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Sifha238
post Jan 15 2010, 07:37 PM

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Youth Development is another story. It's all about money rolleyes.gif

Allow beer and cigarette company to sponsor Malaysian League like before. More income from sponsorship is always a good things ( as long not go to the wrong place )

Can give club more participant and prize money. No more unpaid salary for coach and player. Club can hire foreign coach which will always benefit. Start back 3 foreign player rule. 2 season is enough to get undiscovered local player shine

Lastly yet importantly Shebby Singh as FAM general secretary notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by Sifha238: Jan 15 2010, 08:45 PM
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post Jan 15 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Jan 15 2010, 08:37 PM)
Youth Development is another story. It's all about money  rolleyes.gif

Allow beer and cigarette company to sponsor Malaysian League like before. More income from sponsorship is always a good things ( as long not go to the wrong place )

Can give club more participant and prize money. No more unpaid salary for coach and player. Club can hire foreign coach which will always benefit. Start back 3 foreign player rule. 2 season is enough to get undiscovered local player shine

Lastly yet importantly Shebby Singh as FAM general secretary  notworthy.gif
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true....i agree its all about the money...if there is more prize money then it will be more competitive. you said about beer and cigarette sponsoring.
i say legalize sports betting, rather than having those illegal bookie running around, government should run it or privatize it then tax them, it is a very lucrative sector.


Added on January 15, 2010, 8:55 pm
QUOTE(gerrardtorres9 @ Jan 15 2010, 08:32 PM)
Not even every schools has a soccer field(just like my school). People prefer to play street soccer or futsal too, due to most of the football fields not well taken care of. When it rains, gonna be damn muddy. Goal pole no net, nobody cares. These primary schools or secondary don't actually encourage football.
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same here too...last time when i was young, i always wonder how those EPL footballer do those sliding celebration, i tried to do it end up hurting my knees...i was around 9 i think...hahaha.stupid of me.

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post Jan 15 2010, 09:04 PM

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The root of the problem is obvious.

Kick those bloody politician's out of football. They are good for nothing.
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post Jan 16 2010, 01:21 PM

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I think football team and games should make like extra-co. Meaning students will join and practice and play. Of course they don't practice everydat but 3 times a week then very 2 week gaming with other school or near by school. Although it can't develop a good team, but at least it provide opportunity for the kids to involve in the football. Then those are good will make as 1st team and so on. Scouting squad should go around and scout the players. Then choose them and form a district team, at least A and B, train them. Give them some min allowance. I sure is ok for kid with small amount of allowance. Then move to state level. Train and study in state level football school. Something like scholarship, everything paid for the kids. Every month inter state competition.
State level team is important, bcoz as national scouting they can move from one state to another to check on the kids.
At the begining lever, we should provide opportunity for the kids to play then choose the better one, go for state footbal schooling.
But here we spend alot on sponsoring competition but involve only certain players. It just restrict to those in the squad. Of course some of the non sport brain in the management will also come out funny ideas which doesnt really help on the development. We spend but we spend in wrong idea. That's why we don't have result. I think is better go to semipro, reason is players are gurantee jobs and even they retired they still can work on and carry on their life. It makes them feel security. If going pro, what happen if they can't preform or injured, what happen after retired? Our pro doesn't pay as much as those in euro, and job opportunity for football is less compare to them. Football coach doesn't have much vacancy. Actually they can be train as sport teache in school and in the same time manage the school football extro-co. For exp, i will going to U do my degree. If I go football after retired what can i do? If i can do my degree in the same time involve in football then i can go on. But now no choice need to choose the security one.
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post Jan 16 2010, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Jan 16 2010, 02:21 PM)
I think football team and games should make like extra-co. Meaning students will join and practice and play. Of course they don't practice everydat but 3 times a week then very 2 week gaming with other school or near by school. Although it can't develop a good team, but at least it provide opportunity for the kids to involve in the football. Then those are good will make as 1st team and so on. Scouting squad should go around and scout the players. Then choose them and form a district team, at least A and B, train them. Give them some min allowance. I sure is ok for kid with small amount of allowance. Then move to state level. Train and study in state level football school. Something like scholarship, everything paid for the kids. Every month inter state competition.
State level team is important, bcoz as national scouting they can move from one state to another to check on the kids.
At the begining lever, we should provide opportunity for the kids to play then choose the better one, go for state footbal schooling.
But here we spend alot on sponsoring competition but involve only certain players. It just restrict to those in the squad. Of course some of the non sport brain in the management will also come out funny ideas which doesnt really help on the development. We spend but we spend in wrong idea. That's why we don't have result. I think is better go to semipro, reason is players are gurantee jobs and even they retired they still can work on and carry on their life. It makes them feel security. If going pro, what happen if they can't preform or injured, what happen after retired? Our pro doesn't pay as much as those in euro, and job opportunity for football is less compare to them. Football coach doesn't have much vacancy. Actually they can be train as sport teache in school and in the same time manage the school football extro-co. For exp, i will going to U do my degree. If I go football after retired what can i do? If i can do my degree in the same time involve in football then i can go on. But now no choice need to choose the security one.
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i'm hearing what you say, and i agree. security is the most important thing in a man's life, i dont think playing football gonna put the food on the table, anyway not in our country.

i think we need to push those politician to do something about it, if we dont push them they wont do anything. even our motosport grow better than our football.
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post Jan 17 2010, 01:40 PM

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Malaysia football league has been sliding since Singapore left Malaysia League and started their own league. Say whatever you want about Singapore football, they was lower ranked than us 10 years ago, but they are ranked higher than us. Malaysia is slowly slipping while Singapore is slowly climbing.

And look at Singapore league. They even have a Japanese club playing in their league.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albirex_Niigata_FC_(Singapore)

Their local players can gain experience from playing the Japanese, but Malaysia even kicked out imported players. How to improve when you don't compete with better players? I suggest Malaysia do the same, invite Japanese, Korean or Chinese (as in from China) teams to play in our league.

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post Jan 17 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 17 2010, 01:40 PM)
Malaysia football league has been sliding since Singapore left Malaysia League and started their own league. Say whatever you want about Singapore football, they was lower ranked than us 10 years ago, but they are ranked higher than us. Malaysia is slowly slipping while Singapore is slowly climbing.

And look at Singapore league. They even have a Japanese club playing in their league.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albirex_Niigata_FC_(Singapore)

Their local players can gain experience from playing the Japanese, but Malaysia even kicked out imported players. How to improve when you don't compete with better players? I suggest Malaysia do the same, invite Japanese, Korean or Chinese (as in from China) teams to play in our league.
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lol..its a stupid concept right? if you can't beat them, kick them out..how on earth are we going to improve if we keep on using this policy..
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post Jan 17 2010, 03:58 PM

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i think only a few people care about what is gonna happen to malaysian football...i wish we could be as passionate about our local football club as we are with the EPL club.
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post Jan 17 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Jan 15 2010, 08:37 PM)
Youth Development is another story. It's all about money  rolleyes.gif

Allow beer and cigarette company to sponsor Malaysian League like before. More income from sponsorship is always a good things ( as long not go to the wrong place )

Can give club more participant and prize money. No more unpaid salary for coach and player. Club can hire foreign coach which will always benefit. Start back 3 foreign player rule. 2 season is enough to get undiscovered local player shine

Lastly yet importantly Shebby Singh as FAM general secretary  notworthy.gif
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Wanna add something.

This money / sponsorship things become a problem because FAM been handle by political people. They afraid about people vote ( Malay will not vote you if you allow beer company to sponsor , PAS will use this as an issue etc ) doh.gif . Football must be seen as business and handle by business people . One good example is Russia football handle by Chelsea owner Roman Abrahamovich

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post Jan 17 2010, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Jan 17 2010, 04:02 PM)
Wanna add something.

This money / sponsorship things become a problem because FAM been handle by political people. They afraid about people vote ( Malay will not vote you if you allow beer company to sponsor , PAS will use this as an issue etc )  doh.gif . Football must be seen as business and handle by business people . One good example is Russia football handle by Chelsea owner Roman Abrahamovich
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I am not totally agreed with your ideas. Yes, our football community needs more efficient business and marketing plans. But that doesn't necessarily means bringing in beer companies to invest in our football scene. My reasoning:

As things stand by now, huge majority of local football fans are Malays. Majority of the players are Malays (I'm not sure how can you overlook this fact). If local football clubs start to display all sorts of beer brands on their shirt, just imagine the uproar it will cause. Yes, in the long run, a lot of money will be generated. But that idea will not kick off very smoothly. You do know how sensitive such issue is to the Malays, do you not? Malay players will not even be willing to wear shirts with Carlsberg imprinted on them.

I'm sure many other companies from other industries will be interested to invest into our football scene, if the football scene itself have something in return to its sponsors. Football community needs to think about that. That's why more business minded people are needed in FAM and other State FAs. They are not required to bring in tobacco or beer companies. We need their brains.

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post Jan 23 2010, 07:14 PM

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http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?fil...2953&sec=sports

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PETALING JAYA: The FA of Malaysia (FAM) have shot themselves in the foot for leaving the Harimau Muda senior team (Under-21) stranded this season.

The FAM withdrew Mohd Azraai Khor’s boys from participation in the Super League at the last minute with the hope to get the team to play in a foreign league.

But their hopes went up in smoke on Monday when the FA of Singapore (FAS) announced their decision not to accept the Malaysian team in their 12-team S-League, which kicks off next month.

They opted for three foreign teams, retaining Japanese side Albirex Niigata and including newcomers Beijing Guo’an and France-based Etoile.

Singapore League gets more interesting. Malaysia?

 

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