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 Beware of Counterfeits Monster Cables, High risk - M2000HD/M1000HD HDMI Cable

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post Mar 19 2010, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 19 2010, 03:03 PM)
Nonid susah. Just buy from proper n reputable retail outlets. Nonid to stress n worry about fakes.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 19 2010, 08:06 PM)
even people at monster itself cant differentiate between fake and ori. their advice is to buy from authorized seller.
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if people at monster itself can't differentiate between fake and ori, what more can the consumer do? last time, i'd listened to a talk show on a radio about giving fake diamond to your girlfriend...and there are some really good fake diamonds which even the expert cannot differentiate it against the real one.

QUOTE(Dickong @ Mar 19 2010, 08:32 PM)
Exactly what i am going to say until today its so hard to differentiate which is which, what if authorized seller sell u fake cable nobody knows except u come back happy with the cable without knowing whether original or fake n hapy becos u pay for big amount. Anyway my advise is to avoid Monster cable brand for the time being. I myself own 2 Monster HDMI cable, quiet happy but till today doubtful whether its original or fake. Happy with it for the time being becos hope its not fake becos of the high price i pay for n bought from authorized seller in town.
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agree with dickong. since everyone believes in the authorized seller, and one day the authorized seller also sell the fake one, you wouldn't know. if you've already bought the fake monster cable, and it works for 1080p with DTS-HDMA and DD TrueHD 7.1 perfectly, even at long runs, what more do you wanna complain if the cable already serve its purpose.
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post Mar 19 2010, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Mar 19 2010, 08:32 PM)
Exactly what i am going to say until today its so hard to differentiate which is which, what if authorized seller sell u fake cable nobody knows except u come back happy with the cable without knowing whether original or fake n hapy becos u pay for big amount. Anyway my advise is to avoid Monster cable brand for the time being. I myself own 2 Monster HDMI cable, quiet happy but till today doubtful whether its original or fake. Happy with it for the time being becos hope its not fake becos of the high price i pay for n bought from authorized seller in town.
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yes bro i really2 agree wit u...bcoz i yesterday i juz ask malaysia autorized seller about audioquest cable from china seller...
the answer is not really good .... hmm.gif
and he also never said that china seller sold fake cable... :blink

happy wit my HDMI from china... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 19 2010, 08:56 PM)
yes bro i really2 agree wit u...bcoz i yesterday i juz ask malaysia autorized seller about audioquest cable from china seller...
the answer is not really good .... hmm.gif
and he also never said that china seller sold fake cable... :blink

happy wit my HDMI from china... biggrin.gif
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I've seen something called "Designed in USA" . "Assembled in China". On the Monster1000HD box case. DigitalTech , probably you can clarify the matter.

Is this because China labour cost less than labour cost in USA or US does not have an assembling process team..
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post Mar 20 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 19 2010, 09:54 PM)
I've seen something called  "Designed in USA" . "Assembled in China". On the Monster1000HD box case. DigitalTech , probably you can clarify the matter.

Is this because China labour cost less than labour cost in USA or US does not have an assembling process team..
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Everybody knows China labour is cheap. Most big brands like Nike, adidas, iphone, ipod and even Monster cables are made in China.
That does not mean it's fake. It's licensed under Monster but manufacturer in China.

All I say it's to avoid the high risk models altogether to be safe, that is the M2000HD & M1000HD HDMI cables by Monster.

Another thing to take note, is not to buy cables without original retail packaging.

If suddenly so many sellers in ebay, lelong, LYN selling M2000HD/M1000HD cables, this is an indication that there's mass supply from somewhere with amazing price. Ask yourself this, where do all of them got the stock from? Very likely it's counterfeits.


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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Mar 20 2010, 12:20 AM)
Everybody knows China labour is cheap. Most big brands like Nike, adidas, iphone, ipod and even Monster cables are made in China.
That does not mean it's fake. It's licensed under Monster but manufacturer in China.

All I say it's to avoid the high risk models altogether to be safe, that is the M2000HD & M1000HD HDMI cables by Monster.

Another thing to take note, is not to buy cables without original retail packaging.

If suddenly so many sellers in ebay, lelong, LYN selling M2000HD/M1000HD cables, this is an indication that there's mass supply from somewhere with amazing price. Ask yourself this, where do all of them got the stock from? Very likely it's counterfeits.
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To simplify, you're advising not to get the MonsterM2000HD cable, cause i had long time plan to get one..but some claims the cable doesn't even exist or its fake, as you have stated.. rclxub.gif
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m also very scared of kena cheated but I am very confused... so if we cannot say cheap stocks are fake, and fake stocks are cheap... then when I see a cheap stock, how should I evaluate??.... again, look at "high risk model"... what is high risk model? those models identified by "ori seller"?... also, does it mean that when people are making fake product, they purposely choose product that will be identified by ori seller??... also, if I m making fake product for a brand, even though it is more beneficial to make the same model (economy of scale), I think the cost of producing model A is not that significantly different from producing model B right... especially cables... nowadays in pasar malam we can see all sorts of different model of the same sports brand leh, so how to identify which model is high risk and which not... also, it does not mean that big brand retail outlet would not sell fake goods, so how should I determine which ori seller is not selling fake goods leh... oh..whatever it may be, since I really cannot see a difference in picture quality between those of monoprice and monster... may be no need to crack my brain and just buy from monoprice... smile.gif
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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Mar 20 2010, 12:47 AM)
m also very scared of kena cheated but I am very confused... so if we cannot say cheap stocks are fake, and fake stocks areĀ  cheap... then when I see a cheap stock, how should I evaluate??.... again, look at "high risk model"... what is high risk model? those models identified by "ori seller"?... also, does it mean that when people are making fake product, they purposely choose product that will be identified by ori seller??... also, if I m making fake product for a brand, even though it is more beneficial to make the same model (economy of scale), I think the cost of producing model A is not that significantly different from producing model B right... especially cables... nowadays in pasar malam we can see all sorts of different model of the same sports brand leh, so how to identify which model is high risk and which not... also, it does not mean that big brand retail outlet would not sell fake goods, so how should I determine which ori seller is not selling fake goods leh... oh..whatever it may be, since I really cannot see a difference in picture quality between those of monoprice and monster... may be no need to crack my brain and just buy from monoprice... smile.gif
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If you buy from an authorised reseller or reputable online trader (based on customer feedbacks), very high chances is you will get the real thing.

Why would one seller jeopardise their reputation and credibility for 1 or 2 fake cables?

I'm in this business for a while and I monitor closely on the happenings in the market.

Counterfeits cable cannot copy exactly the same specs and quality as the original.

They can only copy closely comestically in appearence. But inside the wire are sub standard and even may rust overtime, who knows?

With such a low cost and mass produce, you can expect very low quality cables from it.

This also applies to al-cheapo (brandless) cables.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Mar 20 2010, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Mar 20 2010, 11:00 AM)
If you buy from an authorised reseller or reputable online trader (based on customer feedbacks), very high chances is you will get the real thing.

Why would one seller jeopardise their reputation and credibility for 1 or 2 fake cables?

I'm in this business for a while and I monitor closely on the happenings in the market.

Counterfeits cable cannot copy exactly the same specs and quality as the original.

They can only copy closely comestically in appearence. But inside the wire are sub standard and even may rust overtime, who knows?

With such a low cost and mass produce, you can expect very low quality cables from it.

This also applies to al-cheapo (brandless) cables.
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i think we no need to worried bcoz fake cable normally you can see wit your naked eye maybe printed at
that cable easy to peel off or maybe cable finishing not so fine...
for me if they want to copy that cable wit very fine finishing maybe need to use hitech equipment and material
and it will cost very high budget ...
unless somebody from that factory sell from back door.... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 20 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Mar 20 2010, 12:00 PM)
If you buy from an authorised reseller or reputable online trader (based on customer feedbacks), very high chances is you will get the real thing.

Why would one seller jeopardise their reputation and credibility for 1 or 2 fake cables?

I'm in this business for a while and I monitor closely on the happenings in the market.

Counterfeits cable cannot copy exactly the same specs and quality as the original.

They can only copy closely comestically in appearence. But inside the wire are sub standard and even may rust overtime, who knows?

With such a low cost and mass produce, you can expect very low quality cables from it.

This also applies to al-cheapo (brandless) cables.
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If I am not wrong, in the Monster Cable website, the statement is to get cable from their Authorised Dealer; for example Amazon or local authorised reseller...

There are a list of so-called Black List seller, but notice "DigitalTech" not on it. Maybe "DigitalTech" can get Monster Cable to give it an Authorised Dealer status, think this will wipe the doubt off everybody mind....

Meantime maybe its better not to say the other cable seller are selling fake, or else I will get "blacklisted" from Monster and hated by the local seller that sell this model...

Finally; maybe some seller are willing to sell at cheaper price for promotion and marketing purposes... so also not fair to say their are selling fake.. but also maybe its fake but how to check? Maybe some experience seller can devise a way... in fact I have one M1000HD purchased in 2008.. now scared if its a fake.. but how to test?
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post Mar 20 2010, 10:42 PM

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So meaning, those Monster products sold at SQ, Harvey Norman , for a whopping RM1k ++ price are considered genuine?.

What about those sold in the trade forums for extreme low price?

Now, i'm curious whether my cable bought from Harvey Norman are fake or genuine.

I'm in the same shoe with you scsoo..wonder how to verify the cable quality..

DigitalTech? shed some light..
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post Mar 21 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(scsoo @ Mar 20 2010, 09:53 PM)
If I am not wrong, in the Monster Cable website, the statement is to get cable from their Authorised Dealer; for example Amazon or local authorised reseller...

There are a list of so-called Black List seller, but notice "DigitalTech" not on it. Maybe "DigitalTech" can get Monster Cable to give it an Authorised Dealer status, think this will wipe the doubt off everybody mind....

Meantime maybe its better not to say the other cable seller are selling fake, or else I will get "blacklisted" from Monster and hated by the local seller that sell this model...

Finally; maybe some seller are willing to sell at cheaper price for promotion and marketing purposes... so also not fair to say their are selling fake.. but also maybe its fake but how to check? Maybe some experience seller can devise a way... in fact I have one M1000HD purchased in 2008.. now scared if its a fake.. but how to test?
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I think you got my intentions wrongly. I am not accusing anybody selling fake Monster cables.

I derived the conclusion that low priced M2000HD/M1000HD HDMI cables maybe fake by communicating with the China counterfeit supplier which I posted in the 1st post and they admit that it's high grade copy cables. They even told me they are mass producing and in high demand including ebay seller in US.

I can easily order from this counterfeit supplier and sell it as genuine if I want to. But I chose to disclose this fact to all of you.

You judge yourself.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Mar 21 2010, 12:13 AM
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Closing this thread. Looks like a promotional thread saying "Hey I sell real stuff n others r selling fakes". Those of you who are worried about fakes, just buy from proper retail outlets.



QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 20 2010, 10:42 PM)
So meaning, those Monster products sold at SQ, Harvey Norman , for a whopping RM1k ++ price are considered genuine?.

What about those sold in the trade forums for extreme low price?

Now, i'm curious whether my cable bought from Harvey Norman are fake or genuine.

I'm in the same shoe with you scsoo..wonder how to verify the cable quality..

DigitalTech? shed some light..
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Harvey Norman not gonna risk their reputation by selling fake things la. Surely they will get stocks only from proper
channels.

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