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post Sep 16 2010, 08:38 AM

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Good news, my brothers.

THQ has got their heads around,where they have decided to drop GFWL as a whole in DoW2:Retribution and Space Marine.

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THQ drops Games For Windows Live from multiple games

Publisher THQ (and developer Relic) will not include Microsoft's much-maligned Games For Windows Live tech for its forthcoming Warhammer 40,000 titles.


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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010...-multiple-games
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/15...l-in-40k-games/

I'll pre-order Retribution then, as the terrible GFWL is gone.

Now, hopefully Codemaster will also drop this terrible system.
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post Sep 16 2010, 04:27 PM

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Seriously, im so happy now because they are gonna remove GFWL. It's very unexpected in a way that THQ have gone to the point of scrapping a huge chunk of their game, and replace it with new codes. I dont think many companies will do that, especially for a 2 year old project.

Relic have been extremely dedicated in fixing the game and fixed pretty much everything that is imba, broken or bad, except GFWL. They even gone to the point of reprograming their awesome unit AI to fulfill competitive gamer's request, as they are very annoyed with the dancing problem.

Im gonna say, hats down for THQ for willing to do a drastic measure to improve the game tremendously.

Whatever they replace with will definitely be better than that.

DoW2: Retribution is gonna be great, if they keep up with their patching standards.
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post Sep 16 2010, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Sep 16 2010, 04:55 PM)
Yar, it's quite a bold move for a license that has been using GWFL already (DOW2), implying rewriting portions of the code to use the new Steamwork etc.
It's not huge change I think but still something another company might not have bothered and simply would have milked the license.
I am sure there were some hard negotiations with Microsoft also about it.

And yes, the patching work done on DoW2 was pretty good overall, stuff like Last Stand for free (they could have charged 10usd for it by today's standard...)

And GWFL was one of main issues for lots of people, matchmaking with it sucks hard apparently and having to log into Steam and a GFWL was pretty stupid overall
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I think it's a very bold move, as DoW2 is already 2 years old. Typical developers wont bother doing so, rather than bringing DoW3 without GFWL.

GFWL have countless issues. It has to be removed.
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post Sep 20 2010, 06:48 PM

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Seems like Relic made Retribution seems as if like a F**k You to GFWL.
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post Sep 28 2010, 02:29 PM

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post Oct 19 2010, 06:29 AM

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Give me Inquisition army and i'll be happy.
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:52 PM

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Well they wanted to give you the voice in your head sort of feeling.

At the same time, you are also getting communication interception of other races when you are playing as Nids.
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post Nov 5 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 5 2010, 02:38 PM)
In business like software dev....Steam is a Competitor to GFWL....

The most obvious answer is because slowly no one (like Developrs/Publishers) will use that crappy client Microsoft developed.....which means slowly they won't have business anymore and eventually get abandon by Microsoft overall..

On the other hand.....GFWL is a fairly new client for the PC....so they really need strong titles to support thier client....losing someone THQ is a heavy hit to thier I.P as well as thier list of supported games on GFWL.

Those discussions are probably in regards to how GFWL client can further improve thier services towards THQ and thier DEVs, I doubt that its a very clean move from GFWL to Steam. Lots of head smacking for sure lol
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I wont say GFWL is new, as it has been here for some time.

Just that Microsoft have been too busy improving XBox LIVE while leaving their GFWL to rot. It has evolved from a decent thing(like cross platform) to an abomination when Microsoft tries to improve it with useless and dumb ideas. Instead they leave GFWL to rot, and let their competitors like Steam to improve and get ahead of GFWL. Steam is a much better system, despite it's short comings.

I do hope THQ will dump GFWL in all their future games. Next one would be Codemaster as the abomination have ruined their racing games a lot too.

I'll buy Retribution and Space Marine if both of them has no GFWL.

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post Dec 27 2010, 05:36 PM

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Imperial Guard is confirmed.

Baneblade, Basilisk and Leman Russ tank is also confirmed. IG has 8 units only.

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FML.

I hope Relic is trolling with me.

EDIT: My heart sinks even further. sad.gif


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post Dec 27 2010, 06:08 PM

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Imperial Guard is confirmed.

Baneblade, Basilisk and Leman Russ tank is also confirmed. IG has 8 units only.

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Video:



FML.

I hope Relic is trolling with me.

EDIT: My heart sinks even further. sad.gif

EDIT2: My heart sinks even even more.

Baneblade's main canon and co-axial cannon can be only used as a ability only.

It's practically a huge tank with lots of bolters and las cannon only. Without using the abilities. It's balanced, but there are so many tanks out there, why this one?

I gonna find my DoW1 and relive the awesome baneblade there.

Seriously, if Relic went with a real Inquisition army, they have even more choices of units, as they have access to IG and SM armory,also the Inquisition exclusive units.

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post Dec 27 2010, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(dazealot @ Dec 27 2010, 06:52 PM)
Baneblade, Baneblade! But this is the first time I've heard of any Leman Russ tank, is that really his tank?
Also, the footage shows an orbital bombardment onto the planet crust, so maybe SM wants to destroy the place for some reason.
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If im not wrong, it's named after him, because Leman Russ helped to defend the forge world that made the tank.
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post Jan 6 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(edloh2k @ Jan 6 2011, 07:19 PM)
Hi, i'm new in this forum,

i have few question & problem to ask, hope u guys can help me out.

1) i have chaos rising but i cannot update. why like this de ? btw i just update my steam client to the latest still cannot update my chaos rising .

2) my chaos rising didn't come with steam, only windows live .

thks.
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It's pirated because it doesnt have Steam.
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post Jan 6 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(dazealot @ Jan 6 2011, 10:32 PM)
Is CR a Steamworks game? I'm quite confused
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CR is a Steamworks game.

If you dont have Steam, it's pirated then.
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post Jan 8 2011, 08:35 AM

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Gonna get CE. Just to support Relic's extremely brave change.
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:44 AM

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I just find the CE box so badass. Just take it la. biggrin.gif

Hopefully got free Retribution shirt too.

If not, i think Chaos pack la.
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post Jan 8 2011, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(acesnip3r @ Jan 8 2011, 10:11 AM)
Too right mate....but if its not available here just talk to this guy he can help u order stuffs from the US (by stuffs from the US i mean stuff that's only available for US residents only)

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&hl=video+games
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Nah, i prefer to get it myself.

Australia should have it, worst come to worst.
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post Jan 8 2011, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jan 8 2011, 06:47 PM)
the wargears, besides purchasing there are no other method to gain it in game eh?
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Yes, you can still get those Wargear as DLC for a small fee after release.

QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jan 8 2011, 07:18 PM)
I was wondering why DoW2 never meet the success SC2 is getting considering Relic has been so active in patching the game and providing improvements consistently to the community, heck even the campaign has a awesome story compared to SC2's silly space drama. It just angers me that they never get recognition for it  vmad.gif
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Because everyone thinks Starcraft is the best RTS ever, and Relic dont have as much money and time as Blizzard to polish their game till it shines.
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post Jan 10 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(acesnip3r @ Jan 10 2011, 07:26 AM)
i cant w8 for warhammer 40K space marine cuz u are actually using a space marine.....but i'm also anxious for retributions release cuz we finally can use the puny guardsmen XD
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I hope this time, Relic actually get it right. The IG in dow1 isn't exactly IG to the fluff.

If you played the Steel Legion mod, I think the modders version is much better.
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post Jan 10 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(acesnip3r @ Jan 10 2011, 09:34 AM)
yea i played the steel legion mod...the IG in the steel legion mod is much better than the ones that...relic..made...eh i just dunno wat to call the unmoded IG
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The DoW1 ones are called Cadian Regiment.

They are 2 different ones, as i remembered that Cadians are more infantry heavy and they use Karskins, instead of storm troopers. The reason it doesnt feel IG to me is there isnt much tanks or fortifications. I think Relic did well in terms of how weak Guardsman is. They really die like scissors cutting paper.

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post Jan 14 2011, 12:27 PM

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New units for existing races are all announced:

Chaos: Noise Marine
Tyranid: Swarm Lord
Space Marines: Land Raider Redeemer
Eldar: Autrach
Orks: Battlewagon

Units confirmed for IG:
Guardsman
Stormtroopers
Sentinel
Leman Russ Tank
Manticore
Heavy Weapons Team (sort off)

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