LOL. i wonder who's the person in charge. my fren(student) used to help in that kind of events.....

@elf-boy:np for that..guess the thread went down too much and I cant bump it and it's only my reply causing it couldnt be floating..

I notice that the Bradford agent is a one-time activation kind of thing only. After I install + validate + start surfing, I could completely disable Bradford and surf just by logging in with my student user name under both Windows and Linux. Hope it works for you too, though your mileage may vary.

eh... anyone here taking chemical eng environment?

I taking pure chem..
Got a few frens taking chem & environment eng..

how is the facilities you guys having there?? complete with wide range of analytical equipment?

analytical?
what do u mean by analytical?
do u mean undergrad level or postgrad level?
or u mean lab facilities??
i think our lab facilities not bad and quite well maintained.
if saying about analytical equipments,i thought of those chromatography machines in our pharm lab..
and we have another engineering research building..

i am talking about analytical equipment...
thought of taking chemical eng (enviro) here once i finnish my diploma....lol....

most of the sophisticated equipment r used by the PG rather than UG.. UG tends to operate normal equipments..

to answer u, yes, we do have some high tech equipments and still adding.. the modules tat utilizes the lab wont be using anything too high tech for UG..

thx for the info... btw what is UG and PG

UG=undergraduate(the bachelor degree)
PG=postgraduate(MSc,MEng,PhD)
I think that would be quite clear.
And I think after u finished ur diploma,u should be entering year 2?

MEng is still under UG..

anyway, anyone going to annual dinner tomolo? I'm..

It is to here my voyage for Jing Shen has reached..

Have you guys heard of him?

Just wanted to inform everyone here regarding the student association elections.

Usually, many of us don't vote, because we don't feel a need to. Because it doesn't matter who get the positions, cause it doesn't affect us.

But that's kind of selfish don't you say? By not involving ourselves, that leaves most of the votes to popularity, instead of real capabilities. Therefore, most of the time the voices of the minority are drowned out.

Anyway, enough of the long rant. I have a suggestion for SA President, his name is Jing Shen. Most likely you have heard of him. His facebook group is here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=76913709184

Within the group his experience and support are listed down. Determine for yourself if he is the right choice. If you think he his, by all means join the group, spread the word, and get your friends to vote together. Hope you don't throw away your right to vote.

@entryman:I am not sure whether SA president works or not.
Actually till now,I am not sure whether the whole SA thingy works or not.
Hmm,maybe can try telling if free tomorrow..
But SA president does really make me feel awkward.
Nothing to feel good about.
There's only one thing I could think of.
CV== ^^ and for personal.
Well,I hope that some people can tell me what did our SA president did.
Let's not say what this Mr.Jing Shen can do,but from the previous ones.
It's like the local elections isn't it?
Don't you think so?

@rxy

What you say is partly true.
The past presidents have done things before. It’s just that they don’t really publicize it (in fact, not at all) that it totally slipped my mind to find out what they were doing. Coz it didn’t really matter to me, nor affected me. But thinking back now, some of the things I was able to do in UNMC was directly and indirectly related to the jobs they have carried out. However, I forgot about most of them. I guess if Mr. Tan Jing Shen turned out to be President, that's one piece of advice I would give him, that would be to publicize his achievements more

There's one thing I can remember though, there was a big fuss about the arrangement of buses, and the timetables, I personally was there to see them working their ass off and being all stressed out about it. And although it ain't perfect now, but it is functional and many students depend on it. Then there was the 24hr study rooms? I personally used it myself and found it to be very beneficial. Besides those, I don't really know, I guess much of it is in the background operations. Oh yeah SA food used to SUCK BIG TIME, now it's tremendously better, I was there to witness the change. Library is open till late night during exam periods? That's good too. I believe there're many other things which aren't really noticeable, cause I don't live on campus nor at TTS, and I don't spend much time on campus.

As for the exact changes that the President has brought, I won't be able to list them out because I wasn't in the team. Probably can ask the people that carried out the above changes that I mentioned, and then can ask them how did their President lead them during his term.

Did I change your perception by at least a little bit? By the way, besides bringing change (which can be a very subjective matter and might seem as lip service to some), there are certain compulsory roles and responsibilities of being an SA executive, they're listed here http://sa.nottingham.edu.my/Elections/Duti...0Executives.pdf

Well as I mentioned I don't really spend much time on campus, therefore I won't be able to share similar views as yours. But I'm sure that what you feel is what many others may feel. Go sound it out during the hustings, bombard them with questions and make sure they adhere to their own promises. Just a personal note, one of Jing Shen's plan is to provide constant updates on changes and decisions. The constant updates is not solely for the purpose of reporting, but rather, it's purpose is to gain valuable feedback in order to optimize SA decisions. And where do those valuable feedbacks come from? From students who need and want to see quality in changes and also improvements.

Also, coming back to the first point I mentioned about lack of publicity, I now think that it's due to a few people making decisions without really making their decisions or plans known clearly throughout the whole community. Therefore, one of Mr. Tan's plan is actually to appoint representatives from all schools to jointly have a say in some of the SA decisions, there I guess would at least mitigate some of the lack of transparency (or publicity).

This post has been edited by entryman: Mar 21 2010, 06:53 AM

Ok,let's not talk about publicity.
What you said is correct,I have to admit they have done jobs.
Maybe due to the lack of good management team in UNMC.
I lost some food on campus during first semester of this academic year.
I emailed my hall tutor and cc the sa president,sa secretary.
My hall tutor replied,yet the other two executives remained silent.
Even they couldn't do anything,they still should email me back of something isn't it?
It will be kinda rude if something serious that you (the executives) don't even bother to reply,and you are holding high posts in SA(student rep in our uni).
Just a piece of sharing.

btw,I think the management team in UNMC should just make those staffs more efficient.Those meetings that being held up for students reps and lecturers don't seem effective too.

Your statement actually brought me to the fact that I'm not really clear about the purpose of the SA being there. Thus, I did a search on Google and here's what I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Association

It is an interesting read I would say.

Anyway back to point. Your predicament about unreplied emails I personally have encountered too. They kept sending out these 1MB/2MB/3MB pictures, coz either they didn't bother to resize the picture, or they totally don't know how. Till today after IT sent out that educational email, they are still doing it. FTW. I'll make sure to mention to Mr. Tan regarding replying all emails and probably determine how to set up a quick response team to on campus personal problems, coz that seems like one of the factors which cause students to start getting ill feelings about the SA.

About the tweaking efficiency, hmm.. I guess sometimes things are a bit disappointing but whatever the cause of it we won't really know. Could be financial, or lack of support, etc. I believe the SA is there to help alleviate some student problems have make some improvements to student lives, but it won't be fair to be making them accountable for not being able to fix the management's problems.

This post has been edited by entryman: Mar 22 2010, 09:49 AM

For those who attended the annual dinner this year, don't you feel that it's a total ripoff?

3 meals, 1 starter soup, 1 main course, 1 dessert for RM120? I mean cmon man.

No wonder there's no email notifications from v2, moved to v3 dy lol.

That's Shangri-la price for you. lol

Last year for my team, Shangri-la was first in the strike-off list. lol . Too expensive, and the reception area so small, practically none. But the hall looked great though.

This post has been edited by entryman: Mar 23 2010, 02:40 PM

I'd still feel that it's not worth it.

This post has been edited by eXPeri3nc3: Mar 23 2010, 02:52 PM