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Kravo
post Apr 27 2010, 01:23 PM

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imo, a main thing difference between AUS vs MY:

in AUS, there are laws, and they do function.

in MY, there are laws, but they only work for specific party.

Maybe someone can share out this experience:
Do you find any difference when you go to police station to lodge any complaint/issue between the 2 countries?
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post Apr 29 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Apr 27 2010, 01:23 PM)
imo, a main thing difference between AUS vs MY:

in AUS, there are laws, and they do function.

in MY, there are laws, but they only work for specific party.

Maybe someone can share out this experience:
Do you find any difference when you go to police station to lodge any complaint/issue between the 2 countries?
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I think thats just one of the factor - professionalism.

I went to their Immigration department before to update my visa previously.

1) Their guards are very professional and strict. If I work for immigration department, I will be very relieved that these guards will have my back. They will warn you for whatever minor offence you made in the immigration office, and will kick you out if you are being unreasonable.

2) The service agent that help me to update my visa is equally professional. They know the details from step 1 - step 10 and willing to explain to me why it will take time / need this and that details. I am particularly impressed that they are able to put a straight face and re-iterate to their clients even if the clients are playing Mr. Complain-a-lot.

I think that training do play a big part.
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post May 6 2010, 09:11 PM

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hi there,

I look thru the jobs ads in Australia. When they say Australia work visa is required, I wonder how can we apply the visa without getting a job first?

Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks.
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post May 6 2010, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(tomato123 @ May 6 2010, 09:11 PM)
hi there,

I look thru the jobs ads in Australia. When they say Australia work visa is required, I wonder how can we apply the visa without getting a job first?

Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks.
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With the exception of a TR/Bridging-visa/Working holiday visa, as far as I'm aware of there's none. If you are not a graduate from Australia, the first two options do not apply to you. And I have a feeling Malaysians are not eligible for their working holiday visa, but I stand corrected.
annielee
post May 6 2010, 10:14 PM

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malaysian can apply for WHV, but there's a quota every year..

i guess those job ad means, you can only apply if you can legally work in Oz, means u must have a valid visa and no sponsorship will be available..

as mentioned b4, in Oz u must have a visa to get a job..unless ur skills is super in demand, then a company might want to sponsor you..


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post May 7 2010, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(tomato123 @ May 6 2010, 09:11 PM)
hi there,

I look thru the jobs ads in Australia. When they say Australia work visa is required, I wonder how can we apply the visa without getting a job first?

Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks.
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The best way is to apply for a skilled visa, which is what most people do. If your professional skills are in demand, it shouldn't be a problem getting a visa which allows you to work in Australia. Believe me, the working visa system in Australia is really good compared to the US. I've been through both and much prefer Australia's system although I'm not currently working there (would probably return someday).
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post May 7 2010, 04:36 PM

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I was thinking of applying an Aus PR a few months ago coz I heard my occupation as a mechanical engineer has quite a strong demand there. However, most job ads that I came across require PR/citizen. Since I do not have enough points (only got 115/120...sad), I am unable to get PR. One possible way is to get 2 years job exp in Aus to secure another 15 points...more than enough for me to get PR by then.

The problem is....If I cant get a PR, I cant get a job. If I cant get a job, I cant get a PR. Sienz

I kinda feel is a chicken and egg situation for me....Dunno which one comes first.

Another option is to go for state sponsorship. I am eligible for that but the downside will be having myself stucked in the state for a few years.

Any advice?

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annielee
post May 7 2010, 04:40 PM

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you go another option..
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QUOTE(Nokia convert @ May 7 2010, 04:36 PM)
I was thinking of applying an Aus PR a few months ago coz I heard my occupation as a mechanical engineer has quite a strong demand there. However, most job ads that I came across require PR/citizen. Since I do not have enough points (only got 115/120...sad), I am unable to get PR. One possible way is to get 2 years job exp in Aus to secure another 15 points...more than enough for me to get PR by then.

The problem is....If I cant get a PR, I cant get a job. If I cant get a job, I cant get a PR. Sienz

I kinda feel is a chicken and egg situation for me....Dunno which one comes first.

Another option is to go for state sponsorship. I am eligible for that but the downside will be having myself stucked in the state for a few years.

Any advice?
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post May 8 2010, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(Nokia convert @ May 7 2010, 04:36 PM)
Another option is to go for state sponsorship. I am eligible for that but the downside will be having myself stucked in the state for a few years.
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State sponsorship is a good option. If you're going to be working in that state (find out if there are jobs there), then I don't think it's even an issue at all since you'll be living there while you work there. There are no restrictions on where you can travel, so you can still spend your weekends in other states if you wish to do so.
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post Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM

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Guys,

Hi fellow Malaysians. Just want to check with you all.. Will I survive with the salary of AUS $ 5000.00 per month in Aussie when considering the cost of living there is quiet high. Actually. I just don't know how high is it. I hope someone will enlighten me about this thing. I'm still single which mean I will be going there alone, so is it enough for me to survive there utilizing the said figure above? and would I have some money to bring back to Malaysia?

As all of you know there is a tax for expatriate being implemented is Australia and it is higher compare to other countries, so how it is calculated? and how many percent of the salary one have to pay taxwise?

For your information, I will be working at Perth/Western Australia. Are there any additional and useful information I need to know before going there?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jun 6 2010, 09:41 PM

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A$5k is after or before tax?
for tax details you can go to ato.gov.au
if you are non-resident, you will be paying higher tax..

usually the big chunk of your salary will be for the house rent, since you are going alone, you can either rent a room or a small apartment, which is guess will be around $300/week or less if you are not choosy..

whether enough or not, will depends on your spending....

for me when i was in sydney and melbourne, i found the stuff is cheaper over there than in Msia ($ to $) and managed to get some branded stuff..which i didnt managed to afford in Msia.. :-)

QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
Guys,

Hi fellow Malaysians. Just want to check with you all.. Will I survive with the salary of AUS $ 5000.00 per month in Aussie when considering the cost of living there is quiet high. Actually. I just don't know how high is it. I hope someone will enlighten me about this thing. I'm still single which mean I will be going there alone, so is it enough for me to survive there utilizing the said figure above? and would I have some money to bring back to Malaysia?

As all of you know there is a tax for expatriate being implemented is Australia and it is higher compare to other countries, so how it is calculated? and how many percent of the salary one have to pay taxwise?

For your information, I will be working at Perth/Western Australia. Are there any additional and useful information I need to know before going there?

Thanks in advance.
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This post has been edited by annielee: Jun 6 2010, 09:45 PM
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post Jun 6 2010, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 6 2010, 09:41 PM)
A$5k is after or before tax?
for tax details you can go to ato.gov.au
if you are non-resident, you will be paying higher tax..

usually the big chunk of your salary will be for the house rent, since you are going alone, you can either rent a room or a small apartment, which is guess will be around $300/week or less if you are not choosy..

whether enough or not, will depends on your spending....

for me when i was in sydney and melbourne, i found the stuff is cheaper in Msia ($ to $) and managed to get some branded stuff..which i didnt managed to afford in Msia.. :-)
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ooo.. that figure is before tax, so what will be the new figure after taxed? Goodness me, $300/week just for 1 room in an apartment. anyway, thanks for your reply.
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post Jun 6 2010, 09:53 PM

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according to ATO, you will have $3,943.00 nett per month..
btw, is that A$5k include super (aka EPF) if yes, then your nett will be lower, which is about $3,640.00

u can always opt to rent a room for the first few month which will cost less than $300/week, then when you've enough money, just get yourself an apartment....

its always harder at first when u move to a new country, but things will get better once you settle down..


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is aus a good place for biotech?
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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
Guys,

Hi fellow Malaysians. Just want to check with you all.. Will I survive with the salary of AUS $ 5000.00 per month in Aussie when considering the cost of living there is quiet high. Actually. I just don't know how high is it. I hope someone will enlighten me about this thing. I'm still single which mean I will be going there alone, so is it enough for me to survive there utilizing the said figure above? and would I have some money to bring back to Malaysia?

As all of you know there is a tax for expatriate being implemented is Australia and it is higher compare to other countries, so how it is calculated? and how many percent of the salary one have to pay taxwise?

For your information, I will be working at Perth/Western Australia. Are there any additional and useful information I need to know before going there?

Thanks in advance.
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i think tax is calculated at 50cents to a dollar you make being a non resident...perth is the most expensive city to live in at the moment..a 1000sq ft unit would cost about 400k aud due to overwhelming occupation of asian immigrants of late..

upon starting work you should get your tax file number and mostly you will be paid on a weekly basis and your tax deducted.. you would probably have a superannuation fund being paid by your employer depending on which sector that you work in..which can be collected upon your returning to malaysia however it also depends on the class of visa that you're travelling in..you will get medicare and get free consultation from doctors but prescriptions are payable at normal rates.. which sounds like a good thing but a 300+ fee is payable or deducted from your refunds upon doing your tax returns... which means if you went to the doctor once in a financial year it would cost you 300+ but if you went to the doctor for 300 times in a year, it will still cost you 300+ (you make up your mind whether it sounds good or not)

a second cook in a malaysian restaurant would probably make about 800 aud per week tax free (depending on negotiations with employer eg sometimes employer pay their taxes to avoid paying other funds) and would live quite comfortably... to have a char kueh tiew for lunch would cost you almost rm20 over there but to have a 3kg King Crab would only cost you 180 aud (in Malaysia the crab is going for the rate of rm30 per 100 grams) which translates to cheap food expensive and expensive food cheap..

while being there i would suggest you try all the western cuisines available and not think of malaysian food too much cos the western food there is mmmmmmmmm.......... also visit all the places that you wanna visit otherwise you will regret it just like i did...i stayed in melbourne for five years and only visited perth for a week and found it to be boring...but that is just me.. the opera house in sydney is a must and so are the beaches during summer.. and the raves if you are into electronic music and also all the live acts and concerts which we rarely get to see them perform in malaysia..and the alpines..ohh i think perth is not cold enough.. but in melbourne there is...check it out..

whether you will have money to bring home really depends on your level of comfort and spending...so there you go.. good luck mate..








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post Jun 7 2010, 11:34 AM

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What profession u are in & which location? AUD5000 should be enough if u don't spend a lot. Cook your own meal is very important. Else, u will start struggling.


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post Jun 7 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(toughgshock @ Jun 7 2010, 11:34 AM)
What profession u are in & which location? AUD5000 should be enough if u don't spend a lot. Cook your own meal is very important. Else, u will start struggling.
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cooking? you must be kidding right? I'm afraid that I will be lazy to cook... hehe,, I'm in Oil & Gas line and the company's office is located at Perth. I forget to ask before, beside the basic salary, does the offshore allowance still have to pay tax?
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post Jun 7 2010, 01:21 PM

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not joking..cooking is something you will pick up when you are there, since eating out is expensive :-)

you need to read things up, since i guess you are on 457 visa, where LAFHA allowance will still be taxable i think.. (i might be wrong)

im sure you can check with your company, right ? or go to other oz forums and read.. :-)

http://britishexpats.com/forum/
http://globalmalaysians.com/forum/forum_to....asp?FID=5&PN=1
http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/forums/i...hp?showforum=85


QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 7 2010, 01:17 PM)
cooking? you must be kidding right? I'm afraid that I will be lazy to cook... hehe,, I'm in Oil & Gas line and the company's office is located at Perth. I forget to ask before, beside the basic salary, does the offshore allowance still have to pay tax?
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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 7 2010, 01:17 PM)
cooking? you must be kidding right? I'm afraid that I will be lazy to cook... hehe,, I'm in Oil & Gas line and the company's office is located at Perth. I forget to ask before, beside the basic salary, does the offshore allowance still have to pay tax?
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Cooking at home and bringing your own lunch box to office is very common, unlike Msia. I thought of the same thing that i could eat outside, but after a while..i start calling back to Msia to get homecook recipe. Every meal is gonna cost u AUD10. And if you cook, it's gonna a fraction of that... AUD2.

Go out and enjoy the restaurant only during weekend.
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QUOTE(Them_Me_You @ Jun 7 2010, 01:17 PM)
cooking? you must be kidding right? I'm afraid that I will be lazy to cook... hehe,, I'm in Oil & Gas line and the company's office is located at Perth. I forget to ask before, beside the basic salary, does the offshore allowance still have to pay tax?
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AUD5k a month = AUD60k per year in oil and gas? U are pawned!!!!!

Freshie can get 65k in o&g..

allowance will be taxed as well. Btw if you are on 457 visa, ask ur company to recommend an accountant to adjust ur tax as you can get back some money for living allowance. Do it when you arrive in perth


Added on June 7, 2010, 3:47 pm
QUOTE(weng98 @ Jun 6 2010, 10:07 PM)
i think tax is calculated at 50cents to a dollar you make being a non resident...perth is the most expensive city to live in at the moment..a 1000sq ft unit would cost about 400k aud due to overwhelming occupation of asian immigrants of late..

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He will be living in australia so he will be considered as resident in terms of tax payment. Tax rate will be according to normal rates.

This post has been edited by jphlau: Jun 7 2010, 03:47 PM

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