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post Jan 28 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 28 2010, 02:41 PM)
clivengu: No, an A100 with F42 mounted cannot trigger an off-camera F42 in TTL (unless there is an optical slave trigger attached to the bottom of the off-camera F42) but then it would not be working in TTL anymore.

To prove your point, I would suggest having a picture where the A100 + F42 is looking at a mirror. The off-camera F42 then exposes its flash foot to the camera to show no optical slave triggers. The picture would show the A100 + F42 and the off-camera F42, with their wide-angle panels pulled out, to show that it does light up.

Understandably there are times you think it triggered but it actually did not as the flashes can be confusing.

Let me go through this again:

Minolta 7 (film) - can use the F56 to trigger off-camera flashes (this is why there is that option but the protocol was not supported with digital bodies)
KM5D/KM7D/A100-A550 - can only use the pop-up flash to trigger the F36, F56, F42 and F58 off camera
A700 - can use the pop-up flash or F58 on camera, to trigger the F42 and F58 off camera
A850/A900 - can use the F20 or F58 on camera, to trigger the F36, F56, F42 and F58 off camera
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ah, noted~ then more reason for me to go for used a700 or wait for a7x0 now~ tongue.gif

QUOTE(craziqbal @ Jan 28 2010, 02:42 PM)
nope, only using the built in flash on your A200 can trigger off camera flashes (F36/F56/F42/F58)

but hey, do get the F58, then you can do wireless with multiple flashes!!
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i know~ but i tot getting the f58 for bounce flash on camera with f42 off camera mar~ biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2010, 03:27 PM

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Gouki: You can still have one flash bounce from nearly the camera's position while having one other flash off-camera - you just need a flash bracket.

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Note where the F42 is? That's where you can have the F58, beside your A200. The F42 goes off-camera.

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post Jan 28 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 28 2010, 03:27 PM)
Gouki: You can still have one flash bounce from nearly the camera's position while having one other flash off-camera - you just need a flash bracket.
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Note where the F42 is? That's where you can have the F58, beside your A200. The F42 goes off-camera.
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adui~ i tot on the hot shoe mar without custom bracket~ lol~ tongue.gif
but aint the pop-up flash will have direct flash fill on the subject? unsure.gif

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post Jan 28 2010, 04:31 PM

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Sony mount lenses no 58mm diameter threads right? I found a Cokin +4 close up filter at home. Gonna sell it. LOL!
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Gouki: Not a big deal if you're using 2 flashes.

Kul | MoO: You can get a step-up or step-down ring but it would be quite pointless. The only A-mount lens I can think of with a 58mm filter thread is the Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO Macro 1:2x (which is pointless since it gets gear stripping.)
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jan 28 2010, 11:53 AM)
Anyone using windows7 64bit and able to install Sony Pictures Utility?

I have tried download and install the softwares in my newly installed win7 but after the installation.. everytime i restart my pc.. it will start up at WINDOWS SYSTEM RECOVERY... and windows unable to fix the problem and I couldnt start start my windows.

The only way to fix this is to do a system restore to the time b4 the sony picture utility is installed.. At first i Thought is the version provided with my A700 is too old.. but after i try installed the latest version from the sony website.. the problem remains...

I know this not exactly d right thread to ask.. but just like to ask if any1 encounter d same problem? or could be my other software problem?
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Hmm.. sounds like a driver issue. Just so happens I'm also on Win7 64 bit. I'll go home and install it and let you know how it turns out.
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 28 2010, 11:54 AM)
lwliam: how is the progress for the outing so far? no news already...

Added on January 28, 2010, 11:57 am

clivengu: try installing virtualbox...then install a fresh copy of windows7 then install sony utility to see if works fine...if it does...then ur other software is the 1 giving problem...

p.s: this if i understand correctly that u upgrade to windows7 from ur previous OS
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i tried to asked ppl, but no one replied also..

i was wondering to make the outing on the saturday of CNY, 20th Feb?

any takers?
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if u have the budget, would you go for 85mm Z or 70200mm G? unsure.gif
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Hmm... where DO I go download the Image Data Suite 64bit For Vista?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 28 2010, 02:41 PM)
clivengu: No, an A100 with F42 mounted cannot trigger an off-camera F42 in TTL (unless there is an optical slave trigger attached to the bottom of the off-camera F42) but then it would not be working in TTL anymore.

To prove your point, I would suggest having a picture where the A100 + F42 is looking at a mirror. The off-camera F42 then exposes its flash foot to the camera to show no optical slave triggers. The picture would show the A100 + F42 and the off-camera F42, with their wide-angle panels pulled out, to show that it does light up.

Understandably there are times you think it triggered but it actually did not as the flashes can be confusing.

Let me go through this again:

Minolta 7 (film) - can use the F56 to trigger off-camera flashes (this is why there is that option but the protocol was not supported with digital bodies)
KM5D/KM7D/A100-A550 - can only use the pop-up flash to trigger the F36, F56, F42 and F58 off camera
A700 - can use the pop-up flash or F58 on camera, to trigger the F42 and F58 off camera
A850/A900 - can use the F20 or F58 on camera, to trigger the F36, F56, F42 and F58 off camera
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oic... i think i must have using the popup flash to trigger two F42 instead and not using the F42 to trigger d other... doh.gif Is been quite a long time since i can play multiple flashes with my friend (now lari to sg oredi) my mistake tongue.gif
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QUOTE(signither @ Jan 28 2010, 04:46 PM)
if u have the budget, would you go for 85mm Z or 70200mm G? unsure.gif
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depends on ur usage bro...wat is ur main intention?
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signither : I would go for the G. (:

albnok : Sell to those Canon kitlens users la then! (: What price to put ar? XD
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Cokin is branded yo. The Hoya +4 goes for around RM50 or less.
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Hahaha extra Rm50 for cleaning up my room also good la. (: Dono why got COKIN filter at home also. LOL.
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guys, since i've got an asker, so i wanna collect opinions, 20th Feb 2010 outing, where you guys/girls suggest we make it for a one day trip?
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 28 2010, 05:05 PM)
guys, since i've got an asker, so i wanna collect opinions, 20th Feb 2010 outing, where you guys/girls suggest we make it for a one day trip?
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lwliam: maybe a list with details will be a good startup...include my name in it smile.gif
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Date: 20th Feb 2010 outing

Location: meet up in the morning in PJ/KL for breakfast, then shoot off to where ever is chosen.

Need volunteer drivers if more than 4 person (petrol and toll will be divided equally as usual)

Include your suggested place next to your name if you have any.

1. William (Broga - but will need to gather super early)
2. finejava
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Date: 20th Feb 2010 outing

Location: meet up in the morning in PJ/KL for breakfast, then shoot off to where ever is chosen.

Need volunteer drivers if more than 4 person (petrol and toll will be divided equally as usual)

Include your suggested place next to your name if you have any.

1. William (Broga - but will need to gather super early)
2. finejava
3. Mo0
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QUOTE(signither @ Jan 28 2010, 04:46 PM)
if u have the budget, would you go for 85mm Z or 70200mm G? unsure.gif
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i will go for 85z...due to its size and weight, and f/1.4

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:12 PM)
Date: 20th Feb 2010 outing

Location: meet up in the morning in PJ/KL for breakfast, then shoot off to where ever is chosen.

Need volunteer drivers if more than 4 person (petrol and toll will be divided equally as usual)

Include your suggested place next to your name if you have any.

1. William (Broga - but will need to gather super early)
2. finejava
3. Mo0
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just pass by tongue.gif and give some suggestion.

try shoot this: http://www.fgs.org.my/cny2010/eng/main_eng.htm
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