Well, Space Marine don't take cover as far as I know. They are an army of Chuck Norris.

Nope, Retribution is standalone, because it dumped the useless GFWL which is a good thing. It is not backwards compatible.

The captain looks badass. I want the DLC.

Well, thats how the game industry works today.

Gone are the days where you buy a game and thats it. Now, every game you buy, there is a very high chance that DLCs will come too.

I got my Dark Angels DLC for free, so it isnt that bad in this case. The Last Stand DLC, i'll probably buy later on.

I wont recommend the Dark Angels DLC, it's just skins, even though some of the units do look badass in normal MP. Unless you are a hardcore Dark Angles fan, i wont recommend it.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jun 2 2011, 07:12 PM

Yeap.

Still cant get the TLS gear. Damnit.

Hell no, Men of War is a good game, but also an incredibly annoying one, as it's like rolling a dice every second. There are too many random elements in the game that is very annoying.

I actually wanted DoW3 that is just Company of Heroes in space, or reskined CoH with Warhammer 40k stuff. Along with the consistent MMO-like metamap campaign mode for multiplayer. Typical ranked will still be in the game.

I dont think i'll play it if the units needs to have their own munition. There are a lot of units, and at the same time, you need to manage the munitions.

I rather have base building back than, munitions management.

The overly done randomness and munitions management really put me off from playing MoW. It's good, but it's not fun micromanaging all these things.

Give back base building, like CoH, then have a bit more vehicle focused combat with a meta map online campaign, DoW3 would be perfect. Suppression should work more like CoH which CoH have a bit of a morale bar.

Orks should have looting mechanism.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jun 18 2011, 12:32 AM

Nah, i really dont enjoy MoW at all, except in co-op, but i dont play co-op a lot.

Putting some of the MoW elements in DoW3 would be a deal breaker, especially the munitions and the excess randomness. Also the extreme side of hard counter.

The game wont be focused on hard counters or unit composition. Instead, just destroying your opponents munition source and hope they run out of ammo. Thats not fun as the game lies a lot on the extreme side of things.

Sure, tanks die in 2 shots of missile launcher is realistic, but that not fun at all, as this is a game. Not warfare simulator, where MoW is. A balance of fun and realism has to be made.

Give back Listening Post to prevent ninja capping, while having improved destruction capabilities of Essence engine. The DoW2's unique commander system should not be in the sequel, as it is getting tough to learn the game as there are more and more heroes and spell combination to learn. Also, not forgetting some combinations are nasty in team games and also difficult to balance. A CoH like tech tree system would be perfect though.

The vehicle destruction should be more to MoW, where MoW had a very detailed system, without all the randomness in it. I like it as you can bits of a vehicle destroyed, with is quite fun, especially the weaker back armor feature to promote flanking. Dont think DoW2's one is actually working as well as CoH's one.

DoW3 should have a larger scale and some base building, more to what CoH has now. Thats all it needs.

A combination of DoW1/2 and CoH is the best. It has to be Steam integrated, as i probably had more fun playing Relic games now than on Gamespy or GFWL.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jun 18 2011, 05:42 PM

They did screw up DoW2 at the beginning until Elbert left to Blizzard.

Nuu, why is it not CoH2?

There is also a Tyranid pack too, that is coming on the same day for FREE.

I want that Tau Commander.

He looks really really fun to play.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 15 2011, 10:38 AM

DoW2 Retribution does not use GFWL anymore.

DoW2 and CR has dead MP, unless you have friends to play with or dont mind playing through the story solo, dont get the game. And you have to deal with the wreck called GFWL.

I doubt Retribution has an active multiplayer considering most Relic has either moved to CoH2 or back to CoH1. The SP campaign is good though.

Because GFWL is a hassle to use. Even registering it is a pain in the ass while the net code of GFWL is terrible.

Might as well get Retribution and coop with him in Last Stand mode.

You can find DoW2 and CR at the Steam store. Dont really recommend it as Retribution is a far better game.