my copy just arrive from tsb, the weird thing is i did't need to enter the gwfl key to play chaos rising online

Thanks Cheese, i wasnt aware of the DRM too.. These guys are Effin' ARSE!
How does the DRM counted? I didn't know that and i uninstalled in few times and installed in back on just to do some cleaning on my hard drive. What The Hell? 

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57111
According to this, does this mean if we buy it from steam, there's no limit?

if we get it from steam should be okie right? lol.. yes. GFWL suck! i won't buy any more games from them cept DOW.

Cheese, what issue you are getting?

I'm also having trouble understanding how this works.  AFAIK Chaos rising uses non-SSA keys which means the game is not tied in to a specific gamertag and after all its already tied into steam. 

In my Steam account, DOW2 is counted as a "free purchase"Since the retail cd-key is already stored by steam doesn't that mean it doesn't have to ask for authentication everytime you need to redownload it again?

I hope they removed it after 1 or 2 years like Mass Effect 1.

After that, I doubt people want to pirate those games by then.

http://www.destructoid.com/dawn-of-war-ii-...ks-120813.phtml

According to the source above, we can install as many times as we want.

Here's a quickie for all of you who are obsessed with DRM (and rightfully so): Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II is going to use Steamworks as its game authentication of choice.

At the price of having to run Steam to play Dawn of War II -- which isn't really a bad thing, in comparison to other forms of DRM -- you'll get a slew of benefits.

"Gamers who purchase the game and register with Steam can install the game on as many PCs as they want, can play online or offline and no CD is required to play. Best of all, if the player ever loses the CD, the game can be downloaded for free from Steam," says lead designer Jonny Ebbert"

This is confusing     

Someone should just send Tyranids to Microsoft, Relic and THQ office.

Well, if i get this, i definitely will mail them to do something about it else will sue them for having false advertising. Did that once to PC Gamer. and i got bunch of expansion packs from PC Gamer.com.my lol .. 

http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/topic/38146

developer quote and an end user who also talks about reinstalling at least 20 times.

Now this is even more confusing..       
So there is or there isn't? Can't they just freaking make an announcement through the game??

it was sad, where all player gone~

did they reliease they can play cross over with chaos rising expansion player? (not campagin ofcourse)
- LAst stand
-Mp mode

Actually we do, i just updated it yesterday. I still play the game but i just wish they fix the melee in this game. Once your pinned down Tyranids are easy kills. Same goes to anything that can't fire a gun. Ill get Chaos rising once they start to have the sale thing for it. by then the next expansion would be coming out too. Im hoping for Tau and Imperial next.

So you can use Chaos now as well as play its campaign?
Eh, Ive been able to take out Chaos and Eldar but some how it takes some effort....freaking hour long games sometimes...

Hey guys,

I am really happy to see that, for the most part, the balance of Chaos Rising has been well received. We understand there are a few things sticking out that are ruining the fun for some players so we set out to address those right after Chaos Rising went live.

I'd like to share with you a preview of the 2.2 balance patch notes for CR. Please remember that these are on-going, being tested and may not represent the final patch. I, however, can say that they are fairly comprehensive of the issues we want to address in 2.2. Also please note that other changes unrelated to balance will not be represented in this list.

2.2 Balance Patch Notes (WIP)

Chaos

-        - Inferno Bolters damage has been reduced from 39 to 35

-        - Chaos Predator max speed increased to 5.7 from 5.2

-        - Chaos Lord has had his armour type changed from Heavy Infantry to Commander

-        - Removed melee resistance from the Bloodcrusher

-        - Increased the in combat ranged modifier to 1 from 0.5 for the Bloodcrusher

-        - Bloodcrusher size has been changed to Large from Huge



Space Marines

-        - Predator Tank max speed increased to 5.7 from 5.2

-        - Assault Terminators with Storm Hammers and Thunder Shield

o  Increased damage to 90 from 75

o  Increased special attack damage to 67 from 65

-        - Assault Terminators with Lightning Claws

o  Change damage type from Melee Heavy to Power Melee

o  Decrease damage to 70 from 95

o  Decrease special attack damage to 57 from 72

o  Decrease splash damage to 12 from 20

o  Removed additional 360 degree damage (20) from special attack

-        - Force Commander Terminator Lightning Claws

o  Change damage type from Melee Heavy to Power Melee

o  Decrease damage to 70 from 100

o  Decrease special attack damage to 57 from 72

o  Decrease splash damage to 12 from 20

o  Removed additional 360 degree damage (20) from special attack

-        - Librarian’s Smite ability will no longer sometimes instantly cooldown after firing



Eldar

-        - Fire Prism max speed increased to 5 from 4.5

-        - Wraithguard can no longer fire on the move

-        - Shuriken Cannon Guardian HP has been reduced to 225 from 275 per member



Orks

-        - Looted Tank max speed increased to 5.5 from 5



Tyranids

-        - Ravener Tunnel HP has been reduced to 175 from 250



Bug Fixes

-        - Bloodcrusher now has appropriate upkeep cost

-        - Stikkbomb_pvp damage type has been modified to damage units in buildings

-        - Plague Marine Champion death explosion will no longer hurt invulnerable units

-        - Force Commander and Assault Terminator lightning claw special attack changed from a 0.5 second sweep to an instant pie attack.

-        - Ravener Alpha no longer reduces his AV damage modifier by re-equipping the corrosive devourer multiple times

-        - The received range damage modifier while fleet of foot is active on a Banshee squad with an Exarch is now exclusive and will no longer stack with other received range damage modifiers

-        - The received range damage modifier from Distortion field is now exclusive and will no longer stack with other received range damage modifiers
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I got a question: if u have the original DOW n do not have the expansion Soulstorm, Dark Crusade and Winter Assault can u still play online with other players that now probably have all these expansions?

Nice avatar cheese.

You need to be chaos.

Oh btw, anyone know where i can see unlocks for all races from rank1-rank60 in matchmaking? (wiki or something?) cant seem to find.

Man its kinda boring that no1 really discusses the Ranked games part of DOW2.....they are still fun to play >_<