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 GameCube, PS2 and XBOX, The Good , The Bad and The Ulgy ?

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post Feb 24 2005, 01:54 PM, updated 20y ago

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Since I see so-so-so many threads about asking which console is better, i guess we should create a thread that discuss all 3 consoles togethre under one roof.

First start off with its price.

Average GameCube should not cost then RM450 since US retail price is only USD$99

Average Playstation 2 (PS2) should cost not more then RM850

Average XBOX should cost not more then RM850. When getting XBOX, they come in a different so called package. I guess it is a gimick from Microsoft.

The standard package come with 1 orginal controller and the console is in black color. The package should cost not more then RM750

Then Microsoft also release White Crystal Edition where you will get 2 controller in trasparent white color and of course, the console also in trasparent white color. This package should not cost more then RM850

Some package also come with 1 or 3 free orginal games like Tetris online (and some other not so popular games. Sorry, i forgot those games title... )

i guess it have a lots to write about all this 3 games console. Maybe i think i should let other members help me out and please correct me if i am wrong.


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post Feb 24 2005, 05:46 PM

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My fave is ps2 cos i'm an rpg fan....
Gamecube ranks 2nd for me as it gives us more relaxing games.Usually relax with it after a tedious rpg from ps2.
Well the xbox...ermm...only a few worthy titles but its good nevertheless..
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Okay, I was gonna start something like this, but didn't know how to get the ball rolling. Thanks Kite biggrin.gif

Anyway, from now on, ALL inter-console discussions go HERE.

No more "Xbox vs. PS2" nonsense outside of this thread and flames will NOT be tolerated here. Fanboy posts are allowed (with strict supervision), but nothing against another console. Any troll or inflammatory post will be deleted without warning.

And remember, don't feed the trolls.

PS. - Example of Fanboy post "PS2 ownz0rz!!!"
Contains no value whatsoever besides being an extollation of the person's love for the console... Can be posted if the rest of the post is informative, not acceptable as one-liner posts. No "PS2 is t3h suxorz" stuff.
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post Feb 24 2005, 06:52 PM

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I also still prefer PS2, I like RPG and adventure games smile.gif
Plus a lot of nice racing and fighting games too
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post Feb 24 2005, 07:02 PM

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My fav is XBOX. Best console graphics, unbeatable sound(DD5.1 rocks!), has most of the good games and some great exclusive. Oh..of course, the flexibility of the XBOX ...also doubles as my living room media centre with a network to my PC and internet.

It's so cool to share photos album on the big TV with friends and family in the living room!!


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post Feb 24 2005, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 24 2005, 07:02 PM)
My fav is XBOX. Best console graphics, unbeatable sound(DD5.1 rocks!), has most of the good games and some great exclusive. Oh..of course, the flexibility of the XBOX ...also doubles as my living room media centre with a network to my PC and internet.

It's so cool to share photos album on the big TV with friends and family in the living room!!
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i agree but fact is it doesnt have most good games... huh.gif
plz dun flame me for this cuz im referring to marks given by reviewers...
check gamerankings.com... thumbup.gif
one thing is most of the time it has the best multiplatform games...

GC has really good exclusives! but comes with the price factor...
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:52 PM

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1 ring to rule them all.
1 xbox.
My xbox.
Future home Entertainment system
Gaming machine, jukebox, home theatre system.

What to know about xbox & games screenshots.


BTW, according to the game ranking...
Soul Calibur 97% while half life 2 just 95.6%?
NFL 2K1 95.9%!?!! <---i think it's mostly for americans, how many of us actually play that.
Halo: Combat Evolved 95.7%?What about halo 2?

If you are saying foreign country i think gc price is the cheapest compare to xbox and ps2.

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post Feb 25 2005, 12:45 AM

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I own a GC, and the games are great! The mechanics for Multiplayer Crystal Chron is an experience not to be missed.

But at heart I'm an RPG addict and I miss stuff like Shadow Hearts, FFX, and Kingdom Heart. Not to mention Katamari Damacy (not RPG but something wholly different). I still have to say that PS2 would not have been bad for me either.

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post Feb 25 2005, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(prazole @ Feb 24 2005, 10:55 PM)
i agree but fact is it doesnt have most good games... huh.gif
plz dun flame me for this cuz im referring to marks given by reviewers...
check gamerankings.com... thumbup.gif
one thing is most of the time it has the best multiplatform games...

GC has really good exclusives! but comes with the price factor...
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I only trust scores from gamespot.com thumbup.gif

Anyway, i don't agree it doesn't have "most" good games. In fact, the best version of 99% multiplatform games is on the XBOX. Soul Calibur 2,Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell, BurnOut 3, NFS:UG, LOTR etc etc. What else isn't there?? Cross platform games are best played on XBOX anyway. DD5.1 - no competition!

there's some great exclusive PS2 series, but not too many, namely, DMC,FFX,Omnimusha,Viewtiful Joe which I enjoyed.

Also, the XBOX doesn't have too many exclusive, but most of the exclusive are pretty enjoyable...Ninja Gaiden, Crimson Skies, PDO, Fable, KOTOR, DOA series etc.(except HALO...yeah..i hate HALO...oops...better run for cover from Private John...LOL)

Quality is more important than quantity. I don't have time to play so many games anyway. I'll rather use it on some really good games.

Currently playing:
XBOX - KOTOR 2 ( second round, as Evil Jedi )
PS2 - FFX-2

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post Feb 25 2005, 10:20 AM

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I've never gotten to play GC except the other 2 consoles. I own a PS2 and i'm still thinkin about the Xbox.

PS2 has great games library and yet it is still one of the pioneers in consoles. Too bad it has limited VRAM and on board RAM. If only they would've pump out 8 MB of VRAM at least, it'll be l33t

Xbox...planning to get one coz i want it to be my media centre also. Imagine playing games at higher quality, with 5.1 surround, watching videos/animes streamed from my pc. *drool*. This black box also has its own exclusive which i find it very very tempting for me to buy.
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post Feb 25 2005, 11:51 AM

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Game library wise, I am going with Ps2,GCN then Xbox, but in terms of usage, I use my Xbox,PS2 then GCN , Xbox doubles up as my media centre,so far I can't complain , since I play them all.
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owned DC, now just the emulator(chankast)
owns PS2 and XBOX

ps2 is nice, but after i bought xbox few month back, nearly all of my times spent on it.

anyway, gt4 us is oredy out. . . .
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post Feb 25 2005, 12:23 PM

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Whether it has lots of exclusive game it depends on you. If they are tons of exclusive games for A console but it's not your cup of tea, it's not that "exclusive" anyway.
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xbox is very bulky and heavy.
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post Feb 28 2005, 06:22 PM

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It's hard and perhaps not fair for me to rate which console is better.
Therefore, I'll put a simple guideline of choosing a console according to the
enthusiast level of the owner.

So, ask yourself, are you a console gaming enthusiast, how much
interest do you have in Console gaming?

High : You might want all three
Medium: PS2 and maybe XBOX
Low : probably PS2

Here's why...

PS2, owing to the vast library of games that cater to old and young has a wider appeal. The standard console case is also the most TV shelf friendly. Not the greatest in terms of hardware horsepower, but good games like GT4, MGS3 and
DMC makes it worth the while. So, PS2 is definitely for the casual gamer.

Xbox, once considered a very specialized console with very little market. It is actually gained a lot in popularity in the last two years.
I remember it used to be very difficult to get Xbox games.
Games selection, largely catered for older audiences, very few kiddy
looking games. So, parents can't actually say that they are buying it
for their kids. wink.gif

The standard box actually looks like a hulk of the three but if you are interested and have the time, you can do quite a variety of things with it.
Eg. modding it with a bigger HDD, attaching it to the LAN using a wireless-G card and setting it up as a competent media center to play some of the downloaded media content from the internet. Others have case-modded it to look nicer and more at home with other entertainment peripherals.

A lot of the games also come with high-def 720 progression display, showing some
of the nicest looking graphics on your high-def or enhanced definition TV, by using the high-def AV pack.

So, if you are a gaming enthusiast willing to spend some time tweaking your
box, you'll get a lot from here. In the hands of a casual gamer, unfortunately, the xbox's full potential will not be realised.

As for GC, I don't own one but always wanted to get one but couldn't justify having a third console. So, I can't speak from personal experience.

GC, a quality platform, with a hardware spec that is higher than PS2. However the limited library of games (even though of great quality) means that it is definitely for fans of the games such as Metroid Prime, Zelda, Mario and RE4.

You are definitely either a console gaming enthusiast(which quite likely that you own a PS2 and/or XBOX) or a loyal Nintendo-specialist and fan.

There you go, each console has its target users and fans. Whatever you buy, just make sure you can find the time to enjoy it. thumbup.gif


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Well said.
Ps2 games lesser blood and gore, western game....blood & gore everywhere, even games that look like for kids, cute big head suddenly the head explode and gore fly everywhere.

Anyway about your interest level, i do not agree with all.

High : ya, all three.
Medium : ps2 or xbox or gc depends on your interest.
Low : ps2 or xbox...not really just ps2 'coz i think with all the exclusive, mostly ps2 game require long hour of gaming which is not really for normal gamer. RPG? These category of gamer are basically into sports game only.
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I only trust scores from gamespot.com  thumbup.gif

there's some great exclusive PS2 series, but not too many, namely, DMC,FFX,Omnimusha,Viewtiful Joe which I enjoyed.

Also, the XBOX doesn't have too many exclusive, but most of the exclusive are pretty enjoyable...Ninja Gaiden, Crimson Skies, PDO, Fable, KOTOR, DOA series etc.(except HALO...yeah..i hate HALO...oops...better run for cover from Private John...LOL)

Quality is more important than quantity. I don't have time to play so many games anyway. I'll rather use it on some really good games.


BUT NOT TOO MANY?
a small boy in an african village is laughing right now at you...

ok let me enlighten u to great examples... SquareEnix games (final fantasy series, dragon warrior, kingdom hearts).. Hideo Kojima's game MGS series, ZOE2, Sony's Exclusive... R&C series, Sly Cooper series... ICO.. Gran Turismo series.. Fighting game... tekken series.. virtua Fighter.. alot more capcom's 2D figthing games..
thats all i can think of... for now.. add in those u already said...
hmmmm there is no way xbox coming near this.. not a mile close... whistling.gif

QUALITY IN QUANTITY ANYTIME! thumbup.gif

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Anyway, i don't agree it doesn't have "most" good games. In fact, the best version of 99% multiplatform games is on the XBOX. Soul Calibur 2,Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell, BurnOut 3, NFS:UG, LOTR etc etc. What else isn't there?? Cross platform games are best played on XBOX anyway. DD5.1 - no competition!
i really dont like to say this.. (here i go again)
cross platform games also come out on the PC, so the best version u see is not the xbox, although u want to think it that way since there is nothing to boast around about xbox's library of little quality exclusives.. u went on to talk about cross platforms... pathetic is the word.. vmad.gif
sigh... sweat.gif
so if u want to talk aout cross platform games.. i rather you NOT bring into discussion... whistling.gif

a simple question for matrix... u know what gameranking is about?? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif plz check it out for yourself so that you wont be saying that you ONLY trust gamespot next time...


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Watch the language prazole. You're walking a very fine line.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Mar 2 2005, 12:09 PM)
Watch the language prazole. You're walking a very fine line.
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Thank you!! Can't imagine why some people get all upset because someone else doesn't like his game system as much... biggrin.gif

As a side note, exclusive means NOTHING if you don't like the games. Kingdom Hearts(ugly crap), ZOE2, Dark Cloud, Ico,GT3(gimme BO3 anyday)....yeuuchh...no thanks.

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post Mar 2 2005, 01:56 PM

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Why xbox user and ps2 can't get along...(make it an exception to mutsumi san the ps2 whore).
On top of that, me and him play halo 2 together.
It's just personal preference...why everybody just couldn't believe in that?

final fantasy series, dragon warrior, kingdom hearts--->not everybody like jap style of rpg, some find the walking style, fighting system annoying like me. Like FFX 2...go figure ( no offense to ff's fan)
All those slg robot game etc, it takes so long just to finish 1 round...i am spending my whole life just for that one game.
Same goes to xbox games, not everybody cups of tea.

PS2 have alot of games but doesn't mean everybody gona like it just because gameranking rank it high. Besides it's an online poll. PS2 set foot earlier than xbox, for sure ps2 have more user.

Do you even play NHL? NO, the score so high...why don't you play it? It's FUN, read the score. Get what i mean? Zelda, top ranking game...why not everybody play it? Reason, some people are willing to let it go and go for something else on other console.

Agingamer post is the best so far. Prazole are way too ps2 supporter, eventhough i am xbox supporter i don't have bias opinion on ps2 other than their hardware spec.

One more thing, not all cross platform games are release on pc. Mostly are console only. If it's that many, nobody gona get console anymore.

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