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post Jul 26 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Jul 26 2011, 09:11 AM)
I attended a talk last weekend by a Public Mutual Fund speaker during Invest Fair. After doing some homework and I'm interested in the following fund:

1. PDSF
2. PRSF
3. PSmallCap

I met an agent that day and she has yet to come back to me if these funds are still available. I'd like to know your though about these funds.

I'm currently investing in Gold, ETF and Equity.
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1. PDSF - still alive..
2. PRSF - still alive
3. PSmallCap - closed shopping.

1 n 2 - so far so good. the returns also ok.

go to http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurProducts...EquityFund.aspx for details.

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post Jul 26 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Jul 26 2011, 11:23 AM)
Kparam77 and Xuzen, thanks for the feedback.

GE is coming in few months time and I'm sure politics volatility will have significant impact in equity. Do you think I shall wait for the opportunity and take advantage if the bear pays a visit?
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if ur intention is profit taking.... u correct ..wait for the politics volatility.

if for long term, u can concider to enter now.

u need for plan for it. apply DCA and VCA to max the returns.
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ken.B @ Jul 27 2011, 01:23 PM)
Any comment on Public Aggressive Growth?

Is it profitable?
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current market sitiation, most of local equity funds doing well.

it wasw profitable....... but in future.......can also for local markets.

i make sure PAGF and PIDF in my clients portfolio.


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post Jul 27 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 03:55 PM)
Wah.. Make sure in portfolio? So keng?
If jatuh lau sai, you will have big problem because u make sure people get it... sad.gif
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long term mah......... jatuh....boleh recover back.

if not PM sudah tutup kedai.


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post Jul 29 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Jul 29 2011, 11:42 AM)
the reinvest dividend need how long only they will send the slip to me??thank u to those who are willing to answer my question.
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abt 1 month,...... if u hv online, u can c ur balance units in ur acc status.
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post Jul 29 2011, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jul 29 2011, 07:03 PM)
Its easy to change agent? How?
appreciate somebody can answer my question.
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an investor can hv more than 1 agent. as he/she wish.

- open new acc with other agents.
- u can leave ur current acc with ur existing agent.
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post Aug 1 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(kiddo_z @ Jul 29 2011, 10:24 PM)
How they count for dividend ....
is that you have to invest for that fund for at least a year ... that you entitle the dividend ....

How about if you invest yesterday and they announces the dividend today ... are you entitle for the dividend ...

how they count for the dividend ...
Is it base on your lowest unit trust end of the each months like how others PNB fund (e.g ASN/ASW) calculated ...
or a total of your unit trust the day before the announcement of the dividend ...

thank you for answering my question ...
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if u buy 1000 units yesterday and declared dividedns today. u still entitle for dividedns..the dividedns is from ur OWN money. not form PM.

let say u buy at rm0.25
1000 x rm0.25 = RM250.

let say dividedsn rm0.02
1000 x rm0.02 = RM20.

ur dividedns will be rm20 from rm250..heehehehhe

u can understand more clear at gross dividedns

and u still lost money for tax deduction to get net dividedns. don't buy unit before the dividedns at least 3 to 6 months.

ur money must work for u and than only get the dividedsn.

if u buy units before the dividedns, ur money not even start work for u, and u hv to pay tax already.


Added on August 1, 2011, 7:55 pm
QUOTE(Loonie2 @ Jul 30 2011, 10:16 AM)
You cannot open the same fund with different agent.
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i hv 2 PIEF acc with 2 agents. both epf.

for cash i don't know.

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post Aug 1 2011, 08:14 PM

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frends ;

PAUEF distribution not bad - 2.25 cents.

any comments?
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post Aug 2 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Aug 1 2011, 08:43 PM)
hey bro, u doin unit trusts also?
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ya-lah bro....not so gd with foreign market. biggrin.gif


Added on August 2, 2011, 10:28 am
QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 2 2011, 02:09 AM)
What's the difference between a 'return %' and a 'yield %'?

Lets say a fund that generated a return of 18% and a yield of 6%, what do the two percentages really mean?
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if i not mistake.......6% from 18%.

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post Aug 2 2011, 11:42 AM

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Asian markets climb.
PETALING JAYA: Asian financial markets jumped yesterday, after US lawmakers reached a deal to raise the United States' borrowing limit by US$2.1 trillion and avoid a nightmarish debt default by the world's largest economy.


http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...95&sec=business
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post Aug 3 2011, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 3 2011, 12:30 PM)
The fees are quite scary for equity and balanced funds rclxub.gif :

- Service Charge per unit 5.5% of NAV/unit
- Transfer charge RM25
- Annual mgmt fee 1.5-1.8% p.a. of NAV amount (fees varies across funds)
- Annual Trustee fee 0.06-0.08% or minimum RM 18,000-60,000. (fees varies across funds)

The fees and charges are like >7%, so does that mean a fund have to have at least >7% return to cover all the bloody fees?

On the other hand, Stock Exchange only charge commision and brokerage fee of less than 1%.
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make u more confuce,

switching - before 90 days - min RM50 and after 90 days RM25.

mgmt/ trustee fees will be deducted every year from fund NAV.

whatever bloody fees, the fund must be perform well to give better returns for u.

brokerage enter/exit less 1%. - paid to broker.

FM also need to pay the brokerage for buying the stocks for asset allocations. this comes under mgmt fees, if i not mistaken.

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 3 2011, 08:17 PM)
Hi,

I'm new in mutual fund and thinking of invest via 'EPF Investment Scheme Trust Fund'... any guru can give some direction?

Thinking of choosing the 'balanced fund', there are two of them... 'Public Balanced - PBF' & 'PB Balanced - PBBF', what's the different between this two funds?

Any better fund to invest via EPF scheme?

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ur age?
why u choose balanced fund?

Balanced fund - 60% in equity and 40% in bond.

PBF - public series fund
PBBF - Public bank seires fund.

both manage by PM.

click here for EPF SCHEME.

if u not yet hv any agents. PM me.
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 3 2011, 08:47 PM)
I'm quite old... but I'm new in unit trust... and I am reading your blog now smile.gif
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balanced fund still better for u. if u after 55 yrs old.. better go for BOND fund. more save than balanced fund and of cource diff in returns.

best of luck.
anything email me at kparam77@yahoo.com.
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post Aug 4 2011, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 3 2011, 10:22 PM)
Thanks for all the blogs and feedback about UT.

I knew I am a bit behind time of invest UT, I notice some forumer start investing in the early 20s... and me (40s+)  blush.gif  just started thinking of investing UT... hope it is not too late and catch up...

Thanks again.
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yes..its not too late for u. as long u understand abt UT concept and UT risk management. i think u can take moderate risk level.

try to read moderate funds in prospectus. maybe it will fit for u. balanced fund is concervative to moderate.

u can hv both in ur epf shceme portfiolio. don't put all in 1 fund.

u can switch to bond fund if needed. and switch back to equity funds later, if needed too.

OR JUST LET UR UNITS GROW UNTIL U REACH 55 YRS.
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post Aug 4 2011, 11:09 AM

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Notice of Unitholders’ Meeting for Public Global Balanced Fund, Public Islamic
Asia Balanced Fund and Public Islamic Balanced Fund

We wish to inform that we are calling for Unitholders’ Meeting for Public Global
Balanced Fund (PGBF), Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund (PIABF) and Public
Islamic Balanced Fund (PIBF) to be held on 24 August 2011 to propose for changes to
be made to the Funds’ Investment Objective, Investment Policy & Strategy, Benchmark
and Fund Name.


Please contact our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000 (Kuala Lumpur),
04-729 1500 (Penang) or 05-210 6500 (Ipoh) if you have further inquiry regarding the
above matter.
Thank you.
Regards,

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post Aug 4 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(toenexx @ Aug 4 2011, 12:07 PM)
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Thanks for the answer man.

Here's my case:-

Actually my agent inactive already, I received a mail from Public Mutual saying that I'll be automatically assigned a new agent, and I have choice to appoint another one within 3 months but I didn't do it.

I got a friend (not close) that is also an agent. So after this 3 months gone by (now I'm under a new agent that was auto assigned to me), I'm asking this friend to be my agent since she already advised me a lot about switching funds and whatnot. My friend told me that changing agent won't be charged, and since I wanted to switch fund as well I only have to fork out RM25.

All is well to me that I already fill in the form for new agent... until the day she went to Public Mutual to submit the application (she's offering this help to me and I didn't suspect anything)... suddenly she gave me a call saying that in order to change new agent I need to draw out all the money and then re-purchase the fund which I will then be charged 5.5% for service fee, and the worse thing is that SHE HAS ALREADY DRAWN OUT ALL THE MONEY FOR ME in check form under my name. Then she asked me to bank in the money first into my bank account and then make a new bank draft to buy the fund (with 5.5% charge). I was like what the hell I'm not going to put my money back into PM, I've already lost a lot and instead of just having to pay RM25 for switching fund (which I can do also with the new auto-agent) now I have to pay additional 5.5% for this?

Sad story, me an idiot for trusting someone I don't know well and won't have trouble ditching me for sure since we are not close friend... Now I'm considering legal action against her (if that is even possible).
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I'm sorry for u.
1. u didn't make use the time given by PM.
2. PM already assign a agent for u. u still can make frendship with him/she. u r his/her client. sure they will take care ur acc.
3. u only want to change agent, why u sign switching/repurchase form?


since u already take out ur money....... if u trust PM funds.. there r a lot agents in here. so, u know waht to do. U can PM me also at kparam77@yahoo.com if u trsut me.



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post Aug 4 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(toenexx @ Aug 4 2011, 12:45 PM)
1. yup
2. yup, but she did told me no charge for changing agent
3. because she told me filling in the form is the procedure only, without mentioning the charge that will come with it. I wanted to switch both fund and agent and was told I will only be charged RM25 for the fund switching.

Can't trust anyone right now LOL... not even PM if don't treat my complaint I'm gonna go with CIMB pulak... God forbid if the same thing repeats.
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sit for FIMM exam, get ur license and manage ur money by own and enjoy the own commisions.
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post Aug 5 2011, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 4 2011, 10:09 PM)
Hi wongmunkeong, kparam77, rkg38 & gark,

Thanks, really appreciate your support and comments.

I have too many commitment and I think I may not able to buy UT with cash at the moment.

I am comparing the return between EPF (average 5.5%) and UT (roughly 8-12%), hoping to use the EPF investment scheme to gain a bit more for my golden age. Thus, I am looking at the Public Balanced or PB Balanced fund and Public ITTIKAL fund.

My friend mention to me that I should constantly invest via EPF scheme every three months and should wait for the 'right moment' to invest. "right moment' like after '308' and the 'right moment' is coming soon... (hope you get what i means).

Thanks again.
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Recommended, 1/3 of ur epf money, u can make use for epf scheme. EPF giving 5.5% and its concider conservative. if u want to invest PM, make sure the expected returns are more than conservative returns. so, the better option for u is moderate or aggressif funds.

if u hv RM100K, take out 30K-35k only. u need to adjust ur portfolio time to time base on ur EPF contributions.

if u put in balanced fund, more and less u will ge the same with losses of SC 3%.

sisnce u r commitet with other financial issues, u will definatly take out ur money before or on time when u reach 55 yrs old. so monitor ur acc and when u think this is the right time, exit and put back ur money in EPF.

ya, u can wait for next GE, but when will be the next?? u r 40+ now, dont wait, just enter to market, apply VCA and DCA to max ur returns like active investors.

86/87, 97/98 and 08/09, so the next right moment ....should be 16/17 (if any)

if u passive, just put ur money in PSF, PRSF, both for saving.

REMEMBER, INVESTING IN UT WITH UR OWN RISK.


Added on August 5, 2011, 10:51 amOMG.......market down 20% as at 5/8/2011 10.55am.

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post Aug 5 2011, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 5 2011, 12:59 PM)
just discovered that what he meant is Market down 20points not 20%, if dropped 20% in the morning itself, many ppl will die....
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ya 20 point biggrin.gif
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post Aug 6 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 5 2011, 10:05 PM)
I thought additional investment no need to pay service charge anymore?
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u wil lost ur agent if so. unless u r own agent.

if someone sales product......of cource get some profits by selling the product. NOBODY WILL SELL ANYTHING FOR ZERO INCOME UNLESS CHARITY.

UTMC selling units and manage the units.

selling units:
upfront charge/service charge = get profits by selling the units which is from 0.25%, 3%(for epf) and up to 5.5% for cash.

UTMC and agents will share the service charge AS THE PROFITS.

manage the units:
management fees applise to mange the units. only UTMC will profits from management fees.

so, additional investment still hv both SC and management fees. cannot run away. unless UTMC give speacial promotion.

repurchase/redeem units = UTMC will buy back the units from investors. No charge apply becaouse now..investors pula selling the units to UTMC.


Added on August 6, 2011, 12:41 pm
QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Aug 5 2011, 07:10 PM)
Hi mois, yup, I think you are right, I should consider taking a bit more of risk and hope for more return. Thanks.
Hi wongmunkeong, yes, I agree with you, now I am thinking to invest on a bit more on the Equity Fund. Thanks.
Hi kparam77, thanks for your recommendation and I'm aware of the RISK, 1/3 of EPF a/c 1 to invest sound fine to me and should invest a bit aggressive... since the balanced fund at about the same as EPF's return. Personally, I think there will be some impact after coming GE (I think very soon)... hope to get a better price per unit. Btw, what is VCA and DCA means? And you mention passive investment on PSF and PRSF is regular invest every month right?

I have a few more questions:
For the initial investment via EPF scheme, I can invest into 2-3 funds and switch to other fund later when it is required, the switching fee is only RM25 per switch, right? Any switching of fund, I must ask my agent to apply for me OR I can walk into PM office and make the switch?

If the fund give dividend, I have two choices...
1) reinvest into the fund by converting the dividend into unit... let the unit number grow
2) ask for cash dividend [can ah? through EPF scheme]

After few years later, if I decided to cash-out all the investment (before age 55), all the $ will back to my EPF a/c 1... right? How about if I decided to continue the investment after age of 55?

Once again, thanks in advance for all your value advise!
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yes, u can hv more 1 acc if ur investment more than RM1k, and each acc must be min Rm1k too.
switching is for save ur money value. u can switch when u think is needed.
switcing charge before 90 days = rm50, after 90 days = rm25
this is from equity funds to bond.

if u switch from bond to equity, need to include the switching charge + service charge. (incase ur frist investment is bond fund)

u can ask ur agent to do switching for u, or u can apply for PM online and u can do ur self onlie, and also u can go to PM branch too.

the epf scheme, the dividends auto re-invest. and u hv not rights to enjoy the divedns until u reach 50 or 55 for epf retirment partialy or fully withdrawal.

if u sell back ur units before retire, the money will masuk balik ur EPF acc 1.

u still can continue with PM even after 55 yrs old. actualy its not good idea to sell back the units before 55 yrs old. u still can plan holding ur units after 55 yrs old.

at 55, u will get ur EPF money and u will spend it...let say after 3 to 5 yrs, finish ur epf money,, u still hv some amount in PM.


VCA and DCA , go to http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/Public-Mutual/message/43 & http://www.iankree.com/2010/02/19/money-game/turn-your-mutual-funds-switch-on-and-off/

passive investor = investor will just put the money either lmp sump or regular top up, and not worries abt the mrket trend, will sell back the units for profits after certain yrs. 5/10/15/20 yrs.

active investor = always monitors the market, look for opportunity to max their money value.

there are many ways of investment strategy to max the returns.

PSF =public saving fund.
PRSF = public regular saving fund.

it not mean u hv to invest regulary. all the funds can invest 1 time or more than 1 time. no limit.




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