QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 23 2015, 03:44 PM)
hmm good info right there, luckily we don't drink oredi Health Alkaline Water Machine
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Aug 23 2015, 03:44 PM) hmm good info right there, luckily we don't drink oredi |
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We bought Alkalife lydia 7. No regrets. Test free as agent comes to your home free. Call Hew+60166585365. Mention teohseokmay to get free rm250 portable filter after home trial
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jan 27 2015, 09:35 PM) I invited him to my home last week. He was able to explain all I needed to know, along with other topics regarding to health. I'd certainly recommend Kevin who is looking for an alkaline water system - at least compared to the others I've met, he knows the hard facts. QUOTE(ricstc @ Aug 23 2015, 10:39 PM) We bought Alkalife lydia 7. No regrets. Test free as agent comes to your home free. Call Hew+60166585365. Mention teohseokmay to get free rm250 portable filter after home trial I have to agree to colinwong89 & ricstc There's practically no harm in getting to know much more about our waters further instead of brushing it off. I went through Kevin Wong 012-6279196 and he was the only consultant that could explain and answer all my questions which I wanted to know. This also ended my 3 month research as all was clarified within a setting. I invited him for a visit at my place and it was probably the best thing I did throughout my research on alkaline water and went for the Alkalife Lydia 9 Turbo right after. Its pretty easy to understand as Kevin will try to explain as layman as possible. Besides that, I find that its good for the whole family to be in the know too. I'll strongly recommend, Kevin Wong to anyone looking for one. He's quite busy from what I was told, better to set up an appointment earlier to match your favorite timing. Exactly colinwong89, you put it rightly, he does know the hard facts. Getting to know something much more in detail makes it easy to make a right decision |
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QUOTE(StrOmGaLD @ Aug 27 2015, 02:01 PM) I have to agree to colinwong89 & ricstc The facts:There's practically no harm in getting to know much more about our waters further instead of brushing it off. I went through Kevin Wong 012-6279196 and he was the only consultant that could explain and answer all my questions which I wanted to know. This also ended my 3 month research as all was clarified within a setting. I invited him for a visit at my place and it was probably the best thing I did throughout my research on alkaline water and went for the Alkalife Lydia 9 Turbo right after. Its pretty easy to understand as Kevin will try to explain as layman as possible. Besides that, I find that its good for the whole family to be in the know too. I'll strongly recommend, Kevin Wong to anyone looking for one. He's quite busy from what I was told, better to set up an appointment earlier to match your favorite timing. Exactly colinwong89, you put it rightly, he does know the hard facts. Getting to know something much more in detail makes it easy to make a right decision pH and ORP is not linked to health. It is the water contents that matters, period. Important ones are calcium and magnesium. And pH and ORP are the measurement of the availability and amount of these contents. You've been sold 'cool marketing fad' and sales tactics. If you have cash and want really good, research proven water, I can point it out to you. But personally, I would just use a simple outdoor sediment filter + indoor carbon based filter + boiling. Not the healthiest, but it's already in the top 95% in terms of body requirements for health. I do not need to pay more than a thousand ringgit to get that additional 5%. The money can be channeled to higher quality food which is more important in this case. |
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Hi all, i am a newbie here. Thinking of want to buy ionizer system. But there are too many brands in the market, for like panasonic, alkalife , AO, Kangen also. My friend has bought kangen but it cost RM12,000. I came across ioniser from Bacfree and it cost around RM9500++. May i know which is better? and Have you all heard about the ioniser system from Bacfree? They claimed that the product are from Hitachi, and have self cleaning system and can do whatever function that Kangen water can do also.
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QUOTE(ccy16 @ Aug 28 2015, 11:02 AM) Hi all, i am a newbie here. Thinking of want to buy ionizer system. But there are too many brands in the market, for like panasonic, alkalife , AO, Kangen also. My friend has bought kangen but it cost RM12,000. I came across ioniser from Bacfree and it cost around RM9500++. May i know which is better? and Have you all heard about the ioniser system from Bacfree? They claimed that the product are from Hitachi, and have self cleaning system and can do whatever function that Kangen water can do also. Why don't you pay me RM500, I educate you on what is best to use, i.e. non-ionizing, and help you save >RM10K.Please help. |
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QUOTE(mists29 @ Aug 23 2015, 03:07 PM) my dad installed an alkaline water machine few months ago (not cheap oh..), first week of drinking my bro sakit perut 2-3 times. Our family have no idea whether we are drinking it right or not, then we have been told by my friend's dad says alkaline water makes your stomach hard to digest food, becoz the gastric juice are acidic and alkaline water neutralize it. but after we still decided stop using it and purchased a purifier, ok what, still alive. I actually got eczema problem and some info in the website claim that alkaline water can cure it. Installed a rubine alkaline machine (got it free from my supplier) at home for 6 months but no improvement. My mom had diarrhea after drinking it, salesman says it is good as it is helping to detox and ask her to try lower PH level for stomach to get use to it. After doing some research online, most alkaline machine only provide one membrane cartridge filter which is 0.1 micron. Just a 0.1 micron membrane filter is not sufficient to filter off all the contaminants, even RO water which is the purest water with 0.0001 micron need to be used together with a carbon block filter. So, how clean is the alkaline water ? ? ?PS: I didn't mention any brand and I'm NOT trying to defame or promote any brand(later kena complain), just my personal situation, but I'm fine to tell u privately :LOL Copied from http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/reverse...osis-water.html "While reverse osmosis is effective for removing a variety of contaminants in water, the reverse osmosis membrane alone does NOT remove volatile organic chemical (VOCs), chlorine and chloramines, pharmaceuticals, and a host of other synthetic chemicals found in municipal water. However, some R.O. systems now have multi-stage filtration media (in addition to the R.O. membrane), such as Activated Carbon, which does remove chlorine and certain pesticides." There are still debates on alkaline water is good and some say no good, there is no 100% conclusion and as mention it is still a myth. I tried and it doesnt improve my family's health bt instead mom got diarrhea. From another website mentioned there are two types of alkaline water, ionized alkaline water which is from the alkaline machine and natural alkaline water (mineral water). Natural minerals in our water is alkaline, when water picks up more mineral the higher the pH level, hence more alkaline. So, drinking water with high pH means your water has a lot of good minerals in it and it is good for our body. However, the ionized alkaline water produced by alkaline machine does not add in minerals to it and our body will automatically regulate the pH level by producing more acid to neutralize the alkaline water, so i guess there wont be any health benefit to it. From my experience, most important is to drink more CLEAN water as we wont know how the little contaminants in our water could affect us in the future, it might not be harmful now but after 5 years or more you might only start to see the side effect. Unless you have some kinda of sickness or skin problem like me, you can give it a try. This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 15 2015, 05:40 PM |
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QUOTE(ccy16 @ Aug 28 2015, 11:02 AM) Hi all, i am a newbie here. Thinking of want to buy ionizer system. But there are too many brands in the market, for like panasonic, alkalife , AO, Kangen also. My friend has bought kangen but it cost RM12,000. I came across ioniser from Bacfree and it cost around RM9500++. May i know which is better? and Have you all heard about the ioniser system from Bacfree? They claimed that the product are from Hitachi, and have self cleaning system and can do whatever function that Kangen water can do also. Hi there, I've recently bought a tyent https://www.tyentusa.com/water-ionizers/cou...er-ionizer.html based on the referrals from relatives who are doctors. They also did a review here https://www.btrendie.com/alkaline-water-ionizer-machine/Please help. Ada |
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QUOTE(adasan @ Jan 12 2017, 07:17 PM) Hi there, I've recently bought a tyent https://www.tyentusa.com/water-ionizers/cou...er-ionizer.html based on the referrals from relatives who are doctors. They also did a review here https://www.btrendie.com/alkaline-water-ionizer-machine/ Your relatives just get few hundred bucks referral fees from your ionizer water Ada Your body become acidic only when you are sick. Your body have its own natural pH balancing mechanism. If you desperate to boost alkaline level, get from fruits & veges, not by ionizing water. This post has been edited by oyching88: Jan 15 2017, 01:03 AM |
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I saw there are 1 drain hose beside the main hose. What are the purposes for the water come out from this drain hose? Isn't it waste more water?
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I have been drinking Kangen water for 6 months, and it cured my constipation problem. Used to take fiber for 10 years but after drinking Kangen water i do not take fiber anymore. Not only that, i particularly like the PH11.5 from the machine which can effectively dissolve oil based pesticides, it just functions like the vege wash you see in the market now.
Although the price of the machine is steep, but i did not hesitate to purchase it after seeing two real testimonial from my friend's sister and colleague's husband. One is diabetes index dropped from 12 to 7, another is helping to lower high cholestrol and high BP (diagnosed as high stroke risk and hospitalised). Some say our body will neutralise harmful acidity, but after i study more about how food and lifestyle nowadays lead to more chronic diseases, i believe drinking ionized alkaline water is good to health. There are always different thoughts and even research results are contradictory with each other. After all, it's based on which one you believe This post has been edited by Amsie: May 8 2017, 12:24 PM |
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Oct 3 2015, 12:42 AM) I actually got eczema problem and some info in the website claim that alkaline water can cure it. Installed a rubine alkaline machine (got it free from my supplier) at home for 6 months but no improvement. My mom had diarrhea after drinking it, salesman says it is good as it is helping to detox and ask her to try lower PH level for stomach to get use to it. After doing some research online, most alkaline machine only provide one membrane cartridge filter which is 0.1 micron. Just a 0.1 micron membrane filter is not sufficient to filter off all the contaminants, even RO water which is the purest water with 0.0001 micron need to be used together with a carbon block filter. So, how clean is the alkaline water ? ? ? One can also balance the acidity in the body by eating foods which will become alkaline after going through the digestive process. Copied from http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/reverse...osis-water.html "While reverse osmosis is effective for removing a variety of contaminants in water, the reverse osmosis membrane alone does NOT remove volatile organic chemical (VOCs), chlorine and chloramines, pharmaceuticals, and a host of other synthetic chemicals found in municipal water. However, some R.O. systems now have multi-stage filtration media (in addition to the R.O. membrane), such as Activated Carbon, which does remove chlorine and certain pesticides." There are still debates on alkaline water is good and some say no good, there is no 100% conclusion and as mention it is still a myth. I tried and it doesnt improve my family's health bt instead mom got diarrhea. From another website mentioned there are two types of alkaline water, ionized alkaline water which is from the alkaline machine and natural alkaline water (mineral water). Natural minerals in our water is alkaline, when water picks up more mineral the higher the pH level, hence more alkaline. So, drinking water with high pH means your water has a lot of good minerals in it and it is good for our body. However, the ionized alkaline water produced by alkaline machine does not add in minerals to it and our body will automatically regulate the pH level by producing more acid to neutralize the alkaline water, so i guess there wont be any health benefit to it. From my experience, most important is to drink more CLEAN water as we wont know how the little contaminants in our water could affect us in the future, it might not be harmful now but after 5 years or more you might only start to see the side effect. Unless you have some kinda of sickness or skin problem like me, you can give it a try. Contrary to popular belief, alkaline and acidity has nothing to do with the stomach acid which is always acidic. It is rather the blood plasma alkaline balance which is important. Naturally, our blood is alkaline due to mineral trace content; and since our body is very smart; thus if we are always in acidic condition (due to unhealthy eating habits); the body will start taking the minerals from other areas of the body (organs, skin, bones) to ensure that the alkaline balance is maintained. This is when we fall sick often or have other inflammatory prone disease like cancer. Just google up and find alkaline food, and you can get a lot of information. If you have a lot of cash to spare, then probably investing in quality nutritional supplement will be a much better choice than just spending on water filters with "magical" cures. My 2cents This post has been edited by dayalan86: May 9 2017, 03:31 PM |
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QUOTE(Amsie @ May 8 2017, 12:23 PM) I have been drinking Kangen water for 6 months, and it cured my constipation problem. Used to take fiber for 10 years but after drinking Kangen water i do not take fiber anymore. Not only that, i particularly like the PH11.5 from the machine which can effectively dissolve oil based pesticides, it just functions like the vege wash you see in the market now. I have no idea why Kangen water filter is priced almost 2 to 3 times more than a competing commercially available Japanese branded machine.Although the price of the machine is steep, but i did not hesitate to purchase it after seeing two real testimonial from my friend's sister and colleague's husband. One is diabetes index dropped from 12 to 7, another is helping to lower high cholestrol and high BP (diagnosed as high stroke risk and hospitalised). Some say our body will neutralise harmful acidity, but after i study more about how food and lifestyle nowadays lead to more chronic diseases, i believe drinking ionized alkaline water is good to health. There are always different thoughts and even research results are contradictory with each other. After all, it's based on which one you believe However, I am glad that it works for you. Hopefully, Kangen can publish some scientific hard evidence on their claims; as the company itself came back saying the claims were only made by those who used them and they are not standing by it. http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...ut-kangen-water |
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our body will automatically, regulate the pH level, unless we have some organ failing and unable to balance the pH then may be drinking alkaline water could help. If your blood pH level is below 7.35 or higher than 7.45, you could die .......
Copied from : http://drbenkim.com/ph-body-blood-foods-acid-alkaline.htm Is it true that the foods and beverages you consume cause your blood to become more alkaline or acidic? Contrary to popular hype, the answer is: not to any significant degree. The pH of your blood is tightly regulated by a complex system of buffers that are continuously at work to maintain a range of 7.35 to 7.45, which is slightly more alkaline than pure water. If the pH of your blood falls below 7.35, the result is a condition called acidosis, a state that leads to central nervous system depression. Severe acidosis - where blood pH falls below 7.00 - can lead to a coma and even death. If the pH of your blood rises above 7.45, the result is alkalosis. Severe alkalosis can also lead to death, but through a different mechanism; alkalosis causes all of the nerves in your body to become hypersensitive and over-excitable, often resulting in muscle spasms, nervousness, and convulsions; it's usually the convulsions that cause death in severe cases. This post has been edited by zheilwane: May 10 2017, 04:34 PM |
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ May 9 2017, 03:49 PM) I have no idea why Kangen water filter is priced almost 2 to 3 times more than a competing commercially available Japanese branded machine. Kangen is priced higher simply because it needs to price in its MLM scheme. There are several other better water ionizers out there. Below is a good link to compare the different ionizers' performance and quality. I am using the one by AlkaViva for the last 2 years, hassle-free maintenance...However, I am glad that it works for you. Hopefully, Kangen can publish some scientific hard evidence on their claims; as the company itself came back saying the claims were only made by those who used them and they are not standing by it. http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...ut-kangen-water https://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons/ https://www.facebook.com/AlkaVivaSGMY/video...18698941901540/ |
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QUOTE(Yogii @ Sep 1 2017, 12:26 AM) Kangen is priced higher simply because it needs to price in its MLM scheme. There are several other better water ionizers out there. Below is a good link to compare the different ionizers' performance and quality. I am using the one by AlkaViva for the last 2 years, hassle-free maintenance... And Alkaviva is also a MLM company, RM 9k for a water filter? Are you kidding? https://www.alkalinewaterplus.com/water-ionizer-comparisons/ https://www.facebook.com/AlkaVivaSGMY/video...18698941901540/ |
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First it was RO water.....now its alkaline water. All this is nothing more than a hype. My body gets it alkaline from the green vegs i eat. No need this overpriced marketing hype. Especially kangen which sells for rm12K per unit. The equipment itself only cost not even a quarter of that price. Its being marked up bcos its a MLM kinda thingy. Some people are getting rich though.
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"Blood pH has to be tightly regulated between pH 7.35 and 7.45 as enzymes which facilitate the biological processes in our cells can only function within this narrow pH range. A series of physiological mechanisms are present in the body to regulate the blood pH so it stays within this range. For instance, any excess in acid or alkaline in your blood is simply filtered out by your kidneys to be excreted in your urine. This explains why the pH of your urine can fluctuate after consuming certain food or drinks but this is by no means a true reflection of your overall bodily pH."
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QUOTE(StrOmGaLD @ Aug 27 2015, 02:01 PM) I have to agree to colinwong89 & ricstc I also highly recommend Kevin too. My mom has high blood pressure and my dad had diabetes, have been using ionized alkaline water machine for one week, will report back after a month. There's practically no harm in getting to know much more about our waters further instead of brushing it off. I went through Kevin Wong 012-6279196 and he was the only consultant that could explain and answer all my questions which I wanted to know. This also ended my 3 month research as all was clarified within a setting. I invited him for a visit at my place and it was probably the best thing I did throughout my research on alkaline water and went for the Alkalife Lydia 9 Turbo right after. Its pretty easy to understand as Kevin will try to explain as layman as possible. Besides that, I find that its good for the whole family to be in the know too. I'll strongly recommend, Kevin Wong to anyone looking for one. He's quite busy from what I was told, better to set up an appointment earlier to match your favorite timing. Exactly colinwong89, you put it rightly, he does know the hard facts. Getting to know something much more in detail makes it easy to make a right decision |
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