QUOTE(88XAVIERX88 @ May 7 2010, 08:11 PM)
Thanks. then i'll just ignore them. ^^
Waste of time. need to do presentation and all. and study those nonscence facts.
coz all my friends here keep on saying it's compulsary. but after doing some googling, i realised that the consequences of not doing LAN does not affect ACCA student coz it's external.
Sunway called and they said that people from the gahmen will check. but i think they can't do nything oso. LOL
Added on May 7, 2010, 8:28 pmcan someone explain how working life at big 4 is?
coz most forum only say that it's a very very stressed work place. not fit for human. but occasionally u have someone saying it's not entirely true. there's lots of pathway within big 4 bla bla bla.
but no one explain in detail what those other things are.
i think there's a lot of ACCA students who would like to know the future career path from someone who has worked b4.
can someone just brief about working life after ACCA? what next? i know some seniors doing CIA or ICAEW after their ACCA. are those necesary? will ACCA alone be enough to move you up the corporate ladder?
also what can graduate expect from working at big 4? coz i heard there's also consulting but not much is explained about it. it would be great to have insiders view.
lecturers also gave a very negative perspective about working at big 4. most complain about the strees and OT.
oh yea, i would like to know the pay scale as well. on average how much will employees get when they get promoted to each higher level and how long does it usually take to reach those rank. there's one statistic i saw at accountant key web site. but that's for singapore and UK. not malaysia.
what does it take to reach partner level? LOL this is kinda irrelevant now but it's nice to have some perspective about it.
BTW do we need to join clubs or societies to get a job?? coz i've been told that in order to get jobs these days, you need to be all rounded. does it really matter for acca graduate? extracuricular activity vs high marks. which one employer look for? and does those activity matter at all in the first place?
I can give view from one of the big4 if you are interested.
Big 4 is project orientated or deadline some called it.
If no project then your life is like any other normal workers, go back at 6, no stress, .... that kind of thing.
If project comes and got deadline you need to meet it no matter what. Even sick also need to stick to it. I got one time outstation and sick for the whole week but still need to finish the job. In easy words you need
commitment. You gotta finish what you started.
Next is the dreadful working hours.
In Big4 there is a lot of multi layered structure, there is small, medium and large team and super team.
The last team is all those horrible news you heard about nightmares in big 4 like staying late, work like hell sort of thing. These team learned the most and gain respect from other teammates whenever they go to office from field client. Normally reserved for those dying to learn and ambitious people. if not you can request to join smaller teams for less harder portfolios.
Your lecturers are right, I have been working non stop even on weekends (9am to 1am) from early march until today. Today mark my first day off apart from labour day. And there is no OT pay. No time for personal leisure too. My close colleagues share my view too
(most from sunway anyway).
You join big4 not bcos of salary but for the experience. I can assure you we are paid worse than DBKL workers for pay per hour rate. But experience gained is invaluable. I learned things at a very rapid rate, cos when auditing, the finance manager approach me and said I can handle things even her 2 year assistant cannot do. So in the end it depends how much you can take from it.
Job very much depends, some will need to wait for a while before given a file to handle all by themselves. Means you do the audit for the whole company instead of just class of accounts. These are the reason given by some that Big4 cannot provide these chances to learn cos very specific. Quite true but its just timing cos sooner or later you will given maybe slightly years. I am blessed with good team, so they just give me and other juniors the chance to handle all by ourselves even when less than half a year. Or forced to cos half my team left by then.
People leaving ib Big4 is legendary. And you always need to be constantly ready to take over their work. So you are basicly doing 2 to 3 person workload at the same time. Imagine a whole team just left........
Partner level .......... you can if you are willing to work late every night (sometimes weekend) for 15 to 20 years then possible lo (in Big4 at least). And you must have ICAEW and approval from other partners.
For big4 they are not that picky but extra activities comes with bonus compared to those who dont.
For MNC, they do prefer all rounded and acca comes slightly less appealing cos too narrow and no clubs participation. But with proper working experience, that short handedness can be eliminated.
Just 2 criteria to be successful.
You need to be booksmart (IQ) and streetsmart (EQ).
Adios peeps, off for my first weekend outing
May 5 2010, 06:58 PM
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