MEng is not by option, is by qualification. You qualify only can choose to do or not. If grades not good enough, then no option of doing MEng.

Anyone have any methods of contacting the author of the said letter? I really want to know whether the son got employed or not.

By Ian Pashby,


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All,



See below for details but I am delighted to announce that UNMC was rated as EXCELLENT in the recent Malaysian University Ratings. No University was rated higher. Once again we have external endorsement of our quality, quality that depends upon the hard work of all our staff and all our students.





Ian Pashby





Nottingham awarded ‘excellent’ rating in Malaysia



The University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus (UNMC) has been rated ‘excellent’ in a national assessment of teaching and learning.



The Rating System for Malaysian Higher Education – known as Setara – ranks UNMC among the elite in its latest report. No other institution in the country received a higher rating.



By confirming both the quality of teaching and learning at UNMC, and the calibre of its graduates, it underlines the University’s place in the premier league of higher education in Malaysia.



Institutions winning ‘excellent’ or ‘Tier Five’ status receive extra incentives such as being able to enrol local and foreign government sponsored students, having access to government grants and determining their postgraduate student intake. They are also eligible for ‘research university’ status.



Professor Ian Pashby, Provost and Chief Executive Officer at UNMC, said “This latest accolade highlights again that the University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus provides only the highest quality of education provision and I am delighted with the outcome of this Setara exercise.



“It is through the hard work and commitment of our exceptional staff and the quality of our students that we can maintain our position as an elite provider of international education.”



Each of Malaysia’s 58 public and private universities were assessed by inspectors in five key areas: governance, physical and financial resources, talent, curriculum, and quality of graduates.



Higher Education Minister, Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin, announced the Setara outcome and added that Tier Five private institutions would also be exempted from certain provisions of the Private Higher Educational Institutions Act 1996.



This means institutions have flexibility and exemptions in applying for teaching permits for lecturers, can determine the salary of foreign lecturers, and have the freedom to set tuition fees.



Professor Stephen Doughty, Vice-Provost for Teaching and Learning at UNMC, said: “This latest accolade follows the recent conferment of Self-Accrediting Status on the University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus by the Ministry of Higher Education, which highlighted the quality of UNMC’s teaching and learning, and granted UNMC the power to approve and accredit its own degree programmes.”



UNMC was granted Self-Accrediting Status by the Malaysian government in May 2010.



This latest indicator of quality comes in a special year for the institution – 2010 is the tenth anniversary of the launch of the University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus. The 125-acre site, near the capital Kuala Lumpur, is now home to 3,600 students from more than 70 nations.



All UNMC students study in English, for University of Nottingham degrees that are taught and assessed in the same way as those in Nottingham UK.



Nottingham took a pioneering role in 2000 when it became the first British university to open a campus overseas, building on a strong and longstanding relationship with Malaysia. The parkland campus in Semenyih takes its design cues from University Park, Nottingham – with a signature lakeside building which echoes the UK’s Trent Building.







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University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus
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@Varia:It really depends on individual schedule..
Normally got one hour lunch break in between 9-5..
2 sems per year for undergrad prog,3 months++ summer break..
Minimum requirements please refer to the official website

@cybershaun:Single ensuite shared bathroom is like two rooms side by side and share toilet,basically you have a neighbour sharing toilet with u..
Quite good,got bigger space..
Single ensuite,I guess is the one you share toilets with 4 other people..
Smaller room..But totally single..Have a hallway in between..

@euphoriaa:The recognization is by Malaysia's BEM.
Actually,you all can attend some talks organized by our Director of Studies when you studying here,then you will fully understand it.
You still can get a job whether being recognised or not.
Taiwan certs are not being recognised,yet there are a handful of people got jobs.
Anyway,it still depends on yourself whether to get it or not.
The most important thing of being recognised is the Chartered Engineer status.You can just work and get the Chartered Engineer status,which recognised by BEM IINM.
Whereas for BEng,if you wanted to get that status,maybe you have to study one more year,e.g. MSc to get that,or to get some examinations..

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Added on July 19, 2010, 12:18 pmI saw in a government official website that some of our BEng programmes are recognized too but unfortunately not for Civil IINM.
I forgot how did I get to the link.
Perhaps the author's son was the earlier batch.
The recognization was valid from 2006 onwards if I am not wrong.
And more,I don't think we have extra one year for industrial training.
Plus,in most of the universities,I think at most is half a year of industrial training..
On top of that,if wanted to get Chartered Engineer,need to do internship during summer,around 12 weeks..

This post has been edited by rxy: Jul 19 2010, 12:18 PM

Well that goes without saying of course But you can opt to do it or not given the qualification is not an issue.

lol. A lot of ppl don't know about that ma. My dad still ask me to this very day:"the program you 'register' is 4 year or 3 year program ah?". Then I have to explain everything all over again. In the end I get a stoneface.jpg.

I don't get it either, till the engineers enlightened me about it. I find it pretty screwed up. You don't do 4th year, it won't be recognized here. Like wtf.

But is the 3 year programme recognized in the UK itself?

I think it is recognized..
All prog in Nott is being recognised by UK board,only Malaysian board does not..Kinda protective I guess?

In this forum, in another thread that sprung up after that news was announced, I remember someone mentioned that Malaysian board follow the UK board style.

But since you say that the UK board recognises the degree.. then which is correct?

Or rather, what is the difference between the above statements?

before i give my comments, just wondering whether do UK unis offer a foundation programme?

if not, this is because students in UK are doing A-levels which maybe accounted for the 4th year. correct me if i'm wrong.

some UK unis offer a foundation programme..
And A levels are Pre-U,so shouldn't be accounted for 4th year.

@entryman:I am not sure though but the Director of Studies told us that our degree is being recognised in UK,in fact most of the places in the world.

for scottish degree then yes, A levels/STPM can straight opt for 2nd year entry. (I know coz I apply edinburgh. Get but no money go ) But they study 4 years after 1st year also to get MEng.

Anyway in the Chartered Engineer (UK) wiki page, there got say they indeed require MEng, or an appropriate masters program upon completion of a bachelor's.

And "recognise" and "accredit" 2 kinda different thing, right? Accreditation is needed for consultation, right?

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Jul 19 2010, 02:05 PM

Yes.

That's the sad part, anywhere else recognised besides Malaysia (and a few others).

does that mean Malaysia is practicing a higher standard?

I don't think so lol. Somehow it felt like it's there to 'protect' local graduates.

Haha..Higher standard lol..
IINM they study less subjects per year and they have half a year internship..
I really doubt they have higher standard..

Then I really don't get it also. Why wouldn't they recognise a UK recognised programme?

Oh yea, as pointed above, accredited and recognised are different.

So, it's definitely not an issue about the recognition.

The only issue to consider is, is the 3 year programme accredited by the Board of Engineers in UK/Europe?

And even if the accreditation is present, how long has it been accredited? And were there any hot debates/challenges regarding the accreditation? Or is it widely accepted in the UK that the 3 year programme is of considerable standard?

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Added on July 19, 2010, 4:13 pmAnyway, this is the link to search the UK engineering council.

http://www.engc.org.uk/registration/acad/search.aspx


I placed a search, and Nottingham MALAYSIA has only 16 courses accredited by them.

Some are 3 years, and some are 4 years.

Go check em out.

This post has been edited by entryman: Jul 19 2010, 04:13 PM

actually, when will a company needs you to be registered with the board of engineers before working with them?

chemical engineers?civil?mechanical?

never heard about this issue with E & E engineers though.

And in the end if you find out that it's really a problem with Malaysia's council, then I say that's one more reason for you to expand overseas.