Nexus One LYN Official Review & Testing, Our very own testing playground on N1 :)
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 Jan 31 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 31 2010, 08:51 PM) WHAT? WinMO on Android phone? Seriously, please tell me that you meant "running Android on WinMo device" instead!! I saw a link....they install android on a winmo htc hd 2 ......and they canm choose between winmo and android during boot up....Added on January 31, 2010, 8:52 pmbahathir, I get 3.2Mbps over Wifi with FTP server   |
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Jan 31 2010, 10:47 PM
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I think it is 'Possible' to insall WinMo in N1, if the WinMo has all the needed drivers.
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Jan 31 2010, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 31 2010, 10:47 PM) I think it is 'Possible' to insall WinMo in N1, if the WinMo has all the needed drivers. by the way ....the smoothness of touch screen compare to Iphone 3gs still kinda of chunky is it becos of nexus one hardware or android? |
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Feb 1 2010, 12:16 AM
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Yup,the same feeling from my friends too. Here is my assumptions.
Touch screen resolution: N1:atleast 800x480 vs iPhone 480x320 N1 has to process 2.5 more pixels than iphones But, I already get used to it, so not a big issues. Side notes: This is how the Snapdragon CPU changes it's CPU speed. In my test shows the live wallpaper will escalate the CPU frequency to the Max, (1Ghz) most of the time especially the "Water' live wallpaper. But the good news is, the cpu freq will be lowered to 245MHz when it is in standby.  The Nexus live wallpaper is not bad at all. The cpu speed stays 245 MHz, unless we touch it many times. But, I prefers solid black static wallpaper.$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/trans_table Sample result CODE From : To : 245000 384000 460800 499200 576000 614400 652800 691200 768000 806400 844800 998400 245000: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 488 384000: 121 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 42 460800: 54 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 32 499200: 27 13 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 576000: 34 22 11 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 49 614400: 49 6 5 7 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 31 652800: 29 6 5 6 24 13 0 0 0 0 0 42 691200: 8 3 3 2 13 11 21 0 0 0 0 23 768000: 22 8 5 2 14 18 23 18 0 0 0 57 806400: 10 3 4 1 5 4 8 11 33 0 0 42 844800: 6 1 3 1 2 3 7 7 18 5 0 32 998400: 129 74 62 35 60 72 66 48 115 116 85 0 Another one is time_in_state, which shows how long (in micro second) the CPU was in that particular cpu speed. $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state CODE 245000 493919 384000 3022 460800 1892 499200 1356 576000 1431 614400 5971 652800 3187 691200 582 768000 2019 806400 1577 844800 913 998400 19362 This post has been edited by bahathir: Feb 1 2010, 12:35 AM |
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Feb 1 2010, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 1 2010, 12:16 AM) Yup,the same feeling from my friends too. Here is my assumptions. Which means the touch screen get chunky on nexus one is because of the hardware?Touch screen resolution: N1:atleast 800x480 vs iPhone 480x320 N1 has to process 2.5 more pixels than iphones But, I already get used to it, so not a big issues. Side notes: This is how the Snapdragon CPU changes it's CPU speed. In my test shows the live wallpaper will escalate the CPU frequency to the Max, (1Ghz) most of the time... So, to save power, I recommends to use static wall paper... In my case, I use only SOLID BLACK wall paper. $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/trans_table Sample result CODE From : To : 245000 384000 460800 499200 576000 614400 652800 691200 768000 806400 844800 998400 245000: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 488 384000: 121 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 42 460800: 54 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 32 499200: 27 13 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 576000: 34 22 11 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 49 614400: 49 6 5 7 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 31 652800: 29 6 5 6 24 13 0 0 0 0 0 42 691200: 8 3 3 2 13 11 21 0 0 0 0 23 768000: 22 8 5 2 14 18 23 18 0 0 0 57 806400: 10 3 4 1 5 4 8 11 33 0 0 42 844800: 6 1 3 1 2 3 7 7 18 5 0 32 998400: 129 74 62 35 60 72 66 48 115 116 85 0 Another one is time_in_state, which shows how long (in micro second) the CPU was in that particular cpu speed. $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state CODE 245000 493919 384000 3022 460800 1892 499200 1356 576000 1431 614400 5971 652800 3187 691200 582 768000 2019 806400 1577 844800 913 998400 19362 |
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Feb 1 2010, 12:52 AM
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I am not sure whether the drastic CPU freq changes contribute to the clunkiness, which I found not too serious.
I also did tests with the touchscreen accuracy, and response. I am using 'Simply Draw' apps (muti touch simple drawing apps), Google;s SDK dev;s Pointer Locations app, and Multi touch test apps, and I am quite satisfied with it. There many few factors which might affecting the touch accuracy 1) Finger : Yeah... our fingers need to be clean and not greasy. 2) Screen : Same as above I found that the screen is a bit 'sticky' clean, so, sometime, it is not as smooth as silk. Might be a matte screen protector can give much silky smooth touch.Added on February 1, 2010, 12:56 amAlso, make sure your palm did not touch the edge of the screen. It might cause errors in registering touches. This post has been edited by bahathir: Feb 1 2010, 12:56 AM |
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Feb 1 2010, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 1 2010, 12:52 AM) I am not sure whether the drastic CPU freq changes contribute to the clunkiness, which I found not too serious. thats lot of info.....are you working for some telco company or something.....u seem very knowledgeble on all this stuff....I also did tests with the touchscreen accuracy, and response. I am using 'Simply Draw' apps (muti touch simple drawing apps), Google;s SDK dev;s Pointer Locations app, and Multi touch test apps, and I am quite satisfied with it. There many few factors which might affecting the touch accuracy 1) Finger : Yeah... our fingers need to be clean and not greasy. 2) Screen : Same as above I found that the screen is a bit 'sticky' clean, so, sometime, it is not as smooth as silk. Might be a matte screen protector can give much silky smooth touch.Added on February 1, 2010, 12:56 amAlso, make sure your palm did not touch the edge of the screen. It might cause errors in registering touches. From what you mention above seem like the problem is from android....they need to fine tune further for touch screen? |
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Feb 1 2010, 01:58 AM
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No lah. I just an enthusiast who loves hardware and software. Most of the infos are available in the net. Just neeed some efforts and little luck. : )
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Feb 1 2010, 03:12 AM
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While those info are very useful, it is also important to know that the ROM has a very big role in how the phone functions. That is why there are custom ROMs. The default ROMs are quite badly developed so these modders alter them to make it faster and smoother. I rooted my N1, flashed CM, updated CPU freq and my phone already functions better than iPhone
There are lots of stuff coming in future. For example, the compcache apparently will not be needed anymore soon as there is a different way to manage it. |
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Feb 1 2010, 08:03 AM
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Eh, I want to clarify here ah, I alittle blu blur, n1 can support class6 Kingston? And does it have a radio?
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Feb 1 2010, 11:16 AM
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Actually what is rooted phone? Jail break? Will it make. My n1 faster? What is the. Pro and con?
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Feb 1 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(LYW @ Feb 1 2010, 08:03 AM) Eh, I want to clarify here ah, I alittle blu blur, n1 can support class6 Kingston? And does it have a radio? Of course it does support class 6. In fact, its recommended to get class 6 for optimum performance I am planning to order my class 6 card form US this time around. Kinda don't trust our local products. You never know the integrity. The last thing I want is lose my precious data And yes, it does have a "radio" if you know which radio i'm referring to..LOL..If you're referring to FM transmitter, it has the transmitter, but its deactivated..Awaiting someone to unlock it soon QUOTE(HaN18 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:16 AM) Actually what is rooted phone? Jail break? Will it make. My n1 faster? What is the. Pro and con? Yeah..something like that..Jail break is on iPhone and its illegal to do so..Root is to get super user permission on your phone giving you total control on what you can do with the phone..Root does not have anything to do with the N1 speed..But once you root, you can install a custom ROM which can speed up your N1..Pros - Endless possibilities, Super user permission, recovery system in case you screw up the phone..lol Cons - Warranty void (until you lock back the phone), also you can turn into a zombie if you don't root your phone..lol.. j/k..Thats the only con of not rooting.. |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:43 AM
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Oh okay thanks for the reply hmmm
.. to install a custom rom we need to buy and install it to boots up? Kinda risky if anything happen hahaha.. awww!! The speaker for n one kinda sucks LOL! And is there any tethering function for n1? |
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Feb 1 2010, 12:18 PM
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In Android, 'ROM' is just a software which being flashed into the device's ROM.
Currently, I am using Azilink (apps from Market), which can do the USB tethering. The process is not straight forward, but, still fun to do it. Speaker : Mmm.... it just OK. Better than my Nokia E52. |
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Feb 1 2010, 01:04 PM
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Hmmmm I can't find the application for tethering in market..
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Feb 1 2010, 01:05 PM
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Shahz..when will u order the memory from US?
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Feb 1 2010, 02:15 PM
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Feb 1 2010, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(shahz @ Feb 1 2010, 03:12 AM) While those info are very useful, it is also important to know that the ROM has a very big role in how the phone functions. That is why there are custom ROMs. The default ROMs are quite badly developed so these modders alter them to make it faster and smoother. I rooted my N1, flashed CM, updated CPU freq and my phone already functions better than iPhone What is flashed CM?.... There are lots of stuff coming in future. For example, the compcache apparently will not be needed anymore soon as there is a different way to manage it.This post has been edited by phua1985: Feb 1 2010, 02:53 PM |
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Feb 1 2010, 02:56 PM
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Oh hahaha thanks by the way anyone of you knew who sell. Screen protector??
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Feb 1 2010, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(shahz @ Feb 1 2010, 11:25 AM) Of course it does support class 6. In fact, its recommended to get class 6 for optimum performance You can have recovery system ??? so cool!! I am planning to order my class 6 card form US this time around. Kinda don't trust our local products. You never know the integrity. The last thing I want is lose my precious data And yes, it does have a "radio" if you know which radio i'm referring to..LOL..If you're referring to FM transmitter, it has the transmitter, but its deactivated..Awaiting someone to unlock it soon Yeah..something like that..Jail break is on iPhone and its illegal to do so..Root is to get super user permission on your phone giving you total control on what you can do with the phone..Root does not have anything to do with the N1 speed..But once you root, you can install a custom ROM which can speed up your N1.. Pros - Endless possibilities, Super user permission, recovery system in case you screw up the phone..lol Cons - Warranty void (until you lock back the phone), also you can turn into a zombie if you don't root your phone..lol.. j/k..Thats the only con of not rooting.. |
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