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JieXian
post May 12 2011, 11:57 PM

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Wa if got keng gu zheng player I'm very interested! But must remind her to bring her own stand later she complain shaky. XD

But otherwise I don't know la next week is 2nd last week of the semester @a@aA@HhHh. I see how much work I can finish first.

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post May 13 2011, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ May 11 2011, 04:32 PM)
WESAK day is good :-)
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That is like next Tuesday. I hope people can response in time. I am in.
QUOTE(JieXian @ May 12 2011, 11:57 PM)
Wa if got keng gu zheng player I'm very interested! But must remind her to bring her own stand later she complain shaky. XD

But otherwise I don't know la next week is 2nd last week of the semester @a@aA@HhHh. I see how much work I can finish first.
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I take this comment as an insult. I had put up with similar comment previously but I am not putting up with it anymore. Now just tell me you are going for Wesak Day. If you are then I will not go. You have just got into my iggy list. That does not only apply to on the internet but in real life. This is what an old man got to say about you, "Your father never taught you manners!"
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post May 13 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 13 2011, 09:18 AM)
That is like next Tuesday. I hope people can response in time. I am in.
I take this comment  as an insult. I had put up with similar comment previously but I am not putting up with it anymore. Now just tell me you are going for Wesak Day. If you are then I will not go. You have just got into my iggy list. That does not only apply to on the internet but in real life. This is what an old man got to say about you, "Your father never taught you manners!"
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Cool down bru... user posted image...

Young man .. I think u owe Unkel faceless an apology ... the last time we met up .. he took the hardest way to bring the GZ from home via LRT
to Kelana. Its not easy man to travel from one end to the other end of the LRT line wit a BIG green 'coffin' .... and its not easy to learn & master the GZ yet he tried to break the ice by doing his best on tat day.


"Wa if got keng gu zheng player I'm very interested! But must remind her to bring her own stand later she complain shaky. XD"

Honestly i do offended by tis remark from u ..... r u trying to hint tat u only wan to join in if there is a performance by a well known person .. else dun waste ur time.
If u r tryin somment about the last meetup , read the above para... or if u tryin to hint the keng GZ player whom Brudder Empire mentioned; Mei2
...well is not easy to get her out for such meetup as she rathers go doing her stuff like dancing or revision her studies.

U must remember we come from different back ground and age gap... a little appreciation and sincereness walks a long way in friendship.

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I just got back last nite after been away from internet for couple of days.. glad to hear tat u all r organising a get along seassion...
but honsetly I can't make it as will b busy tat day. Om mani pad me hum.

If you guys really wans to meetup say in mid June ... come to my tiny cubicle house .. got 4 GZs to play wit... May is another hectic month as busy
with exams, competitions and frds coming visiting from OZ.

Faceless; mayb tis will tame u down as u can fiddle wit the highly praise SB #10B.and my bar will be open to u thumbup.gif rclxms.gif whistling.gif user posted image

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post May 13 2011, 12:23 PM

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I can't make it on wesak day as well. faceless, just forgive him. Amitabha.


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post May 13 2011, 01:00 PM

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OK Jie Xian. If you dont apologise to Faceless, we do not welcome you anymore. What you have done is totally insensitive to say the least.
Pls leave if you dont want to apologise to faceless...and stop posting in this thread again.


Added on May 13, 2011, 1:02 pmWe postpone the WESAK day gathering and fix a new date again.


Added on May 13, 2011, 1:08 pmSince Subangman is generous to open his place in SUBANG for our next gathering....Can I suggest 19th June Sunday...3pm?

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post May 13 2011, 01:28 PM

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nevermind...

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post May 13 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(JieXian @ May 12 2011, 11:57 PM)
Wa if got keng gu zheng player I'm very interested! But must remind her to bring her own stand later she complain shaky. XD
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Actually I'm not very sure if I could have went at all whether or not she is going to perform at all. I didn't say something like 'I can make it'or 'i can definitely come'

I've just told my very good friend that I've not met in about 2 months that I cannot meet him for lunch after a long time. But I'm willing work hard to meet you all even if mei mei is not performing.

Now I read again then only realised what it can mean la. But please don't take it that way, I'm really feeling very pressured from the amount of work I have but I really enjoy music a lot. I've just been having a dilemma on whether to go right before my exams and I typed out my mind without thinking too much. I hope empire you can confirm for me that I'm really passionate about music, just that I'm not good enough.

When I'm surrounded by people thinks the top 200 US hits are the best songs ever, I am really happy to find some people who think differently and are so much more skillful and knowledgeable than me.

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About the shaky thing,

Sorry mr faceless I was joking only about the shaky board part. I always talk to my friends like that. Err we talk to each other like that la. Too used to it and forgot that you are not the same age as me and that I cannot simply talk. I most probably won't be able to talk like that in person into your face. But because this is a forum so I forgot about it as I couldn't see you.

Not that I'm saying you're lousy or a whiner. The girl was supposed to be super good and of course I'm interested to watch, so I was trying remind subangman based on a lesson I learnt from what happened with you that day, that the keyboard stand isn't strong enough for a big gu zheng, but in a way that pokes at you a bit la.

I respect people like you all a lot 1 but I accidentally got 'too friendly', that's all la sorry.
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I hope you can forgive me la.

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post May 13 2011, 10:21 PM

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well, not trying to help anyone specifically but...

if you don't already realize, jie xian's english probably isn't strong enough to express himself. we're not seeing each other so it's very easy to misunderstood or misinterpreted.

jie xian probably did not mean it, but it was indeed a very bad joke, unless jie xian is very close with faceless like father and son or super close friend for 10 years or so...which is what jie xian meant when he said "too friendly", suddenly he thought everybody became a family and can talk freely where everyone won't take it seriously.

i don't see it as a serious matter. wink.gif

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post May 15 2011, 02:24 AM

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Faceless...are you ok now?


Added on May 17, 2011, 12:56 amJX has apologised....but it's entirely up to Faceless if he wanna accept his apology. The rest of us have no say in this. Faceless...whether yes or no...put your reply here.


Added on May 18, 2011, 8:49 pmLooks like faceless is still angry. We let Faceless cool off....and when you are ok...you can post here again, ok faceless? Dont let one person spoil your mood for so long.

Meanwhile...when do you folks wanna meet up?

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post May 24 2011, 11:35 AM

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WHERE IS EVERYBODY... SO QUIET ??????
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post May 24 2011, 03:19 PM

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Subangman...exactly!
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post May 24 2011, 03:37 PM

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halo.. im still here


Added on May 24, 2011, 3:38 pmfaceless.. where are you.. unsure.gif

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post May 24 2011, 04:20 PM

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nevermind...

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post May 24 2011, 04:40 PM

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I am here too. I had been preoccupied with some personal programming project so I had put aside addressing the issue below before I start posting again.

JieXian,
I never asked for you apology and you should not bother with it as it further expose you lack of character.

QUOTE(JieXian @ May 13 2011, 03:48 PM)
About the shaky thing,

Sorry mr faceless I was joking only about the shaky board part. I always talk to my friends like that. Err we talk to each other like that la. Too used to it and forgot that you are not the same age as me and that I cannot simply talk. I most probably won't be able to talk like that in person into your face. But because this is a forum so I forgot about it as I couldn't see you.

Not that I'm saying you're lousy or a whiner. The girl was supposed to be super good and of course I'm interested to watch, so I was trying remind subangman based on a lesson I learnt from what happened with you that day, that the keyboard stand isn't strong enough for a big gu zheng, but in a way that pokes at you a bit la.

I respect people like you all a lot 1 but I accidentally got 'too friendly', that's all la sorry.
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I hope you can forgive me la.
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This is a classic case of 讲多错多。You dare say you have not passed similar remarks when we meet for the first time at Empire’s house. You not only said it once but three times. The first time I took it as a joke. The second time I pardoned you because of your age. I ignored it the third time and concluded that your father never taught you basic manners. Now, you had not only proved that you had no manners but a liar too.

“Accidentally got too friendly”, eh? What a convenient excuse. I know your kind and please think twice before trying to bluff a guy who is old enough to be your father. In my days on being at your age, I will have my fair share of flaming you back. If that had not been sufficient to satisfy my lust for flaming, I would have ambushed you in an alley and bash the day lights out of you.

I had continued to put with repeated remark in this thread thereafter because I can only feel sorry for your father for having a son like you. Now when you made the remark concerning mei mei, I had to put my foot down on the issue. Your remarks will make newbies think twice about joining our gatherings. You had no idea how long it took for people here to build a rapport with each other (you don’t just meet anyone online) and eventually organize gatherings. I will not let your flaming and trolling habit destroy that. If you want so much perfection then go to a concert. The fellowship of musician is not fit for your kind because you had no idea what it means. As for your trolling habit please take it to Kopitiam. It had no place in here.

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post May 30 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2011, 04:40 PM)
Now when you made the remark concerning mei mei, I had to put my foot down on the issue. Your remarks will make newbies think twice about joining our gatherings.

If you want so much perfection then go to a concert.
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Wait.... I think you misunderstood me.

Mei mei IS the "keng Gu Zheng player" I was talking about. Subangman said that he isn't sure if she would come so I said that I would be very interested to come despite having a lot of work if I am able to witness a high grade Gu Zheng player for the first time.


About me offending you, I'm sorry I don't know or forgot what I said so I cannot argue with you about that except maybe about 点音 and 滑音 but that shouldn't be it. That was just a case of guitar not distinguishing between all the different techniques and so a 滑音 looked the same as 点音 to me and I don't think that would have offended you.

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post May 31 2011, 01:30 AM

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JX..better not put me in the picture.


Added on May 31, 2011, 4:10 pmI dont wanna get involved between the both of you.

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QUOTE(JieXian @ May 30 2011, 09:14 PM)
About me offending you, I'm sorry I don't know or forgot what I said so I cannot argue with you about that except maybe about 点音 and 滑音 but that shouldn't be it. That was just a case of guitar not distinguishing between all the different techniques and so a 滑音 looked the same as 点音 to me and I don't think that would have offended you.
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Another classic case of 讲多错多 and further exposure of your weaknesses. Is this is to your way of denying your actions? I have a low regard of the people who raised you up. Or perhaps you are saying that you do it so often that it is already part of your nature until you have no recollection of it? Either which way it still shows that you are excrement. When the internet was new, little boys just love to troll and flame people on the net because they can remain anonymous while online. But as a university student you beat them all. You even troll people you meet for the first time.

By the way, it was fine by me on that day that you don not know the difference between 点音 and 滑音. I could not care less or more. I rather spent my time on other people than to explain and demo the difference to you. If you dont know why read again my quote below.
QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2011, 04:40 PM)
The first time I took it as a joke. The second time I pardoned you because of your age. I ignored it the third time and concluded that your father never taught you basic manners.
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Have you not heard the results of "offered little courtesies but offended people often". By the way, please dont use this to divert attention.



QUOTE(JieXian @ May 30 2011, 09:14 PM)
Wait.... I think you misunderstood me.

Mei mei IS the "keng Gu Zheng player" I was talking about. Subangman said that he isn't sure if she would come so I said that I would be very interested to come despite having a lot of work if I am able to witness a high grade Gu Zheng player for the first time.
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No I think you misunderstood the entire concept behind our gathering. Read below again.
QUOTE(faceless @ May 24 2011, 04:40 PM)
If you want so much perfection then go to a concert. The fellowship of musician is not fit for your kind because you had no idea what it means.
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In case you dont understand it, let me make it clear to you again. Who are you to make such demand? We are not a formal concert okay! It is just a gathering among music lovers to share their knowledge. Again this is your self perceived as a cleaver way of diverting attention by using Mei mei. Did you not read that Subang is as offended by this remark?
QUOTE(subangman @ May 13 2011, 11:29 AM)
"Wa if got keng gu zheng player I'm very interested! But must remind her to bring her own stand later she complain shaky. XD"

Honestly i do offended by tis remark from u ..... r u trying to hint tat u only wan to join in if there is a performance by a well known person .. else dun waste ur time.
If u r tryin somment about the last meetup , read the above para... or if u tryin to hint the keng GZ player whom Brudder Empire mentioned; Mei2
...well is not easy to get her out for such meetup as she rathers go doing her stuff like dancing or revision her studies.

U must remember we come from different back ground and age gap... a little appreciation and sincereness walks a long way in friendship.
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JX,
This thread had wasted enough time with you and you uncalled for remarks. Please go somewhere to learn some manners. I doubt your home would be the right place. As it is this thread had taught you more manners than you parents ever did for the past 20 years. BUT then again I doubt people like you had learned any of it.

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post Jun 7 2011, 01:00 AM

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Ok. I think I have seen enough of this episode. Until further notice, JX will be exempted from our gatherings. I dont want any uneasiness in our gathering. The 1st few gatherings were pleasant and educational...to say the least.

We are all in this thread to learn and impart from and to each other. There shouldn't be any unpleasant personal commentaries. We dont need that here.

Let Guzheng and Chinese Instruments be the real focus of our effort here. There are still lots more to learn from each other.

Who's with me?
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:22 PM

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Subangman wasn't sure what I meant and he was aware of the ambiguity. He kept saying .. or if .. .. if....

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Honestly i do offended by tis remark from u ..... r u trying to hint tat u only wan to join in if there is a performance by a well known person .. else dun waste ur time.


I didn't mean that. I never demanded for anything. I wanted a different day besides Wesak but I knew that I was new so I didn't ask for any change. I preferred not to come than to make demands to change the date. But I was willing to try to come if I have the chance to see a her perform. I don't know why are you so angry because I was just trying not to disturb your selected date, by not asking everyone to suit my time because I'm new.

About offending you personally, I didn't notice you giving me any signs that you despise me at all that day, I recalled you all joking and laughing so I never knew that you're actually angry deep inside. I had the impression that everybody was happy to meet new people and many of us learnt a lot. From there I had the impression that I can talk to you like a friend. Of course that was my mistake for lowering your status as an elder too much but the atmosphere didn't feel like you demanded a lot of respect, which is why I acted like that.

Besides if I'm a troll I'll already be happy that I've achieved my goals by making you angry and not trying to make you understand my perspective because I don't know what you have in your mind with all your refuting because it's definitely not what I was thinking when I posted about the performance.


empire, everyone knows I shouldn't come anymore without having them to say so and I dare not meet faceless like this myself. But I have to defend myself when someone thinks I'm a spoilt brat demanding for concerts. I understand how faceless may not be able to take what I said but usually people show early that they cannot take it. And I was misled because he didn't do it a lot earlier in which I would have totally stopped treating him as an equal.


In retrospect it's really weird how trying not to be demanding by preferring not to come made you think I'm demanding...

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OK...back to more important issue. Can I suggest we meet on 17th August RABU (Nuzul Quran day)? It's a public Holiday for the whole of Malaysia.

My house is open...but it will be good if someone else also can offer his/her home for a few hours as an alternative.

Everyone please give some suggestions here.

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