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post Apr 5 2010, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Apr 5 2010, 04:39 PM)
different broker got different spread. oanda spread is lower than ibfx...

in case u dont know whats spread, its kinda like brokerage for buying stock
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Ohh then it must be the brokerage. Becos all the while when on demo i would just get few pips/bucks then sell. lol, me newbie so better dun put there too long. Hmm guess i am buying too much micro lots or having high leverage oso. Gonna do more demo and adjust my lots/leverage before put in some real money in.


QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 5 2010, 04:44 PM)
Continue to play around, you will understand one day. Theoretically, it is the same for all brokers, and you should assume that also as a newbie.
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Yeah at first i was thinking it would be the same. hmm guess it is the spread that make me loss. everytime i made a trade, i already saw like 10 bucks negative in p/l. lol, i tot i was slow in executing orders. lol
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 5 2010, 01:55 PM)
This thread a bit boring without thomas
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laugh.gif or u just want to scalp using his recommended trades tongue.gif


QUOTE(john123x @ Apr 5 2010, 02:44 PM)
thats very true, at least he can share his views here, and we can follow his trade or take an opposing trade....
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his trades has very high roi chances. as far as i can recall, all his posting hit.


QUOTE(heliora @ Apr 5 2010, 02:58 PM)
haha ya so far from all the trades he's done the success rate is pretty high, just that his leverage is so high that a few losing trades killed him
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true..true..now where is thomas? we miss u laugh.gif
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post Apr 5 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Apr 5 2010, 05:47 PM)
Ohh then it must be the brokerage. Becos all the while when on demo i would just get few pips/bucks then sell. lol, me newbie so better dun put there too long. Hmm guess i am buying too much micro lots or having high leverage oso. Gonna do more demo and adjust my lots/leverage before put in some real money in.
Yeah at first i was thinking it would be the same. hmm guess it is the spread that make me loss. everytime i made a trade, i already saw like 10 bucks negative in p/l. lol, i tot i was slow in executing orders. lol
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since i got time now, i describe in detail.

if u notice, for each currency pair, there got bid and ask price. the difference between both price is the spread.

for long position, u open the order using the ask price and close it using the bid price.
for short position, u open the order using the bid price, and close the order using the ask price.

example: eurusd bid= 1.3504 , ask= 1.3506
spread is 2 pips, means for each order, i start the position with -2 pips.

if u open a long position and close it immediately. u open at 1.3506 and close it at 1.3504, lose 2 pips already
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wah oanda give GJ 2.7 spread ahhh..mmmm sedapnya smile.gif
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QUOTE(Freezefrost @ Apr 6 2010, 01:00 AM)
wah oanda give GJ 2.7 spread ahhh..mmmm sedapnya smile.gif
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Demm..Insta give 7. Is that 2.7 fix even on news?
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post Apr 6 2010, 11:36 AM

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oanda is comitted to providing the lowest spread possible. For instants I havent met another broket that offers less than oanda for E/U (0.9 pips) with exception of dukascopy? but dukascopy requires a minimum of USD50k deposit to start.

But during news time the spread increases.. but only for a minute or two..
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post Apr 6 2010, 12:05 PM

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hello,

i am zero knowledge in forex.Just wanna ask how is the technical analysis. is there any fundamental analysis?

japanese candlestick, channel uptrend, downtrend, support,resistance, moving average, chart reversal pattern, bersih trend,bullish trend,money management,cut losses,entry and exit strategy, trading plan..is similar in playing stock market?
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Hi imax80.. teach me SAP and i teach u fx tongue.gif hahaha

Anyway fx is quite different from stock market. Stock market is microecons while fx is macroecons.. technical analysis applies in fx also but fundamentals determine where it goes.
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try going babypips.com for basic 1st
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don't ever go for instaforex Malaysia i encounter worst CS unbelievable with such attitude i intend to ask a question all i got was i got scolded LOL

P.S sry for my bad English hehe ^.^
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tq for headsup!
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post Apr 6 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Apr 6 2010, 12:14 PM)
Hi imax80.. teach me SAP and i teach u fx tongue.gif hahaha

Anyway fx is quite different from stock market. Stock market is microecons while fx is macroecons.. technical analysis applies in fx also but fundamentals determine where it goes.
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heheh..you also in SAP field? i just wanna ask if the technical analysis in stock market can be apply in FOREX trading hmm.gif
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QUOTE(imax80 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:11 PM)
heheh..you also in SAP field? i just wanna ask if the technical analysis in stock market can be apply in FOREX trading  hmm.gif
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Same concept. They all use the same candlestick concepts, fibs, resistance, support, etc etc. You just need to know how worldwide events affect the currency pairs. In-fact, the theory of the indicators are the same and some books have a title like 'Trading with candlesticks' for forex, stocks and options. It uses all 3 as examples, hence the theory would be very similar.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 6 2010, 02:22 PM)
Same concept. They all use the same candlestick concepts, fibs, resistance, support, etc etc. You just need to know how worldwide events affect the currency pairs. In-fact, the theory of the indicators are the same and some books have a title like 'Trading with candlesticks' for forex, stocks and options. It uses all 3 as examples, hence the theory would be very similar.
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thank you sleepwalker..then it make my study easier since i already know the technical analysis.
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post Apr 6 2010, 04:33 PM

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ops GJ just hit fibo smile.gif
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QUOTE(Freezefrost @ Apr 6 2010, 04:33 PM)
ops GJ just hit fibo smile.gif
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Wow.. a statement like that without the fibo percentage hit and the fibo range is as good as a Playboy Magazine without any naked women in it. doh.gif
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QUOTE(jmenaxs @ Apr 6 2010, 12:37 PM)
don't ever go for instaforex Malaysia i encounter worst CS unbelievable with such attitude i intend to ask a question all i got was i got scolded LOL

P.S sry for my bad English hehe ^.^
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aiyo bro.. that bad ah... ah well... im already there... later when I reach us50k i move la... but other using 5digit... calculation problem..
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post Apr 7 2010, 09:05 AM

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kevler: if i may ask, elliot wave 1-5 can be used on both bull and bear is it?

QUOTE(http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/elliottwavetheory.asp)
Based on rhythms found in nature, the theory suggests that the market moves up in a series of five waves and down in a series of three waves.


QUOTE(http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/111401.asp?viewed=1)
An impulse-wave formation, followed by a corrective wave, form an Elliott wave degree consisting of trends and countertrends. Although the patterns pictured above are bullish, the same applies for bear markets where the main trend is down.


both quote kinda contradicting one another.

top one said 1-5 only bull. A-C for bear.

bottom said 1-5 and A-C can be applied on both bull or bear depending on main trend iinm.

so which one is correct?
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Apr 7 2010, 09:05 AM)
kevler: if i may ask, elliot wave 1-5 can be used on both bull and bear is it?
QUOTE(http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/111401.asp?viewed=1)
An impulse-wave formation, followed by a corrective wave, form an Elliott wave degree consisting of trends and countertrends. Although the patterns pictured above are bullish, the same applies for bear markets where the main trend is down.


both quote kinda contradicting one another.

top one said 1-5 only bull. A-C for bear.

bottom said 1-5 and A-C can be applied on both bull or bear depending on main trend iinm.

so which one is correct?
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my comment below is based on my attachment

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top one said 1-5 only bull. A-C for bear.

This quote is correct for 5-3 waves , as displayed

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bottom said 1-5 and A-C can be applied on both bull or bear depending on main trend iinm.

This quote also correct for 5-3 waves . If you can see corrective wave ABC in circles , each movement in wave A-B will label wave abc as attached.

for wave B-C , it will be labelled as wave 1-2-3-4-5 , as it is .


if you want to earn more , you should target on wave 3 or wave C


one more thing, if you want to know when the major wave 5 wave turned into bearish trend , u need to do wave count from monthly/yearly chart.
from there you can determine when you can go for long-term trading , either bull or bear

This post has been edited by kevler: Apr 7 2010, 02:00 PM

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