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trogdor1oh1
post Mar 29 2010, 11:11 AM

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Rwar Screemo put me on the Allpowerful M15x owners list pls D:
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post Mar 29 2010, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 02:45 AM)
damn damn damn!!
i'm so confused rite now!!
arghhh!!
some said if i get it now,eventho its with the sli cards,its useless bcoz of the bottleneck caused by the low processors..
n some said wait cuz AW maybe is coming up with a whole new thing but i'm afraid its gonna be out of my budget..
i dont know what to do anymore..
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Hey dude, i get my m17x with this promotion too.. free upgrade SLI card..
Last time im thinking to get or not.. Then suffering at this forum like u..

But, finally, i decided to get it with upgrading the proc and the hd display to 1200p and 3 years complete cover warranty at RM82XX only..
and my opinion is, grab it... You wait for the latest ATI will maybe costs u alot, and maybe when it release the ATI chip and u suffering again whether buy or wait for promotion again and again and repeat ...

Btw, i already have mine 1 month++ almost 2 months .. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 29, 2010, 1:01 pm
QUOTE(trogdor1oh1 @ Mar 28 2010, 08:20 PM)
A CD IS STUCK IN MY DRIVE. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN.
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Hey mate, this happen on my M17x before.. haha
The only reason i think is because of ahem's CD..

This post has been edited by cy-yang: Mar 29 2010, 01:02 PM
taufiqtahir
post Mar 29 2010, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Mar 29 2010, 12:58 PM)
Hey dude, i get my m17x with this promotion too.. free upgrade SLI card..
Last time im thinking to get or not.. Then suffering at this forum like u..

But, finally, i decided to get it with upgrading the proc and the hd display to 1200p and 3 years complete cover warranty at RM82XX only..
and my opinion is, grab it... You wait for the latest ATI will maybe costs u alot, and maybe when it release the ATI chip and u suffering again whether buy or wait for promotion again and again and repeat ...

Btw, i already have mine 1 month++ almost 2 months ..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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the proc u upgrade to what?
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post Mar 29 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Mar 29 2010, 01:58 PM)
Hey dude, i get my m17x with this promotion too.. free upgrade SLI card..
Last time im thinking to get or not.. Then suffering at this forum like u..

But, finally, i decided to get it with upgrading the proc and the hd display to 1200p and 3 years complete cover warranty at RM82XX only..
and my opinion is, grab it... You wait for the latest ATI will maybe costs u alot, and maybe when it release the ATI chip and u suffering again whether buy or wait for promotion again and again and repeat ...

Btw, i already have mine 1 month++ almost 2 months ..  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on March 29, 2010, 1:01 pm
Hey mate, this happen on my M17x before.. haha
The only reason i think is because of ahem's CD..
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IIRC it's because the CD art was a sticker, apparently that's bad for slotloading drives.
I used to label my CDs like that, led to my old laptop's CD drive a splode.
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post Mar 29 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 01:57 PM)
the proc u upgrade to what?
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Look at my siggy dude..
I think My spec now 8k no problem..


Added on March 29, 2010, 2:36 pm
QUOTE(trogdor1oh1 @ Mar 29 2010, 02:01 PM)
IIRC it's because the CD art was a sticker, apparently that's bad for slotloading drives.
I used to label my CDs like that, led to my old laptop's CD drive a splode.
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ow...lol


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taufiqtahir
post Mar 29 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Mar 29 2010, 02:01 PM)
Look at my siggy dude..
I think My spec now 8k no problem..
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with the core 2 duo 2.8ghz proc,there is no bottleneck since ur using sli??
then this is great news for me!!

n can u guys tell me what is the minimum processor that can be used with sli to avoid the bottleneck?
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post Mar 29 2010, 04:54 PM

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with the core 2 duo 2.8ghz proc,there is no bottleneck since ur using sli??
then this is great news for me!!

n can u guys tell me what is the minimum processor that can be used with sli to avoid the bottleneck?


To answer your original question, a 2.8GHz one will be great, but if you're stuck with the 2.53GHz one, it's not the end of the world.

Are you sure you want to get the M17x?
I don't want to confuse you even more, but IMO you seem to be concentrating on the fact that the M17x has SLI, and nothing else.

SLI *is* powerful, and getting it free is one hell of a good deal, but you shouldn't stress yourself to fit in processor/display for the 30% extra graphics performance that SLI offers.

With a less powerful processor, SLI doesn't become useless, it just causes stuff like complex calculations etc to become slower. For example, in strategy games, the processor is doing a lot of work because it has to calculate all the units' actions, explosions etc on the battlefield.
In games like L4D2 the processor also has to work harder when you get attacked by many, many zombies.

So it actually depends on what you want to use your M17x for. So if you get it now, no regrets, be happy with it and take care of it smile.gif



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post Mar 29 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(nitevision92 @ Mar 29 2010, 04:54 PM)
To answer your original question, a 2.8GHz one will be great, but if you're stuck with the 2.53GHz one, it's not the end of the world.

Are you sure you want to get the M17x?
I don't want to confuse you even more, but IMO you seem to be concentrating on the fact that the M17x has SLI, and nothing else.

SLI *is* powerful, and getting it free is one hell of a good deal, but you shouldn't stress yourself to fit in processor/display for the 30% extra graphics performance that SLI offers.

With a less powerful processor, SLI doesn't become useless, it just causes stuff like complex calculations etc to become slower. For example, in strategy games, the processor is doing a lot of work because it has to calculate all the units' actions, explosions etc on the battlefield.
In games like L4D2 the processor also has to work harder when you get attacked by many, many zombies.

So it actually depends on what you want to use your M17x for. So if you get it now, no regrets, be happy with it and take care of it smile.gif
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thanks alot nitevision92..
that really helps..
well,one fact is,i am concentrating on the fact that the m17x has the sli..
thats why i am so concerned..
i also do gaming and i am replacing my pc for a laptop..
thats why i am searching for a good pc replacement..
and furthermore,the m15x higher specs is already 6.6k and i need to juz add in a little to get the m17x..
well,if i want to upgrade the proc n display it will cost me another 1k but i'm fine with it..

but in ur personal opinion..should i proceed with the m17x or consider the m15x?
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post Mar 29 2010, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Mar 29 2010, 02:01 PM)
Look at my siggy dude..
I think My spec now 8k no problem..
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i bet you still don't find any games that doesn't satisfy your desire FPS rite mate? just don't name me stupid game's engine like the one used for GTA4 sweat.gif

QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 04:12 PM)
with the core 2 duo 2.8ghz proc,there is no bottleneck since ur using sli??
then this is great news for me!!

n can u guys tell me what is the minimum processor that can be used with sli to avoid the bottleneck?
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C2D can be consider as high end Dual Processor which is not a problem that limit your GPU's performance.

but still, its depend on the optimization of game's engine. if you benchmarking Crysis & Crysis Warhead, where the Crytex Engine choose to optimize Dual Core instead of Quad core, you can see an increment of performance by using C2D compared to Quad.

but if the game's engine utilized Quad Core like Devil May Cry 4 and Resident Evil 5, your gaming framerate can be compensate by your monstrous GTX280M SLi. you don't even realized if there is less 5 FPS and if your FPS is more than 60 - you will not see the different at all.

so what i am stressing here is - the term bottleneck on C2D 28.Ghz is not significant. you may use that term for M11x or M15x for their processor, but not for M17x-R1.


QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 06:19 PM)
but in ur personal opinion..should i proceed with the m17x or consider the m15x?
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the real bottleneck will occur when you choose i7 for gaming.

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post Mar 29 2010, 06:36 PM

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take the m15x and throw in 2k for the 5870 =D
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post Mar 29 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Mar 29 2010, 06:36 PM)
take the m15x and throw in 2k for the 5870 =D
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are you referring to 5870 Desktop variant?

because 5870 Mobility cannot fit into M15x casing. not even its heatsink sweat.gif
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post Mar 29 2010, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 07:19 PM)
but in ur personal opinion..should i proceed with the m17x or consider the m15x?
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The M15x is already ridiculously large and barely fits in my backpack.
I don't even want to know how big the M17x is.

So imo, you'd only be buying the M17x as a total desktop replacement. It's as portable as a desktop itself.
At least with the M15x, it DOES(barely) fit in a bag, so if you really need to, you can carry it around.

If portability isn't an issue, definetely go for the M17x. Quad core is more than enough to do anything today, and its performance downright murders the M15x.
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the real bottleneck will occur when you choose i7 for gaming.

Now it's my turn to be worried. sad.gif
Almost about to buy the M15x. Always thought i7 optimization thingy was a problem, but not a big one.

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QUOTE(nitevision92 @ Mar 29 2010, 06:53 PM)
Now it's my turn to be worried. sad.gif
Almost about to buy the M15x. Always thought i7 optimization thingy was a problem, but not a big one.
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it is good processor to run most of the program - except gaming due to the HTT. most of the game use real clock (1.6GHz for i7-720), not clock during HTT.

but if you are not enthusiast that doesn't demanding of high setting, it suit you well smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2010, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 29 2010, 08:04 PM)
it is good processor to run most of the program - except gaming due to the HTT. most of the game use real clock (1.6GHz for i7-720), not clock during HTT.

but if you are not enthusiast that doesn't demanding of high setting, it suit you well smile.gif
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How do I get it to use 2.8GHz? I NEED MORE FRAMES DAMMIT. I get paranoid when any of my games are under 60fps.
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yea, i heard ppl saying i7 is bad for gaming.. i mean not as good as c2d .. sad.gif
just heard those from sellers in lowyat last week smile.gif

cheers just my 2 cents
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QUOTE(trogdor1oh1 @ Mar 29 2010, 07:10 PM)
How do I get it to use 2.8GHz? I NEED MORE FRAMES DAMMIT. I get paranoid when any of my games are under 60fps.
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err you simply can't. as long as the engine do not optimize HTT, you just can't.

but you can owning RE5 kaw2 i tell you since RE5 is the only game in the world that support HTT! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 29 2010, 07:17 PM)
yea, i heard ppl saying i7 is bad for gaming.. i mean not as good as c2d .. sad.gif
just heard those from sellers in lowyat last week smile.gif

cheers just my 2 cents
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it is FREAKIN good if the games support HTT, but sadly, only one game that support HTT so far...

but sometimes, this defect can be compensate by your GTX260M. ask around, they will say their gaming performance is not as bad as its rumors - since GTX260M cover this disadvantages for them. smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2010, 07:22 PM

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thanks alot guys..
n mr.docter,u really helped me again this time..
ur explaination is superb..
thanks alot mate!!

well,i am replacing my pc for a laptop because of its portability..
but i dont carry it around everytime..
juz sometimes to go back home from uni or juz to go for group studies..
thats all..
i think that would be ok..wont it??
huuu~
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QUOTE(taufiqtahir @ Mar 29 2010, 07:22 PM)
thanks alot guys..
n mr.docter,u really helped me again this time..
ur explaination is superb..
thanks alot mate!!

well,i am replacing my pc for a laptop because of its portability..
but i dont carry it around everytime..
juz sometimes to go back home from uni or juz to go for group studies..
thats all..
i think that would be ok..wont it??
huuu~
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go for the M15x. despite all the so called issues with core i, and HTT, you'll most likely be happy with it overall. and yea cheers to Mr.Docter!! notworthy.gif

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