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 Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400, need some advice

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hathayoga
post Feb 1 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(pgf501 @ Jan 30 2010, 10:40 AM)
just wanna ask some opinion.

planning to buy 40EX400 with rm3499.

is this a good deal?
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Yes it is...anything less than 3799 is a good deal.
Zeld4
post Feb 1 2010, 06:30 PM

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anyone know what's the response time and refresh rate for this Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400, planned to use it mainly for PC Gaming, FPS genre, hope it's quite fast and can provide smooth movement required to aim precisely at instant. Can't find any website mentioning these important infos at tech spec.

also, does the lcd suffer from color banding ? I read 10 bit LCD panel should get rid of color banding, which is good, hope it's stuffed with 10 bit oledi.

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one more thing, how Bravia Engine 3 handles SD input such as Nintendo Wii ? can it eliminate jaggies well, or am I expecting too much lol biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Zeld4: Feb 1 2010, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Zeld4 @ Feb 1 2010, 06:30 PM)
anyone know what's the response time and refresh rate for this Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400, planned to use it mainly for PC Gaming, FPS genre, hope it's quite fast and can provide smooth movement required to aim precisely at instant. Can't find any website mentioning these important infos at tech spec.

also, does the lcd suffer from color banding ? I read 10 bit LCD panel should get rid of color banding, which is good, hope it's stuffed with 10 bit oledi.

-edit-
one more thing, how Bravia Engine 3 handles SD input such as Nintendo Wii ? can it eliminate jaggies well, or am I expecting too much lol biggrin.gif
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10 bit panel for <RM4000?? sweat.gif

Zeld4
post Feb 1 2010, 06:48 PM

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is that a no ? doh.gif i'm expecting too much then since it's a Sony lol, price really does matter laugh.gif

so how about response time and refresh rate, that's the most important things I'd like to know before getting an LCD TV for PC gaming.
Will my VGA Card recognize the refresh rate of the LCD TV if it has 100hz+ capability , because most monitors have 60hz oni
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post Feb 1 2010, 06:53 PM

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AFAIK the BX series is 60Hz only
response time, i dont have info sad.gif

10bit panels are quite a luxury. definately not in the budget range. the BX series are sony's entry level model
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post Feb 1 2010, 07:08 PM

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thanks for the info, i picked the wrong choice then sad.gif , looking for a cheap lcd tv to replace my Dell 2407 wfp-hc, hoping 100hz can help smoothing things in fps games to help my aim other than bigger head to shoot on a bigger lcd size biggrin.gif

does anyone here using LCD TV for PC gaming ? what brand/type ?




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QUOTE(Zeld4 @ Feb 1 2010, 07:08 PM)
thanks for the info, i picked the wrong choice then sad.gif , looking for a cheap lcd tv to replace my Dell 2407 wfp-hc, hoping 100hz can help smoothing things in fps games to help my aim other than bigger head to shoot on a bigger lcd size biggrin.gif

does anyone here using LCD TV for PC gaming ? what brand/type ?
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thing is, if u want purely for gaming, stick to lcd monitors. a portion of the money that goes into lcd tvs are in the TV related features, which if u just play games, then wont be useful

but of course, if u want the large size, then u got no choice smile.gif

personally, i rather sacrifice abit of frame rate for the large screen. makes gaming much mor enjoyable =D




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60hz for the 40bx400?is it good enough to watch decent movies?definitely better then CRTs right?i dont know why i keep thinking the 40" LCD is almost as big as a 29" CRT..havent seen them side by side though..the website given that day gave me a rough number but everytmie i look at a 40" at the shop im like

"its not that big oso.." tongue.gif
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post Feb 1 2010, 09:42 PM

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@daijoubu : heh yea, agree with that, that's why I thought about buying an LCD TV, for both PC Display / TV related usages such as watching tv broadcasts/consoles, all in one big screen. The only problem is picking which one lol, I'll just read here and there to gather more info for inputs ^^

@aztechx : you can try comparing tv sizes here http://www.tvcalculator.com/ , scaled down of course, but you'll get the picture about how much bigger you'll get if you decide to finally upgrade.
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QUOTE(Zeld4 @ Feb 1 2010, 09:42 PM)
@daijoubu : heh yea, agree with that, that's why I thought about buying an LCD TV, for both PC Display / TV related usages such as watching tv broadcasts/consoles, all in one big screen. The only problem is picking which one lol, I'll just read here and there to gather more info for inputs ^^

@aztechx : you can try comparing tv sizes here http://www.tvcalculator.com/ , scaled down of course, but you'll get the picture about how much bigger you'll get if you decide to finally upgrade.
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yea ive seen the website..looks alot bigger there but like i mentioned,at the shop,and even on the production line,i dnot know why the screen looks a bit small..maybe its an optical illusion or something.. tongue.gif

ive confirmed my KLV-40bx400 purchase..just wondering how god ti would be since its an entry level model..
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jan 29 2010, 07:27 PM)
just curious, for the high end models,theres this feature called motionflow 100Hz/200Hz/240Hz..those represents the refresh rate of the screen right?how about the entry level models without motion flow?whats the refresh rate like?
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50Hz

QUOTE(Zeld4 @ Feb 1 2010, 06:30 PM)
anyone know what's the response time and refresh rate for this Sony Bravia KLV-40BX400, planned to use it mainly for PC Gaming, FPS genre, hope it's quite fast and can provide smooth movement required to aim precisely at instant. Can't find any website mentioning these important infos at tech spec.

also, does the lcd suffer from color banding ? I read 10 bit LCD panel should get rid of color banding, which is good, hope it's stuffed with 10 bit oledi.

-edit-
one more thing, how Bravia Engine 3 handles SD input such as Nintendo Wii ? can it eliminate jaggies well, or am I expecting too much lol biggrin.gif
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response time: do not know.
refresh rate: 50Hz

If you're hoping for fast and smooth movement, then you'll be dissapointed. Generally, computer monitors has better response time and refresh rate than TVs.

During BE2 days, there are basically two types of Bravia Engine, one is the Bravi Engine 2 and another is Bravia Engine 2 Pro. The advantage of BE2 Pro is that it comes with HD upscale capability which automatically upscales DVD video into near Full HD quality. This is the reason why a mere 40 inch X450 costs RM 13,000 back then. This "Pro" edition doesn't make a debut yet in any of the BE3 line up so far. sad.gif


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post Feb 2 2010, 06:20 AM

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i see, it's refresh rate is even smaller than my current monitor sad.gif , I'll just stick a while with it then.

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Feb 1 2010, 09:22 PM)
60hz for the 40bx400?is it good enough to watch decent movies?definitely better then CRTs right?i dont know why i keep thinking the 40" LCD is almost as big as a 29" CRT..havent seen them side by side though..the website given that day gave me a rough number but everytmie i look at a 40" at the shop im like

"its not that big oso.." tongue.gif
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That's because your eyes compare it with screen height.

Screen size for 29" 4:3 TV roughly:
23.1" (W) x 17.4" (H)

For 32" 16:9 TV:
27.8" (W) x 15.6" (H)

37" 16:9 TV:
32.2" (W) x 18.1" (H)

40"16:9 TV:
34.8" (W) x 19.5" (H)

So, 29" CRT actually comparable to 37" LCD (only a few model have this size)
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Not much manufacturers has 37" now due to the cost to produce it is about the same as producing a 40" unit.
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:04 AM

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how much is KLV-40BX400 in Malaysia ? cheapest I can find here in Indonesia is around RM2740.

I've been comparing prices posted here in this forum for some brand/type to the same ones at my local online shops, it seems the prices here in Indo are quite high cry.gif

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arremie
post Feb 3 2010, 01:22 AM

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BX = S series? what's the top model? EX?
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post Feb 3 2010, 03:14 AM

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I think top model is V or W, BX is basic/entry level and categorized differently from S series on Sony website.




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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 3 2010, 02:22 AM)
BX = S series? what's the top model? EX?
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The new line-up as posted here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=31398613

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 1 2010, 11:36 PM)
During BE2 days, there are basically two types of Bravia Engine, one is the Bravi Engine 2 and another is Bravia Engine 2 Pro. The advantage of BE2 Pro is that it comes with HD upscale capability which automatically upscales DVD video into near Full HD quality. This is the reason why a mere 40 inch X450 costs RM 13,000 back then. This "Pro" edition doesn't make a debut yet in any of the BE3 line up so far. sad.gif
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BE3 Pro is coming...
Although it's still not confirm. More interesting thing large OLED panel.. rclxms.gif
http://hd.engadget.com/2009/11/13/sonys-20...-series-leaked/

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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 3 2010, 01:22 AM)
BX = S series? what's the top model? EX?
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QUOTE(Zeld4 @ Feb 3 2010, 03:14 AM)
I think top model is V or W, BX is basic/entry level and categorized differently from S series on Sony website.
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BX, EX, NX series are all new 2010 models. the S, V and W series are previous year's model



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