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post Jun 7 2010, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
Will I survive with the salary of AUS $ 5000.00 per month in Aussie when considering the cost of living there is quiet high. Actually. I just don't know how high is it.
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With AUD5k/mth, you will survive if you live frugally but the salary is very low even when compared to locals, what more expats.

QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 7 2010, 01:21 PM)
you need to read things up, since i guess you are on 457 visa, where LAFHA allowance will still be taxable i think.. (i might be wrong)
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LAFHA is non-taxable, I'm receiving >AUD20k/mth of LAFHA.
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post Jun 7 2010, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Jun 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
AUD5k a month = AUD60k per year in oil and gas? U are pawned!!!!!

Freshie can get 65k in o&g..

allowance will be taxed as well. Btw if you are on 457 visa, ask ur company to recommend an accountant to adjust ur tax as you can get back some money for living allowance. Do it when you arrive in perth



Added on June 7, 2010, 3:47 pm

He will be living in australia so he will be considered as resident in terms of tax payment. Tax rate will be according to normal rates.
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Actually I still can be considered as a fresh graduate as I only have experience of not more than 1 year. Emm.. around 10 month working experience to date. As a matter of fact, I'm being offered the salary of 70000 USD/AUSD plus offshore allowance of 330 USD/AUSD perĀ  day. I still need to clarify with the company's HR regarding my salary currency, because it's not clearly stated in the offer of employment letter whether I will be paid in American or Australian dollar.



Thank goodness, it means that I will be taxed at a lower rate, am I right? Thanks for your info, really helps me a lot.

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post Jun 8 2010, 09:19 PM

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Very informatics for people who interest/consider of migrate,
Previously I was planning to move to NZ as we manage to score good points on the EOI but the work opportunities there is way too low and is hard for us.
Will sure follow this tread.

Thanks

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post Jun 8 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(witchx @ Mar 26 2010, 06:19 AM)
@fujihime - I think you only are looking at the bright side of things in regards to Australia lifestyle and the bad sides of Malaysian lifestyle. No doubt I have to agree with you in regards to the automotive pricing...
In regards to the working hours, it is not 100% true you leave at 5pm you can choose to do so, but at the end of the day you have to finish your job... it isn't fair that we get the same pay, we get the same workload, we both work 8 hours, myself finishing 100% of the workload and you only finish 60%... where's fairness and equality in that? if you have to stay back and finish to catch up you gota do it...

If you were gona stay in Australia long term and intend to buy a house, its way way way more expensive not to mention interests on loan. To help you understand better, visit www.domain.com.au or www.realestate.com.au and browse around the suburbs you may wanna live in and check on the pricing... Education level maybe good in Australia but I dare say that many graduates from local college / unis are more successful than those that has studied overseas or have education in Australia. A lot of kids brought up by the Aussie way of life are not better off than those that are brought up in Malaysia. Racism do exist in Malaysia but I feel its worse off in Australia especially during school times. Certain kids have little or no respect to their parents.. mostly due to upbringing and peers and the laws surrounding the minors and its very difficult to discipline your child ( no i do not have concrete evidence but based on my observation and only applies to certain and not all).

At the end of the day, its still up to you on how you can adapt to your lifestyle and where you chose to live in. My thought is that you look at pros and cons of both countries to be assessed before making a final decision. But getting a PR in australia and if you dont feel you like it in the first couple of years and decide to move back to malaysia thats still okay but once get citizenship it will be a bit difficult. I am in no way here trying to deter you from making your decision to move to australia

@ RBR - I've gota agree with your statement there.. There are many asian investors that has entered australia and kinda change how the working culture are around
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Exactly mate... i am agree with what you have point out here... the racist problem here are definitely way more serious than MY. anyway.. thats my own opinion.
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post Jun 9 2010, 01:03 AM

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I just got my WHV of New Zealand last week. Now I'm attempting to get a job at there. Starts from tomorrow.

But since I have one sister who currently lives in Sdyney and she has Permanent Resident already. So i am wondering, is it easier for me to get a job in Australia and become PR in Australia than working and living in New Zealand all by myself?

And heard that getting WHV in Australia seems not easy at all. And the cost of WHV for Australia cost a bomb. ( correct me if I'm wrong ). So right now should I apply the Australia WHV right now and give it a shot or should I just run to New Zealand there? Anyone can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated. notworthy.gif

Additional: Are the job recruitment agencies in New Zealand better than Malaysia/Singapore cause I have a bad experience being employed by recruitment agency before >><

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post Dec 20 2010, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
Guys,

Hi fellow Malaysians. Just want to check with you all.. Will I survive with the salary of AUS $ 5000.00 per month in Aussie when considering the cost of living there is quiet high. Actually. I just don't know how high is it. I hope someone will enlighten me about this thing. I'm still single which mean I will be going there alone, so is it enough for me to survive there utilizing the said figure above? and would I have some money to bring back to Malaysia?

As all of you know there is a tax for expatriate being implemented is Australia and it is higher compare to other countries, so how it is calculated? and how many percent of the salary one have to pay taxwise?

For your information, I will be working at Perth/Western Australia. Are there any additional and useful information I need to know before going there?

Thanks in advance.
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5k is more then enuff for a mth - depends on what you do as well

if you bring homecook meals, share a house and avoid visiting the casino you should be fine. YMMV though depending on lifestyle

This post has been edited by hotchoc: Dec 20 2010, 09:13 PM
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post Dec 21 2010, 09:08 AM

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Haha.
$5k per month is more than enough. If you spend wisely you should be able to save 30-40% of your salary per month. I've been living in Melbourne for 5 years or so, graduated in 2008 and been working for 2 years.

I buy most of my stuffs in Malaysia (clothes, watch, accessories etc, they are 3 times cheaper back home). The cheapest meal you can get here cost you around AUD$10.00. If you prepare your own meals, obviously it'll be 50% cheaper. Rental is about $150-200 per week. Public transport is about $100+ per month.

For me after living here for so long, I feel home sick all the time, home is still home. I'm working in the health industry, after meeting so many aussies/ ABCs from different background, I am not sure if this is a good place for me to raise a family (I'm getting married next year). Low moral value, low family value, quite sad etc. But if you are still young, I guess this is a good place to earn and to learn, you'll get more opportunities here, australia value talents, if you are good, you will do very well here. Not like Malaysia, too many redtapes, racism is everywhere.


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post Dec 21 2010, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(SilverfoX @ Dec 21 2010, 09:08 AM)
Haha.
$5k per month is more than enough. If you spend wisely you should be able to save 30-40% of your salary per month. I've been living in Melbourne for 5 years or so, graduated in 2008 and been working for 2 years.

I buy most of my stuffs in Malaysia (clothes, watch, accessories etc, they are 3 times cheaper back home). The cheapest meal you can get here cost you around AUD$10.00. If you prepare your own meals, obviously it'll be 50% cheaper. Rental is about $150-200 per week. Public transport is about $100+ per month.

For me after living here for so long, I feel home sick all the time, home is still home. I'm working in the health industry, after meeting so many aussies/ ABCs from different background, I am not sure if this is a good place for me to raise a family (I'm getting married next year). Low moral value, low family value, quite sad etc. But if you are still young, I guess this is a good place to earn and to learn, you'll get more opportunities here, australia value talents, if you are good, you will do very well here. Not like Malaysia, too many redtapes, racism is everywhere.
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Hey Silverfox,
What do you mean by low moral value and low family value?
Any examples to share? smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2010, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Dec 21 2010, 11:25 AM)
Hey Silverfox,
What do you mean by low moral value and low family value?
Any examples to share? smile.gif
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very common for ppl to get high with weed / alcohol here and sleep around with randoms (i'm assuming that is what silver is referring to here). you can beat a cop / glass a person and receive a suspended sentence - means you don't need to go to jail but if you re-offend you will then head jail. in theory this is suppose to be a good deterrent but don't be surprise to see a person having a 3-4 suspended sentence under his belt. get a good lawyer and dress up in an armani suit on the trial and the court will pretty much say alrite you felt remorseful over yr actions which is pretty fked if you ask me but yeah that's the justice system here.

in terms of family values i suppose getting married and divorcing is quite the norm here. in my previous workplace alone there are about 4-5 single mum raising their kids on their own cos the husband cheated, alcoholic, drug abuse, etc so yeah some food for thought here. btw, if you do get married ovre here pls choose the partner correctly, it's not uncommon for women to be allocated 75% of yr assets cos the media here portrays women as the 'victim' eventhough she is having an affair. again, getting a good lawyer to argue it's the husband fault for the women straying is quite common. happen tp know a frd's colleague whose wife was having an affair with the gym instructor and at the end have to give 50% still O_O. Heng no kids or more jialat ocs you have to pay parental support till the kid is 18.

family wise, ppl tend to move out after 18 to rent / stay with friends over here though the trend is starting to change now cos of crazy house prices and cost of living atm. not much comment on this as i have yet to start a family.

having said that, each country will have its problems so it's up to you to see which one outweighs the other from you.

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the above is just my observation, diff ppl will obviously have diff experience. been in perth for 8+ yrs so the views above are from a person whois paying tax (damn bloodsuckers) and not some tourist talk : )

This post has been edited by hotchoc: Dec 21 2010, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(hotchoc @ Dec 21 2010, 09:46 PM)
very common for ppl to get high with weed / alcohol here and sleep around with randoms (i'm assuming that is what silver is referring to here). you can beat a cop / glass a person and receive a suspended sentence - means you don't need to go to jail but if you re-offend you will then head jail. in theory this is suppose to be a good deterrent but don't be surprise to see a person having a 3-4 suspended sentence under his belt. get a good lawyer and dress up in an armani suit on the trial and the court will pretty much say alrite you felt remorseful over yr actions which is pretty fked if you ask me but yeah that's the justice system here.

in terms of family values i suppose getting married and divorcing is quite the norm here. in my previous workplace alone there are about 4-5 single mum raising their kids on their own cos the husband cheated, alcoholic, drug abuse, etc so yeah some food for thought here. btw, if you do get married ovre here pls choose the partner correctly, it's not uncommon for women to be allocated 75% of yr assets cos the media here portrays women as the 'victim' eventhough she is having an affair. again, getting a good lawyer to argue it's the husband fault for the women straying is quite common. happen tp know a frd's colleague whose wife was having an affair with the gym instructor and at the end have to give 50% still O_O. Heng no kids or more jialat ocs you have to pay parental support till the kid is 18.

family wise, ppl tend to move out after 18 to rent / stay with friends over here though the trend is starting to change now cos of crazy house prices and cost of living atm. not much comment on this as i have yet to start a family.

having said that, each country will have its problems so it's up to you to see which one outweighs the other from you.

disclaimer:
the above is just my observation, diff ppl will obviously have diff experience. been in perth for 8+ yrs so the views above are from a person whois paying tax (damn bloodsuckers) and not some tourist talk : )
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i can't agree more. this post is indeed some food for thought


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hey there,

i would like to know normally if one were to go for work and travel to Australia, would it be advisable to apply through australia agent like http://www.morganconsulting.com.au/ ?
or stick to the other option of contacting the employers directly through: http://www.backpackerboard.co.nz/australia/index.php ?



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i guess you are referring to working holiday visa, right ? WHV which i think you can apply on your own..

but, if you are talking about PR, then its different, where an agent is needed if your case is complicated or you dont have the time to run around..

QUOTE(OMG! @ Jan 24 2011, 11:19 PM)
hey there,

i would like to know normally if one were to go for work and travel to Australia, would it be advisable to apply through australia agent like http://www.morganconsulting.com.au/ ?
or stick to the other option of contacting the employers directly through: http://www.backpackerboard.co.nz/australia/index.php ?
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post Feb 5 2011, 03:37 AM

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Whatever it is,I think Australia is still better than here in Malaysia.At least the standard of education is far more advance compare to here (if you're thinking of migrating and raise your family there).The standard of education here in Malaysia is really sucks big time. I heard from a friend of mine that the 11yr old kids in Singapore starts to take literature.Wow!
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post Mar 11 2011, 08:18 PM

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Hi forumers,

In this end of year, I'm going to finish my degree study at Taylor's University. I have a internship for 6 month and I'm very interested to go Australia. The discourage of this internship is I've to do my own placement, but I've no choice because is compulsory.

I do some research on Australia and I acknowledge that in order to enter Australia for a job I need working holiday visa instead of Student Visa that only available foreign student who study at Australia. In other word, I've apply for working holiday visa.
in the past 2 week, I consulted E.T.Educational Service (http://www.etes.com.my/index.htm), they provide me visa, seek employer, accommodation, and they also estimate the return of investment as well as living cost. This offer is good for me to go Australia; however, the fees is RM20k for entire package.. hmm.gif hmm.gif

although they estimate the return of investment around 6 month time, but the point is the initial payment is RM20k. As a student, I've very difficult situation with the payment.

So here is my question

1) Do anyone know how to go Australia through agent with minimum charges?
2) Do anyone know about E.T.Education Service? I worried that they are some sort of cheater, RM20k is not small number.
3) Any other option to go work in Australia?

Please share your opinion
Your time is very appreciated
Bless you
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post Mar 11 2011, 10:41 PM

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Just a question: what is your degree designation and what are you looking for in Australia?



I realise it's actually two questions, but there's one question mark. Sue me.
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this sounds extremely dodgy...what type of organization would you be working for?? im guessing it would be a small company looking for cheap foreign labour. ask lots of questions to your agent and get in touch with your prospective employer to verify it
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since you are a student, the best visa you can opt for is only working holiday visa, where you can apply on your own..do go to immi.gov.au to search for the WHV and do some research..

if i were you, i wont go for that agent, rm20k is not a small amount, what if you cant find a job ? finding a job in aus as a fresh grad is not easy, as you need to compete with local australians and also international students studied there..what do you have that they dont have ?

just my 2cents..
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QUOTE(home.aziz @ Mar 11 2011, 10:41 PM)
Just a question: what is your degree designation and what are you looking for in Australia?
I realise it's actually two questions, but there's one question mark. Sue me.
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I like your last sentence LOL. I've hospitality and tourism management, specialized in Food service engineering and food science applied. But what I'm interested with my job designation is marketing department focus on dealing food and beverage.

QUOTE(MRD @ Mar 11 2011, 10:55 PM)
this sounds extremely dodgy...what type of organization would you be working for?? im guessing it would be a small company looking for cheap foreign labour. ask  lots of questions to your agent and get in touch with your prospective employer to verify it
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They do allow us to get in touch with the employer to interview me once I register. Is there anyway to know whether they are sort of agent who jack up the price working Aus?

QUOTE(annielee @ Mar 11 2011, 11:28 PM)
since you are a student, the best visa you can opt for is only working holiday visa, where you can apply on your own..do go to immi.gov.au to search for the WHV and do some research..

if i were you, i wont go for that agent, rm20k is not a small amount, what if you cant find a job ? finding a job in aus as a fresh grad is not easy, as you need to compete with local australians and also international students studied there..what do you have that they dont have ?

just my 2cents..
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You got the point, but I don't have the contacts in Australia. I need the supply (service) from Agent which they offer me the whole package, the good thing about them is they guarantee me they will provide 4-5 star hotel for me to work with and return of investment in 6 month working there. Do you have anyone who went Australia working? How they got in touch with them? =/
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be prepared to get a lot of cold water poured on u when u ask this type of question in LYN..esp with regards to migration... * speaking on a non-relevant capacity* just ignore the unhelpful/discouraging comment.
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Mar 11 2011, 11:47 PM)
be prepared to get a lot of cold water poured on u when u ask this type of question in LYN..esp with regards to migration... * speaking on a non-relevant capacity* just ignore the unhelpful/discouraging comment.
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yep... discourage comments is unavoidable. I appreciate your advice. thanks a lot. smile.gif

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