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post Dec 11 2010, 07:25 AM

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guys i wanna ask about elite gold member. It says that we need at least 500k in order to become an Elite gold member. 500k means total money we have in PM or just pure capital? thinking to top up another 3k to become one though.

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post Dec 24 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 21 2010, 07:14 PM)
Yeah AMB got Lipper Award for 2010 but they not like PM that make a advertisement to show off they won the lipper
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Ittikal fund
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=KLITTFI:MK

AMB
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The initial charge is 7% for AMB? Indeed it is performing better than Ittikal. Where to buy this fund? Which bank?
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post Jan 17 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(UltraConductor_41 @ Jan 16 2011, 05:14 PM)
Hi all,

im new to unit trust actually, and i wondering what is Mutual Gold? In my statement, it said minimum requirement  = 100,000. This represent the total unit of the fund? or the total balance($)?

Im still google-ing about the definition of equity and bond... never learn all this in my engineering course.. sweat.gif
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Im doing engineering course but doing part time thing as an investor laugh.gif ..Mutual Gold is just like elite membership..RM 100k in equity fund i think. Elite Mutual Gold = 500k.


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post Jan 18 2011, 10:40 PM

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anyone switching their equity to bond fund now? cny is coming and alot investors pull out from stock market..i plan to lock my profit but my agent keep saying let it stand the market's upside down for 3 years..500k if lose 1% a day mean Rm5k lost. 2008 crisis back then my agent did nothing on my funds. doh.gif

So comment or advice?

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post Jan 18 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 18 2011, 11:16 PM)
Yeah, I'm thinking about the same thing. I bought some PB smallcap fund when it was 78 cents, now already 93 cents (I think). Thinking of switching to something safer..... not really sure what to do.....  rclxub.gif
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If want something safer can opt for public bond fund(safer) or public money market(safest i think). Then after CNY, can switch back to equity if the market is stable. We are on high tide anyways. Have you consult your agent?
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post Jan 19 2011, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 19 2011, 04:05 PM)
Hi.. is it advisable to invest in PM at this point of time? The stock market is now quie high.. so i am thinking it will not be a good time to go in.
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Depends. U want long term investment? If long term investment, can invest by dollar-cost averaging.
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post Jan 22 2011, 01:34 PM

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Sigh. Just wanna share something. Just a lesson i learned. Few days ago, i was discussing with my agent about to switch over bond fund because investors are pulling out from the market due to cny is coming. Volume trades of course drop alot.

So my agent told me, "dont too rush, if u can put 5 years consistent u will get return more than 50%". I was like doh.gif . He told me if got big crisis only that consider me to switch. "IF not after u switch to bond u cant switch back to equity fund"-->why cant switch back? i thought switching is allowed anytime. I ask him why cant switch back, and he said "If market go up faster then how u switch back? If market down u can go back." So i just diam diam

Here is what i thought and observe. During the last few weeks rally in the stock market, im sure everybody here gain alot from it. So last week, i was planning to lock my profit which worth 30k since december until now. Lock profit for now, then if cny is over and trade volume is high(i assume investors are coming back) and no bad news over regional markets, i switch back to equity funds. Sadly im too young and i could not afford to do my decision myself, so i diam diam again and just follow the agent advice. So for yesterday, the NAV price for most of my equity funds drop 1%+. It costs me 5k-6k lost in a day. cry.gif

I know unit trusts are meant for long term investment and is a risky asset( less risky than stock). But i got the times (since im a student) to do some researches. Im willing to follow the market condition daily too. If I follow my own decision, i could have avoid the big drop. Any comments, guys?








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post Jan 25 2011, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 22 2011, 02:23 PM)
I think what you agent is trying to tell you if you switch from equity to bond, and if the market go up, you will miss the opportunity and pay HIGHER prices for your equity.

For example, lest say equity fund RM1, bond Fund RM 1, and no counting of switching charge to make things simple. If you switch 10,000 units of Equity Fund, you get 10,000 units Bond Fund. Also lets assume the equity market goes up instead of down, in 6 months Equity fund is RM 1.1, Bond Fund is RM 1.05. You switch from bond to equity, you will get 10,000 x 1.05/1.10 = 9,545.45 units so you actually lose on the potential earnings.

But of course if the market down go down instead of up, then you avoid more losses.  rclxms.gif

Instead of timing the market (which most people gets it wrong), maybe you would like to use asset allocation to automatically re balance your portfolio say every 6 months. This is a much simpler method, and avoid timing altogether.

P/S your agent will earn more trailer fees if you hold equity fund. Bond funds have very low fees for the agent.  brows.gif
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What? I thought agent only earn money if we invest. Got trailer fees also? rclxub.gif
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post Jan 27 2011, 12:00 PM

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guys, under the rule of switching in PM, it is stated that if we do frequent of switching under 21 days, PM has the rights to reject.

My question, how often is often? i want to lock profit / cut loss in the future. Dont want to repeat same mistake.
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 27 2011, 12:52 PM)
Please do not switch too often, as you are trying to time the market. There are risk to switching which might make you lose potential profits. Ut is not meant to be traded like shares.  tongue.gif Try asset allocation instead.
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Sometimes only bro. tongue.gif . If nothing big happen, no switch. Yea quite aware of the potential profits if i switch at wrong time. That is why i nothing to do i monitor currency movement and stock market (regional markets) plus some more i chit-chat alot with my uncle who has like 12-15 years of experience in stocks. I cant deny fund managers are indeed professionals, but we have advantage when there is downturn or profit taking activity, right? tongue.gif . I have a break-even in this year, good rally but end up break even for last 2 weeks. doh.gif .Now too late to switch already. Can rebound back anytime. laugh.gif . And yeah it is really bad to time the market based on our emotions. Need include alot of factors and risks involved. So much things to learn, i thought just simply dump money into UT last 6 months which i think quite lucky because the bull is still running. laugh.gif

For asset allocation, I will think about it. If market is stormy and no direction, 40% equity 60% bond should be good right? For now, i think i will invest ASW2020 until it maxed out. UT and shares for me, too high laugh.gif . Might make loss due to 5.5% charge. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Jan 27 2011, 07:46 PM)
Have question. I have a pittikal fund. And its dividend distribution is around May if not mistaken. This May this year, i'll get extra big cash to put in the fund. But the question is, should i put the money before dividend distribution or after distribution? since if i put before dividend distribution, i'll get the dividend. On the other hand,  i can get more units if i purchase units after distribution as the NAV will drop after distribution right?
which one is more profitable?
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Actually doesnt matter. Still the same. U get more units but the NAV will be adjusted to that the amount of money u have in that fund before the distribution. icon_rolleyes.gif Last time i also think the same thing as you laugh.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:33 PM

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anyone still holding equity fund? drop badly today.
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post Feb 19 2011, 01:20 PM

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Public bond fund charge is 0.25% right? It is closed? Available for additional top up if my account for Public bond fund still active?
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post Feb 24 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(buylowsellhigh @ Feb 23 2011, 10:08 PM)
ut prices fluctuation is normal, just recently people were panicking when the bursa index dropped below 1500.
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Yea a lot of people lost confidence for the market at the moment. Bad news are more than good news. And i have already switched my fund to bond. Profit around 10-12% havent include 5.5% hefty charge. shakehead.gif . My agent totally ridiculous. I told him to do the switching, he told me many people start to invest alot after prices fall few days ago. And say few more things to encourage me to hold. doh.gif
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QUOTE(rkg38 @ Feb 24 2011, 04:44 PM)
this is normally...js like invest in market share...people will buy when the price drop...
n u need to know...u can get more unit when u invest v same amount.

eg: invest RM1k, after 5.5% = RM945.
1) 0.27, 3500 units, average cost 0.2857
2) 0.26, 3634.61 units, average cost 0.2751
and also, more unit to share ur 5.5% services charges...
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Yeah it is normal people will buy when the price drop. And it is normal to sell when the price is high too. Anyone who invests a large volume at this like this will bear a higher risks, no? But in conclusion, we have to do some homeworks not just dump money inside UT tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 04:39 PM

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what happen to bond funds? all drop alot
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QUOTE(night @ Apr 8 2011, 04:11 PM)
Some of the bonds actually increases alot. Previously I made a lost of about RM400. After the Tsunami incident, I am actually earning at about RM200.
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I lost rm2k plus in public select bond fund. Overall almost break even only
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QUOTE(MNet @ Apr 8 2011, 09:59 PM)
how long u invested?
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Since early may i think. Previously i was holding equity funds
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post Apr 14 2011, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(cherylds @ Apr 14 2011, 03:12 AM)
Hie all,

Im relatively new to  PM . A few days ago i met  UT agent . She advised me to start with  Public Savings Fund . E.g  with a combination of Account 1 EPF and RM300  monthly .
I understand that unit trust is investment is  not risky as stock market nor safe as FD . On a scale of  1-10. How is  risk  and return like , taking into consideration of volatile market and  natural disaster ?

Reading this thread gives me an insight on what to expect investing in  UT

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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If you look back at PSF performance, actually it doesnt perform really good compared to public regular saving fund. UT vs stock market, it depends. There are so many counter in stock market, some are very volatile and some are not. UT fund like PRSF invest mostly in heavyweight counters which are bluechips. IF CI(composite index) up 1%, most funds will up around +-1% as well.
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QUOTE(cherylds @ Apr 14 2011, 12:04 PM)
thxxx for the advise  and ratings extremely helpful  for noobs me who does not have a good financial knowledge

Im kinda confuse here actually , i was going through the Public Mutual  Quarterly  Fund Review ,Quarter 4 Dec 2010  on the Annual Returns for Financial Years Ended 31  Dec. I noticed in 2008 it was  -28.32% . Does this mean that example ,I  invested RM6000 and will I loose all the Rm6K for year 2008 ?  . In addition , RM2K(EPF Account1 ) from the Rm6 invested also burnt ?  rclxub.gif

Help me clarify cos  I don;t wanna risk my EPF  savings  icon_question.gif
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If u invest RM6k and the return is -28.32%, it means u lose RM1699.2. You calculate it this way. -28.32%/100 x RM6000 = -RM1699.2.

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