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post Aug 6 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 6 2011, 08:44 PM)
mutual fund give dividen need to minus tax?
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for investors - no tax for capital gain. but need to declare.

UTMC coperate tax will be deduct from gross dividedns before get net dividedns.
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post Aug 7 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(8181 @ Aug 7 2011, 02:04 PM)
I've recently invested in Public Mutual Funds. The agent was saying that for funds like this I should let it roll for as long as I can since we are charge 5% for every money invested.

But there is one  thing which I don't understand, she was showing me a graph from a customer of hers which has a buy in price, something about when the price goes down we can buy and make a gamble that it will go up and when it goes up we can sell.

Can someone enlighten me?

*I'm asking this here and not my agent due to certain personal reasons
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8181;

Unit trust is investment, not gamling.

simple is, u buy unit for cheap and sell back for higher price for profits in long term. ur buying price (average price) will cheaper over the time, becuse of accumulation of units. (re-invest the dividedns + regular top up or apply DCA).


more details in http://www.pk31-publicmutual.blogspot.com

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post Aug 7 2011, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(8181 @ Aug 7 2011, 04:04 PM)
Right, I get your drift. But for the time being I'll just let it ride and reinvest the dividends (If any).
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8181,

waht is ur risk factor.

concervtive, moderate, aggressive,

ride n reinvest the didivedns - go for dividedns funds -mderate funds- such as PIDF, PSDF so far so good. annual income, where annualy dividedns will be declared.

if u r aggressive - better go for incidental income, where the dividedns only will declare if any, the funds focus on capital growth. but so far every yrs get dividedns too.

u must understand that, when dividedns declare, u will get the dividends after deduct tax from ur gross dividends.

so, read the prospectus, asset allocation, risk factor, and investment objective. ur investment objective shud be same with fund objective.

if u active investor, apply VCA n DCA to max ur returns time to time by switching methods.


Added on August 7, 2011, 6:59 pm
QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Aug 7 2011, 06:07 PM)
spent few hour understanding DCA vs VCA vs combo of both rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
cant really understand how to combo both rclxub.gif
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DCA - buy the units regularly with any price montly, ur average unit price will be cheaper. u can make profits when ur average buying price cheaper than market price. DCA is the better option for long term goal setter. but u hv to look for the funds, past record, reocver after the bad timing.

most of local funds perform better, even after kena hantam for crisis, bangun balik dengan cepat.

VCA, hold ur money, look for unit price drop, than u buy units. sell back when u feel sudah untung, and hold back and wait for 2nd cycle.

so, apply DCA, when market collapse, switch to bond, apply dca in bond (make sure u park ur money regularly). when markt recover, apply VCA, switch to equity, contimue DCA and continue DCA/VCA until u make max ur returns,

this method apply for active investors who always need to monitor the market.

This post has been edited by kparam77: Aug 7 2011, 06:59 PM
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post Aug 8 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 8 2011, 10:01 AM)
Can we do switching from Public Series fund to PB series fund?
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not at all. either u hv to redeem all and buy PB series. u need to pay SC again.

why u want switch to PB series?


Added on August 8, 2011, 11:24 amKLCI down 40 points as at 11.25am.

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post Aug 8 2011, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 8 2011, 05:08 PM)
My pocket is big smile.gif
Hahaha..
Tomorrow another round, dunno is up or down.. Roller coaster ride everyday. 11 August 2011 might see the some light, or no light
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its look like market recovering.. ....just now -46 and now abt - 27 points.

lets c how any points 2morow.
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 8 2011, 06:23 PM)
By the way do you think RM70K is sufficient to go for investment? That is all that I have in bank  blush.gif
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keep some in bank as emergency fund. don't put all the money in place.

20% in FD
50% stock
30% in UT.

or it depends how u plan with ur risk tolerance VS urs age factor.
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 8 2011, 07:09 PM)
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Added on August 8, 2011, 7:17 pm

I believe I have enough cash for emergency use, ya? and like you said, put 50% which is ard 35k into investment first and see the trend.. or I should start from low risk investment first like bond? by the way bond is not subject to 5.5% commission like the mutual fund right? I am prepared to lock my money for long term in fact i have that cash sitting in FD for 2 yrs already blush.gif but it wasnt growing fast  cry.gif


Added on August 8, 2011, 7:20 pm
my risk tolerance is moderate maybe blush.gif ... im still young in my 20s.. but i only know how to safe (i safe like a mad cow) not how to invest sad.gif
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u r just in 20's. and u r a moderate risk tolerance person.

BOND = conservative = EPF.

i believe u hv EPF.

than u can put cash in BOND lesser than others. well my suggestion only.

my EPF = MY bond at the moments. plan to transfer some equity funds to BOND when I reach 50 to 55 yrs old. now production time for growing my money in equity funds. 50%/50% = moderate/aggressive.
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post Aug 9 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(8181 @ Aug 9 2011, 10:20 AM)
I'm still in the blur when you say all subsequent contributions for mutual funds doesn't incur the 5.5% fee. Do you mean if I switch my current PM saving funds to another fund this will not incur any 5.5% fees?
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to make it simple.
1. if u pay more then 0.25% as service charge on any funds, u not need to pay SC when u switching.

2. if u only pay SC 0.25%, so , u need to pay SC for switching for equity/balance funds.

its clearly stated in prospectus on switching.

low-loaded units =bond/money market= 0.25% SC
loaded units = equity/balanced = more than 0.25% SC
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 9 2011, 11:47 AM)
biggrin.gif I also havent got the luck to meet the mega rich... but dont have to invest so far away lor, can invest in sg or hk  tongue.gif

So, like for example, i put rm 100 (first contribution) in i'll ended up with $94.5 in the fund and the following contribution, say, rm 10,000,000 is free of charge shocking.gif
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wow, pay SC for rm100 and expect free SC for rm10,000k. ini macam PM tutup kedai-lah.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2011, 02:41 PM)
Sounds interesting.  Where do you register with Phillip Cap?
i am in East Msia.  biggrin.gif
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Apex too, u can use EPF scheme for buy stock directly. go to EPF website , look for appointed IPD for investment.
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post Aug 9 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(BrotherHoe @ Aug 9 2011, 06:00 PM)
perfect time to invest in PB now ?
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perfrct?

maybe not.....there is nota best/perfect time....only better.

don't pump all the money, buy sikit sikit.


Added on August 9, 2011, 8:11 pm
QUOTE(PPZ @ Aug 9 2011, 04:07 PM)
hey guys, i am holding a PAGF fund in public mutual and i noticed it drop a lot!! i think the US bad economy is effecting the whole world. at the same time, i do have one money market fund. my agent told me to switch all my PAGF fund into the money market because it is safer there. Do i need to switch now?
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drop how many % from ur value. wht is ur stop lost %. if the drop reach ur stop lost, switch-lah.

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post Aug 9 2011, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 9 2011, 08:15 PM)
How about invest in PM? Is it OK to start my investment coz recently just been introduced by my colleague's PM Consultant regarding UT... way before the market drop...

More interested with moderate / aggresive equity fund, will mostly invest thru RCA method (monthly) for long term (5-10 years duration)... me still noob, so any advice from sifu here? notworthy.gif
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wht is ur expectation?
ur age?
how much u want to hv in the future?
ur initial investment?
ur monthly invrst = RM200

or just follow ut agent, get his advice and invest.
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post Aug 9 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 9 2011, 08:37 PM)
What u mean by expectation?

Rite now 29 years... My initial investment probably start small RM5000, monthly invest RM500... probably hope to gain 100k in 10++years... possible or just wishful thinking? tongue.gif

This is what my agent advised me to do if thru direct debit
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ur expectaton to get rm100k in 10++ yrs.
initial - rm5k
monthy - rm500

total investment = rm5k + (rm500 x 12 x 10yrs = rm60k) = rm65k.

shortfall 35k only, can get by compunding interest.

sure without any problem with compunding 8% - 12%, (average only)

calcalte ur self here. http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/c...tor.php#results

yes, u can prceed with this plan. read the prospctus abt the funds before decide to invest. local funds gd enough.

monitor ur invstment time to time, and follow up with ur agent. AND Tke not invest unit trust with ur own risk.

best of luck.
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post Aug 9 2011, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 9 2011, 09:36 PM)
suddenly feel that this thread become hot!
right now looking for opportunity to inject some while its red  thumbup.gif

Just a quick question here, regarding PMO;
is there any fees incurred from PMOnline when we transfer online through PBebank.com itself ?
I understand if other MEPS FPX bank will charge RM2 (its RM2 right?) for any transfer to PM fund.
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its FREE from public bank to public mutual if i not mistaken. anybody can confirm.

but if u do transfer from other bank, message will pop up abt the charges.
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post Aug 9 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Aug 9 2011, 11:05 PM)
It is true Smallcap fund is reopen for investment? good chance for those who want to top up or do DCA.
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No, closed is closed.... i think the new fund PITGF similar to this. small n mid cap asset allocations.
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post Aug 9 2011, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 9 2011, 10:06 PM)
People start buying when it is low, i started buying when it's historical high! doh.gif
Fortunately I'm buying once a month so to leverage down...
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DCA-lah, good
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post Aug 10 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 9 2011, 11:10 PM)
No, closed is closed.... i think the new fund PITGF similar to this. small n mid cap asset allocations.
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Sorry my mistake withot reading UTC connect.;

Re-Opening of Sales for
- Public SmallCap Fund
- Public Islamic Opportunities Fund
- Public Islamic Sector Select Fund
- Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund


We wish to inform that the above funds will be re-opened for sales with effect from 10 August 2011 (Wednesday) to facilitate requests from existing fundholders who would like to exercise Dollar-Cost Averaging on their investments.

Please contact our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000 (Kuala Lumpur), 04-729 1500 (Penang) or 05-210 6500 (Ipoh) if you have further inquiry regarding the above matter.

Thank you.

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post Aug 10 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 10 2011, 02:10 PM)
Haha I dont like to kacau ppl and I dont want ppl to kacau me also. biggrin.gif  but I just went to FIMM website and found that I need to get a sponsor from UTMC or IUTA doh.gif

Imagine I was an agent i would have saved 2+% of SC biggrin.gif
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ya, go to http://www.pk31-job.blogspot.com for more info. who is ur upline is a optional for u.
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post Aug 10 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 10 2011, 02:54 PM)
hmm, need to go to local Pbank branch and ask for their consultant then  smile.gif
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im consultant too. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 05:16 PM

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market closed up 8 points today,

i think switching not nessacry any more at the momnets.

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