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post Nov 11 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 11 2010, 05:24 PM)
Use spreadsheet lar... tongue.gif  If I don't manage my investment via spreadsheet, I don't even know what I am holding.  rclxub.gif
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This I have no problem of knowing, what and how many I am holding. Because always round figure one and not big portfolio to start with.

Just the price transacted forgot.
Don't need to remember them clearly, as long as they are giving dividend constantly. tongue.gif

Spreadsheet only use once a year for fun. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 19 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(harry1125 @ Nov 15 2010, 04:02 PM)
Anyone know when stareit will announce their new injection properties??
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They need to announce the Q result by this month end, so probably announce together with the Q report.

It is quite a long wait already.

I waiting a poor result to sink the price down so that can buy more. tongue.gif
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post Nov 19 2010, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 19 2010, 09:39 PM)
Mind to share why are you so interested in starreit?
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Nothing special, just another stock in eye only.

It is one of most undervalued reit based on NTA wise.

With 500 - 600+ mil + 5.65% yield in Starhill global convertible preference unit, this reit is virtually has no debt.
So besides with cash available for new properties injection, it has lot of room of gearing if it wants to.

Even though lot 10 and stahill is disposed, there is little indirect exposure in Starhill Global through the CPU.



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post Nov 29 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Nov 29 2010, 12:09 PM)
we have new reit today.. amanah hartanah bumiputra just lunch limit only 200k per bumi person.. hope can bit the all reit performance in stock exchange.
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It is a reit or UT?

If it is same structure with ASM/ASB/AS1M (most likely), then it is unit trust, not reit.

Just they use the money invest into properties related asset like reit.
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Nov 29 2010, 03:19 PM)
that why.. im also so want to know more deaper...  to many question from me that the maybank staff to explain to me....  smile.gif
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From Maybank2U
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What is Amanah Hartanah Bumiputera?
•A Shariah Compliant Unit Trust
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post Nov 29 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2010, 03:59 PM)
Wonder if Real Estate Unit Trust (REUT) in Malaysia enjoy tax free status if they distribute >90% of income?  laugh.gif Hope it is not a Unit Trust which buys other REITs  doh.gif
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Where got? laugh.gif

It is more like unit trust buying reit.
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post Nov 30 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 30 2010, 12:22 PM)
BUY SUNREIT !! biggrin.gif
1 year giving 4 times dividend...
This month give 1.5%... I think nx dividend will be higher !!
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Ya may be higher.. like 1.53% laugh.gif

4 x 1.53 = 6.12%

Fyi, most reit out there are having 6-8% across.

Don't mean Sunreit is good or not good.
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post Dec 7 2010, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 7 2010, 09:10 PM)
How u find the NAV of the REIT?
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It is published on every quarterly report.

QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 7 2010, 09:27 PM)
i think old dog Francis has something up his sleeves. Now that they only have 2 hotels in their portfolio it seems a bit sad.. and i'm sure they won't leave it at that. hmm.gif
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For sure, there will be properties injection, they cannot sit with 500-600 million cash.

But I don't mind they wish to keep it as cash, and distributed as capital repayment or dividend. whistling.gif Joking only.
But this is not going to happen, as it has stated clearly on the rationalisation proposal, new hospitality properties will be injected.
One rumour is Pangkor Laut.
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post Dec 12 2010, 11:09 PM

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Stareit next DPU will be lower than normal, that's for sure.

I am expecting around 2.5 cents only.
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post Dec 12 2010, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(spid3rx @ Dec 12 2010, 11:32 PM)
I am expecting the DPU to be slightly lower too.
I believe after dissolving the lot 10 and starhill gallery, there will be a planning for a new properties
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For sure, new properties injection is in the pipeline, this has been stated clearly under the rationalisation proposal.
They can't sit with 500 million cash doing nothing.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 12 2010, 11:33 PM
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post Dec 14 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(amy_tan @ Dec 14 2010, 01:27 PM)
Anyone can advise on the reason why UOAreit dropped by 7sens in noon today? Is it a payout or random turn of events?
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UOA reit has low liquidity, if someone hold big lots want to dispose in short time, it could cause a temporarily sold down price.
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QUOTE(kbandito @ Dec 15 2010, 11:20 AM)
I do not understand why the combined yield from the 110 units Residences @ Ritz-Carlton is so low at 5.50%.
JW Marriot is also low at 6.43%, while all the other assets yield range from 7.0% - 8.66%.
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I am not familiar with hospitality properties, may be rental yield is not high to start with in the sector.
While for current valuation of properties across aka properties price is surging across, rental yield is not at the same pace with property valuation.
Yield is affected when property valuation become higher time.
The purchase valuation is based on valuation on Sep 2010.

Also I noticed that the occupancy is not high for some, so yield may be affected as well.

Office and industrial yield is more higher.

To be fair, those are long term lease, 15 years + 15 years, so stareit get rid of tenant/lessee issue for long term.

But still a bit disappointed about the injection, as projected DPU for first 5 years is 6.49 cents only, as compared that able to achieve 6.8 cents with Lot 10 and Starhill time. No improvement in DPU and a minor step backwards.

But to be fair, it has little gearing to start with.
If they want to have higher DPU, they have a lot of room for leverage.

Still a bit disappoitment with slow injection, resulted current half year has significant lower DPU as well as newer DPU is going to be lower than previous.

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post Dec 15 2010, 01:12 PM

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Oppss, sorry, mis-look, should be 6.89 cents with full year contribution.

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post Dec 16 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(vergil90 @ Dec 16 2010, 01:53 PM)
trade off with long term stability, 15 yrs agreement which u don't scare tenant run away. for me it's the most stable reit - low risk - low return - long term holding hope for share appreciation. i believe it will rise to RM 1 in 3 to 5 yrs time ( if u don't mind holding)
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True also, most lease especially for office space won't be more than 2-3 years.
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QUOTE(groggy @ Dec 16 2010, 03:28 PM)
The risk of lessees going under, is it high? Long term lease is useless if they go bankrupt.
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Yes.
But short term lessee also can go bankrupt, or short term lessee can default the payment also. tongue.gif


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post Dec 16 2010, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Dec 16 2010, 04:45 PM)
The report says even the 6.89 cents is not assured. Could be lower. If so, yield might go under 7%, still worth to invest?
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There is no universal standard for worth. icon_rolleyes.gif
It depends on individual.

Compared to FD 3.0%, someone can say 7% is worth, doubling.
Compared to some ordinary stocks out there that can gain 10-15%, then someone can say it is not worth.
If market bull run, others stock achieved 20-30%, then someone can say it is not worth.
If market crash, other stocks plunging resulted losses across, while Stareit is holding up due to 7% yield, then people may say, magnificent.

For sure, it is a projection, no one dare to guarantee anything.
Yes, if could be lower due to various reason.
Yield is about price you paid/bought, so if the DPU is lower than 6.89 cents, while there is other alternatives offer 8% yield, then price of the reit may go lower for adjustment comparatively.

That's why Stareit is not traded at Rm1.00 or near its NAV. Market is self-adjustment on itself.

But to be fair, Stareit achieved this yield without/little borrowing or gearing. While most reit is under some gearing range from 25-40%.
If they want to achieve 8% yield, geared up a bit, then it is achievable. My view only.

Don't get me wrong, I don't recommend whether Stareit is good or not, worth or not worth. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 16 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Dec 16 2010, 08:45 PM)
At rm0.88, will you buy some for yourself?  tongue.gif  Eventhough gearing is low, it might remain low as YTL is conservative.


Added on December 16, 2010, 9:07 pmOne thing I am confused is that in the report, it is stated that

"Actual distributable income after tax for FY2011 is expected to be significantly different from
the above in view that the Proposed Acquisitions are expected to complete towards the end of
FY2011."

How can it be "significantly different" when all the lease payments/rental revenues are known beforehand? hmm.gif
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Gearing has pro and con, cannot say low gearing is totally not good as well, to be fair.

If interest rate remain low across and stay low for years to come and Stareit situation remain stable, why not? 7% is miles better 3%.
For me, getting a little as diversification and serve as fixed income instrument, 7% seems ok for this category.
After all, Sunreit and CMMT have even lower yield.

The projection of 6.89 cents is based on full year contribution.

The actual DPU of FY2011 is not going to be 6.89cents, as now already Dec, while FY 2011 will be ending June 2011.
So the real effect of contribution of the properties injection will be after the proposal of injection being approved, which by then could be after Feb/March, so contribution of new properties may only contribute income for several months time only for FY2011.

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post Dec 16 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Dec 16 2010, 11:26 PM)
I wonder why they don't do a full year projection assuming all properties are up and running. That would be more useful to see what's the actual yield is like after acquistion.
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already stated in the proposal clearly, 6.89 cents EPS/DPU based on projection for full year contribution of all proposed newer injecton.
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post Dec 16 2010, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Dec 16 2010, 11:35 PM)
oh ok, now I get it, it means for coming year, still have partial here and there, but FY 2012 onwards should be 6.89 cts barring further acquistions, am I right? Thx
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Yup, if everything is within the projection expectation.
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post Dec 21 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 21 2010, 08:46 PM)
Anyone here receive their E-dividend from arreit yet? Today is the payment date however i went to check my bank account just now. Was not bank in yet.
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Arreit under e-dividend already?

Just last month, still receive Amfirst and Atrium dividend through cheque.
So not all across in e-dividend.

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