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 [Review] Roccat Kave - Updated 8:55PM 27/Oct/2010, real 5.1 surround sound headset

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post Mar 5 2010, 09:29 PM, updated 15y ago

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Roccat Kave Review
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Outside the box:
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Took off the Kave's plastic wrapping, you see it has the Roccat and its logo printed on it.

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The back of the box, features briefly stated in 10 languages. Tech specs are also stated.

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The left of the box, features explained with introduction.

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The right of the box.

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The top of the box. As you can see, the box is sealed with 2 stickers


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Out of the box:
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Kave smilling at you biggrin.gif

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Proper paddings within the box to prevent the Kave from getting scratched even before you use it.

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The connectors. Green/Orange/Black/Pink. Green for front left/right, orange for center/sub, black for rear left/right while the pink's for the mic. The jacks are protected with rubber covers.

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The overall items found within the box.

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The miscellaneous, a Roccat member card included behind the booklet. A manual and a disc containing a demo and wallpapers of various resolutions.

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The included EQ/volume unit, Roccat call it the Desktop Remote.

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Kave's power'd up brows.gif

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Official tech specs from Roccat


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Headsets used for comparison:
  1. Razer Piranha
  2. Roccat Kave
  3. SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
Tested on:
    Realtek ALC1200 8.1 HDA Codec
    R2.43 drivers
Why Roccat? Why Kave?
No real reason why I bought it but if you want one then its the real 5.1 it offers. Attracted me by 1st sight. So I asked 3 dealers(moderno, Cex and lingloong) for their price and simultaneously placed an order for 2 units with Cex, one for me another for a friend(raxeus). That's about 24 hours ago. So Cex informed me that stock's ready for my collection yesterday night but due to lack of transport, I collected them this evening. Unboxed it nice and slowly. Finally got them on my head and ears, the feeling was great as opposed to Piranha, it really causes pain. But after prolonged usage, you'll feel the headset pressing down onto your head(too heavy). I compared these 3 headsets side by side and found the Kave best amongst them, the bass and clarity is not as good as the Piranha but much better compared to Siberia. The Siberia somehow lacked the crisp supposingly present in some audio. For audio clarity, I guess the Piranha would take champion but its really hard to distinguish which is better comparing with the Kave unless you're looping the same audio again and again to catch every note. The Kave's rear speakers are not as distinct as the front so I suggest have the rear's volume higher than the front. However, the Kave weights quite a lot. Apparently, the Siberia is found to be the lightest amongst the three while the Kave's heaviest. For build quality, all 3 of them are very good. The texture, the paint, the box, everything in good order. There's a problem with my set though, my Roccat member ID is not working but bah... Doesn't matter much as long as the Kave works perfectly. A point to note, I really like that EQ/Volume control unit, much more handy when it comes to adjusting volume, more convenient than the shortcut keys on my keyboard which are unresponsive at times. As for the adjustable Game/Movie mode, I can't tell the difference between these 2. I can hear very slight difference but I can't tell what it is. Am I the first to own Kave in Malaysia? icon_idea.gif

Update:
  1. If you play DiRT2 like bumper cars then you'll experience lotsa vibration from Kave's Game mode. When you turn around in your trailer, you can distinguish the 5.1 clearly.
  2. Did not sense vibration from COD:MW2 and H.A.W.X.
  3. Review layout updated. Click on images to enlarge.
  4. Did some research, static noise was created by PC Beep, mute it at Windows Sound control panel and the noise is gone. Kave works like a charm now brows.gif
  5. Roccat have replied my support ticket regarding the unusable Roccat ID and have fixed it for me. Its working now biggrin.gif
  6. After some tweaking, the vibration drivers and bass really kicked in. Flawless except the weight!
QUOTE(Roccat @ http://www.roccat.org/Support/ROCCAT-Kave/FAQ/#klb_77032_47_1_en_439)
Two options are available to you which control how the headset sound is mixed: ‘Game’ and ‘Movie’. The ‘Game’ setting is equivalent to the original 5.1 sound setting and is best suited to games, particularly first-person shooters. If you intend to watch films on the computer, ‘Movie’ is the best setting as it ensures that the voices sound clearer and more defined.


Comparison done:
  1. Comfortness:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★☆☆
      my head feels squashed
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★☆☆
      feels bit heavy eventhough there's cushion on top
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
      cushion padding is not as thick as the other 2 but most comfy amongst these 3
  2. Audio quality:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
      clear, crisp with strong bass, least static when highest volume
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★☆
      clear, crisp with moderate bass, much louder than Piranha and Siberia while retaining its clarity
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★☆☆
      clear, less crisp with weak bass, moderate static
  3. Bass quality:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★★
      very good bass but I think its too heavy
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★☆
      moderate bass but I think its just the right amount of bass
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★☆☆
      weak bass
  4. Design:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★☆☆
      the mic's a bit too far out in my opinion, some might find it difficult to record properly and limitted mic rotation
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★★
      the mic's 360° full adjustable, detachable mic and foldable
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
      didn't really liked the sides but overall great looking with detachable mic
  5. Mic quality:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★☆
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
  6. Mic sample:
    Roccat Kave
  7. Noise cancelling:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★★
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★★
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
  8. Cable length:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★★
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★☆
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★★
  9. Finishing quality:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★☆
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
  10. Packaging quality:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★★
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★☆
  11. Portability:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
      2 3.5mm jack(Green/Pink), 1 USB for blings
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★☆☆
      4 3.5mm jack(Green/Black/Orange/Pink), 1 USB for power(does not work without USB power)
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★★
      2 3.5mm jack(Green/Pink), 1 USB for equalizer/simulator
  12. Speaker configuration:
    Razer Piranha
      Stereo 2.1
    Roccat Kave
      Real 5.1
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      Simulated 7.1
  13. Price tags:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★☆
      RM249
      around average users' budget
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★☆☆
      RM339
      above average users' budget
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★☆☆
      RM359
      above average users' budget
  14. Competitors' overall in terms of everything compared above:
    Razer Piranha
      ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
      Quick discomfort, best audio amongst the 3, mic is clear but design may not appeal to everyone
    Roccat Kave
      ★★★★★★★★☆☆
      Can't work without USB power and discomfort after moderate duration of use. Great stuff at that price tag, one of the cheapest 5.1 headsets around
    SteelSeries Siberia Full-size Headset USB
      ★★★★★★☆☆☆☆
      Best comfort but worst audio amongst the 3, best portability and at a price tag that high I'd rather go for something else
  15. Tested on:
      Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
      Napoleon: Total War
      Mirror's Edge
      DiRT 2
      H.A.W.X.
      Bad Romance by Lady Gaga
        261kbps
      Crazy Dog by Big Bang
        192kbps
      Assassin's Creed Cello Trailer Theme by Jesper Kyd
        320kbps
      Spice and Wolf Opening Theme by Yoshino Yuuji
        320kbps
      Hope's Theme by Masashi Hamauzu
        320kbps
      Serah's Theme by Masashi Hamauzu
        320kbps
      Snow's Theme by Masashi Hamauzu
        320kbps
      Lightning's Theme by Masashi Hamauzu
        320kbps
      New Divide by Linkin Park
        320kbps
  16. Music samples for vibrations and bass for Roccat Kave(and others for comparison):
P.S.
1st time doing a review, any advice will be most welcomed. Correct me if I'm wrong in anyway, methods, data and so on. Thanks! notworthy.gif





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so many cable which is which usb pulak
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:16 PM)
so many cable which is which usb pulak
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usb for what??


Added on March 5, 2010, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 5 2010, 09:31 PM)
Why Roccat? Why Kave?
No real reason why I bought it but if you want one then its the real 5.1 it offers. Attracted me by 1st sight. So I asked 3 dealers(moderno, Cex and lingloong) for their price and simultaneously placed an order for 2 units, one for me another for a friend. That's about 24 hours ago. So Cex informed me that stock's ready for my collection yesterday night but due to lack of transport, I collected them this evening. Unboxed it nice and slowly. Finally got them on my head and ears, the feeling was great as opposed to Siberia and Piranha, they really cause pain. I compared these 3 headsets side by side and found the Kave best amongst them, the bass is not as heavy as the Piranha but much better compared to Siberia. The Siberia somehow lacked the crisp supposing present in some audio. For audio clarity, I guess the Piranha would take champion but its really hard to distinguish which is better comparing with the Kave unless you're looping the same audio again and again to catch every note. The Kave's rear speakers are not as distinct as the front so I suggest have the rear's volume higher than front. However, the Kave weights quite a lot. Apparently, the Siberia is found to be the lightest amongst the three while the Kave's heaviest.

Comfortness:
Razer Piranha || ★★★☆☆
Roccat Kave || ★★★★★
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★★☆

Audio quality:
Razer Piranha || ★★★★☆
Roccat Kave || ★★★★☆
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★☆☆

Bass quality:
Razer Piranha || ★★★★★
Roccat Kave || ★★★★☆
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★☆☆

Design:
Razer Piranha || ★★★☆☆
Roccat Kave || ★★★★★
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★★☆

Finishing quality:
Razer Piranha || ★★★★☆
Roccat Kave || ★★★★☆
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★★☆

Speaker configuration:
Razer Piranha || Stereo 2.1
Roccat Kave || Real 5.1
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || Simulated 7.1

Competitors overall:
Razer Piranha || ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Roccat Kave || ★★★★★★★★☆☆
Steel Series Siberia Full-size Headset USB || ★★★★★★☆☆☆☆
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what sound card u pakai for this review?

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM)
usb for what??


Added on March 5, 2010, 10:25 pm

what sound card u pakai for this review?
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USB to power up the LEDs and enable the EQ/volume controller to work.

No sound card sad.gif Realtek® ALC1200.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 5 2010, 10:34 PM)
USB to power up the LEDs and enable the EQ/volume controller to work.

No sound card sad.gif Realtek® ALC1200.
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Basically u hook only one cable (green cable) to the onboard mb sound card?

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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 5 2010, 10:33 PM)
Nice review bro. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:38 PM)
Basically u hook only one cable to the onboard mb sound card?
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1 for Piranha and 1 for Siberia but 3 for Kave.

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You asus PT6 mb got 3 audio input for onboard sound card?
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:44 PM)
You asus PT6 mb got 3 audio input for onboard sound card?
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It's a Realtek® ALC1200 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC to be exact. Quoted from http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=QtpKQuER...6trc&templete=2.
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How useful is the EQ actually?
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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 5 2010, 10:48 PM)
How useful is the EQ actually?
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I find it quite handy to mute/adjust volume than my keyboard's shortcut keys, quite unresponsive at times. As for the EQ its more to adjust the volumes for Center/Front/Rear/Sub only but if you find whichever direction is harder to distinguish then you may adjust it to be louder than the others. As for the adjustable Game/Movie mode, I can't tell the difference between these 2. I can hear very slight difference but I can't tell what it is.

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 5 2010, 10:52 PM)
I find it quite handy to mute/adjust volume than my keyboard's shortcut keys, quite unresponsive at times. As for the EQ its more to adjust the volumes for Center/Front/Rear/Sub only but if you find whichever direction is harder to distinguish then you may adjust it to be louder than the others. As for the adjustable Game/Movie mode, I can't tell the difference between these 2. I can hear very slight difference but I can't tell what it is.
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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 5 2010, 10:55 PM)
Better mid range?
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hmm.gif I'm not sure. But after repeated looping, Game mode sounded more solid than the Movie mode hmm.gif
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Wow! Very nice review bro! Keep it up!

Btw, the kave won't work until you plug the usb in right?
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QUOTE(j.sun @ Mar 6 2010, 01:12 AM)
Wow! Very nice review bro! Keep it up!

Btw, the kave won't work until you plug the usb in right?
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Yep, won't work till you plug in the USB. Another downside if you're looking for portability(PMP).
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bro, just an advice.
Go do a full burn in at least with 100 hours for headphones before giving a proper sound signature review. tongue.gif
300 hours is the best.
Because I suppose ur Kave is new ? And new headphone doesn't sound nice for alllll headphone. tongue.gif

but the review layout is nice to see. very neat thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Mar 6 2010, 01:25 AM)
bro, just an advice.
Go do a full burn in at least with 100 hours for headphones before giving a proper sound signature review. tongue.gif
300 hours is the best.
Because I suppose ur Kave is new ? And new headphone doesn't sound nice for alllll headphone. tongue.gif

but the review layout is nice to see. very neat thumbup.gif
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You mean it would sound better or worse after 300hours? That's 12 and a half days sad.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 01:29 AM)
You mean it would sound better or worse after 300hours? That's 12 and a half days sad.gif
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It will sound better. Just leave your music on with the headphones plugged in la. Will sound much more better smile.gif

thumbup.gif for your review

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 02:29 AM)
You mean it would sound better or worse after 300hours? That's 12 and a half days sad.gif
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yaya... what j-sun is right.
It will sound better after burn-in. Well for me at least. I also testing headphone when fresh out of box vs burnt-in biggrin.gif
100 hours will do basically. Just leave ur headphone with mid level noise... dont too loud.. later voice coil crack laugh.gif
QUOTE(j.sun @ Mar 6 2010, 02:38 AM)
It will sound better. Just leave your music on with the headphones plugged in la. Will sound much more better smile.gif

thumbup.gif for your review
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QUOTE(j.sun @ Mar 6 2010, 01:38 AM)
It will sound better. Just leave your music on with the headphones plugged in la. Will sound much more better smile.gif

thumbup.gif for your review
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Mar 6 2010, 01:47 AM)
yaya... what j-sun is right.
It will sound better after burn-in. Well for me at least. I also testing headphone when fresh out of box vs burnt-in biggrin.gif
100 hours will do basically. Just leave ur headphone with mid level noise... dont too loud.. later voice coil crack  laugh.gif
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I see, thanks for the invaluable advice. I will update you guys after 5 days tongue.gif
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if plug in usb only will work?
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QUOTE(vailance @ Mar 6 2010, 02:15 AM)
if plug in usb only will work?
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Yep, will only work if USB is plugged in. It acts as a power source to the EQ/Volume control unit while the unit power up the Kave.
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Mar 6 2010, 02:36 AM)
nice review, thinking about getting between siberia v2 or kave
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If the Siberia V2 has got better audio quality then go for it but if you're looking for surround sound headsets then Kave.
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nice review bro
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is it "berbaloi" if i change to this??
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Thanks for the review.
btw. I got the Kave exactly the same time as you. Scary, I know. I saw you post in the forums yesterday at 7pm. The same time as me.

Looks like we're the first two in Malaysia. Or at least, the first two who bothered to post. hahahaa

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notworthy.gif I just got my Roccat Kave yesterday after placing my order for like 5 months ago through Moderno laugh.gif. I don't regret waiting for that long though.. This is a fine gaming headset.

Wanna borrow my Elite PRO and test again? brows.gif.

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QUOTE(doob @ Mar 6 2010, 06:41 AM)
nice review bro
im currently using barracuda for 2 year +
is it "berbaloi" if i change to this??
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I don't think so unless you're wanting its 5.1.
QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 6 2010, 08:06 AM)
Thanks for the review.
btw. I got the Kave exactly the same time as you. Scary, I know. I saw you post in the forums yesterday at 7pm. The same time as me.

Looks like we're the first two in Malaysia. Or at least, the first two who bothered to post. hahahaa
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Haha, yeah. I couldn't wait to collect my Kave. Posted the 1st minute I reach home laugh.gif
QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 6 2010, 09:09 AM)
notworthy.gif I just got my Roccat Kave yesterday after placing my order for like 5 months ago through Moderno laugh.gif. I don't regret waiting for that long though.. This is a fine gaming headset.

Wanna borrow my Elite PRO and test again? brows.gif.
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brows.gif I would love to test them out again with your X-Fi brows.gif But I'm selling off my Piranha and my friend his Siberia sad.gif
QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 02:52 AM)
If the Siberia V2 has got better audio quality then go for it but if you're looking for surround sound headsets then Kave.
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After reading others' review about V2 I would recommend Kave any time. The audio quality for V2 is more or less the same as its predecessor while the price tag flies up from RM350 to almost RM500.

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How's the mic?
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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 6 2010, 09:31 PM)
How's the mic?
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Download/Play Kave's mic sample at http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/KaveMic-03.wav. I sound like a noob doh.gif

So how is it? I don't have Siberia's and Piranha's for comparison.

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Bro, will it work if only plug in 2 jacks? Which is mic and headphone, but had to choose which direction right..?

Of course with USB plugged in.
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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Mar 6 2010, 10:24 PM)
Bro, will it work if only plug in 2 jacks? Which is mic and headphone, but had to choose which direction right..?

Of course with USB plugged in.
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Yeap can work but what'd you mean by choosing direction? If you only plug in green then surely only have front left/right+sub(2.0/2.1).

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QUOTE(vailance @ Mar 6 2010, 02:15 AM)
if plug in usb only will work?
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Actually quite confused with what he's asking, lolz.
Just to be sure, only work if you plug in both USB and 3.5mm jacks. Not gonna work if you only plug in USB w/o the jacks.

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Edit : Btw, good review, Silverfire.

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM)
Download/Play Kave's mic sample at http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/KaveMic-02.wav. I sound like a noob doh.gif

So how is it? I don't have Siberia's and Piranha's for comparison.
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the price is kinda good but my heart want me to get a decent audio technica.haiz..............must compare the headphone 1st and then decide.
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QUOTE(Defallen @ Mar 6 2010, 10:34 PM)
Actually quite confused with what he's asking, lolz.
Just to be sure, only work if you plug in both USB and 3.5mm jacks. Not gonna work if you only plug in USB w/o the jacks.

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Edit : Btw, good review, Silverfire.
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omai....suara so macho  wub.gif

the price is kinda good but my heart want me to get a decent audio technica.haiz..............must compare the headphone 1st and then decide.
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I'ma record again nao! http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/KaveMic-03.wav.

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Sorry sorry, I'm a little noob at these, I thought every jack has it's own direction of sound, sorry. smile.gif

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 10:41 PM)
Got it captain, you can land your plane now on railway number 13.

It sounded really clear like those used in plane and watchtower communication.

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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Mar 6 2010, 11:10 PM)
Sorry sorry, I'm a little noob at these, I thought every jack has it's own direction of sound, sorry. smile.gif
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Well, you can plug the green jack into the black output then you'll get rear left/right instead of front left/right.
QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Mar 6 2010, 11:10 PM)
Got it captain, you can land your plane now on railway number 13.

It sounded really clear like those used in plane and watchtower communication.
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LOL! Hopefully I don't sound as noob as 01 and 02 in the newly recorded 03 icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 6 2010, 11:11 PM)
Well, you can plug the green jack into the black outpun then you'll get rear left/right instead of front left/right.
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I was asking that because I was worried that computers with only 2 audio jacks wouldn't get the full performance out of this awesome headphone. Got the answer, thank you! notworthy.gif
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how good is it when comparing it with zalman 5.1 headset?i own one,so loud,even i can feel the bass inside my head lol. cool.gif cool.gif
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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Mar 6 2010, 11:14 PM)
I was asking that because I was worried that computers with only 2 audio jacks wouldn't get the full performance out of this awesome headphone. Got the answer, thank you!  notworthy.gif
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how good is it when comparing it with zalman 5.1 headset?i own one,so loud,even i can feel the bass inside my head lol. cool.gif  cool.gif
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eh my friend having problem with the microphone on Kave. He plug in everything (USB + pink cable), the LED light is all on, but the mic isn't working in Skype.

All the settings should be correct.. When plug in other microphone it works.

Why like that...
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eh my friend having problem with the microphone on Kave. He plug in everything (USB + pink cable), the LED light is all on, but the mic isn't working in Skype.

All the settings should be correct.. When plug in other microphone it works.

Why like that...
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I mentioned... All LED lights are on... Windows settings also volume all set, all not mute.
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I mentioned... All LED lights are on... Windows settings also volume all set, all not mute.
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Read again blush.gif LED on means muted.

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Thanks to your review and good feedback.

I am probably going to get one of this.

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Thanks to your review and good feedback.

I am probably going to get one of this.
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Yeah, Kave makes me wanna try out Roccat's other products.
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OMG. THANK YOU. WE SO NOOOOOB OMG thanks lol
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Apuri and Arvo now?
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Ah... then wait for a Pyra.  laugh.gif
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So picky  innocent.gif
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We're consumers, must be picky with the money we spend rclxms.gif For my case, comfort, design and cable-free brows.gif

LOL! I realised you changed your links in your signature.

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hmm.gif Maybe Roccat Sense. Am using a wifi mouse now so Apuri is useless to me.
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good review though.. maybe it's time to review it again with the optional soundcard in.
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Be sure to give feedback on the Roccat Sense mousepad, interested  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Mar 7 2010, 02:08 AM)
good review though.. maybe it's time to review it again with the optional soundcard in.
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No money to get 1 cry.gif but then again I'm pretty sure the result will be more or less the same. While improving the soundcard, it improves the output for not only 1 headsets but for all of them especially for the Kave because its 5.1 as opposed to Siberia and Piranha's 2.1.


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  1. If you play DiRT2 like bumper cars then you'll experience lotsa vibration from Kave's Game mode. When you turn around in your trailer, you can distinguish the 5.1 clearly.
  2. Did not sense vibration from COD:MW2 and H.A.W.X.
  3. Review layout updated. Click images to view fullsize.


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how does it feel when it vibrates? Is it strong?
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how does it feel when it vibrates? Is it strong?
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Yep, strong enough for a proper good feel. If its an explosion, then it will imitate to do the same. But this vibration is only limited to audio with such output.

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u mean if play cs , the bomb explode , den got vibration?
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u mean if play cs , the bomb  explode , den got vibration?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 02:50 AM)
Unfortunately, no. No vibrations from CS:S sad.gif
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QUOTE(NeO2 @ Mar 8 2010, 02:51 AM)
hmmm, maybe certain new games only got... hmm.gif
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Hi i wanna know if u are able to distinguish clearly the directions of sound.. whether all 5 speakers can be distinguished properly... especially in CS and COD... Bioshock 2 will be a good silent FPS game to pin point where are the sounds are coming from

since its a 5.1. headphones it must be able to do it job.. can u make a comparison with the 5.1 simulated surroud sound by Siberia..

Thanks bro!

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Very nice review indeed, thumbup.gif for u TS!!

Now really looking forward to owning one in the near future.
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QUOTE(JasonJenn @ Mar 8 2010, 12:50 PM)
Hi i wanna know if u are able to distinguish clearly the directions of sound.. whether all 5 speakers can be distinguished properly... especially in CS and COD... Bioshock 2 will be a good silent FPS game to pin point where are the sounds are coming from

since its a 5.1. headphones it must be able to do it job.. can u make a comparison with the 5.1 simulated surroud sound by Siberia..

Thanks bro!
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Siberia is simulated 7.1 which I can't distinguish almost anything at all. As for the Kave, yes, all directions can be distinguished quite very clearly.
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Very nice review indeed, thumbup.gif for u TS!!

Now really looking forward to owning one in the near future.
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This 1 compare with Steelseries 5HV2 , which 1 will win ?
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4 jacks..
My lappy only got 3 sound jacks..
So means I can exclude 1 of them and still get 5.1 performance?
LOL..
Using desktop so long dy until 4get laptop got 3 holes only..
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Means I can either put all the cable and exclude the mic or should I exclude one of the cable and insert the mic?
Since I hardly use mics anyway..
Might intend to get 1 soon around april coz now stocks all too limited..
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My audio technica is on sabbatical leave till june..
Time to get a temp headset..

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This 1 compare with Steelseries 5HV2 , which 1 will win ?
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Its hard to say, some say Siberia's better than 5H v2 while the others say otherwise. So its mostly self preference, however most say 5H v2 doesn't have much difference from Siberia Full-size Headset USB so its totally up to you. Siberia Full-size Headset USB offers 2 50mm drivers while the 5H v2 has only 2 40mm drivers.
QUOTE(chiahau @ Mar 8 2010, 03:56 PM)
4 jacks..
My lappy only got 3 sound jacks..
So means I can exclude 1 of them and still get 5.1 performance?
LOL..
Using desktop so long dy until 4get laptop got 3 holes only..
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Means I can either put all the cable and exclude the mic or should I exclude one of the cable and insert the mic?
Since I hardly use mics anyway..
Might intend to get 1 soon around april coz now stocks all too limited..
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My audio technica is on sabbatical leave till june..
Time to get a temp headset..
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Well, too bad for you doh.gif exclude the mic then, use it when necessary.

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 05:00 PM)
Its hard to say, some say Siberia's better than 5H v2 while the others say otherwise. So its mostly self preference, however most say 5H v2 doesn't have much difference from Siberia Full-size Headset USB so its totally up to you. Siberia Full-size Headset USB offers 2 50mm drivers while the 5H v2 has only 2 40mm drivers.
Well, too bad for you doh.gif exclude the mic then, use it when necessary.
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LOL..
Laptop mostly have 3 sound jacks only ma..
If I indeed want to use it, guess I need an external SC gua..
Erm, no problem la..
Pandai2 use brain and improvise and hopefully the Roccat works lol..
Thankiu anyway..

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Wanna ask ,is there any headphone from Roccat(or other Manufacturer)that provide with real 7.1 surround speaker rather than simulate?
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Wanna ask ,is there any headphone from Roccat(or other Manufacturer)that provide with real 7.1 surround speaker rather than simulate?
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Razer Megalodon is real 7.1 biggrin.gif

Edit: After thorough checking Megalodon is simulated 7.1 with 2.1 speakers configuration.

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Razer Megalodon is real 7.1 biggrin.gif
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Really?Is there other 7.1 headphone?How about the performance?
Wow,same like Roccat(but Roccat is 5.1 real).Is that real 7.1 means got different speaker instead of maybe 2 speaker but simulate into a surround?
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QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Mar 8 2010, 05:37 PM)
Really?Is there other 7.1 headphone?How about the performance?
Wow,same like Roccat(but Roccat is 5.1 real).Is that real 7.1 means got different speaker instead of maybe 2 speaker but simulate into a surround?
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5.1 = front left/right, center/sub, rear left/right
7.1 = front left/right, center/sub, side left/right, rear left/right

hmm.gif After thorough checking, Megalodon's 7.1 is simulated.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 05:22 PM)
Razer Megalodon is real 7.1 biggrin.gif
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No, no, it's simulated 7.1 using the Maelstrom Engine.

Simulated as it is, the sound's pretty accurate in CS:S.

I'm guessing the Kave will be more accurate, it being real 5.1, have u tried it, bro?
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QUOTE(FidelisGVR @ Mar 8 2010, 05:48 PM)
No, no, it's simulated 7.1 using the Maelstrom Engine.

Simulated as it is, the sound's pretty accurate in CS:S.

I'm guessing the Kave will be more accurate, it being real 5.1, have u tried it, bro?
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Yep, I've tried CS:S, COD:MW2, COD4:MW and L4D2. All sounded fantastic. After reading some reviews about Megalodon they say the simulated 7.1 is not accurate.
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Just curious, how strong is the vibration.

Can't be good to have vibration in different areas of the head.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 8 2010, 06:08 PM)
Just curious, how strong is the vibration.

Can't be good to have vibration in different areas of the head.
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Strictly speaking, its quite soft but like you said, the headset being on your head, the vibration don't have to be so strong. It is strong enough to give you a realistic feel, provided the game/movie have such audio quality because most DVDRip and average musics only got 2.0 quality. So far I've only experienced vibrations in 5.1 movies/games.
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For gaming,can Roccat Kave pinpoint enemy location in CS accurately like audio technica ad700, roccat kave price are similar to audio technica ad700 in US
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For gaming,can Roccat Kave pinpoint enemy location in CS accurately like audio technica ad700, roccat kave price are similar to audio technica ad700 in US
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I've never used an Audio Technica before but I can tell you the Kave is accurate with the positioning.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 05:22 PM)
Razer Megalodon is real 7.1 biggrin.gif

Edit: After thorough checking Megalodon is simulated 7.1 with 2.1 speakers configuration.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 05:45 PM)
5.1 = front left/right, center/sub, rear left/right
7.1 = front left/right, center/sub, side left/right, rear left/right

hmm.gif After thorough checking, Megalodon's 7.1 is simulated.
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Yeah,thanks for your answer.That's what confusing out there.Anyway,is there any real 7.1 headphone in the market?The Kave,is wear long time in a room without air-con,will it be heat up easily?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 11:50 PM)
I've never used an Audio Technica before but I can tell you the Kave is accurate with the positioning.
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QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Mar 8 2010, 11:59 PM)
Yeah,thanks for your answer.That's what confusing out there.Anyway,is there any real 7.1 headphone in the market?The Kave,is wear long time in a room without air-con,will it be heat up easily?
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Well, it doesn't to me. Probably because I'm used to heat biggrin.gif
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Sorry i think i made a silly mistake over here .. but i am still curious hows the soundstage of roccat kave . The audiophiles guys are having a headphone gathering at berjaya times square , at 1 pm coming saturday . any roccat kave users want to come ? pm me pls .

how much does this roccat kave cost wondering .

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Uh... The Roccat Kave has 3 speakers aligned at 12 Degrees at each side of the headset doh.gif.
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Uh... The Roccat Kave has 3 speakers aligned at 12 Degrees at each side of the headset doh.gif.
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This is bad or good? i am noob in headphone.

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Well... Basically the sound quality is better than headsets which has simulated virtual sound.

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Well... Basically the sound quality is better than headsets which has simulated virtual sound.
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It is much more accurate than simulation.
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This is bad or good? i am noob in headphone.
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Roccat's aim is create a headset so accurate that the Kave's drivers are aligned at a 12' angle to provide maximum realism.
QUOTE(studwo @ Mar 9 2010, 02:17 PM)
Sorry i think i made a silly mistake over here ..  but i am still curious hows the soundstage of roccat kave . The audiophiles guys are having a headphone gathering at berjaya times square ,  at 1 pm coming saturday . any roccat kave users want to come ? pm me pls .

how much does this roccat kave cost wondering .
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Well... Basically the sound quality is better than headsets which has stimulated virtual sound.
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Simulated not stimulated doh.gif

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM)
For gaming,can Roccat Kave pinpoint enemy location in CS accurately like audio technica ad700, roccat kave price are similar to audio technica ad700 in US
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If compared with 5Hv2? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Mar 9 2010, 08:07 PM)
If compared with 5Hv2? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 8 2010, 04:00 PM)
Its hard to say, some say Siberia's better than 5H v2 while the others say otherwise. So its mostly self preference, however most say 5H v2 doesn't have much difference from Siberia Full-size Headset USB so its totally up to you. Siberia Full-size Headset USB offers 2 50mm drivers while the 5H v2 has only 2 40mm drivers.
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Hmmm...
I checked on both 5hv2's box and siberia's box...
Siberia's box wrote it's optimised for playing music and audio for games...

Anyone willing to lend me their 5hv2 for comparison??

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QUOTE(studwo @ Mar 9 2010, 02:17 PM)
Sorry i think i made a silly mistake over here ..  but i am still curious hows the soundstage of roccat kave . The audiophiles guys are having a headphone gathering at berjaya times square ,  at 1 pm coming saturday . any roccat kave users want to come ? pm me pls .

how much does this roccat kave cost wondering .
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QUOTE(raxeus @ Mar 9 2010, 10:39 PM)
Hmmm...
I checked on both 5hv2's box and siberia's box...
Siberia's box wrote it's optimised for playing music and audio for games...

Anyone willing to lend me their 5hv2 for comparison??
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Hihi,did you know where can I buy audiophiles headphone with more reasonable price here?
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Search around the forum or contact the distributor directly, I'm sure you can get a cheaper price.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 12 2010, 12:21 AM)
Search around the forum or contact the distributor directly, I'm sure you can get a cheaper price.
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AI,but from what I know,the price here rarely cheap even from the distributor. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 12 2010, 01:21 AM)
the profit margin is very low
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high demand high output cheaper price.

but all depends on distributor and their setting price
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM)
For gaming,can Roccat Kave pinpoint enemy location in CS accurately like audio technica ad700, roccat kave price are similar to audio technica ad700 in US
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What kind of post is this? blink.gif

AD700 are mid range Audiophiles cans which isn't the same league as the headphones from Roccat.

Pinpointing a location inside the game is really determined by:
-How good your sound card is in terms of reproduction sound not noise
-The realism in sound programming or digital enhancer such as those EAX and CMSSs'

Similar price doesn't always mean similar functionality or performance. Like F430 and Brabus CLS, cost roughly the same, but have different functions.


QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Mar 8 2010, 11:59 PM)
Yeah,thanks for your answer.That's what confusing out there.Anyway,is there any real 7.1 headphone in the market?The Kave,is wear long time in a room without air-con,will it be heat up easily?
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None of I can think of right now. But previously there were various companies who produce dual or tri speakers in a headphone to allow true audio channeling to be achieved...

QUOTE(studwo @ Mar 9 2010, 02:17 PM)
Sorry i think i made a silly mistake over here ..  but i am still curious hows the soundstage of roccat kave . The audiophiles guys are having a headphone gathering at berjaya times square ,  at 1 pm coming saturday . any roccat kave users want to come ? pm me pls .

how much does this roccat kave cost wondering .
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If you want to talk about sound staging in music terms, then the Kave isn't suited for you. The Kave is more or less a 5.1 speaker system build in a headphone form factor. Audiophiles guys usually are 2.0 type of guys and they are not interested in how much 'surround' sound a headphone can produce. They talk clarity vs muddy, narrow vs wide, bassy vs trebly, response vs lag and much more, which basically you need to spend years of listening to various types of heaphones...

Roccat cost RM339 at stores nationwide, price killer dealers excluded...maybe you can get it for RM281 from them if they are stupid enough to run business...


QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 9 2010, 05:27 PM)
This is bad or good? i am noob in headphone.
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Its good in the sense that you are hearing TRUE 5.1 sound rather than emulated, simulated and so on...today, basically a 5.1 channel audio isn't so much to ask and mid range priced motherboards usually has audiochips that supports 5.1 channel audio...

Previously if you have such built-in 5.1 audio capabilities, you will need to get a 5.1 speaker in order to enjoy 5.1 channel audio, but now since Kave has arrived, the audio ports at the back panel can now be utilized without the need of having a 5.1 speaker system...

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Mar 9 2010, 08:07 PM)
If compared with 5Hv2? hmm.gif
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Nothing beats Kave basically when it comes to TRUE 5.1 audio heaphones...simulated ones such as from SS, Razer or even Logitech are nice, but to be exceptional, true 5.1 is the way to go...So if you want to feel the difference, get a Kave....

Before this we haven't much choice, even for my gaming, I still use my Technics RP-F880, but now, I probably will retire my heaphone (for gaming n movies, but music still it will be use) and get me self a Kave... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Mar 9 2010, 11:10 PM)
Hihi,did you know where can I buy audiophiles headphone with more reasonable price here?

Hehe,got 1 SS headphone (forget what model already).Unfortunately,gave it to my sister.
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Audiophiles grade stuff and the verb reasonable seldom goes hand in hand....But if you talking about where to get 'a not so potong kepala prices' you can check out at GS in the music section where there are a couple of high quality headphones threads that is active...Usually Audiophiles shop will cut your head and tear up you wallet, because audiophile, like photography is an expensive hobby...yeah yeah, you can argue that 1000D or D5000 is cheap, but always remember that when it comes to quality, those cams worth nothing compared to their 1D or D3 brothers...

Audiophiles = 1D cool.gif
Average heaphones or earbuds that just produce soundnoise = 1000D

QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Mar 12 2010, 12:59 AM)
AI,but from what I know,the price here rarely cheap even from the distributor. hmm.gif
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If distro sell you cheap, the how would a dealer feel? or if distro sell you cheap, how cheap is it for the dealers then? whistling.gif




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Kave owners, try to boost your soundcard/good onboard soundcard's bass, 6dB or 9dB.

Then try this :

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Now, tell me if you have doubt on Kave bass performance.

I tried it on 75% volume and can't stand it anymore. The vibration really really helps.

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silverfire, which siberia headset do you tested against Kave? is it a Siberia V1 or V2 ?
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silverfire, which  siberia headset do you tested against Kave? is it a Siberia V1 or V2 ?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1348152&hl=
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QUOTE(Defallen @ Mar 15 2010, 03:14 AM)
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I tried it on 75% volume and can't stand it anymore. The vibration really really helps.
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75% Windows volume?
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I have it at 10 only sweat.gif Always had sweat.gif

Ready for some bass? brows.gif
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/djtontb_stat...ssee_remix).mp3
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/djtontb_dream_machine.mp3

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QUOTE(antonio @ Mar 12 2010, 03:56 AM)
Nothing beats Kave basically when it comes to TRUE 5.1 audio heaphones...simulated ones such as from SS, Razer or even Logitech are nice, but to be exceptional, true 5.1 is the way to go...So if you want to feel the difference, get a Kave....

Before this we haven't much choice, even for my gaming, I still use my Technics RP-F880, but now, I probably will retire my heaphone (for gaming n movies, but music still it will be use) and get me self a Kave... thumbup.gif
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Seems like a good opinion. Will think about it. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 15 2010, 03:57 AM)
laugh.gif I have mine on 28 ~ 40 depending on the game I'm playing.

laugh.gif And I finally can feel it vibrating hmm.gif.

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how does kave compare to zalman headphones?
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i now considering between to own Logitech G35 or Roccat Rave.

the price is different just around RM 50 and its not a problem with me, but i wondering which one provide more realism when come in term of gaming?

as we know G35 is simulated 7.1 and Rave is real 5.1.

the reason why i am asking is because most of G35 review said its a best headphone for gaming.
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cant wait to try out my own kave..it will arrive tomorrow
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so many ppl using kave
i think ill try it soon
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 15 2010, 03:57 AM)
Thanks...i think I will be burning my pair with these for around 200hours or so....

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Mar 15 2010, 04:11 AM)
Seems like a good opinion. Will think about it. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 15 2010, 05:52 PM)
i now considering between to own Logitech G35 or Roccat Rave.

the price is different just around RM 50 and its not a problem with me, but i wondering which one provide more realism when come in term of gaming?

as we know G35 is simulated 7.1 and Rave is real 5.1.

the reason why i am asking is because most of G35 review said its a best headphone for gaming.
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Try and read reviews for both products...observe the pros and cons of each and make sure to write it down...

Analyze both in terms of performance from a media viewpoint and real owner of the gears...

From there you I hope that it will help you to choose which is suited for your...


P/s: Kave is burning for the past 12 hours sweat.gif ...another 188 to go laugh.gif

Songs varies from hip hop to jazz to strings and harmonics to rock and techno....volume at 85%....I can hear the song even without wearing the heaphone... doh.gif
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shocking.gif So loud? My ears are already going to burst at 60.
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@antonio.

thanks for the advice man. i got to say, i might buy Kave for Real 5.1, not Simulated-typed. smile.gif

this Kave headphone perform well for both Music and Gaming?
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cry.gif My Kave's Volume Control Unit seems to be functioning strangely... The LED on the Volume Control Unit sometimes doesn't come on, sometimes goes on, and sometimes it blings. Could it be a faulty Volume Control Unit? hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 15 2010, 10:23 PM)
@antonio.

thanks for the advice man. i got to say, i might buy Kave for Real 5.1, not Simulated-typed. smile.gif

this Kave headphone perform well for both Music and Gaming?
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Hope you're happy with your choice...

I really dunno because I haven't fully test it yet...still burning the headphones...14hours now flex.gif

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 15 2010, 10:50 PM)
cry.gif My Kave's Volume Control Unit seems to be functioning strangely... The LED on the Volume Control Unit sometimes doesn't come on, sometimes goes on, and sometimes it blings. Could it be a faulty Volume Control Unit? hmm.gif.
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Light on = functional
Light Blink = mute
No light = No USB connection or USB power is unstable/ having problems....
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well i think its not a problem to wait you burn the headphone and share with us your review smile.gif

then i will make my decision smile.gif
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After ticking following options at Media Player Classic, vibrations are everywhere!
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 16 2010, 03:41 AM)
After ticking following options, vibrations are everywhere!
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woot! thanks for sharing bro cool2.gif will try later cool.gif brows.gif
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Haha, yeah. That's the one. Unfortunately I received 0 offers for it doh.gif
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wa.. so many settings. siao...
That means you can really fine tune it to perfect the sound.
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QUOTE(antonio @ Mar 16 2010, 12:11 AM)
Hope you're happy with your choice...

I really dunno because I haven't fully test it yet...still burning the headphones...14hours now  flex.gif
Light on = functional
Light Blink = mute
No light = No USB connection or USB power is unstable/ having problems....
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hmm.gif Okay... I switched USB ports already. So far it's going well hmm.gif.
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i got my KAVE today..and it was awesome...the sound is quite loud tho....i only use up till 30% only =/..but it is not tht suitable for those who wear glassess..=/
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QUOTE(lcs87 @ Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM)
i got my KAVE today..and it was awesome...the sound is quite loud tho....i only use up till 30% only =/..but it is not tht suitable for those who wear glassess..=/
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Yeap, Kave can be really loud. 10% volume would suffice for me.
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its quite heavy tho...O.O..havent really know how to use the control thing yet...now im doing a little burn in...
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Huhu great reviews for Kave rclxms.gif ..1 of my target since last year, but cant hold anymore and grab G35 a few month back haha doh.gif..Itchy to try it out if have a chances and maybe 2nd unit to keep.. So far my G35 really rox and bombing my ears, full blast but still soft to my ears..No regret own it. At least its cures some of the frustrated delays by Roccat sweat.gif
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HMMMM ..too bad for me im using asus hdav 1.3 sound card..only with hdmi output so no chance for using this...
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Two more for vibes and bass!

http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/dj.tiesto_red_shores.mp3
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/dj.tiesto_travels.mp3
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/dj.tiesto_chapter_2.mp3

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is it me or did u all manage to register ur Roccat ID?
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is it me or did u all manage to register ur Roccat ID?
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Read a few pages back or the 1st page. I've mentioned about invalid Roccat ID. You'll have to email them regarding your problem, along with a photo of your Roccat ID Member Card for verification.

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is there any benefit for registering your Roccat ID?
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hmm.gif Technical support, etc. You'll also feel proud. nod.gif.
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Not really, none that I know of sad.gif
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Another Roccat Kave user report in!!
These two days been crazy. Hoot Kone, then want to enjoy more oohhmm on my movie. Hoot the Kave. So far still burn in...
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i have informed them through the technical support thing. i only send them the picture of my ID after i got a reply?
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i have informed them through the technical support thing. i only send them the picture of my ID after i got a reply?
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Yeap, they will reply you in a week.
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http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/sfa_go!_jeremiad.mp3
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/sfa_hiding_wings.mp3
http://www.cruxiaer.com/audio/sfa_honor_winds.mp3
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yes, you can add profile just like LYN... you can add friend... you can download extras more like mapping, wallpapers- phone & desktop, etc more than non-members... there's another offers and privileges if you're lived in europe too laugh.gif
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the sound of my KAVE obviously sounds better than out of the box after 1 day of burn in. the surround is more distinctive now
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...28with_h%29.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ero_inmundo.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...fa_amanecer.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ione_sonata.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...tura_etnica.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ore_running.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...beyond_hope.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...nde_passion.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ancion_amor.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...boy%28mr%29.mp3

By the way, because I'm trying to upload ALL, I'm not filtering out bad ones. So please do feedback so I can review and remove the ones you guys think are bad.

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IMO, most of the music you've uploaded sounds great. Have my X-FI set to Jazz Club Mode with EAX Effect @ 4.0dB and Crystalizer at 75%.

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Keeping your piranha and selling your Kave? Why are you keeping the piranha?
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Mar 17 2010, 07:31 PM)
Silverfire.
Keeping your piranha and selling your Kave? Why are you keeping the piranha?
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My Piranha is sold sweat.gif
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u sure its legal to be uploading those songs here?
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They are legal to share if that's what you're asking me.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...a_deatholic.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21..._impressive.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...de_la_clave.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...a_como_loco.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...dark_temple.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ng_the_moon.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ektrik_tide.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ndo_veritas.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...pada_nigero.mp3
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ento_pasado.mp3
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...atar_fiesta.mp3
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21.../sfa_jeremy.mp3
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/20/21...ar_de_comer.mp3
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I find songs sound much nicer without the EQ turned on hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 17 2010, 10:48 PM)
I find songs sound much nicer without the EQ turned on hmm.gif.
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What EQ? How to turn off?
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Well... You have Realtek as your audio driver, so go explore the menu a lil hmm.gif can't remember how it looks like, but there's an option to turn it off.

EQ - Equalizer.

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Well... You have Realtek as your audio driver, so go explore the menu a lil hmm.gif can't remember how it looks like, but there's an option to turn it off.

EQ - Equalizer.
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I thought you meant the Kave sweat.gif

Yes, musics sound better from original source.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 17 2010, 08:21 PM)
I would recommend people to use lossless audio( eg. wav,flac,ape,lp,or high quality cds ) to test their kave. mp3 got it's flaw.


QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM)
For gaming,can Roccat Kave pinpoint enemy location in CS accurately like audio technica ad700, roccat kave price are similar to audio technica ad700 in US
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AD700 user here . i got no problem pin pointing enemy location in cod with my "2 channel" headphone . Where can I audition this headphone really want to know how it sound like .

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I would recommend people to use lossless audio( eg. wav,flac,ape,lp,or high quality cds )  to test their kave. mp3 got it's flaw.
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FLACs aren't easy to upload. Anyway, just to test vibrations and bass as stated.
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flac got .. deeper depth of bass . than mp3 .. mp3's total frequency is chopped at the highs and the lows.

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flac .. deeper depth of bass . than mp3 .. mp3's total frequency is chopped at the highs and the lows.
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Yeah, I know but Streamyx's upstream rate doesn't simplify the uploading part doh.gif unless you know where to download them instantly.
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tested with touhou lossless song with X-Fi Elite Pro, with Entertainment Mode, Equalizer Pop, and 75% tremble and 75% bass. IMBA NICE

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Anyone try this with Bad Company 2 PC version War Tapes setting with 5.1 setup up? (6 speaker count in setting.ini).

My old trusty logitech precision gaming headset left side died last week. Thinking of fully utilize my mobo 5.1 realtek with Kave, and the only game i currently playing is Bad Company 2, so anyone tested on that game?
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QUOTE(studwo @ Mar 17 2010, 11:38 PM)
I would recommend people to use lossless audio( eg. wav,flac,ape,lp,or high quality cds )   to test their kave. mp3 got it's flaw.
AD700 user here .  i got no problem pin pointing enemy location in cod with my "2 channel" headphone . Where can I audition this headphone really want to know how it sound like .
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Also .cue and .dts file. Even the file size is large and extreme large(.dts). But for the sound quality, it's totally worth it.
.dts file is mostly use in blu-ray/DvD that tuned with 5.1 surround (6 channels). Rare, but not impossible to find.
.cue is the closes to original record studio sample that can only be found on original CDs/DvDs. Much Llike CD-DA.

All above are told by my housemate working in recording studio as part time. Yes, one that tuned my Kave for me sweat.gif

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Letsay, ignore the 5.1 channel.

Roccat Kave and ATH-M30, which one produce more bass? Which one produce more clear sound?
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Guys....if compare this Kave with Razer Charcharias, which one is better?

Thanks. My girl need a new headphone. THinking of letting her have my Razer and buy this one. not much difference in price though
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finally my roccat ID can be registered already...but the special content is not really special as it can be obtained from the given CD..
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Mar 18 2010, 10:45 PM)
Letsay, ignore the 5.1 channel.

Roccat Kave and ATH-M30, which one produce more bass? Which one produce more clear sound?
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of coz m30 la for clear sound...
2 quality drivers against normal 6 drivers..
beside audio technica made its own driver, roccat may only oem those driver hmm.gif
bass dunno doh.gif

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Can anyone give me a configuration settings?
I got some doubt and problems fiddling with the 4 slider on the control, and also the windows speaker placement.

I put 5.1 for the speaker place configuration in the Sound in control panel.
The 1 with 3 speaker infront, 1 sub woffer, and 2 speaker at the back. Although there also the 5.1 speaker that is 2 speaker side by side.

I am also having a dilemma on the 4 slider settings. I put Center 100, Front 65, then Rear 100, and Bass 35 like that, and it still sound quite weird in War Tapes setting.

Anyone kindly share their comfortable configuration, be it on game or music or movie, just want to know the 5.1 speaker place is side rear or rear. then the 4 slider is what % of each.

Help~~~~
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Can anyone give me a configuration settings?
I got some doubt and problems fiddling with the 4 slider on the control, and also the windows speaker placement.

I put 5.1 for the speaker place configuration in the Sound in control panel.
The 1 with 3 speaker infront, 1 sub woffer, and 2 speaker at the back. Although there also the 5.1 speaker that is 2 speaker side by side.

I am also having a dilemma on the 4 slider settings. I put Center 100, Front 65, then Rear 100, and Bass 35 like that, and it still sound quite weird in War Tapes setting.

Anyone kindly share their comfortable configuration, be it on game or music or movie, just want to know the 5.1 speaker place is side rear or rear. then the 4 slider is what % of each.

Help~~~~
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hmm.gif From the ratios Defallen shown me, it is something like Center:Front:Rear:Sub as 50:65:65:80. And the whole of BFBC2 sounded weird to me doh.gif And the Rear for Roccat Kave is Rear not Side Rear.
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bro Zen weird like how ahh? mine everything fine like my speaker system.. but 1st time when i set center to low.. i cant hear the soldier voice/order.. so i put equal or slightly lower than front, same goes with rear channels. hmm.gif
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weird as in i hearing more "echoes" and hollow sound. then the bullet shots are like lower than my reload sound, so is damn weird. Then i change to Home Theater setting then is much better. The WAR TAPES setting really... not that comfortable IMHO.

@ TDUEnthusiast -- Thanks alot, will try your suggestion also.
@ SilverFire -- Thanks alot, that helps alot.
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Are you using onboard soundcard? Or a card from Creative that has no colour coding? hmm.gif.
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on board got color code and so on, is setup properly now, just that war tapes to me is abit over kill on the echoes and hollowness. maybe war does sound like that, but.... over kill la.
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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Mar 20 2010, 06:04 PM)
on board got color code and so on, is setup properly now, just that war tapes to me is abit over kill on the echoes and hollowness. maybe war does sound like that, but.... over kill la.
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Hey... I need to know some stuff bout BFBC2... There's no net problem right? hmm.gif Everything smooth?
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I've been using Kave for over a week now, so far I'm really2 pleased with the sound quality, the bass is definitely more punchy than my Barracuda HP-1. Shotgun blast is AWSESOME!! But I'm still tinkering with the volume to get the perfect audio accuracy.
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Recorded a small portion of Lady Gaga's The Fame with Kave's mic directly from speakers:
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Hey guys...bought my Kave today.. I must say everything is amazing, from the packaging, the unit itself, the presentation..but..

Just realize that my onboard sound card is...tiny. Only have three holes, one for mic and two for speakers.


So thinking of upgrading it...any recommendation? Oh...below RM350 please...

Thanks...looking at Creative line up now..
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Mar 25 2010, 07:31 PM)
Hey guys...bought my Kave today.. I must say everything is amazing, from the packaging, the unit itself, the presentation..but..

Just realize that my onboard sound card is...tiny. Only have three holes, one for mic and two for speakers.
So thinking of upgrading it...any recommendation? Oh...below RM350 please...

Thanks...looking at Creative line up now..
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CREATIVE X-FI XTREME AUDIO around RM239 , ASUS XONAR DX 7.1 around RM289 i guess or u can add summore money for CREATIVE X-FI TITANIUM @ RM375 brows.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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guyz,should i get a altec lansing 4121 or this roccat kave?now using ym monitor's speaker,bad quality..thinking of changing to a better 1.
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Mar 25 2010, 07:31 PM)
Hey guys...bought my Kave today.. I must say everything is amazing, from the packaging, the unit itself, the presentation..but..

Just realize that my onboard sound card is...tiny. Only have three holes, one for mic and two for speakers.
So thinking of upgrading it...any recommendation? Oh...below RM350 please...

Thanks...looking at Creative line up now..
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Sir. Look for kucingfight. He's selling OEM Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Elite PROs @ RM330 included postage. wink.gif It's a very good card.
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QUOTE(tcchuin @ Mar 25 2010, 10:30 PM)
guyz,should i get a altec lansing 4121 or this roccat kave?now using ym monitor's speaker,bad quality..thinking of changing to a better 1.
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i have both lol..now im only using KAVE...altec lansing vs4121 is not switched on anymore..imho the KAVE is better than the 4121.
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i already placed an order for this headphone but still waiting for my friend to bring it to me smile.gif

one question here - i will use this headphone on my laptop (Alienware M17x) which have 4 audio jack at its side. honestly i don't know the name/type of my soundcard, but do it will effect the quality of sound produce?
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Will receive it today for Kave rclxm9.gif because yesterday no stock.
Put my name on the list, Will Ya... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 26 2010, 05:48 PM)
i already placed an order for this headphone but still waiting for my friend to bring it to me smile.gif

one question here - i will use this headphone on my laptop (Alienware M17x) which have 4 audio jack at its side. honestly i don't know the name/type of my soundcard, but do it will effect the quality of sound produce?
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It shouldn't hmm.gif.
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Letsay, ignore the 5.1 channel.

Roccat Kave and ATH-M30, which one produce more bass? Which one produce more clear sound?
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m30 . is a bass monster.
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hye, does this headphone come with its own soundcard?
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hye, does this headphone come with its own soundcard?
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today just get roccat kave from modernopc..
amazing headset.. but just too heavy for me ><
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QUOTE(hiroka88 @ Mar 29 2010, 09:08 PM)
today just get roccat kave from modernopc..
amazing headset.. but just too heavy for me ><
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Be sure to wear it properly, the headband is supposed to be quite front.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 29 2010, 08:52 PM)
Nope, it doesn't. Why?
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i am asking because i am not sure how good is my default soundcard in my lappy.

is there any significant increment in quality if i use external soundcard? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 29 2010, 10:03 PM)
i am asking because i am not sure how good is my default soundcard in my lappy.

is there any significant increment in quality if i use external soundcard? hmm.gif
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Not sure, have never tried sad.gif I believe my onboard codec is good enough to satisfy me biggrin.gif

Anyway, just sent my Kave for warranty today doh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 29 2010, 10:08 PM)
Not sure, have never tried sad.gif I believe my onboard codec is good enough to satisfy me biggrin.gif

Anyway, just sent my Kave for warranty today doh.gif
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i thought so too. and hopefully so smile.gif

lorr whats wrong bro?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 29 2010, 10:11 PM)
i thought so too. and hopefully so smile.gif

lorr whats wrong bro?
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Uhh... After playing with the vibrations I realised there's like loose part on the left on the headset, can hear something like a spring vibrating against the wall.
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may i know how do u play with the vibration..coz i dont really feel much vibrations though.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 29 2010, 10:14 PM)
Uhh... After playing with the vibrations I realised there's like loose part on the left on the headset, can hear something like a spring vibrating against the wall.
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Ahhh.. that's sad ohmy.gif. Because of the mic, my father now keeps saying that Roccat is a china brand sweat.gif .
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How much for this headset o..?
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depend on seller.

i got mine for RM 315 smile.gif
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How much for this headset o..?
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got mine for 305 as well, thanks to silverfire, BWAHAHAHAHHAa
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im a new roccat kave user thumbup.gif just bought it yesterday for 300 laugh.gif
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Sigh :/ I got mine for RM330...
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QUOTE(zero07 @ Apr 2 2010, 10:09 AM)
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Where you bought it?
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QUOTE(zero07 @ Apr 2 2010, 02:59 PM)
i bought it from bruceleestore. that the best price he gave me. the other i don't know haha  biggrin.gif  just find his roccat thread in this forum  thumbup.gif
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Ok, thanks smile.gif
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how is roccat kave compared to siberia v2?

from this review i found out its compared with the earlier v1 version with usb (or was i wrong)
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 4 2010, 05:42 PM)
how is roccat kave compared to siberia v2?

from this review i found out its compared with the earlier v1 version with usb (or was i wrong)
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Yeap, I compared it with the USB version which is the V1. I've read a few Siberia USB vs. Siberia V2 reviews on the net, according to them, not much difference in sound quality and bass.
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i see.coz i was deciding between this and siberia v2.guess i will go for this

but the thing i dun like bout kave is it require a USB to work rite?else its dead
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Yeah true. It is really the only downside about this headset sad.gif
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roccat kave is being featured in the star intech as of today's issue
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Cool! What did Star say about Kave?
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2day oni publish?roccat website got the review frm star like weeks ago
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excuse me...
i would like to ask a few questions before i buy this mighty headphone.

1) Will it produce 5.1 effect when i play stereo music/movie?
2) The length of the wire from the headphone to the control unit,will it be too short?

thx a lot.
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excuse me...
i would like to ask a few questions before i buy this mighty headphone.

1) Will it produce 5.1 effect when i play stereo music/movie?
2) The length of the wire from the headphone to the control unit,will it be too short?

thx a lot.
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The wire length is long.

When you play 2.0 or 2.1 movies, you can switch audio outputs to all 5.1 with certain player's function.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 6 2010, 10:16 PM)
The wire length is long.

When you play 2.0 or 2.1 movies, you can switch audio outputs to all 5.1 with certain player's function.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 6 2010, 04:56 PM)
Cool! What did Star say about Kave?
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From Star Online

Conclusion

If you’ve ever wanted surround sound directly on your ears as you play games, we’d heartily recommend giving the Roccat Kave a go.

Heck, even if you’re not in it for the gaming, we’d still recommend checking out the Kave.

The crystal clear sounds that come from these headphones are a joy for anyone’s ears, provided, of course, that you aren’t some pencil-necked reviewer who can’t take the weight on his head.

Now can someone please suggest some neck-cercises for me?

Pros: Excellent sound clarity; 5.1-channel surround sound.

Cons: Headset too heavy for extended use.


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From Star Online

Conclusion
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Cons: Headset too heavy for extended use.
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LOL! Yeah, the weight's too heavy for me as well. Most probably the only downside for gamers.
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i cant wear the headset for too long myself...the weight is causing some headache after prolong usage.


Added on April 8, 2010, 8:59 amis it me or are all your kave's boxes are printed with a "4x40mm speakers" on the "40TD" box

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QUOTE(lcs87 @ Apr 7 2010, 06:55 PM)
i cant wear the headset for too long myself...the weight is causing some headache after prolong usage.


Added on April 8, 2010, 8:59 amis it me or are all your kave's boxes are printed with a "4x40mm speakers" on the "40TD" box
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err and what does it mean?
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"Imagine a headphone, not with simulated, but with three very real 40mm speakers arranged at a 12° angle embedded into the earcups" this is quoted from roccat site.
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nod.gif. The 4th is the sub hmm.gif.
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from what i observed from my kave. i only saw 2x 40mm driver on each side. the total is 4x speakers only. but i am not sure why the roccat site mentioned it was 3x speaker on each side.
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I can't see the third speaker ( left right behind ) too, it's covered. But press it and you will see it there. For god sake, why do you keep questioning Roccat's product?
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how is the comfort for this headset?

is the padding comfortable?
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how is the comfort for this headset?

is the padding comfortable?
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i heard the bass for this headset is not really that good from reviews i read online... is that true?

and i am interested to know how good is this earcup padding and the clamping force whether it will cause pain or not notworthy.gif
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i heard the bass for this headset is not really that good from reviews i read online... is that true?

and i am interested to know how good is this earcup padding and the clamping force whether it will cause pain or not notworthy.gif
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Nah, the bass is real good after some tweaking at the audio panel. As for the earcup padding, they wouldn't cause pain, just the weight will cause slight pain after long duration of usage.
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get X-FI sound card, and some tweaking... TADA! you will feel your face shaking

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 10 2010, 11:58 AM)
Nah, the bass is real good after some tweaking at the audio panel. As for the earcup padding, they wouldn't cause pain, just the weight will cause slight pain after long duration of usage.
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thanks for the feedback

so the pain u mean is the pain on top of ur head due to the pressing down of the head band?

the headband cushion tarak gooding?

QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Apr 10 2010, 12:59 PM)
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u mean tweak ur equalizer?
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thanks for the feedback

so the pain u mean is the pain on top of ur head due to the pressing down of the head band?

the headband cushion tarak gooding?
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The headband there got cushion but the headset is really quite heavy sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 10 2010, 03:01 PM)
The headband tissue there got cushion but the headset is really quite heavy sweat.gif
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@ <<someone>> With a X-FI Card, you should have the option to choose the amount of Bass ( In Percent / % ) in the control panel in Entertainment mode.
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Who compared AD 300 and kave b4?duno wan get which now
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 10 2010, 07:53 PM)
Who compared AD 300 and kave b4?duno wan get which now
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AD and gaming headsets cant compare one..
AD is for people like me, which prefers it over some gaming headset..
Well, i dun recommend you gt AD because the low ends one, wont be that good lol..
At least AD 500 above would be nice and sufficient for your gaming needs..

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Kave user reporting,e verything is perfect except for its weight, i think the cushion is a little bit too thin and small, that the weight it puts on the head is localized and causing headache, at least for me. Eh how do u tweak to get a better bass? I'm setting the base equalizer to max, rest on low and crack the master volume to max.

Apart from that, it's a fantastic headset! Tested on BC2, vibration doesnt kicks in during mortar strike or tank blast beside you. However, it does kicks in lightly when a chopper hovers near you , sometimes i hope it'll hover longer coz it feels like massaging your head tongue.gif

ah, using X-fi XtremeGamer btw!

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QUOTE(gzero @ Apr 11 2010, 04:56 AM)
Kave user reporting,e verything is perfect except for its weight, i think the cushion is a little bit too thin and small, that the weight it puts on the head is localized and causing headache, at least for me. Eh how do u tweak to get a better bass? I'm setting the base equalizer to max, rest on low and crack the master volume to max.

Apart from that, it's a fantastic headset! Tested on BC2, vibration doesnt kicks in during mortar strike or tank blast beside you. However, it does kicks in lightly when a chopper hovers near you , sometimes i hope it'll hover longer coz it feels like massaging your head tongue.gif
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Realtek audio codec?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 11 2010, 04:58 AM)
Realtek audio codec?
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There just updated tongue.gif using xfi xtremegamer
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No idea how sad.gif I'm using a Realtek HD Audio codec ALC1200 hmm.gif
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oh, im trying to get the strongest vibration this headset can produce now, dont know how, i feel like its kinda reluctant to vibrate at times, iw ill try some of your sample mp3 tongue.gif

update : oh i found the way to tweak on xfi as well, i can now adjust bass to the point that it make the headset rattles like crazy now

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actually, there`s a little way to wear a bit lighter

you must wear kave like you wear those clamp headphone, it means you can't you must choose a smaller size instead of big change to wear it tighter, so like that, weight will be distribute evenly.

for those that are using kave and having pain on top of their head, it's because you choose a big size and wear your kave loosely and the weight will be focus on top causing you some pain.

there's one thing as well, kave should be wear like.
1.the top where the cushion is should be in minor front a bit, this is also because you need to point the rear speaker to your rear.

2.don't wear loosely, or you will have suffer some pain on top of your head.
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Anyone whos wearing glasses tested it ? How comfortable is it ?
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Anyone whos wearing glasses tested it ? How comfortable is it ?
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I guess lotsa people here are wearing glasses/spectacles. I'm one of them tongue.gif it is comfortable enough for me, just the weight issue doh.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Apr 11 2010, 11:02 AM)
actually, there`s a little way to wear a bit lighter

you must wear kave like you wear those clamp headphone, it means you can't you must choose a smaller size instead of big change to wear it tighter, so like that, weight will be distribute evenly.

for those that are using kave and having pain on top of their head, it's because you choose a big size and wear your kave loosely and the weight will be focus on top causing you some pain.

there's one thing as well, kave should be wear like.
1.the top where the cushion is should be in minor front a bit, this is also because you need to point the rear speaker to your rear.

2.don't wear loosely, or you will have suffer some pain on top of your head.
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i thought if u tighten it'll be worse? that's why i loosen it afterward so that i let the earcup hold the headset in position and the top doesnt touch my head.

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Bro, add my name in the list =D loving this headphones
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i thought if u tighten it'll be worse? that's why i loosen it afterward so that i let the earcup hold the headset in position and the top doesnt touch my head.
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Nah, if you tighten, the weight will be more evenly distributed all over your head. Thus eliminating the pain on top of your head.
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WOW THIS HEADPHONE IS UNBELIEVABLE!

YES, I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE THE SOUND IS LOUD AS HECK! rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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WOW THIS HEADPHONE IS UNBELIEVABLE!

YES, I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE THE SOUND IS LOUD AS HECK! rclxms.gif  laugh.gif
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I only use around 10% volume for it doh.gif
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I only use around 10% volume for it doh.gif
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ahahaha!
eh why i don't feel any vibration at all? hmm.gif

and for listening to songs, what mode do you choose? Movie or Game?
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ahahaha!
eh why i don't feel any vibration at all? hmm.gif

and for listening to songs, what mode do you choose? Movie or Game?
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Game biggrin.gif

Did you tweak your audio equalizer?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 12 2010, 06:20 AM)
Game biggrin.gif

Did you tweak your audio equalizer?
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i am using Windows Media Player on Vista. is vibration available for that?

tried on Dirt2, no vibration detected. i hope its not broken or anything.

and do you maxed everything for Center, Front, Rear and Sub?
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50/50/50/75 for me. Windows volume is 10~20. I use Media Player Classic, better playback and more tweaking options, better quality audio playback too, with its packed codecs: http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm

Do you have a soundcard or are you using Realtek audio codec?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 12 2010, 06:33 AM)
50/50/50/75 for me. Windows volume is 10~20. I use Media Player Classic, better playback and more tweaking options, better quality audio playback too, with its packed codecs: http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm

Do you have a soundcard or are you using Realtek audio codec?
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thanks for the download link. i am using Vista 64bit, so i assume K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit is for me right?

don't know what kind of soundcard since i am using my laptop. thanks god my laptop have all 4 jack plug.

for audio driver, i am using SRS Labs of Audio Sandbox. seriously i am still newbie in high-end headphone like this. sweat.gif

i really appeciate all your tips notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 12 2010, 06:43 AM)
thanks for the download link. i am using Vista 64bit, so i assume K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit is for me right?

don't know what kind of soundcard since i am using my laptop. thanks god my laptop have all 4 jack plug.

for audio driver, i am using SRS Labs of Audio Sandbox. seriously i am still newbie in high-end headphone like this. sweat.gif

i really appeciate all your tips notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Nah, the 64bit codec pack is still in development as Media Player Classic does not support 64bit processing yet. So this would do.

hmm.gif Maybe you can increase the subwoofer's volume or fidelity at your SRS Labs' control panel or something?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 12 2010, 06:31 AM)
i am using Windows Media Player on Vista. is vibration available for that?

tried on Dirt2, no vibration detected. i hope its not broken or anything.

and do you maxed everything for Center, Front, Rear and Sub?
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tune your equalizer, and set your BASS and Kave's Sub higher to have vibration. =D
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 12 2010, 07:25 AM)
Nah, the 64bit codec pack is still in development as Media Player Classic does not support 64bit processing yet. So this would do.

hmm.gif Maybe you can increase the subwoofer's volume or fidelity at your SRS Labs' control panel or something?
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thanks for the link. i already download and install it.

i tried to set like you shown (Media Player Classic > Option > Audio Switcher > Enable Custom Channel Mapping > 3) and play .mp3 @ 320 kbps + SRS Audio Sandbox ON + Desk EQ 100/100/100/100 Game Mode. yet, still no vibration at all.

is there any basic setting that needed to tweak which i might forgotten? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Apr 12 2010, 07:46 AM)
tune your equalizer, and set your BASS and Kave's Sub higher to have vibration. =D
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done, but still negative.

/do you have any recommendation of good Sound Driver?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 12 2010, 08:46 AM)
thanks for the link. i already download and install it.

i tried to set like you shown (Media Player Classic > Option > Audio Switcher > Enable Custom Channel Mapping > 3) and play .mp3 @ 320 kbps + SRS Audio Sandbox ON + Desk EQ 100/100/100/100 Game Mode. yet, still no vibration at all.

is there any basic setting that needed to tweak which i might forgotten? hmm.gif
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You will need boost your bass level via software, it's included in my X-fi software. Not very sure about other sound card though. The reason you dont feel any vibration is because the default bass is not high enough to trigger the vibration. Set your Kave bass equalizer to max, Rear,Center,Front at about 1/4 to 1/2 level, and crank your master volume knob as high as possible. If there's still no vibration, chances is that you need to boost your bass via software means (i.e:equalizer)

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 12 2010, 06:43 AM)
thanks for the download link. i am using Vista 64bit, so i assume K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit is for me right?

don't know what kind of soundcard since i am using my laptop. thanks god my laptop have all 4 jack plug.

for audio driver, i am using SRS Labs of Audio Sandbox. seriously i am still newbie in high-end headphone like this. sweat.gif

i really appeciate all your tips notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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actaully this headset is not really high end sweat.gif

QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 12 2010, 08:46 AM)
thanks for the link. i already download and install it.

i tried to set like you shown (Media Player Classic > Option > Audio Switcher > Enable Custom Channel Mapping > 3) and play .mp3 @ 320 kbps + SRS Audio Sandbox ON + Desk EQ 100/100/100/100 Game Mode. yet, still no vibration at all.

is there any basic setting that needed to tweak which i might forgotten? hmm.gif
done, but still negative.

/do you have any recommendation of good Sound Driver?
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tried everything and i made conclusion that my vibration device is broken sad.gif

gonna send to be fixed once back to Malaysia this mid of June.
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tried everything and i made conclusion that my vibration device is broken sad.gif

gonna send to be fixed once back to Malaysia this mid of June.
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How much volume are you using?
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currently 12 @ 100/100/100/100.

but already tried till reaching 85%.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 14 2010, 06:17 AM)
currently 12 @ 100/100/100/100.

but already tried till reaching 85%.
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what songs or games did you try with it? hmm.gif
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what songs or games did you try with it? hmm.gif
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Crysis Warhead, MW2, DiRT2. songs - A LOT. especially The Fame Monster by Lady Gaga.

if i want to send for repair, where i have to send? back to my seller rite?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Apr 14 2010, 12:52 AM)
tried everything and i made conclusion that my vibration device is broken sad.gif

gonna send to be fixed once back to Malaysia this mid of June.
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if u want to try if ur vibration is broken or not. firstly try put the orange jack only into your soundcard or laptop. then try hear it as loud as u can. coz when i try put that orange jack only the bass became more louder and can feel the vibration. when i put them all i dont know why but it seem the bass become more slower. smile.gif

p.s. i put the orange jack into stereo jack

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the headset is giving my alot of small static sound whenever i turn up the center piece volume.....it didnt before

and now its giving me weird low pitch wavelength statics(dont know any more way i can interpret it) whenever i enable equalizer....is this internal issue, has
it gone bad already??....i just bought mine the day before yesterday...

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After using it,i had to said Kave is rocking.I use foobar2000 with Channel Mix,Noise Sharpening and running ASIO Output. The sound is so solid and clear. Btw,did you guys use Pink Noise to burn in your Kave?
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Hi all,

New Roccat-eer here. I just wanna share my experience with everyone. And maybe get some advice.

I bought the Roccat Kave the day after I read the review on The Star In-Tech. I didn't even know the brand existed before that, cause I don't read HWM and have never seen it on sale in Low Yat. Maybe I didn't look hard enough cause I am not big into gaming. I just play L4D2 and not even very good at it. I just play for the fun and laughter of spitting at Survivors.

Anyway, what attracted me to the Kave is that it has real 5.1 surround with actual speakers inside, and not just virtual surround (which although impressive, just isn't the same thing). As you might have guessed, I am heavy into surround sound. My home theater is all 7.1 Blu-ray lossless and all that, but lately I have been getting complains, and my work brings me home late at night so I can't really enjoy movies at louder settings. So I have been searching for a good surround headphone and the Kave was just what the doctor ordered, with multiple speakers and 3 x 3.5mm stereo inputs.

However, my experience with the Kave was not all sunshine and lollipops. When I first unboxed and plugged it in, I got a very loud static from the USB. This I connected to my PC. I tried connecting it to my amplifier, same thing. I connected it to my PS3, same thing. Not knowing what else I could do, I called the distributor (not the shop where I bought it from) and they adviced me (a day later) to bring it back to the shop for testing and maybe replacement. I did. I knew the shop very well by the way. The interesting thing was, when we tested it there, the static was not present. It was dead silent. Frustrated, I whipped out my laptop (which I had forgotten to test at home), and not only were there no static, it even sounded good. I brought the Kave back home and plugged it into my PC again, and this time around, no static! It's been over a week and the static issue has not re-surfaced. I hope it won't, ever again.

Then another issue arises. I read the reviews from a lot of sites, local and international, and almost all commended the Kave. I believe in them, that's why I bought it. Unfortunately, I can't quite get the Kave to work for me as I wanted it to. The sound was somehow not there. I mean, I am not comparing this to an Audio Technica or Sennheiser or AKG or Denon or Shure, but it just didn't convince me that this is what the reviewers heard. I mean, I didn't even get any vibrations. I was about to return the headphone to exchange with the Logitech G35.

Before I decided to do that, I thought maybe I should call up the distributor again. This time, I spoke to a product specialist, who discussed with me in great details on how to get the best out of the headphone, listened intently on my concerns and tried his best to help me with any advices that he could give. And after that, he even sent me an e-mail chronicling our conversation. I am more than impressed. At that point, I decided regardless of whether I can get the headphone to work or not, I am not returning it, just to show my support and appreciation for this kind of rare after-sales service.

But like I said, I wasn't expecting the Kave to sound like an AKG. I only wanted to hear what the reviewers heard. So I began to suspect my sound card settings (which worked for my Logitech Z5500), may not work this headphone. Ok, I knew it won't work (after all, I am not THAT noob) but no matter how much I tinker with the settings, I didn't get THAT sound. After reading through this thread, I realized something. I am using the Creative X-Fi ExtremeMusic sound card, 5-years old and discontinued. It was introduced even before Vista. And when I migrated to Vista, I only installed the driver and has been configuring the sound card from only the driver itself. So when I saw the screenshot of the Creative Launcher, I knew I have found the solution. Downloaded it, installed it, and from the various posts in this thread, I finally hear THAT sound.

The treble is clear and crisp even at higher volume. The mid-range is nothing to shout about, but not bad either. The surround, although not as pronounced as the Logitech Z5500, but that is to be expected. Still, I could pinpoint to the bulleyes where zombies are coming from. The vibration is kinda nifty, but very selective. L4D2 didn't seem to have it (although a teammate from Singapore told me that his similarly priced SkullCandy emits vibration from L4D2). No matter. Music and movies are properly configured now, but I only got the game settings in late last night. I was having trouble with the equalizer because the gunshots were either too sharp, or I couldn't hear the Special Infected. It's good now. Although, if anyone has some good settings, I'd welcome the advice.

And the headphone is LOUD! I often use it as a speaker! This is because I only have one soundcard and I need to pull out and plug in every time I want to switch between speakers and headphone. Actually, I do have an on-board Realtek soundcard but I really don't like the sound of it compared to the Creative. Maybe I am missing some calibration software again. I am not sure. So my problem now is, I need to be able to switch between the speakers and the headphone on the fly. I bought some splitters, but they were too big and they cannot fit side by side on the soundcard. So I bought extender cables for the splitters, and you know what I got after splitting the output? Mono sound. I have no idea why this is so. The splitters I bought were supposed to be stereo splitters, unless I was duped. So as of now, the Kave is connected to the X-Fi while the Z5500 is connected to the Realtek. Any advices?

On a related note, I am also looking into audiophile music playback on the PC, so maybe getting the Asus Xonar Prestige will solve my problem. Wonder if it will be as good for movies as it is for music. But then again, I will need to get another headphone for music. Maybe the Audio Technica M30 (I can't afford the jump to M50 and I owned the M30 before and I liked it).

It's a bit confusing right now with all the cables and multiple set-ups. Any advices you guys can give me will be very much appreciated. If not, I'll just keep testing out components by components. Thanks for reading by the way. It's a long post.

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Apr 19 2010, 05:36 PM)
Hi all,

   New Roccat-eer here. I just wanna share my experience with everyone. And maybe get some advice.

   I bought the Roccat Kave the day after I read the review on The Star In-Tech. I didn't even know the brand existed before that, cause I don't read HWM and have never seen it on sale in Low Yat. Maybe I didn't look hard enough cause I am not big into gaming. I just play L4D2 and not even very good at it. I just play for the fun and laughter of spitting at Survivors.

   Anyway, what attracted me to the Kave is that it has real 5.1 surround with actual speakers inside, and not just virtual surround (which although impressive, just isn't the same thing). As you might have guessed, I am heavy into surround sound. My home theater is all 7.1 Blu-ray lossless and all that, but lately I have been getting complains, and my work brings me home late at night so I can't really enjoy movies at louder settings. So I have been searching for a good surround headphone and the Kave was just what the doctor ordered, with multiple speakers and 3 x 3.5mm stereo inputs.

   However, my experience with the Kave was not all sunshine and lollipops. When I first unboxed and plugged it in, I got a very loud static from the USB. This I connected to my PC. I tried connecting it to my amplifier, same thing. I connected it to my PS3, same thing. Not knowing what else I could do, I called the distributor (not the shop where I bought it from) and they adviced me (a day later) to bring it back to the shop for testing and maybe replacement. I did. I knew the shop very well by the way. The interesting thing was, when we tested it there, the static was not present. It was dead silent. Frustrated, I whipped out my laptop (which I had forgotten to test at home), and not only were there no static, it even sounded good. I brought the Kave back home and plugged it into my PC again, and this time around, no static! It's been over a week and the static issue has not re-surfaced. I hope it won't, ever again.

   Then another issue arises. I read the reviews from a lot of sites, local and international, and almost all commended the Kave. I believe in them, that's why I bought it. Unfortunately, I can't quite get the Kave to work for me as I wanted it to. The sound was somehow not there. I mean, I am not comparing this to an Audio Technica or Sennheiser or AKG or Denon or Shure, but it just didn't convince me that this is what the reviewers heard. I mean, I didn't even get any vibrations. I was about to return the headphone to exchange with the Logitech G35.

   Before I decided to do that, I thought maybe I should call up the distributor again. This time, I spoke to a product specialist, who discussed with me in great details on how to get the best out of the headphone, listened intently on my concerns and tried his best to help me with any advices that he could give. And after that, he even sent me an e-mail chronicling our conversation. I am more than impressed. At that point, I decided regardless of whether I can get the headphone to work or not, I am not returning it, just to show my support and appreciation for this kind of rare after-sales service.

   But like I said, I wasn't expecting the Kave to sound like an AKG. I only wanted to hear what the reviewers heard. So I began to suspect my sound card settings (which worked for my Logitech Z5500), may not work this headphone. Ok, I knew it won't work (after all, I am not THAT noob) but no matter how much I tinker with the settings, I didn't get THAT sound. After reading through this thread, I realized something. I am using the Creative X-Fi ExtremeMusic sound card, 5-years old and discontinued. It was introduced even before Vista. And when I migrated to Vista, I only installed the driver and has been configuring the sound card from only the driver itself. So when I saw the screenshot of the Creative Launcher, I knew I have found the solution. Downloaded it, installed it, and from the various posts in this thread, I finally hear THAT sound.

   The treble is clear and crisp even at higher volume. The mid-range is nothing to shout about, but not bad either. The surround, although not as pronounced as the Logitech Z5500, but that is to be expected. Still, I could pinpoint to the bulleyes where zombies are coming from. The vibration is kinda nifty, but very selective. L4D2 didn't seem to have it (although a teammate from Singapore told me that his similarly priced SkullCandy emits vibration from L4D2). No matter. Music and movies are properly configured now, but I only got the game settings in late last night. I was having trouble with the equalizer because the gunshots were either too sharp, or I couldn't hear the Special Infected. It's good now. Although, if anyone has some good settings, I'd welcome the advice.

   And the headphone is LOUD! I often use it as a speaker! This is because I only have one soundcard and I need to pull out and plug in every time I want to switch between speakers and headphone. Actually, I do have an on-board Realtek soundcard but I really don't like the sound of it compared to the Creative. Maybe I am missing some calibration software again. I am not sure. So my problem now is, I need to be able to switch between the speakers and the headphone on the fly. I bought some splitters, but they were too big and they cannot fit side by side on the soundcard. So I bought extender cables for the splitters, and you know what I got after splitting the output? Mono sound. I have no idea why this is so. The splitters I bought were supposed to be stereo splitters, unless I was duped. So as of now, the Kave is connected to the X-Fi while the Z5500 is connected to the Realtek. Any advices?

   On a related note, I am also looking into audiophile music playback on the PC, so maybe getting the Asus Xonar Prestige will solve my problem. Wonder if it will be as good for movies as it is for music. But then again, I will need to get another headphone for music. Maybe the Audio Technica M30 (I can't afford the jump to M50 and I owned the M30 before and I liked it).

   It's a bit confusing right now with all the cables and multiple set-ups. Any advices you guys can give me will be very much appreciated. If not, I'll just keep testing out components by components. Thanks for reading by the way. It's a long post.
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I understand ur feeling regarding plug in n out the headphone/speaker. Well,i own a AudioTrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi and i have no problem with dual audio setup. My Kave is connected to the breakout cable which shown below:

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While my 2.1 speaker is connected via RCA which show below:

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With this setup,when i want to use speaker,i just need to unplug the Kave's USB and my speaker sounds like a charm. When i wish to use Kave,i just need to plug back the USB and switch off my speaker. Simple and easy.By the way,do you burn in your Kave ?I had burn in it with Pink Noise and it sounds better compare when i unboxing it.

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Nope, I have not burn-in my Kave yet, but the sound actually sounds better as every day goes by.

It's a nice setup, but unfortunately my Z5500 is also a 5.1 speaker system, so it won't exactly work for me if I want the option to go 5.1 on both my headphone and my speakers. Thanks for the advice though!
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its the default soundcard that equipped in my laptop. but i am surveying external soundcard. any recommendation, bro TDUEnthusiast?
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Sorry, not the Asus Xonar Prestige, but the Asus Xonar Essence ST. I have no idea why I said Prestige.
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its the default soundcard that equipped in my laptop. but i am surveying external soundcard. any recommendation, bro TDUEnthusiast?
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Apr 20 2010, 11:39 AM)
Sorry, not the Asus Xonar Prestige, but the Asus Xonar Essence ST.  I have no idea why I said Prestige.
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Don wan to consider AudioTrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi?U can connect ur z-5500 via optical and Roccat Kave via the 3.5mm jack breakout cable.
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Oh. That can work.

I am not very sure about AudioTrak. Is it good? How much is it?

I like the Essence is because I am looking for good, 'almost' audiophile-grade music.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Apr 20 2010, 04:10 PM)
Oh. That can work.

I am not very sure about AudioTrak. Is it good? How much is it?

I like the Essence is because I am looking for good, 'almost' audiophile-grade music.
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Well,may i know wat OS u r using now?As AudioTrak Win 7 drivers is not stable. This soundcard is semi-pro entry level card. Price is below RM 400,u can get it from here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...71&hl=AudioTrak


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Running on Windows Vista.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Apr 20 2010, 04:48 PM)
Running on Windows Vista.
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icic...so far d beta driver works fine wit my Vista Ultimate x64. tongue.gif
U can consider this card if u wish 2 play "concurent"/dual 5.1/on the fly switching 5.1 system. tongue.gif
Just my 2 cents. tongue.gif

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Very very interesting.

So now AudioTrak 7.1 HiFi vs. Asus Xonar Essence ST.

Maybe I should open a new thread. Out of topic edy. laugh.gif
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You just have to mute PC Beep at Windows Sounds and Devices to eliminate the statics. I stated it on the first page of my review.
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Guys one question, why it seems that I cant use this Kave when I have a normal speaker attached to the rig as well? The Kave wont make any sound unless I plug out the speaker jack.
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Try open up ur Sound setting and head into playback tab. Set ur Kave as ur default instead of Speaker.. nod.gif
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Thanks for sharing your experience with us here thumbup.gif

You mentioned that you've tried using the Kave on PS3. My friends and I are very interested in the Kave ('coz FIFA 2010 World Cup is OUT rclxms.gif ), we are wondering how we can connect it to the console... AFAIK, PS3 dun do analogue outs... pls share with us how u got it to work on PS3 notworthy.gif


QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Apr 19 2010, 05:36 PM)
Hi all,

  New Roccat-eer here. I just wanna share my experience with everyone. And maybe get some advice.

  I bought the Roccat Kave the day after I read the review on The Star In-Tech. I didn't even know the brand existed before that, cause I don't read HWM and have never seen it on sale in Low Yat. Maybe I didn't look hard enough cause I am not big into gaming. I just play L4D2 and not even very good at it. I just play for the fun and laughter of spitting at Survivors.

  Anyway, what attracted me to the Kave is that it has real 5.1 surround with actual speakers inside, and not just virtual surround (which although impressive, just isn't the same thing). As you might have guessed, I am heavy into surround sound. My home theater is all 7.1 Blu-ray lossless and all that, but lately I have been getting complains, and my work brings me home late at night so I can't really enjoy movies at louder settings. So I have been searching for a good surround headphone and the Kave was just what the doctor ordered, with multiple speakers and 3 x 3.5mm stereo inputs.

  However, my experience with the Kave was not all sunshine and lollipops. When I first unboxed and plugged it in, I got a very loud static from the USB. This I connected to my PC. I tried connecting it to my amplifier, same thing. I connected it to my PS3, same thing. Not knowing what else I could do, I called the distributor (not the shop where I bought it from) and they adviced me (a day later) to bring it back to the shop for testing and maybe replacement. I did. I knew the shop very well by the way. The interesting thing was, when we tested it there, the static was not present. It was dead silent. Frustrated, I whipped out my laptop (which I had forgotten to test at home), and not only were there no static, it even sounded good. I brought the Kave back home and plugged it into my PC again, and this time around, no static! It's been over a week and the static issue has not re-surfaced. I hope it won't, ever again.

  Then another issue arises. I read the reviews from a lot of sites, local and international, and almost all commended the Kave. I believe in them, that's why I bought it. Unfortunately, I can't quite get the Kave to work for me as I wanted it to. The sound was somehow not there. I mean, I am not comparing this to an Audio Technica or Sennheiser or AKG or Denon or Shure, but it just didn't convince me that this is what the reviewers heard. I mean, I didn't even get any vibrations. I was about to return the headphone to exchange with the Logitech G35.

  Before I decided to do that, I thought maybe I should call up the distributor again. This time, I spoke to a product specialist, who discussed with me in great details on how to get the best out of the headphone, listened intently on my concerns and tried his best to help me with any advices that he could give. And after that, he even sent me an e-mail chronicling our conversation. I am more than impressed. At that point, I decided regardless of whether I can get the headphone to work or not, I am not returning it, just to show my support and appreciation for this kind of rare after-sales service.

  But like I said, I wasn't expecting the Kave to sound like an AKG. I only wanted to hear what the reviewers heard. So I began to suspect my sound card settings (which worked for my Logitech Z5500), may not work this headphone. Ok, I knew it won't work (after all, I am not THAT noob) but no matter how much I tinker with the settings, I didn't get THAT sound. After reading through this thread, I realized something. I am using the Creative X-Fi ExtremeMusic sound card, 5-years old and discontinued. It was introduced even before Vista. And when I migrated to Vista, I only installed the driver and has been configuring the sound card from only the driver itself. So when I saw the screenshot of the Creative Launcher, I knew I have found the solution. Downloaded it, installed it, and from the various posts in this thread, I finally hear THAT sound.

  The treble is clear and crisp even at higher volume. The mid-range is nothing to shout about, but not bad either. The surround, although not as pronounced as the Logitech Z5500, but that is to be expected. Still, I could pinpoint to the bulleyes where zombies are coming from. The vibration is kinda nifty, but very selective. L4D2 didn't seem to have it (although a teammate from Singapore told me that his similarly priced SkullCandy emits vibration from L4D2). No matter. Music and movies are properly configured now, but I only got the game settings in late last night. I was having trouble with the equalizer because the gunshots were either too sharp, or I couldn't hear the Special Infected. It's good now. Although, if anyone has some good settings, I'd welcome the advice.

  And the headphone is LOUD! I often use it as a speaker! This is because I only have one soundcard and I need to pull out and plug in every time I want to switch between speakers and headphone. Actually, I do have an on-board Realtek soundcard but I really don't like the sound of it compared to the Creative. Maybe I am missing some calibration software again. I am not sure. So my problem now is, I need to be able to switch between the speakers and the headphone on the fly. I bought some splitters, but they were too big and they cannot fit side by side on the soundcard. So I bought extender cables for the splitters, and you know what I got after splitting the output? Mono sound. I have no idea why this is so. The splitters I bought were supposed to be stereo splitters, unless I was duped. So as of now, the Kave is connected to the X-Fi while the Z5500 is connected to the Realtek. Any advices?

  On a related note, I am also looking into audiophile music playback on the PC, so maybe getting the Asus Xonar Prestige will solve my problem. Wonder if it will be as good for movies as it is for music. But then again, I will need to get another headphone for music. Maybe the Audio Technica M30 (I can't afford the jump to M50 and I owned the M30 before and I liked it).

  It's a bit confusing right now with all the cables and multiple set-ups. Any advices you guys can give me will be very much appreciated. If not, I'll just keep testing out components by components. Thanks for reading by the way. It's a long post.
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A very in depth experience indeed~
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lol i just noticed that GundamManiac also dont have vibration from the headphone.
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Seems unrelevant reviews huh? hmm.gif
Kind of gimmick only? hmm.gif

Hoping GundamManiac would come again to compare with the G35 dolby perfomance.. hmm.gif
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after using >80 hours, the sound produced is improving. i honestly thought this whole burning thingy is just... placebo.. sweat.gif
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the vibration makes it more real..a bit "geli" at our ears la..hahaha..

@TS good review..keep it up..ur review good for me to test the kave...a lot thanx to you.. thumbup.gif
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If i were to buy a sound card to maximize the quality, which should i get ?

Would the CREATIVE X-FI XTREME AUDIO be enough ?
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An OEM Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Elite PRO at RM330 from kucingfight will do brows.gif.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 30 2010, 10:44 PM)
An OEM Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Elite PRO at RM330 from kucingfight will do brows.gif.
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agreed, am using it with kave now brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ May 1 2010, 02:13 AM)
agreed, am using it with kave now  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 30 2010, 10:44 PM)
An OEM Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Elite PRO at RM330 from kucingfight will do brows.gif.
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Thz for the recommendation...

But i dun see it in any pricelist...
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Is using the sound card would maximise ur sound quality?
I heard that Razer Megaldon 7.1 got sound card built in..
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That's because it's being sold by kucingfight wink.gif.
Kucingfight - OEM X-FI Elite PRO at RM330
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. And sorry I have been gone for some time. Was busy fiddling with my new HTC Legend Android phone.

Ok, vibration got. After I downloaded the software for X-Fi and set the Bass Cross-over Frequency to 120Hz and Boost the Bass to +12dB (as instructed in earlier posts), the vibration is there, but if you turn it up to an uncomfortable level, the vibration will shake your head! But only for movie and music. Gaming don't have.

I did not get the Kave to work for the PS3. I connected it to the PS3's USB for power only. The audio I got it from my AV Receiver via headphone out. PS3 connected to AV Receiver via HDMI.

And by the way, I have already set my mind on Asus Xonar Essence ST. Anyone knows where I can get it cheap cheap?

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 4 2010, 03:05 PM)
Thanks for the feedback, guys. And sorry I have been gone for some time. Was busy fiddling with my new HTC Legend Android phone.

Ok, vibration got. After I downloaded the software for X-Fi and set the Bass Cross-over Frequency to 120Hz and Boost the Bass to +12dB (as instructed in earlier posts), the vibration is there, but if you turn it up to an uncomfortable level, the vibration will shake your head! But only for movie and music. Gaming don't have.

I did not get the Kave to work for the PS3. I connected it to the PS3's USB for power only. The audio I got it from my AV Receiver via headphone out. PS3 connected to AV Receiver via HDMI.

And by the way, I have already set my mind on Asus Xonar Essence ST. Anyone knows where I can get it cheap cheap?
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wat is the name of the software? Can i get it fromd earlier post?Thx
Btw...i think Asus Xonar Essence ST got no more new stock, as newer model is Asus Xonar Essence STX which uses PCI-Express X1.
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hi all, im using m15x laptop and apparently it dont have 4 port.. it only have 2 output and 1 mic jack.. but im using creative xfi external sound card tho.. so all i need to do is to plug it into the external sound card and it can have 5.1 output already rite? any external sound card user here enlighten me plz.. hehe thanks
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I've tried to get the G35 for a comparison but can't find anywhere or anyone kind enough to give me a demo.

The name of the software is Creative Launcher. Only works if you are using a Creative X-Fi Series sound card.

I actually prefer the PCI version, but if no more stock, then no choice lor. The PCI-E X1 slot in my PC is quite obscurely placed, so that's why I don't want to use it.

As for external sound card... I think this one will suit your needs, if you can find it: http://asia.creative.com/products/product....9&product=16642
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 6 2010, 10:02 AM)
I've tried to get the G35 for a comparison but can't find anywhere or anyone kind enough to give me a demo.

The name of the software is Creative Launcher. Only works if you are using a Creative X-Fi Series sound card.

I actually prefer the PCI version, but if no more stock, then no choice lor. The PCI-E X1 slot in my PC is quite obscurely placed, so that's why I don't want to use it.

As for external sound card... I think this one will suit your needs, if you can find it: http://asia.creative.com/products/product....9&product=16642
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"IF" i not mistaken, PCI-Express X1 card can be used in PCI-Express x16 slot. I see a few people doing this. Perhaps u can google around in d forum.
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That's what I am hoping too, cause I have a spare PCI-E x4 slot that is in a much better place.

I am getting the sound card tonight. Wanted to wait for the KL International AV Show this end of July (Audio Visual, not Adult Video), but I can't wait that long. The in-built sound card on my motherboard really sucks donkey buttocks. I can't stand it anymore.

Also, going to get Audio Technica ATH-M30 along with it. I know it's not the best cans to get, but that's the only one decent enough that I can afford right now.

Maybe during the AV show I will look see look see if there are any good ones at cheap cheap prices.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 6 2010, 04:39 PM)
That's what I am hoping too, cause I have a spare PCI-E x4 slot that is in a much better place.

I am getting the sound card tonight. Wanted to wait for the KL International AV Show this end of July (Audio Visual, not Adult Video), but I can't wait that long. The in-built sound card on my motherboard really sucks donkey buttocks. I can't stand it anymore.

Also, going to get Audio Technica ATH-M30 along with it. I know it's not the best cans to get, but that's the only one decent enough that I can afford right now.

Maybe during the AV show I will look see look see if there are any good ones at cheap cheap prices.
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Not to be blunt, but it does.

I just bought it last week and the only thing I can say is: I endorse it.

I don't just recommend it, I endorse it. This is the first product that I endorse, although I am no celebrity.

I will probably write a separate review for this product, but it's pretty pointless, since there are so many professional reviews out there. Suffice to say that I have never heard music in such a state before. I have heard music that almost seem physical, like you can reach out and touch it, but this is actually the first time I have heard music with emotions, music that will stop you dead in your tracks, make you drop whatever you are doing, and draws you into the emotion of the song itself. It wasn't just like the singer is standing there in front of you, but it was like the singer's presence, his spirit is there with you, and you can hear every single change in his/her tone of voice, what he/she feels when each and every single word is sung. This card is not just a beauty, it is heavenly.

But like I said, that should be on a separate review. This thread is about Roccat Kave, and about surround sound for gaming. How does this card fare? Incredible.

The sound card has a game mode that can utilizes Dolby Headphone to create a sense of surround sound with a normal stereo headphone. In this case, I am using the Audio Technica ATH-M30. The effects? Stunning. Positioning were good, and the fidelity of the sound are the most accurate I have ever heard from a computer sound card.

HOWEVER. A virtual surround is STILL a virtual surround. When compared to the Roccat Kave on a Creative X-Fi sound card, I have to say the Kave and X-Fi combo has a more accurate surround effect (of course). Thanks to the multiple speakers inside the Kave and the triple stereo outputs of the X-Fi, surround effects has more accuracy. But you know what? After installing the Xonar, the X-Fi actually sounds better! Probably because the new hardware installation 're-booted' all sound settings to default, and this time, with the proper tweaking, the Kave sounded even better than before. The highs are not ear-piercing, and the lows are boomy. Best of all, the Kave is shaking my face even in games now! I mentioned before, while playing L4D2, the Kave does not vibrate. This time, not only it does, it does so incredibly! Every explosion, every melee hit to the head, every Boomer exploding, man it was awesome! For those of you who are using X-Fi and unsure of the settings to put, I have included them in the screenshot below.

So now I have 2 sound systems, and 3 sound cards in my PC. The integrated sound card in the motherboard does not fit my description of a sound system. The Xonar + Audio Technica works for music and movies and occasional gaming (it should also be noted that the Xonar bitstreams DTS and Dolby Digital to my Logitech Z5500 via an optical out, and damn do they sound amazing). The X-Fi + Kave combo are used only for gaming, and it gets so fun I just can't stop!

My next experiment is to connect the Kave to Xonar. Now this will only produce stereo sound, but I want to know how the Kave fares in terms of music production. I do not think it can beat the Audio Technica ATH-M30, but no harm giving it a try.


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very good review you have there sir, but may i ask few more questions? smile.gif

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I will probably write a separate review for this product, but it's pretty pointless, since there are so many professional reviews out there. Suffice to say that I have never heard music in such a state before. I have heard music that almost seem physical, like you can reach out and touch it, but this is actually the first time I have heard music with emotions, music that will stop you dead in your tracks, make you drop whatever you are doing, and draws you into the emotion of the song itself. It wasn't just like the singer is standing there in front of you, but it was like the singer's presence, his spirit is there with you, and you can hear every single change in his/her tone of voice, what he/she feels when each and every single word is sung. This card is not just a beauty, it is heavenly.

this is about Xonar + Audio Technica isn't it?

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HOWEVER. A virtual surround is STILL a virtual surround. When compared to the Roccat Kave on a Creative X-Fi sound card, I have to say the Kave and X-Fi combo has a more accurate surround effect (of course). Thanks to the multiple speakers inside the Kave and the triple stereo outputs of the X-Fi, surround effects has more accuracy. But you know what? After installing the Xonar, the X-Fi actually sounds better! Probably because the new hardware installation 're-booted' all sound settings to default, and this time, with the proper tweaking, the Kave sounded even better than before. The highs are not ear-piercing, and the lows are boomy. Best of all, the Kave is shaking my face even in games now! I mentioned before, while playing L4D2, the Kave does not vibrate. This time, not only it does, it does so incredibly! Every explosion, every melee hit to the head, every Boomer exploding, man it was awesome! For those of you who are using X-Fi and unsure of the settings to put, I have included them in the screenshot below.

is this soundcard good for gaming to?? sound blaster x-fi surround 5.1.

thanks! laugh.gif

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Yes and yes.

The X-Fi External is your only option for surround sound gaming on notebooks. At that price? BUY IT!!!!
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 10 2010, 05:06 PM)
Yes and yes.

The X-Fi External is your only option for surround sound gaming on notebooks. At that price? BUY IT!!!!
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gonna buy that tomorrow! brows.gif

anyway, for that external soundcard that mainly for gaming purpose, it surely will improve the quality of sound produced for listening to songs compared to default built-in sound chipset in mobo right? because its a waste if the improvement is limited to certain usage only..
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I have never personally use that sound card before, but if I know Creative, and I think I do, your music will improve over your mobo integrated sound card. Unless your integrated sound card is built by Asus, then I don't dare say lor.
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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Mar 20 2010, 10:13 AM)
weird as in i hearing more "echoes" and hollow sound. then the bullet shots are like lower than my reload sound, so is damn weird. Then i change to Home Theater setting then is much better. The WAR TAPES setting really... not that comfortable IMHO.

@ TDUEnthusiast -- Thanks alot, will try your suggestion also.
@ SilverFire -- Thanks alot, that helps alot.
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Hi,

I got my kave's yesterday.
Im having the same problem, both while watching movies as while playing MW2. It seems it has to do with the rear and center speakers, as when you turn this down the echo becomes less.
How did u solve this problem?

Im on a asus xonar d2.
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Did you set it to 5.1 Speaker Channel, instead of 7.1? hmm.gif.

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It does not make a difference.

Strange thing is that the `rear` plug needs to go in the `side` to work on 5.1. So i set it to 7.1, that way the `rear` entrance works.

When plugging it into `side` and choosing 5.1, it give me the same weird sound.
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just brought Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB but getting hard time to setting it! vmad.gif

it keep playing with my lappy speaker instead of Kave.

any idea why? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 12 2010, 12:58 PM)
just brought  Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB but getting hard time to setting it!  vmad.gif

it keep playing with my lappy speaker instead of Kave.

any idea why?  rclxub.gif
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You might want to take a look at the playback devices, which one is selected.
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QUOTE(Forseti_jan @ May 12 2010, 07:23 PM)
You might want to take a look at the playback devices, which one is selected.
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forgive my noobness, but care to explain in more details?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 12 2010, 01:33 PM)
forgive my noobness, but care to explain in more details?
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start - configurations - sound. then go to playback devices tab (this is win 7 and vista)

example: user posted image
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it solved now. need to spend some time with this setup before throwing some comments smile.gif

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QUOTE(gzero @ Apr 12 2010, 03:27 PM)
You will need boost your bass level via software, it's included in my X-fi software. Not very sure about other sound card though. The reason you dont feel any vibration is because the default bass is not high enough to trigger the vibration. Set your Kave bass equalizer to max, Rear,Center,Front at about 1/4 to 1/2 level, and crank your master volume knob as high as possible. If there's still no vibration, chances is that you need to boost your bass via software means (i.e:equalizer)
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actaully this headset is not really high end sweat.gif
try set ur equalizer to something like this and see if it works
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where is the source of vibration actually? cause i felt none.. guess my item is really have problem.. sweat.gif
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@ mr doctor. Ive noticed using different media players help. Foobar didnt make is vibrate, but Media player classic did

edit: issue seems to be with the xonar d2 as they function fine on my onboard audio. Time to get a different audio card. ( and i just sold my creative pro xD)

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QUOTE(Forseti_jan @ May 13 2010, 05:09 PM)
@ mr doctor. Ive noticed using different media players help. Foobar didnt make is vibrate, but Media player classic did

edit: issue seems to be with the xonar d2 as they function fine on my onboard audio. Time to get a different audio card. ( and i just sold my creative pro xD)
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tried, still negative.

already contact with my seller for arrangement to check my Kave.
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Wait, this may be a stupid question, but have you tried turning up the Bass knob on your Creative Launcher, AND on your Kave remote?
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 14 2010, 02:10 AM)
Wait, this may be a stupid question, but have you tried turning up the Bass knob on your Creative Launcher, AND on your Kave remote?
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yep. tried. i turn the knob till my ear nearly burst. but in the high volume, i can hear something shaking... maybe the same problem as TS mentioned before. guess my item is really problematic..

luck. i have none.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 14 2010, 10:21 AM)
yep. tried. i  turn the knob till my ear nearly burst. but in the high volume, i can hear something shaking... maybe the same problem as TS mentioned before. guess my item is really problematic..

luck. i have none.
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I use ASUS Xonar DX and i use Kernel Streaming output, played several FLAC song and crank up the volume louder den usual,and there is vibration...
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Don't quote me on this, but I believe the unit is not broken.

As long as you can feel some shaking, it means it is working.

I used to have that same problem. I believe it is a setting problem. Keep looking for anything with Bass setting.

If you guys notice his screenshot, his Creative Launcher does NOT have the Bass and Treble knob. Tried changing the bass setting in your Control Panel?

I am determined to help you get it shaking, cause it's really fun when you are playing a game and it starts shaking.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 17 2010, 04:39 PM)
Don't quote me on this, but I believe the unit is not broken.

As long as you can feel some shaking, it means it is working.

I used to have that same problem. I believe it is a setting problem. Keep looking for anything with Bass setting.

If you guys notice his screenshot, his Creative Launcher does NOT have the Bass and Treble knob. Tried changing the bass setting in your Control Panel?

I am determined to help you get it shaking, cause it's really fun when you are playing a game and it starts shaking.
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thanks for the determination bro.

actually for the past 2 days, after some tweaking, i do feel the vibration (finally, thanks God! notworthy.gif ). but under normal volume ~40%, the vibration is pretty weak. sweet!

@30%, the vibration is almost can't be felt. after trying some .mp3 with high bass, yes, the vibration is felt perfectly! laugh.gif

this setting and vibration only can be felt when i use together with X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround external soundcard. if using default soundcard in my lappy - none, even @ 100%.

EDIT : in the nutshell - i don't think my Kave is faulty unit. its just my default soundcard with is too crappy. doh.gif sweat.gif


p/s : thanks for your recomendation to go for X-Fi USB 5.1 Surrounding. its worth every penny of it thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 17 2010, 06:52 PM)
thanks for the determination bro.

actually for the past 2 days, after some tweaking, i do feel the vibration (finally, thanks God! notworthy.gif ). but under normal volume ~40%, the vibration is pretty weak. sweet!

@30%, the vibration is almost can't be felt. after trying some .mp3 with high bass, yes, the vibration is felt perfectly! laugh.gif

this setting and vibration only can be felt when i use together with X-Fi USB 5.1 Surround external soundcard. if using default soundcard in my lappy - none, even @ 100%.

EDIT : in the nutshell - i don't think my Kave is faulty unit. its just my default soundcard with is too crappy. doh.gif  sweat.gif
p/s : thanks for your recomendation to go for X-Fi USB 5.1 Surrounding. its worth every penny of it thumbup.gif
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on default soundcard lappy it produce a bit of vibration..ive already tested it..i just plug the orange and green jack plug..but the vibration didnt satisfy our needs..hahaha..n of course external sound card should do the powerful vibration... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ May 17 2010, 08:02 PM)
on default soundcard lappy it produce a bit of vibration..ive already tested it..i just plug the orange and green jack plug..but the vibration didnt satisfy our needs..hahaha..n of course external sound card should do the powerful vibration... biggrin.gif
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yup. its seems default soundcard between laptop and desktop is not the same afterall.

TS did all his review just using default soundcard on his mobo, but no problem regarding vibration or whatsoever.
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Different breeds lah bro.

Those of us who really demands something out of our equipments just cannot live with integrated sound cards. Mine is really bad when compared to the X-Fi and the Xonar Essence.

It's like you have a RM 10K speakers and then you connect it direct to a DVD player without going through an amp. Where got sound?

But 40% is quite loud. I can't make it past 30%. Too loud. Don't want to go deaf. Try to play L4D2 with it if you have it. Damn fun when the Tank is chasing you and the headphone is vibrating to the stomps. Or when you blast the head off a zombie with a shotgun. Or when you charge a guy into a wall. Just awesome.

But I gotta say, if it wasn't for the product specialist from Roccat distributor in Malaysia that I called, I would have probably returned the headphone before it realized its full potential. So thank him too. I am sure he is reading this. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 17 2010, 10:04 PM)
yup. its seems default soundcard between laptop and desktop is not the same afterall.

TS did all his review just using default soundcard on his mobo, but no problem regarding vibration or whatsoever.
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So did that media player tweak just work for movies? Or does it somehow have an impact in games?

So more questions -

My onboard sound is:

Realtek ALC 883 8 -Channel High-Definition Audio CODEC
Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports at back I/O
Support Jack-Sensing, Enumeration, Multi-streaming

This good enough or should I aim to get an external?

I see kucingfight is selling various Creative cards, is it ok to get the lowest end one? Which would you guys recommend?

[2ndBuLK] OEM Creative X-FI ELITE PRO. TOP OF THE LINE
[6th WTBULK]OEM Creative SB046A XtremeGamer Fatal1ty
[WTBulk] OEM Creative Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
[WTBulk] OEM Creative Xtreme Music 0460

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So did that media player tweak just work for movies? Or does it somehow have an impact in games?
it doesn't work for me. maybe need more time to tweak it.
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QUOTE(bryan @ May 18 2010, 12:01 PM)
So did that media player tweak just work for movies? Or does it somehow have an impact in games?

So more questions -

My onboard sound is:

Realtek ALC 883 8 -Channel High-Definition Audio CODEC
Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports at back I/O
Support Jack-Sensing, Enumeration, Multi-streaming

This good enough or should I aim to get an external?

I see kucingfight is selling various Creative cards, is it ok to get the lowest end one? Which would you guys recommend?

[2ndBuLK] OEM Creative X-FI ELITE PRO. TOP OF THE LINE
[6th WTBULK]OEM Creative SB046A XtremeGamer Fatal1ty
[WTBulk] OEM Creative Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
[WTBulk] OEM Creative Xtreme Music 0460
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The best choice would be the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite PRO for RM330 from kucingfight wink.gif.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ May 18 2010, 06:36 PM)
The best choice would be the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite PRO for RM330 from kucingfight wink.gif.
What are the reasons mate?

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One of the higher-end from Creative. Made for gaming. Good price.

I bought the XtremeMusic at RM 400 back in 2005 when it first came out.

But now, I am liking my Asus Xonar Essence.

Almost want to say Creative s#@ks, but I am sure I will get bombarded with hate mails. tongue.gif

Creative is good for gaming, but if you want an all-rounder, consider the Asus line of sound cards.

I am surprised at how well the Essence performs in gaming. Creative still wins hands-down, but if you are not a hardcore gamer, then the Essence is good enough for gaming, and ultimate in music. lust.gif
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oh maiii~ wub.gif

finally i found an ultimate way to maximize the vibration!

just lower everything on your EQ below 50% and let Sub @ 100%. by that, its mean the overall volume will be reduce by half without affecting your Bass and Subwoofer. rclxms.gif

if before this you only use till 20% (based on Windows Volume Level), but now you can use at 40% for 20% but the bass is still at 40% biggrin.gif
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Dude, that was in my screenshot that I posted some time back.

You didn't see?
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Dude, that was in my screenshot that I posted some time back.

You didn't see?
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you mean the EQ that comes with Kave?

both CounterStrike and MW2 have vibration (TS mentioned they have no vibration if i am not mistaken)
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Oh, you meant the EQ on the Kave.

I meant the EQ on the Creative Launcher.
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Oh, you meant the EQ on the Kave.

I meant the EQ on the Creative Launcher.
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yep. i did meant about EQ that comes with Kave.

and i don't disturb the EQ in the Creative Luncher though, just disable them. scared they will disturb original sound produced.. sweat.gif
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Errr... isn't the reason why you want a gaming sound card is to process the sound produce? The EQ for Creative Launcher is one of the things that you must configure, otherwise, you will not be able to bring out the best of the sound.

Gaming sound and movie sound requires processing. They are digital.

On the other hand, if you are talking about music, then you DO NOT want to process the sound. If that is the case, Creative sound cards not NOT the ones you should be choosing.

Asus Xonar Essence!!!

Asus should give me money for promoting their products so much! nod.gif
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Errr... isn't the reason why you want a gaming sound card is to process the sound produce? The EQ for Creative Launcher is one of the things that you must configure, otherwise, you will not be able to bring out the best of the sound.

Gaming sound and movie sound requires processing. They are digital.

On the other hand, if you are talking about music, then you DO NOT want to process the sound. If that is the case, Creative sound cards not NOT the ones you should be choosing.

Asus Xonar Essence!!!

Asus should give me money for promoting their products so much!  nod.gif
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no no. my last post is referring to songs, not games and movie.

for sure i turn on everything when gaming and movie biggrin.gif

anyway, how much is Asus Xonar Essence? you coupled it with Kave too? guess i will have two external soundcard later... Asus Xonar Essence is not external, isn't it?

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No, not external. Internal PCI-E.

Bought it at RM 530. Coupled it with Audio Technica ATH-M30. Still have yet to try the Kave with it.
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[*]Did some research, static noise was created by PC Beep, mute it at Windows Sound control panel and the noise is gone. Kave works like a charm now


First of all you have my respect on this detailed review,good job did it like a PRO, ok , i have one pair of this headset, why im am writing to you is because i'm still trying to get rid of the "static noise" or background noise i constantly hear (like a seashell u have near your ear) , the backgroud / static noise gets louder at higher volumes (50% + /especialy from headphones on wire equalizer) . I tryed them on my friends computers , the noise its still there. I must mention that neither me or my friends got a sound card, we used just the on board ones, but its annoying. My specs: MB Abit P35 Pro ICH9R Chipset /On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC / Realtek

Can u plz tell me,and other that may have this isue where u found answer to this problem , or what sound u deactivated/muted from sound card that now the headphone "works like a charm now". From a gamer to another gamer Respect.

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QUOTE(BUnicutZza @ May 19 2010, 05:11 PM)
First of all you have my respect on this detailed review,good job did it like a PRO, ok , i have one pair of this headset, why im am writing to you is because i'm still trying to get rid of  the "static noise" or background noise i constantly hear (like a seashell u have near your ear) , the backgroud / static noise gets louder at higher volumes (50% + /especialy from headphones on wire equalizer) . I tryed them on my friends computers , the noise its still there. I must mention that neither me or my friends got a sound card, we used just the on board ones, but its annoying. My specs: MB Abit P35 Pro ICH9R Chipset /On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC / Realtek

Can u plz tell me,and other that may have this isue where u found answer to this problem , or what sound u deactivated/muted from sound card that now the headphone "works like a charm now". From a gamer to another gamer Respect.
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Thanks for the compliments.

In respect to your question, I've answered a similar question to Mr.Docter, thus:
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@ BUnicutZza:

if you can't find the setting as Silverfire shown, check the update here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry33842969
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Thanks for the compliments.

In respect to your question, I've answered a similar question to Mr.Docter, thus:
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Ok , so donne that , and no result on the static/ background noise . So i emailed Roccat Suport team my isue, and its like this:

2 Moths ago i purchased Roccat Kave headphones, and sice then im trying to solve my isue with the staic noise/ background noise/ white noise (like u constantly have a seashell near youre ears). Its becoming anoying and i dont use them enymore. I tryed them on my friends computers, same result (like me , my friends dont own a sound card). The noise gets louder when i increase the volume (from wire equalizer CENTE?FRONT/REAR) pass 30%+ volume (microphone on/off or unpluged from headset or motherboard does not unfluence the static annoying noise), how Im I supose to enjoy the product?. I can tell u that my "microfhone boost" from sound card options its always on +0% gain. Tryed dezinstaling the sound card driver and use the driver windows 7 provides me, same result. Respect to the tehnicians implicated in the project making them, Professional headphones, ill try and get some answers. My oppinion is the USB power cable needed for the headphones that resonates with the motherboard internal circuits and PC activities, because when i use my mouse (Roccat Kone/USB) or keyboard Keysonic KSK-8001 UEL/USB (when i hold down eny key )i can hear an electric sound , like the hisssing from old modems trying to connnect to the internet (not jokeing). Eny ideeas? should i send them in service? replace them ...
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Did you try using speakers again and putting the volume to full to see if you get the same effect? Could just be crosstalk from the motherboard.
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So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

Mr.Docter: Sorry man, didn't had time to respond to your PM. Had too much to do these days, with hospital, college and family.

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[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 02:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.

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BUnicutZza thanks for sharing your research. Hope you get it resolved. Am expecting mine in the next few days and hope it'll be ok.
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BUnicutZza thanks for sharing your research. Hope you get it resolved. Am expecting mine in the next few days and hope it'll be ok.
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Oo, Roccat comunity will have another elite gamer in the ranks, respect bryan. have one desire : share youre experience and sound quality of the headset with us, and tell us if the problem i have its just on my headset. 10x i'll PM u if u foget smile.gif

PS: Respect to Silverfire and others on this awesome forum, for replying in such sort notice and for cerebral responses smile.gif

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QUOTE(BUnicutZza @ May 19 2010, 07:42 PM)
PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.
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Sorry to hear that, I've no more ideas on how to solve your problem. notworthy.gif
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[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 07:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

Mr.Docter: Sorry man, didn't had time to respond to your PM. Had too much to do these days, with hospital, college and family.
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its okay my man smile.gif

thanks for the fast reply on that day laugh.gif


[quote=BUnicutZza,May 19 2010, 07:42 PM]
[quote=Silverfire,May 19 2010, 02:04 PM]
So you muted the PC Beep but you're still hearing the statics?

PC beep off = yep the sound is still there. momentary im using some stereo Phillips headphones SHM6103 model , excellent model smile.gif . @bryan No backgound noise from speakes on full volume . In my opinion and 2 months of online search is that these model of headphones use this USB cable to powerup the headset, and they are not EMI protected , or they are but the motherboard and PC circuit activities still manage to bypass and through that USB conection , u can hear the intern electric activity of youre PC (keyboard function/mouse/HDD activities), its my only answer to what its happening. Shame, hope they next product dont use and such an fault usb adapter just to power it, when u can use just the JACKS for stereo/5.1/7.1 surround sound.

Still waiting for an response from the Roccat Suport team.
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well you still lucky because have option to tweak that PC Beep Setting. mine don't.

so what should i do now? sad.gif

and may i know what is email address of Roccat Support Team?


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and may i know what is email address of Roccat Support Team?

I just logged in with my Roccat acount on the webpage , and used theyr suport form to tell them about my issue: " http://www.roccat.org/Support/Support/Support-Form/ " completed the form and sent it after tipeing the letters from confirmation code.

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First: How did you get Realtek X-Fi on your soundcard, Silverfire?

Second: For Roccat Support, call this number (03) 2711-3080 (if you are a Malaysian). On the same note, have you tried using other USB ports that are NOT from the motherboard? For example, try a USB hub that is powered from the wall plug, and not connected to the PC. And by the way, this is the EXACT same problem that I had when I first opened my Kave from the box (read my mini-review in this thread) but it went away after I plugged it into multiple items, including an AV Receiver, a PS3, a direct USB wall plug, a laptop, and a netbook. The static went away at the laptop, and never came back again.

Third: Tried the Kave on the Asus Xonar Essence. The sound... well... let's just say it's a gaming headphone and leave it at that.

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 20 2010, 09:25 AM)
Second: For Roccat Support, call this number (03) 2711-3080 (if you are a Malaysian). On the same note, have you tried using other USB ports that are NOT from the motherboard? For example, try a USB hub that is powered from the wall plug, and not connected to the PC. And by the way, this is the EXACT same problem that I had when I first opened my Kave from the box (read my mini-review in this thread) but it went away after I plugged it into multiple items, including an AV Receiver, a PS3, a direct USB wall plug, a laptop, and a netbook. The static went away at the laptop, and never came back again.
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means that Apuri is on top of my list.. biggrin.gif
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Hahahaha, oh yea ho. I forgot I can actually buy that to use for the Kave. Also good for cable management as well.

Gotta go Low Yat later.
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Hahahaha, oh yea ho. I forgot I can actually buy that to use for the Kave. Also good for cable management as well.

Gotta go Low Yat later.
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not to mention its looks cool! laugh.gif

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Can the desktop remote be taken out?
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Hey guys do you know if it's possible to have both onboard audio and an external sound card working at the same time?

I have the Kave connected at the back, and my speakers to my front panel, but the front panel is damn noisy. So was wondering if getting another sound card would be a good alternative.
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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ May 20 2010, 10:08 PM)
Well sumtime wanna bring collage n use.
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just bring all together. its not really heavy right. i think its just impossible to detach that thing from this headphone.
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Or, I still have a digital output jack free - possible to get a converter so I can plug in an analog jack?

It's an SPDIF out btw.

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Hey guys do you know if it's possible to have both onboard audio and an external sound card working at the same time?

I have the Kave connected at the back, and my speakers to my front panel, but the front panel is damn noisy. So was wondering if getting another sound card would be a good alternative.
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sound like not possible since you need to choose default device in Windows Sound Setting right?

no?
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Under Windows 7 you can choose your outputs, don't have to pick a device from what I can see. It's ok I don't plan to run both at the same time, it's solution so I can use headphones for gaming and speakers for everything else. But right now the static from my speakers are killing me.
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QUOTE(bryan @ May 21 2010, 12:00 AM)
Under Windows 7 you can choose your outputs, don't have to pick a device from what I can see. It's ok I don't plan to run both at the same time, it's solution so I can use headphones for gaming and speakers for everything else. But right now the static from my speakers are killing me.
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QFT. its force me to not using it anymore till i found extension of USB.

does it work with cheap USB connector? just for temporary..
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So an USB extension can actually eliminate the static?
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QFT. its force me to not using it anymore till i found extension of USB.

does it work with cheap USB connector? just for temporary..
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Actually mine is not a USB problem. There's no static at all from the back connectors where I have the Kave connected. It's just that my front panel, where I have my speakers connected, pick up a lot of interference.
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So an USB extension can actually eliminate the static?
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 20 2010, 09:25 AM)
Second: For Roccat Support, call this number (03) 2711-3080 (if you are a Malaysian). On the same note, have you tried using other USB ports that are NOT from the motherboard? For example, try a USB hub that is powered from the wall plug, and not connected to the PC. And by the way, this is the EXACT same problem that I had when I first opened my Kave from the box (read my mini-review in this thread) but it went away after I plugged it into multiple items, including an AV Receiver, a PS3, a direct USB wall plug, a laptop, and a netbook. The static went away at the laptop, and never came back again.
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nice review, man..
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A) Yes, you can have multiple sound cards in a computer. I have 3 internal sound cards installed. Terrer leh?

B) Yes, you can have both internal and external sound cards. When you plug in the external, the internal will be disable and all sound will be routed through the external (normally). If not, just choose from Control Panel.

C) No, you cannot detach the control panel from the Kave as it won't work without USB.

D) If back USB port got no problem, then you can try to use an extension USB cable if length is not enough, but I doubt it since the Kave cable is very long.

E) I cannot say for 100% certainty that a USB extension or hub will solve the static problem. I tried it on mine last time, didn't work. Maybe the electricity is dirty or something. Maybe a UPS? Wah, a UPS to power a headset. Siao sweat.gif

F) Silverfire, your built-in sound card, although from Realtek, it is using X-Fi technology? Has Creative opened their technology for sale to Realtek like they did to Auzentech?

G) Kave does not work with SP/DIF output unless you have a receiver that will decode the signals, like an AV receiver or an external decoder. SP/DIF literally means optical or coaxial, which are digital signals, so they don't work directly with 3.5mm stereo jacks, which are analog.
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Thanks Gundam am gonna go looking for a decently priced sound card today.
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@ GundamManiac;

be perfectly honest with me, if i ask you to compare the quality of Kave and Audio Technica that you used to reviewed few pages back, in term of gaming, how massive is the different?

and what is the price for Audio Technica ATH-M30 that you'd brought?

just curious. thank! laugh.gif


/i know we can't compare gaming headphone with audiophiles, but just to feed my curiosity.
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Bryan: internal sound card for gaming: Creative X-Fi series; for music and movie and occasional gaming: Asus Xonar Essence (but maybe a bit expensive).

Docter: In terms of gaming, Kave wins. With the correct settings, you get good reproduction of sounds with the Creative X-Fi. Since I only play L4D2 on my PC (not much of a gaming guy), I can say this. Sound of guns, good. High treble, yes. Low boomy bass that shakes your face, yes. Surround sound accuracy, excellent.

Compared to the Audio Technica ATH-M30 (which I bought at RM 230), the AT sounds more realistic. The guns sound more 'real'. Bass isn't as boomy but comfortable. Treble almost the same. But the one thing that it loses out, is the surround sound. Don't get me wrong, there is surround sound, and it's good using the Dolby Headphone technology, BUT it is NOT pinpoint accuracy. Because it is simulated surround and not real surround, you get a somewhat 'around there' sound as compared to the Kave's "25degrees to your left behind you!" accuracy. I can actually turn around and hit a zombie square in the face just by listening to the surround sound itself. As an added bonus, the Kave has a really good microphone too.

But in terms of music and movie... the Kave still has a very long way to go. But the only thing I can say is this: different breeds. You don't compare a Rottweiler with a Beagle. Both are dogs, but one is an attack dog while the one is a companion dog.

So the verdict: gaming - Kave wins. It's a lot more fun playing the game with the Kave than with the Audio Technica, especially when your face starts shaking.

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 21 2010, 03:02 PM)
Docter: In terms of gaming, Kave wins. With the correct settings, you get good reproduction of sounds with the Creative X-Fi. Since I only play L4D2 on my PC (not much of a gaming guy), I can say this. Sound of guns, good. High treble, yes. Low boomy bass that shakes your face, yes. Surround sound accuracy, excellent.

Compared to the Audio Technica ATH-M30 (which I bought at RM 230), the AT sounds more realistic. The guns sound more 'real'. Bass isn't as boomy but comfortable. Treble almost the same. But the one thing that it loses out, is the surround sound. Don't get me wrong, there is surround sound, and it's good using the Dolby Headphone technology, BUT it is NOT pinpoint accuracy. Because it is simulated surround and not real surround, you get a somewhat 'around there' sound as compared to the Kave's "25degrees to your left behind you!" accuracy. I can actually turn around and hit a zombie square in the face just by listening to the surround sound itself. As an added bonus, the Kave has a really good microphone too.

But in terms of music and movie... the Kave still has a very long way to go. But the only thing I can say is this: different breeds. You don't compare a Rottweiler with a Beagle. Both are dogs, but one is an attack dog while the one is a companion dog.

So the verdict: gaming - Kave wins. It's a lot more fun playing the game with the Kave than with the Audio Technica, especially when your face starts shaking.
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thank you very much for the comparison smile.gif

the surround of Kave is not just empty hype. its been proven personally when i did gaming in CS and MW2. like you'd mention, the precision is well defined, making the gaming experience better than ever laugh.gif

thanks for this again smile.gif
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That's the difference between virtual surround and REAL surround, people!

The money is well worth it!
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the static sound still doesn't vamoose with chepo usb hub..

if that sound doesn't disappear after using Apuri, i might sell my Kave.

wth, i am not expecting this kind or problem on 5 digit priced lappy's mobo shakehead.gif
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You might be able to get away with it - maybe the laptop's audio components are too close to something that's putting out a lot of EMI.
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yea bryan, hopefully so.. i really love this headphone.. sad.gif
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Seriously, I cannot understand why.

Seems like everyone is having that problem, and there's no solution to it.

But why did the static for my headphoen went away?

What was different?

Ok, let me try to retrace what I did. Maybe I can help you guys to find out what could be wrong.

1. Bought it, unpacked, connected to the CPU front USB port. Got static.

2. Connected to the CPU back USB port (direct to mobo). Got static.

3. Connected to PS3 USB port. Got static.

4. Connected to AV Receiver USB port (yea, my AV Receiver got a USB port for thumbdrives and iPod). Got static.

(1 - 4 was done at home)

5. Connected to the seller's laptop (on AC with battery plugged in). No static.

6. Connected to my Asus Netbook (on battery). No static.

7. Connected to seller desktop (direct mobo). No static.

(5 - 7 is done at Low Yat Plaza)

8. Connected to my CPU front USB port. No static.

9. Connected to my CPU back USB port. No static.

(8 - 9 is done at home, till now).

Until today, with 3 sound cards, 3 HDDs, 1 Graphic card, 1 speaker system, 1 Audio Technica Headphone, and 7 other items sharing the mobo's USB ports, I have not heard of the static again. Not even a single beep, not even when I turn the volume up, not when I switch sound cards (both in Windows and plugging the headphone to different sound cards). Throughout the time from I have the static till the static is gone, I have changed NO settings in Windows, not added any hardware or software, nothing. Absolutely nothing. It was static, static, static, no static.

I think I'm gonna need to call Dr. House for this diagnostic.
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lol finally found it! the <insert curse here> that causing static sound is jack for mic! ... sweat.gif

now the static sound is totally gone! and my ears feels like.. new! biggrin.gif

/still don't want to think how i want to use my mic. want to enjoy first laugh.gif
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Haaaahh?????

That can't be true, right?

I am using my mic, connected to the same sound card.

Plus, when I connected the Kave to my PS3 and AV Receiver, the mic wasn't connected.
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no seriously. i am @100% Windows Sound but static sound anymore. previously, @60%, the static sound already killing me ears.

/@100% without any .mp3 played, if you wondered.

EDIT : bolding the word seriously to express my serious-ness! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ May 20 2010, 09:25 AM)
First: How did you get Realtek X-Fi on your soundcard, Silverfire?
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I'm using a modded Realtek driver which changes the sound filter, resulting in better output and gives the capability for a Realtek HDA to be tweaked with Creative Equalizer.

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I see!!!!

No wonder mine sounded so bad.

And here I thought I know a lot about sound cards.

Paiseh, paiseh. sweat.gif
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sorry for noob question. this kave only can use with desktop? cam it be use with laptop? because my laptop only got line in (green) and mic (pink) only.
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QUOTE(creative zn @ May 24 2010, 07:20 PM)
sorry for noob question. this kave only can use with desktop? cam it be use with laptop? because my laptop only got line in (green) and mic (pink) only.
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yes, but you need to buy an external soundcard to maximize its 5.1 surround function.
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Otherwise if you just connect the green output, you will only get stereo.


Added on June 2, 2010, 10:07 amLet's resurrect this thread!!!

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Hi all, BUnicutZza did you solve your static sound problem?I have the same issue.

I dont have the pc beep settings to turn it off.

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Oh yea.

Were you guys able to solve the static problem?
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i solve my static sound by muting my microphone with the mute mic button on Kave amplifier.

Remove Kave Microphone and Mute microphone. and then check if the static is cleared. and remember to check if any playback mic are enable that causing this.
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well dr.noob, you can try my way above smile.gif
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well dr.noob, you can try my way above smile.gif
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Hi again, thx for the replys.It does that static sound or sea shell effect, whatever, and i just need the usb cable pluged to hear it.

I email roccat support twice and they were very fast with the response, in the end they said to RMA it. cool.gif
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Uhhh i dun like heard any static hissing my ears..i understand how it feels when it comes into 100% concentration sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Hiruka @ Jun 4 2010, 09:08 AM)
Uhhh i dun like heard any static hissing my ears..i understand how it feels when it comes into 100% concentration sweat.gif
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For example, if im listening to music and the volume its like 5/10% its annoying to hear that low frequency sound.

With higher sound volume(+10%) its a perfect kave.
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Have you guys tried a voltage regulator?

It could be dirty electricity.
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QUOTE(dr.noob @ Jun 4 2010, 05:22 PM)
For example, if im listening to music and the volume its like 5/10% its annoying to hear that low frequency sound.

With higher sound volume(+10%) its a perfect kave.
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Have you tried muting the mic...? I noticed if I don't, any sound like the fan spinning sound etc could be heard.
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Have you tried muting the mic...? I noticed if I don't, any sound like the fan spinning sound etc could be heard.
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i just need to plug the usb(jacks and mic not in the soundcard) to listen the weird sound, it think its an electric problem in the remote control.But is sounds like the mic while testing.

today i will send it to rma, ill let you know the news after that.

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Hi. I just bought Roccat Kave today, and i can't use the desktop remote. Do i need to install the cd provided to use the remote? I tried to install the cd but the autorun cannot be played.
Somehow, when the mic mute button is pressed, the led at the mic did change from no led to blue led, and the power led is on, but other button cannot be played.
Thanks.
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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Jun 9 2010, 05:06 AM)
Hi. I just bought Roccat Kave today, and i can't use the desktop remote. Do i need to install the cd provided to use the remote? I tried to install the cd but the autorun cannot be played.
Somehow, when the mic mute button is pressed, the led at the mic did change from no led to blue led, and the power led is on, but other button cannot be played.
Thanks.
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hi, you dont need the cd for anything.

If you cant increase the volume in the remote control send to RMA.

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I tried restart the computer, and now the remote works.

But there is no vibration.

I tried changing the eq on the remote, but nothing happens.
Like when i adjust the front speaker to 0%, the headphone mute, and when i change it to 100%, the sound is max.
But when i change the centre, rear, and subs, nothing happen.

I tried opening two games simultaneously (ragnarok and cs), the result is:
Cs can be muted when i adjust the front speaker to 0%, and ragnarok can be muted when i adjust the centre speaker to 0%. Changing rear and subs had no effect.

Is my eq on computer wrong? I set it to 5.1 already.
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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Jun 9 2010, 05:56 AM)
I tried restart the computer, and now the remote works.

But there is no vibration.

I tried changing the eq on the remote, but nothing happens.
Like when i adjust the front speaker to 0%, the headphone mute, and when i change it to 100%, the sound is max.
But when i change the centre, rear, and subs, nothing happen.

I tried opening two games simultaneously (ragnarok and cs), the result is:
Cs can be muted when i adjust the front speaker to 0%, and ragnarok can be muted when i adjust the centre speaker to 0%. Changing rear and subs had no effect.

Is my eq on computer wrong? I set it to 5.1 already.
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I use creative titanium soundcard and i have vibration in windows xp32 in game mode and entertainment but in w7 it only works in entertainment.

I have to set bass to +50/200hz in the console launcher and +15db for bass, with realtek onboard sound i have no vibration.

i dont use eq.

I must say the vibration thing is very nice to feel it in my ears.

gl with that

another thing, do you feel any kind of sound when you are not listening to music?i hear the sea shell effect, annoying noise, going to RMA and see what happens.

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So far i didnt hear anything wrong . How to check if there's something wrong ? It will sound when playing music or when default ?
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So far i didnt hear anything wrong . How to check if there's something wrong ? It will sound when playing music or when default ?
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i can hear zzzzzzzzzzz/shhhhhhhhh with mute.
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Nemesis, try out the settings in the previous few pages in this thread, especially if you are using Creative sound cards.

I had the no vibration problem in the beginning too, but now it works super.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Jun 9 2010, 11:05 PM)
Nemesis, try out the settings in the previous few pages in this thread, especially if you are using Creative sound cards.

I had the no vibration problem in the beginning too, but now it works super.
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That's the problem. I really don't know much on how to set the setting, and i only use onboard sound cards.
I think i didn't set my pc setting to 5.1 yet, because when i adjust the eq on the remote desktop, only changing front panel got changes. The other centre, rear and subs did't change my output sound.

Any idea on how to change it to 5.1 system?
Thanks.
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Ok, back to basic:

1. What brand is your onboard soundcard?

2. How many of the 3 3.5mm stereo jacks did you connect to the sound card?

Remember, the Kave is very dependent on your sound card to perform optimally. It's not like other headphones that just plugs and play.

And when testing, there is no need for you to run 2 games at the same time.
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Em, i don't know what brand of soundcard mine is, but my mobo is ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO brand.

How to check my soundcard brand?

And all connect all 3 jacks and 1 mic jack.
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Should be a Realtek sound card. Regardless of how bad the sound is, it should still be able to produce surround sound.

Can you test if the rear speakers are working? Connect the second and third 3.5mm jacks (Orange and Black) to the front channel output (Green) and see got sound or not.
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QUOTE(GundamManiac @ Jun 10 2010, 06:35 PM)
Should be a Realtek sound card. Regardless of how bad the sound is, it should still be able to produce surround sound.

Can you test if the rear speakers are working? Connect the second and third 3.5mm jacks (Orange and Black) to the front channel output (Green) and see got sound or not.
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Yes got sound when connect the second and third 3.5mm jacks (Orange and Black) to the mobo channel output (Green). But no sound when connect the jack to their corresponding colour.
Is that mean i didn't set it to 5.1 yet?
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Set it to 5.1 and see if it works wink.gif. By the way Green is for front, while the black is the sub and orange the rear speakers if I'm not mistaken.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jun 10 2010, 08:26 PM)
Set it to 5.1 and see if it works wink.gif. By the way Green is for front, while the black is the sub and orange the rear speakers if I'm not mistaken.
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Is the setup for 5.1 like this?

control panel>>hardware and sound>>sound>>playback>>speaker>>configure>>5.1 surround
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Does it work now?


Added on June 11, 2010, 8:01 amAnd for the record:

Green = Front Left and right
Black = Rear left and right
Orange = Center and sub

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No, it didn't work. When i unplug the green jack, no sound is produced. Is that mean it still in 2.1 mode?

Luckily it still produces sound, i can burn in the kave while trying to configure it. tongue.gif

Is there any setting i didn't change yet? Actually i bought 5.1 speaker abt 2 weeks ago, and still can't put it to 5.1. Really don't know how to set sound system in pc lol rclxub.gif
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Ok, your Windows has been configured to 5.1

Your speakers are 5.1

Now it is the source that you need to check.

Forget about the Kave for the moment. It's easier to check with your 5.1 speakers.

Just play a game with 5.1 surround sound and see whether your rear channels got sound or not. If you want to try movies, make sure you use a player that can output 5.1, like KM Player or VLC.
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I just tried using the demo in the kave cd, and everything is perfect! Vibrations are there, and so does the 5.1 system. It seems like my music are the problems, lol.

Thanks for the help. Really appreciated it.

Btw, do you have any sample music that has 5.1 surround sound? I didn't feel any vibrations when playing music. Thanks.
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Could it be the player u are using?
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 12 2010, 12:07 AM)
Could it be the player u are using?
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I'm using foobar2000 when playing music, and vlc player for movies.
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Got my KAVE a few days ago, wanna share my experience tweaking it with my X-Fi Titanium PCI soundcard, hopes it helps some ppl on the hisisng sound.

My X-Fi has a FlexiJack connected (Black coloured) which could be set to become either as a Line-In or Microphone. When I set it to Microphone mode, I could start hearing the hissing, even with the Mic turned off (pressing the Mute Mic button at the KAVE desktop controller). Set to Line-In and the hissing is gone! laugh.gif But the hissing will come back when I needed to use the Mic. doh.gif

Some of you if you could hear the surrounding sound after the Mic is turned on, that's probably because your default playback devices is set to output what the Microphone has taken in.
Disable it via Sounds -> Playback -> Speakers -> Properties -> Levels, mute the Mic. That should stop the sound of the Microphone.

Yes normal music only have 2 channels (stereo) output, if using KAVE you'll only hear the sound from the two Front speakers. Unless you use your sound card/playback software to make it to a 5.1 output.

So far, had no problem with the bass/vibration unit, sounds getting better after 3 days burn in with Subwoofer volume turned off (scare the vibration unit cannot tahan overnight burn in rclxub.gif )

But the greatest downside for me is still the weight! Having headache after 1hr+ of using.. icon_question.gif I think the 3 cushions on the head are too thin and hard..for me only the middle one touch my head (yes I did tried to put the head band a little bit forward but it's still the same! Maybe my head is too sharp!?)

Please correct me if I said anything stupid~ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Jun 11 2010, 10:08 PM)
I just tried using the demo in the kave cd, and everything is perfect! Vibrations are there, and so does the 5.1 system. It seems like my music are the problems, lol.

Thanks for the help. Really appreciated it.

Btw, do you have any sample music that has 5.1 surround sound? I didn't feel any vibrations when playing music. Thanks.
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Normally you don't get any vibrations from music, unless you turn it up really loud, or has the ability to tune your equalizer. My suggestions to you is to get a cheap but reasonable sound card like the Creative. Your experience will be a ten times better, I promise you that.

As for 5.1 music, I think I actually have one CD encoded in DTS (note I said CD, and not DVD). I didn't really bother listening to it after buying it during the AV show. I do that some times. Ok, all the times. However, the best way to test surround music is through concert. Try out David Foster and Friends' Hit Man. Get the blu-ray if you have the player. Your next best concert would be Celine Dion's Live In Vegas, followed very closely by Michael Jackson's This Is It. But for surround effect, I would go with MJ first.

By the way, if you do want to try playing surround music (CD), I can pass my CD to you. If I can find it. I have no idea where it is. Alternatively, you can look for one of these CD in any Victoria Music stores. They sell them. My advise? Wait for the AV Show this 23 - 25 July. And AV stands for Audio Visual, not Adult Video in case you want to be funny.


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QUOTE(chancsy @ Jun 12 2010, 12:34 AM)
Got my KAVE a few days ago, wanna share my experience tweaking it with my X-Fi Titanium PCI soundcard, hopes it helps some ppl on the hisisng sound.

My X-Fi has a FlexiJack connected (Black coloured) which could be set to become either as a Line-In or Microphone. When I set it to Microphone mode, I could start hearing the hissing, even with the Mic turned off (pressing the Mute Mic button at the KAVE desktop controller). Set to Line-In and the hissing is gone!  laugh.gif  But the hissing will come back when I needed to use the Mic.  doh.gif

Some of you if you could hear the surrounding sound after the Mic is turned on, that's probably because your default playback devices is set to output what the Microphone has taken in.
Disable it via Sounds -> Playback -> Speakers -> Properties -> Levels, mute the Mic. That should stop the sound of the Microphone.

Yes normal music only have 2 channels (stereo) output, if using KAVE you'll only hear the sound from the two Front speakers. Unless you use your sound card/playback software to make it to a 5.1 output.

So far, had no problem with the bass/vibration unit, sounds getting better after 3 days burn in with Subwoofer volume turned off (scare the vibration unit cannot tahan overnight burn in  rclxub.gif )

But the greatest downside for me is still the weight! Having headache after 1hr+ of using.. icon_question.gif  I think the 3 cushions on the head are too thin and hard..for me only the middle one touch my head (yes I did tried to put the head band a little bit forward but it's still the same! Maybe my head is too sharp!?)

Please correct me if I said anything stupid~ tongue.gif
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Suppose you will get used to the weight. It was heavy for me in the beginning too, gets a headache after an hour. Now I can play with that thing on for 3 hours without having to take it off at all. But I believe the problem is not to shift the headphone forward, but to loosen it up a bit. You won't be dancing around with that thing, so don't worry that it will drop off your head.

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Suppose you will get used to the weight. It was heavy for me in the beginning too, gets a headache after an hour. Now I can play with that thing on for 3 hours without having to take it off at all. But I believe the problem is not to shift the headphone forward, but to loosen it up a bit. You won't be dancing around with that thing, so don't worry that it will drop off your head.]
I'm current using the 6th step for the length of the headband, putting it to five makes the earcups squeezing my head so hard(headache comes faster) and putting it to seven makes the headphone's weight focus on the my head through 2 of the cushions only since the earcups no more holding as tightly as step 6..but haven try one side 6 one side 7..lol doh.gif

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Lately I am getting some headaches with the headphone too. Or with any headphones for that matter.

I want to feel the vibrations of the Kave, but I always try to keep the volume as low as possible, and now it is at 18% (Windows) so I barely feel the vibration, especially after I got used to it shaking my face.


Added on June 17, 2010, 11:24 amHmmm, post dead again.

Defibrilator! We need a crash cart in here!

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Is the setup for 5.1 like this?

control panel>>hardware and sound>>sound>>playback>>speaker>>configure>>5.1 surround
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What do you mean by 'sub' ?
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4 Strings - Catch A Fall

4 Strings - Catch A fall by Armin Van Buuren. Cool song wink.gif. Make sure to turn the bass up and the volume as well.

DJ Ton TB - Dream Machine ( First State Remix )

My other favorite, remember to turn the bass and volume up or it won't sound good.
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guys the mic, if its on the light is on or the other way around?

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jun 28 2010, 01:58 PM)
guys the mic, if its on the light is on or the other way around?

btw hello all, just got my kave from a forumer here. + X-Fi platinum
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i guess if the light on..then the mic is on mute icon_rolleyes.gif
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got problem with Kova,

The problem is as per below:
1) Light effect & color always turn to default whenever i turn on the PC,tht's means i had to switch my favorite light effect & color every time i on my PC
2) Sometimes i need to plug out n plug in again else the mouse won't work at all
3)The mouse cause my windows startup longer then usual, this problem does not occur when i use my previous mouse ,Logitech G9 and i'm using it right now and there is no such problem after i switch it from Roccat Kova

anyone face this problem before?

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QUOTE(nazeeman @ Jun 29 2010, 04:24 PM)
i guess if the light on..then the mic is on mute  icon_rolleyes.gif
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tq amuk, i tot something was wrong. they better make it the other way around smile.gif
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jun 26 2010, 10:20 PM)
4 Strings - Catch A Fall

4 Strings - Catch A fall by Armin Van Buuren. Cool song wink.gif. Make sure to turn the bass up and the volume as well.

DJ Ton TB - Dream Machine ( First State Remix )

My other favorite, remember to turn the bass and volume up or it won't sound good.
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More songs biggrin.gif.

Elements of Life - DJ Tiesto

And

Imagine - Armin Van Buuren

Above in the quote is the two previous song I have uploaded.
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just got the kave today...quite pricey at rm330 ...hopefully it is worth it..the only bug i get from the demo unit i hear today is some lose part sound coming from the left side when there is a loud vibration
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I think this is well worth the money. Every detail of sound is nicely separated and extremely clear. Even the songs you listen sounds different when you listen with these.
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help = =
my problem like this

this setting will got some "sa~~~~~~~" sound roght side
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this setting dint have any "sa........" sound
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when ichange to game mode that noise come agian
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i move down all chanel and close all mp3 that noise alsocome out from right
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is that my kave problem ???
just get on saturday


Added on July 27, 2010, 1:56 amjust plug that usb to my pc also so "sa......"
i dint plug any audio jack just usb

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bad news....my Kave just death....
d lights will not turn on no matter how many times i plug n unplug...
tested on 3 PCs and still d same result.... cry.gif
guess will consider Audio Technica ATH-M30 as i'm into music and movies more...
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Kave so many problems?

I also using Kave but havent encounter any problems yet. Hope i wont in the future
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QUOTE(ChcGamer @ Aug 5 2010, 12:55 PM)
Kave so many problems?

I also using Kave but havent encounter any problems yet. Hope i wont in the future
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I used it nearly for 4 months, recently d Blue LED light on the mic frequently on and off.
I need to plug in and out then it only will works.but sometimes this method is not workable...then i put it aside for 1 whole day. Next day i try my luck again,it works again. And now it DIE again. WTF vmad.gif

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It just lights up by itself? Does it also mute at the same time?
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QUOTE(bryan @ Aug 9 2010, 09:32 AM)
It just lights up by itself? Does it also mute at the same time?
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when d pc power on d light in the controller and mic hole on the headphone cup will lights up by itself --> this shows it is normal
but suddenly it will off by itself when u r using it half way thru sweat.gif
d light in the controller still on but the mic hole on the headphone cup just goes off.
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Maybe the remote unit has a problem; I'd claim warranty ASAP.
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QUOTE(bryan @ Aug 9 2010, 11:07 AM)
Maybe the remote unit has a problem; I'd claim warranty ASAP.
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i have no idea which part is faulty but i just send d unit back 2 d seller...
wonder how long it will takes... doh.gif
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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Aug 9 2010, 11:24 AM)
i have no idea which part is faulty but i just send d unit back 2 d seller...
wonder how long it will takes...  doh.gif
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If local distri got stock should be around 1-2 weeks. Now they short of stock, waiting next shipment for KAVE sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Aug 10 2010, 11:52 PM)
If local distri got stock should be around 1-2 weeks. Now they short of stock, waiting next shipment for KAVE  sweat.gif
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just the distri's tech guy called me up regarding my kave's issue...he said mine kave working fine @ his place >.<
he suspect USB not enuf power....and i do agree wit he in certain areas.coz to power up 4 speaker u need a constant power...
and i got ask him possible to change a new kave 4 me,he said if my kave is faulty then they will change a new for me but...i don think they can find a problem wit my kave ... doh.gif

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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Aug 11 2010, 05:44 PM)
just the distri's tech guy called me up regarding my kave's issue...he said mine kave working fine @ his place >.<
he suspect USB not enuf power....and i do agree wit he in certain areas.coz to power up 4 speaker u need a constant power...
and i got ask him possible to change a new kave 4 me,he said if my kave is faulty then they will change a new for me but...i don think they can find a problem wit my kave ...  doh.gif
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Same case with "MKSII" unit.......... sweat.gif

Yesterday call me said they test also ok rclxub.gif

They said must plug behind CPU, dun use front panel due to lack of power for both USB and audio jack

I ask they plug where, they tested on laptop no problem. So I ask test with CPU with 5.1 sound system, they only got the testing unit back on Monday next week

So MR "MKSII" hv to wait another week........ notworthy.gif



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QUOTE(lingloong @ Aug 12 2010, 07:52 PM)
Same case with "MKSII" unit..........  sweat.gif

Yesterday call me said they test also ok  rclxub.gif

They said must plug behind CPU, dun use front panel due to lack of power for both USB and audio jack

I ask they plug where, they tested on laptop no problem. So I ask test with CPU with 5.1 sound system, they only got the testing unit back on Monday next week

So MR "MKSII" hv to wait another week........  notworthy.gif

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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
same answer from them also....
but my problem is i use back panel USB... sweat.gif
anyway,my last bet is get a Apuri...AND if the same problem still happen...then BYE BYE ROCCAT,just like Razer n Creative (got banned)
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QUOTE(BladeRider88 @ Aug 12 2010, 10:29 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
same answer from them also....
but my problem is i use back panel USB... sweat.gif
anyway,my last bet is get a Apuri...AND if the same problem still happen...then BYE BYE ROCCAT,just like Razer n Creative (got banned)
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Maybe they test with laptop 2.1 ur case, USB power "kuat" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Aug 12 2010, 07:52 PM)
Same case with "MKSII" unit..........  sweat.gif

Yesterday call me said they test also ok  rclxub.gif

They said must plug behind CPU, dun use front panel due to lack of power for both USB and audio jack

I ask they plug where, they tested on laptop no problem. So I ask test with CPU with 5.1 sound system, they only got the testing unit back on Monday next week

So MR "MKSII" hv to wait another week........  notworthy.gif

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next week ??
cry.gif

i use behind cpu USB port la.....

my kave i just plug USB dint plug any audio jack also got "za....."
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QUOTE(MKSII @ Aug 13 2010, 12:41 AM)
next week ??
cry.gif

i use behind cpu USB  port la.....

my kave i just plug USB dint plug any audio jack also got "za....."
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dude...we are on the same ship... doh.gif
chill...just pray hard...


Added on August 13, 2010, 12:52 am
QUOTE(lingloong @ Aug 13 2010, 12:14 AM)
Maybe they test with laptop 2.1 ur case, USB power "kuat"  laugh.gif
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haha...luckily my mobo don have USB 3.0..else they sure kena shoot till gao gao...

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QUOTE(MKSII @ Aug 13 2010, 12:41 AM)
next week ??
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i use behind cpu USB  port la.....

my kave i just plug USB dint plug any audio jack also got "za....."
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Wait them test with 5.1 system. They will do postage direct to u for replacement if got/or no problem.....

I also rclxub.gif rclxub.gif They said no problem sweat.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Aug 13 2010, 01:33 AM)
Wait them test with 5.1 system. They will do postage direct to u for replacement if got/or no problem.....

I also  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif They said no problem  sweat.gif  doh.gif

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QUOTE(MKSII @ Aug 13 2010, 02:50 AM)
o yeah
new rep;acement  unsure.gif
hm....
just wait
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Visit their website, look for the support link, then fill in the particulars and your problem, once completed, wait for a reply. You should get it in a day or two.
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if i use Roccat Kave from logitech z2300 which is a 2.1,will i still have the 5.1 effect?
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hi guys,

planning to buy Roccat Kave for its true 5.1 surround sound. If compared to G35, which one has better surround sound quality?

and 1 more thing, can i buy this headset at lowyat, is it available there?do i need to order from any shop first or just walk in?

sorry very noob regarding this headphone thingy sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hidz7 @ Sep 9 2010, 12:18 PM)
hi guys,

planning to buy Roccat Kave for its true 5.1 surround sound. If compared to G35, which one has better surround sound quality?

and 1 more thing, can i buy this headset at lowyat, is it available there?do i need to order from any shop first or just walk in?

sorry very noob regarding this headphone thingy sweat.gif
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Definitely better than G35 for surround quality. Yes, you can get it in Low Yat Plaza shop lots. They have ready stocks there.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Sep 9 2010, 12:45 PM)
Definitely better than G35 for surround quality. Yes, you can get it in Low Yat Plaza shop lots. They have ready stocks there.
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glad to know that it is better than G35. biggrin.gif

I have read somewhere that G35 is better than Razer Megalodon, so since surround sound quality of

Roccat Kave is better than both of them, I will just go for Roccat, save money somemore.

Probably next week will go to lowyat, will be joining u guys soon. Thanks for the response icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hidz7 @ Sep 9 2010, 12:18 PM)
hi guys,

planning to buy Roccat Kave for its true 5.1 surround sound. If compared to G35, which one has better surround sound quality?

and 1 more thing, can i buy this headset at lowyat, is it available there?do i need to order from any shop first or just walk in?

sorry very noob regarding this headphone thingy sweat.gif
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Try looking for it from Cex / Lingloong / Moderno instead. You might have a better chance of getting some discount.
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i myself just ordered it from lingloong. Will be getting my set after hari raya. Was in the same predicament as you were between g35 and the kave. But went for kave in the end. I was really keen to G35 as i already have a few collection of G's in my posession
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Sep 9 2010, 04:54 PM)
i myself just ordered it from lingloong. Will be getting my set after hari raya. Was in the same predicament as you were between g35 and the kave. But went for kave in the end. I was really keen to G35 as i already have a few collection of G's in my posession
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Great, another Kave User laugh.gif.

One thing to keep in mind is that, it's a pretty heavy thing, so if you have the length set wrongly, you might experience discomfort. You'll soon get use to the weight though nod.gif. It's a great headset, especially when paired with a great sound card brows.gif.

Ahh, if you hear any buzzing sound, and you're using Windows 7, just head to the Sound page in Control Panel and disable the +20dB increase for the microphone, it should stop the buzzing. Don't know if this works for Vista hmm.gif. Works for me most of the time nod.gif.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 9 2010, 07:22 PM)
Great, another Kave User  laugh.gif.

One thing to keep in mind is that, it's a pretty heavy thing, so if you have the length set wrongly, you might experience discomfort. You'll soon get use to the weight though nod.gif. It's a great headset, especially when paired with a great sound card brows.gif.

Ahh, if you hear any buzzing sound, and you're using Windows 7, just head to the Sound page in Control Panel and disable the +20dB increase for the microphone, it should stop the buzzing. Don't know if this works for Vista hmm.gif. Works for me most of the time nod.gif.
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Thing to get kave as well.
One question here, i would like to get kave and using it for my notebook.
As notebook only have normal 3.5mm port, so i have found CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER X-FI SURROUND 5.1 USB SOUND CARD.
Is it suitable for kave?
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Thing to get kave as well.
One question here, i would like to get kave and using it for my notebook.
As notebook only have normal 3.5mm port, so i have found CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER X-FI SURROUND 5.1 USB SOUND CARD.
Is it suitable for kave?
Thx smile.gif
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Should support without a problem, as long as there's four jacks hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(niunai @ Sep 9 2010, 09:07 PM)
Thing to get kave as well.
One question here, i would like to get kave and using it for my notebook.
As notebook only have normal 3.5mm port, so i have found CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER X-FI SURROUND 5.1 USB SOUND CARD.
Is it suitable for kave?
Thx smile.gif
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i try kave on my sis laptop which only have 3 jacks and it work xD but i sacrifice my mic cry.gif
i just change the 3 jacks into front, center & rear speaker laugh.gif

not much external 5.1 sound card out there...
personally i think it is a good choice if ur budget is around 200...
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wow..seeing all of you talking about Roccat Kave here, it's making me more excited to get one.

since this is the first good headphone im about to buy, i hope this is the right choice, because before this i just use cheap headphone tongue.gif
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just got my roccat kave from ling, hahaha currently testing it and so far so good

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Wanna ask, Does Roccat Kave or other gaming headset can compare with Sennheiser or Audio Technica?
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 14 2010, 01:54 AM)
Wanna ask, Does Roccat Kave or other gaming headset can compare with Sennheiser or Audio Technica?
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hi guys, new owner here...

mind i ask how to tune this headphone so that it performs at its best? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hidz7 @ Oct 27 2010, 03:44 PM)
hi guys, new owner here...

mind i ask how to tune this headphone so that it performs at its best? tongue.gif
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Tune? Have you done any burn in?
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Tune? Have you done any burn in?
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usually how long it takes for the burn in process to be effective?100 hours?

btw..plis add me to the owner list rclxms.gif

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hi to all roccat kave user, i just got my kave today. is anyone here using kave with creative xfi surround usb soundcard? im still headache with the setting coz i feel that the quality from my kave is so so while listening to flac file or 320 kbps mp3. thank you in advance who can share some setting on it...
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It is a gaming headset, what u expect?
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will kave still produce sound if usb is not plugged in? lets just say we are travelling and listening from mp3.
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will kave still produce sound if usb is not plugged in? lets just say we are travelling and listening from mp3.
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i think so, cause the usb is for the control dock and the led lights.
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QUOTE(genryu @ Nov 9 2010, 06:32 PM)
will kave still produce sound if usb is not plugged in? lets just say we are travelling and listening from mp3.
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QUOTE(Ken.shin- @ Nov 9 2010, 08:23 PM)
i think so, cause the usb is for the control dock and the led lights.
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Will not produce sound if USB not plugged. It is used to power the Kave's drivers.

Just got back my Kave today from RMA biggrin.gif
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i just know how to make hissing sound from mic disappear! the setting is actually within my external soundcard's driver! laugh.gif
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By disabling the +20dB mic boost? hmm.gif.
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I am Roccat user now, the major problem is head pain after too long usage >.>
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hu hu hu...
please take your precious time and waited..
after usin Roccat Kave,no regret.
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just have a look b4...
saw in Viewnet/The Hub rm339...the packaging is awesome...
the outer look of item is great..took a peek from its' clear window of the box

i think i should grab 1 since i got so many bunyi from my rig..hehehehe

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after disable the +20dB mic boost, still couldn't get rid of the hissing sound.

help anyone?
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how does vibration effect working? Any1?
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Hi!

Can anyone tell me what are inner dimensions (width, height) of ear cups on this headset (if someone could measure it, that'd be great smile.gif)? I'm thinking to buy it, but I don't want to buy it just to find out that my ears don't fit into. rolleyes.gif


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i love my kave. love it more after burn. really nice headphone plus good sound. recommended
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post Feb 5 2011, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(amdhunter @ Jan 7 2011, 02:48 PM)
how does vibration effect working? Any1?
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hmm.gif As far as I know, new batch's vibration drivers are better than the old ones. The vibrations are light, but its there and sufficient to give you a good feel. Certain audio frequencies will caused the drivers to vibrate.
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post Feb 8 2011, 08:00 PM

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seriously confused with the jacks. so total need to plug everything? im using a laptop and the only available jack for audio is a standard 3.5
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post Feb 8 2011, 08:37 PM

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hi, want to ask here,
if i want to grab kave, do i need external sound card because currently using on-board realtek soundcard.
really like the vibration feature and authentic 5.1 channel. biggrin.gif

and is that kave really heavy for long use?
i have a lots of gaming hour. so i heard quite some complaining about its weight.

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