into the V20K? Mine actually displays the thumbnails of the videos or photos, depending on the contents.
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Normal - 1 GB MicroSD with SD Adapter. Do you think this matter ?? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Aug 7 2010, 09:30 PM)
Not sure. Do you have another SD card you can try? Maybe one without using adapter?
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Tested with MicroSD HC 8GB with SD Adapter. No luck for AVCHD viewing and playback but I can see the JPG photo cry.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Aug 8 2010, 04:26 PM)
Hmm. JPG photos are working. That means the problem is with AVCHD files.

What is the source of your AVCHD files? Please run "Media Info" on your files and share them here ...

Check Media info:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download/Windows

Compare this against with a working MTS file on V20K:

General
ID                               : 0
Complete name                    : D:\My Home Videos\20100404\20100404\20100404141015.mts
Format                           : BDAV
Format/Info                      : Blu-ray Video
File size                        : 35.1 MiB
Duration                         : 38s 789ms
Overall bit rate                 : 7 599 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate         : 13.7 Mbps

Video
ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
Duration                         : 38s 720ms
Bit rate                         : 7 033 Kbps
Width                            : 1 440 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.181
Stream size                      : 32.5 MiB (92%)

Audio
ID                               : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Duration                         : 38s 848ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -80ms
Stream size                      : 1.19 MiB (3%)
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I can playback those MTS file via my PS3 (incl. Media Player in Windows) though. I guess I need to call Panasonic Customer Service tomorrow doh.gif

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