i do have a Australia PR, and fyi, even with that it's not easy for me to get a job when i first arrived, it took me about 6 weeks to get a job..and im not a frsh grad, i do have some years of experience in the field im working at..

nope, i dont know anyone when i arrived, i just applied online everyday and went for tones of interviews..which i nearly give up but luckily got a job that i like and moved to a better job after few months..

mind telling us whats ur studies or profession you are gonna be in ?

do you need 8k Aus Dollars for your 6 week time in Australia?
I study hospitality and tourism management, which I'm interested to join hospitality field.
currently I aim for marketing department. any suggestion?

i cant remember how much i spend for the 6 weeks..as i used my credit card most of the time, luckily i managed pay off when i got a job..
but that is not your worry now, as you need to get a visa to enter australia to work first..

as said, you are only qualify to apply for WHV at the moment..
ya, they can let you work in a 4-5 star hotel, but as what ? i doubt they can place you in a marketing dept straight...

im not sure which website you can use to search for job in hospitality in Aus, but i guess you can google and search..

bear in mind, now Aus government is strict on immigrants, and rules has been tightened every year, and im lucky i got my PR before that happen....

do ask the agent what type of visa they are providing, and check it on DIAC website to verify...

so your solution is google for vacancy, apply WHV, and go then. I do not understand how strict to obtain PR, but as long as I learn something there. I dun mind come back Msia. btw, thank for your precious advise.

Over the years I've had to help guide some friends through visas so thankfully I do have some understanding of Australian immigration process, though it's normally associated to accounting/business grads.

Anyway in your position I would take heed to what annielee's said so far. Eligibility to obtain a PR has been getting stricter over the past few years, especially so for a new grad. You can always try with the WHV, but it's quite unlikely that you'll find anything within your job designation.

Companies tend to look for graduates in such roles on a more permanent basis, as in at least a year or two, since companies take training quite seriously, and you would already be at a disadvantage there.

Since you mentioned F&B marketing, I would assume you'd be targeting well-known manufacturers and such. If that's the case then unfortunately that's also out, since they do their recruitment a year ahead; if you're in your final year this is the year you will be applying. It doesn't sound so bad, but they only look at graduates who are allowed to work on a permanent basis (Citizens/PR/etc.) I would assume this is pretty much the case for any reputable and sizable firms.

Now should you plonk down RM20k at the hopes of getting a job here? I wouldn't recommend it. Unless they can guarantee a good job (and you will need to read the fine print as in what they deem as one) or money back, it's generally a bad idea.

Now as to whether you should get WHV and try your luck here on your own? Why not? I don't know exactly the mindset of Malaysian companies, but companies here do like it when you've traveled a fair bit, especially if you work along the way; signals a lot of good things about the candidate. You'll get to experience Australia and at the same time hopefully you'll earn quite a bit.

Your best bet at finding a good job with the designation in mind is to work either in Malaysia or Singapore for a couple of years first, then try your luck in Australia.

my advise is to research and read more on the possibility to get a job or even visa to work in australia, if its not easy to get a job as a fresh grad in your profession, then apply for WHV, and dont waste your rm20k....

go here to read.. but this is more on PR to oz application forum..


This post has been edited by annielee: Mar 12 2011, 09:49 AM

The thing is though, in spite of how friendly Australia has been to immigrants, moving around for graduate work is quite hard if not damn near impossible for just about anywhere. They do give you all the options on migrating here, but you'd have to invest years, chunks of your lives since it's not just about work but actually moving your life here.

Not trying to deter NerdAlert from applying for WHV and try for something here though. If you're still keen on looking for the work that you want, try contacting recruiting agencies like Hays or Michael Page for advice.

can you tell me in what condition you get your PR? because of your long-term employment?

what do you mean by what condition ?

i applied PR on my own without any sponsor or job at all..
research and google as much as i can on the internet and found out i got enough points and go ahead to apply..
but i do encounter obstacles as well, as my 1st skills assessment failed coz i do not have enough years experience, so i have to wait for another year to qualify, and i waited and re-apply for skills assessment, and i passed :-) then i proceed to apply for PR, and got it in about 9 months :-)

but for graduates is not easy, as you dont have any working experience at all.. thats y, WHV is the only option for you..

I do not know how to express my feelings now, but I'm very glad that you show up in this thread and share your opinion.
Indeed, applying a job through is difficult in Australia. This year end will be my graduate, I take further delay to search for a job and I hope it not too late for me. As for the RM20k, the agent do guarantee for a good placement in hotel range between 4-5 star in AUS. But I doubt that they will. I think your advice is good, perhaps I think I should stay at Msia/S'pore for a couples of years...
Anyway, can you explain me about the WV in Aus? I only can apply once WHV in a life time?
Thanks for your time here, i really appreciate it.
Bless you

Thank your sharing the link! I take no delay to search for a job. If there is a possible career for me. Thank Annielee!

Thanks again! I really do! I try to search the availability career.

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Added on March 12, 2011, 12:25 pmI though WHV is once in a life time? 2nd year will be WV right? =/

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Added on March 12, 2011, 12:48 pmHi home.aziz..
both agencies does not have any attach with Malaysia..

This post has been edited by NerdAlert: Mar 12 2011, 12:48 PM

WHV is only once in a lifetime..
there's no working visa option for msian..
after WHV, you either apply for PR if you qualify or look for employer sponsorship..

This post has been edited by annielee: Mar 12 2011, 01:03 PM

sign* not pleasant to hear that, but anyway thanks a lot.
I wish i can obtain PR within a year...
but according to WHV's policy, I've to purchase of 2 way flight ticket. In other word, I've to go back. =(

WHV is a working holiday visa, and yes, you have to come back to Msia after the visa expires..

Even if you are traveling to Australia, you have to show a return ticket as well, as they are very strict on illegal work..

1 year ? unless you managed to find an employer to sponsor you, if you are apply for PR, 1 year is definitely is not enough..it will need at least 3-4 years, if im not wrong..

just to share... i am working in singapore now and i am sick of my job... i am also doing my masters part time at uni of adelaide, sg campus

so i thought why not transfer? but then cannot work..zzzz, so i found this

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...-migration/476/

apparently my previous uni, monash is in... so i will use this to get a job and study at the same time... hopefully when i grad then... i can apply for other visas

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...e-east-asia.htm

Well...just to share...

When I went over to Aust to study a masters degree in one of the G8 uni, I was already a qualified CPA with a few years of Big 5 work experience gain from Msia.

I applied for jobs which still pursuing the masters degree. Send in many applications letter to job agency. The reply I got at that time was,"Hey, you have good Big 5 work experience, but too bad you are not a PR, in order to work in Aust, you need a PR. Once you have a PR, with your experience, you will have job in no time..." It sounds so good and encouraging.

I applied for Aust PR thereafter. After 6 months, my PR was approved. Then I resume in sending out applicationg letters again. The reply I got this time was,"Yes, you are a qualified Australia CPA with Big 5 work experience, you have Aust PR, but to bad, your work experience is gain from Malaysia and not Aust. Meaning to say, you do not have Australian work experience. So please get some australian experience, then you will be in good shape in applying for jobs in Australia..."

I continued to send out application letters non stop. I stayed back for about 6 months after completed my masters degree hoping to get a job which didn't come. Then I decided to come back to Malaysia. My friend stayed back and got themselves some casual jobs to earn the so called "valuable" Aust working experience....

One of my friends shared this reply he got from job agency with me after he got some aust work experience from casual job...."Hmm, yes now you have some aust work experience, but it is not related to what you study and what you are applying for. Please get some related work experience before you apply..."

Hmm....it is really painful and not easy to migrate to Australia. Tried so hard and yet things just didn't work out. Till today, my plan of working and staying in Australia has turn into a Dream that will remain as a Dream forever.

yes, i do have the experience you've mentioned...

1. no PR, no job
2. got PR, no local (Oz) experience, also no job

when i first came over, i know it will be difficult to get a job, but didnt know it will be so hard..coz my professional cert is widely recognized, but they kept telling me without local experience, its very hard to hire me. but i gave myself 3 months, if still cant get a job, then i will be going back to msia..i send thousands over applications online and went for interview almost everyday....even went to Sydney (i was in Melbourne) for interview.. but still no good news...

i was lucky that one small local oz company willing to hire me as a contractor, the reason they gave is im the only one that can answer all their questions, so they didnt really bother whether i got local experience or not..and at the same time, there's a company in Perth where i did phone interview willing to hire me as permanent staff, but i chose to be a contractor in Melbourne, as i do not have to move to Perth even though moving there is not a problem to me as well.. that's how i got my 1st job.... after this 1st job, when the contract is nearing to end, it's not difficult for me to move to another job even though it's only few months as contractor..

no one mentioned coming to australia will be a bed of roses, but be prepare for the worst.. some really cant survive and even went back to msia..
i knew some came before the gfc, and found a job, but got redundant during gfc, and work casually in a non-related job to survive..and when the economy got better, he managed to get a job in his profession..

I hold a PR visa and am intending on moving back to Australia with 3 years of Malaysian IT working experience under my belt. I moved back to Malaysia upon graduation and have worked in IBM Malaysia and a local software consulting company in my 3 years back here.

Friends, what should I be prepared for, in terms of moving back to Australia?

My biggest concern, is of course, securing a job there.
I have tried applying on SEEK but have gotten minimal responses.

I would appreciate all advice

Have you quit IBM? If not, possible for you to apply for transfer to IBM Australia? This could be a good stepping stone for you as Australia emphasize a lot on "local (Australian)" working experience.

Hey anyone here knows the tax structure of australia in details? I know that there are a few salary brackets according to your salary range but the australia tax website did not really provide much details about tax rebate. Like in malaysia, you can claim tax rebate for books, sport equipment, housing interest and etc... does australia practise it as well or it is a flat tax structure. No rebate at all??

as you know, the higher you earn, the more tax you pay..
in oz, i dont recall claiming those tax rebate that you enjoyed in msia, as in oz the welfare is good enough, which is why i think not much tax rebates..
the only tax rebate i claimed b4 are work related training/exams....

you can find the rates in ATO website

there are few calculator on the website that you can used to estimate your monthly nett salary as well..

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Added on May 22, 2011, 1:39 ameven with PR, if you are not physically in Oz, i doubt you will get any replies from the SEEK jobs you applied..
it will be good if you can ask for a transfer from IBM Msia to IBM Australia..

definitely you will have face some hard time, as some recruiter will prefer local experience under your belt as well..


This post has been edited by annielee: May 22 2011, 01:39 AM