1 ring to rule them all.
1 xbox.
My xbox.
Future home Entertainment system
Gaming machine, jukebox, home theatre system.

What to know about xbox & games screenshots.


BTW, according to the game ranking...
Soul Calibur 97% while half life 2 just 95.6%?
NFL 2K1 95.9%!?!! <---i think it's mostly for americans, how many of us actually play that.
Halo: Combat Evolved 95.7%?What about halo 2?

If you are saying foreign country i think gc price is the cheapest compare to xbox and ps2.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Feb 25 2005, 03:25 AM

Whether it has lots of exclusive game it depends on you. If they are tons of exclusive games for A console but it's not your cup of tea, it's not that "exclusive" anyway.

Well said.
Ps2 games lesser blood and gore, western game....blood & gore everywhere, even games that look like for kids, cute big head suddenly the head explode and gore fly everywhere.

Anyway about your interest level, i do not agree with all.

High : ya, all three.
Medium : ps2 or xbox or gc depends on your interest.
Low : ps2 or xbox...not really just ps2 'coz i think with all the exclusive, mostly ps2 game require long hour of gaming which is not really for normal gamer. RPG? These category of gamer are basically into sports game only.

Why xbox user and ps2 can't get along...(make it an exception to mutsumi san the ps2 whore).
On top of that, me and him play halo 2 together.
It's just personal preference...why everybody just couldn't believe in that?

final fantasy series, dragon warrior, kingdom hearts--->not everybody like jap style of rpg, some find the walking style, fighting system annoying like me. Like FFX 2...go figure ( no offense to ff's fan)
All those slg robot game etc, it takes so long just to finish 1 round...i am spending my whole life just for that one game.
Same goes to xbox games, not everybody cups of tea.

PS2 have alot of games but doesn't mean everybody gona like it just because gameranking rank it high. Besides it's an online poll. PS2 set foot earlier than xbox, for sure ps2 have more user.

Do you even play NHL? NO, the score so high...why don't you play it? It's FUN, read the score. Get what i mean? Zelda, top ranking game...why not everybody play it? Reason, some people are willing to let it go and go for something else on other console.

Agingamer post is the best so far. Prazole are way too ps2 supporter, eventhough i am xbox supporter i don't have bias opinion on ps2 other than their hardware spec.

One more thing, not all cross platform games are release on pc. Mostly are console only. If it's that many, nobody gona get console anymore.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 2 2005, 02:08 PM

Man you need to chill up man. Everytime you post you are sorta starting a debate war.
You need to check up with your post.
Everytime you post you will be saying ps2 has better game than any other console/platform but i don't post xbox has alot more great games than ps2 etc.

It's just like movies. Titanic....sold alot but i freaking hate that movie. Review gave titanic A+, doesn't mean i gona love it. Bring a masterpiece fps game to a strategy gamer, he will tell you that's a piece of crap. Simple logic.

I couldn't recall the time i said those game are not great game. I only remember something abt saying if you like those game, then you should go for it.
I do however, remember most of the time you bring out the debate about ps2 have alot of games, other console no match for its library. You are forcing others to say it's nice then you get abit agitated.


If you are not what's up with all the post about ps2 having more great games? Did you play NHL, baseball games? You play the games or you just read the review.

It's all boiled down to the same ol' thing.
PS2 target at certain audience...same goes to xbox and gamecube. That's why they are people who buy ps2, some buy xbox etc. Why they are still people who buy xbox, gamecube when ps2 have alot more "great games"???

The list you mention last time, i already told you everything. That list didn't even make it into the word big library of games.
Check back the last discussion between me and you (and you almost make it a flame war). I always say it's just personal preference and you will say no, ps2 have more quality games than xbox. Is that not bias? Fanboi is when someone condem his fav console, he will get frustrated. That's what happen in last discussion and here now.
IF you don't like that particular of exclusive what so exclusive about that games?

I don't play those games are my opinion...but they are alot more people like me out there. Besides all your facts are only from that site. Top ranking gmae are still gamecube, where are all your big library of ps2 games. It's big if the games are your type. Is the movie titanic theory that hard to understand? Not everybody like ship sink romance love story.

The nhl are just example of top ranking games. You are not even playing it and yet you say it's great. If you are not an upset ps2 fanboy, why everytime you are acting like some hot boiled water once this kind of topic is up while other are just cool.

Gamecube have the best ranking in that site but in real world, ps2 sold the most...xbox 2nd gamecube 3rd. I bet gamecube must be sux, right? Since it's not personal preference.

I think we should get back to the topic instead of letting other finding useless info in this thread.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 3 2005, 01:30 AM

If you are not like what i said....other wouldn't have said so...it's not just me.

Anyway, i will just let you win and agree with you. Gamecube sold the least but with top ranking. This must have been the console is bad itself. You just couldn't understand the simple logic.

BTW, i have ps2 first before xbox.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 3 2005, 01:48 AM

Erm sori, not malaysia is worldwide. With the news going arnd. You can do some searching coz currently i am gaming. If not gamecube won't be dirtcheap in uk and us. I will come back to you in awhile.

I see, your worldwide sales figure are japan. Point taken.

Worldwide sales figure

I just lost my game in dota 'coz i keep alt tab to post with you. Now i finish my game, i can do some searching around. Scroll down to the bottom, you will see the number. Remember...sony & nintendo set foot earlier than msoft in console world. They have a strong base. Now xbox sales surpass gamecube, does this means gamecube is a lousy console like how you put it since you follow the ranking so much or it's because xbox got hold of some new audience. You read the news also know nintendo having some trouble with their console sales. Do i really need to do all the google for you?

Sales figure, games rating online etc doesn't makes that gaming console sux. It's your own personal preference.
Lost in translation won in oscar but the movie ticket doesn't sold like hot cakes compare to movie like Lord of the ring. Why? Lost in translation is lousy movie?
Some people like artistic movie some people like action movies. It's the same concept.

Finally you have proven all the point i am trying to tell you.

Game rating and sales figure doesn't make up for the games quality.
Xbox solds more than gamecube 'coz they are still peoples who prefer xbox games over ps2 or gamecube. Still it doesn't mean gamecube sux.

If game ranking system are so reliable why the sales figure still show xbox solds more than gamecube? Why they are still lots of people go for xbox when they know gamecube and ps2 have better games? Their country have no advertisement for ps2 and gamecube?

Simple answer.

Game ranking site review the games, not by comparing 3 consoles. Game site/magazine don't review a game based on the console, like devil may cry should get higher score because it's on ps2, it's because it's a good game for that particular genre and on that console. This doesn't mean everybody love that genre. Get it? Make it an exeption to cross platform game, they might review it based on console.

Well, i should blame you for the lost in dota game though but not the stress.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 3 2005, 02:53 AM

It's not just me & prazole, stringfellow as well but it's all settled in my thread already.

This is the type of comment that piss ppl off. You put yourself on the high ground while others are just fanboy punk kids. This is an arragont post like what i stated in xbox introduction thread.

Game on all 3 consoles are not your life. You can't actually finish all the game even you, you can't say other don't know a single thing while you know almost everything. That's when gaming site, magazine review come in. That's the purpose of gaming review website/mag. We buy something we think which suit us best.

What kind of music you are listening to now? Rock?Jazz?Pop? You like heavy metal? Pop suck? Have you listen to all the pop song from all over the world? No, so everybody are suppose to listen to every single pop song available to understand whether pop song are for them is it? It's just like the gaming world.
Stop giving remark like you are perfect for once for chris sake.

Did you even finish all the game on all 3 consoles? If you do, that must be sad 'coz you spend your 24 hours on all 3 consoles. If you can't, you are not qualify to say you know every single aspect of the gaming world nowadays. Just xbox games itself i having hard time to finish it all, with pc games...and some of the ps2 title.
You favor psp over ds and having argument with other ds fanboy there. Does that not make you a fanboy? Everybody is a fanboy to something.

So you are still bias in someways don't you think? You are human being. Your comment about supporting the games not the console are accurate, but the latter....are not.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 3 2005, 04:01 PM

Ya it's the same manner but i own most of the famous ps2 games because my brother love ps2. I can take screenshot if you want.
I got your point but what i just telling you is ps2 have a great library of certain genre if you into it otherwise ya should go for something else.
Notes : I never jump into conclusion ps2 have no great games at all. It's different genre you will find in each unique console.

Like pop song, boy bands gain popularity, go to tower records 7 out of 10 are pop song. Boyband are extremely famous in asia region. Still some might go for jazz, rock, trance. Not everybody gona like justin timberlake eventhough his record are like mad. You can find 10 great pop song among po world, 3 great classic music doesn't mean one have no choice but to hop in world of pop song. Some likes all as long as it sounds good to them.

BTW, your last post abit too much...might create more disaster in this flame war. Everybody who is involve in this flame war knows their own mistake, each of us actually are contributing to the flame war. People who doesn't are like Chrisky, H@h@ (for not taking side, good mod), Uzumaki NaruTo in xbox introduction thread, Zaryl.
Now..back to the topic and no more flaming.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 3 2005, 06:41 PM

If that's the case i am no difference from you. I own ps2 and xbox. I played devil may cry, final fantasy, gt series, suikoden, getaway, killzone, omnimusha and some slg game. Most of it i didn't finish it, i just let my brother play after awhile. I even list out some of my favourite ps2 games in an old thread. Is that an assumption like you accuse people of? So don't make it an excuse an if you are doing the same thing by giving assumption out of other people. You did your part in contributing to this flamewar like any of us.
Same goes to fanboy, don't accuse others are fanboy as if you are not one of 'em.
Fanboy is just a term, everybody have their own favourite something. It's only consider wrong and extreme when one condem another product oppose to his. You start arguing with matrix few post back because you feel uneasy with his favor towards xbox? Doesn't it makes you the same thing, otherwise why bother posting a reply to him. Indeed you can have all 3 consoles but you will still have your favourites. Like i do with a ps2 & xbox. You spoken yourself you prefer psp over ds handheld. We are human being, you can't change that fact.

As for gamecube i have never play before therefore my comment i stated i never play a gc before, perhaps those who go for gc are into those classic title like zelda mario etc. Since when i said something bad about gamecube? Some multi console owner even quote saying gamecube is expensive in malaysia because he is SUPPORTING pirated product. If they are talking about original game & machine, in foreign country, which is cheaper?


Now everything you said are abit contradict to yourself ain't it?
First you trying to imply one must own 3 console to have better perspective of the gaming world (which is correct), but now you are saying something else like what i mentioned above.

It's true try it only you know but those are for people who have misleading thought on certain games like A console suck because he doesn't even own one. Still, people who doesn't own anything yet will go through survey and review to get something best for themselves. Otherwise, there is no point for gaming review and advertisement nowadays.

So these are non relevant as far as i can tell. Check out my old post if you don't believe. I stated all the reason which people go for ps2, which go for xbox, and gamecube thus slowly from debate it evolves to flame wars.
With all of these, why bother coming in a thread and post something off topic to add some fuel to the flame in xbox introduction thread, you jump in to conclusion not knowing what we are debating about.
If i am making an assumption out of an xbox user, then perhaps i am the only guy in this world who bought xbox for that. Sidenote, I didn't even mention about all the xbox user in this world buy xbox because they are like me. So it's your own assumption.

If what i said so far are false and just assumption, maybe other bought xbox for jap rpg Final Fantasy, PS2 for first person shooter HALO 2, gamecube for strategy game Command & Conquer. Since i don't own a gamecube, given the fact that all the info from gaming media are not very accurate and my experience on ps2 & xbox doesn't help.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 4 2005, 04:15 AM

Console user will stand united. PC user will die terribly here hehe.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 4 2005, 02:16 PM

Rest assure i will not come up with something like console "X wins over console Y", at least my part.

Now lets sign some peace treaty....what is it call in the pirates of caribbean...parley or something, whatever and stop giving reason and replying to all the post.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 4 2005, 04:46 PM

Hello no more name calling. Later h@h@ ban all of us, i don't want to see my beautiful 0% warning bar goes up. Anyway prazole i think you should stop it. You are pushing it to the limits. It makes no difference by changing your sig to that and flaming another guy like that...directly. I think now matrix and prazole need to cool down.
(Maybe bringing in a pc games supporter will change the situation abit 'coz with one common enemy they will all stand united like how bush united the american against "terrorist")

As a matter of fact i find the debate kinda fun, it keeps me up during the night. Oh well...

Now as for me, i am a pure pc gamer since dune 2 (my first pc game). When i am kiddo i only play some nintendo games at my cousin house etc, never really own one.

Until the day my brother bought a ps2 (by telling my mother it's a home entertainment system! we didn't buy to play games only but to play movie & music...erm...you know we are bluffing.)

I watch my brother play some of the game, i play some of it. I find most of the game require long hour of playing. I found some of my favourites like suikoden, killzone, getaway. Some i didn't manage to play but think it's good are dark cloud 2, dothack etc but then game like final fantasy, omnimusha, slg type game doesn't appeal to me.
I don't fancy perfect look & way too sexy babe/guy in some sexy costume (or japanese fasyion) as game character and the animation turns me off ( example ffx - 2, when they run/walk and dance to kill enemy).
Slg game used to be my favourite when i was young until my friend play the robot games everyday and the process is like not much there. It makes me have some kind of slg-phobia. I am not much of a fan for fighting/sports game unless it's a house party etc then i will give it an exception.

Only then i realise i prefer western game over japanese game. I think all of these explain why i seldom play ninja gaiden, doa & sudeki on my xbox. One of my favourite japanese game on xbox is phantom dust. I must say it's very creative and very competitive as well if you have friend who actually play it. What kind of xbox games i play? The post is getting too long...so you can just browse through my thread for more info. Before i end this, i must say one thing that japanese developer have an edge over the western developer are their CG making skills. No doubt about their cg, most of it are top notch. As for western developer are their skill in making multiplayer games.

Lastly, i think that's how xbox got hold of its new market. People like me...in between pc & console.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 5 2005, 12:37 AM

Creative ya...they can even come up with comics and it's just all about fishing
With different fishing rod comes with different power.

Some might find their new creation lovely, some might find it...ya know.
Forgot to add, animation fan should definitely go for ps2. It's the homeland for japanese anime.
PS2 also target at broader audience (any age)...xbox mostly teen above.
As for action game western developer aren't that bad afterall.

You are right, sudeki are done by Uk developer, ain't no japs. in an attempt to break into japanese market.

BTW...my favourite webcomic Ctrl-Alt-Del. Just like a warning sign for all of us.


This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 5 2005, 04:45 AM

I am just like him...almost.
Anyway just don't get it...

What does this means...

He is right about people opinion on xbox. Alot never really try it and condem the machine already.
Some own it but they only play xbox japanese game that's why they don't really like xbox. (obviously ps2 have more jap game)

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 22 2005, 06:34 PM

Ya but you miss out few points.
First by asking you one question. What's your pc graphics card. Mine is 9800 only and the grahpic is pretty much the same if pc are tweaked to play smoothly. Unless you wana have higher resolution, anti alliasing max out etc and have a lag game.
You will only have better graphic if you have 6800 and above, but sadly i can't afford that.

Second, xbox are not just about Battlefield/Brothers in Arms. For what type of western games...just go in the xbox introduction thread as it has been repeat over and over again. Those ported game does look as good as pc with normal gfx but ps2 version are not.
BTW, i believed xbox player get doom 3 are for its coop gameplay. My roommate is waiting anxiously to play doom 3 coop with me 'coz he hasn't finish it on pc.
As you can see western developer are mostly developing games for PC. Japanese 95% on ps2 but nothing much on pc, just look at how many japanese pc games developer out there.
So it's normal to have this thought of xbox are just pc ported game.

Third, xbox is pretty much plug and play. Modding are simply to bring your console experience to next level.

Conclusion?
Xbox to play multiplatform game, pc ported game, and xbox exclusive game. Modding for media center is optional.

Ps2 are for japanese famous title-big library of rpg game...need more to say?
I don't think getting ps2 for pc ported game would be a good idea.
Sports game are easily available on cross platform.

If you like all of the console A games, you wouldn't have time for other console and vice versa. If you are the picky type,
certainly you are the rich one and only play the few titles on one console then move on to another.

In order to get a better picture of my thought, just head to most of the forum populated with xbox user, i believed it's pretty much the same. To help you even more in understanding what i am trying to say, the type of game like in ps2 - god of war, killzone...ya these titles gain lots of attention from me.

Playing 3 types of games in one machine is what make xbox a selling point.
Prove that i am wrong.

OT : head to Teamxbox for interview about japanese developer having hard time publishing international game and complain microsoft lack of effort in marketing xbox in japan or something.

This post has been edited by PrivateJohn: Mar 22 2005, 09:37 PM