I actually dont agree completely. I mean yeah, alot of malaysians love to migrate overseas for the sake of better education, better like - thus obtaining PRs/citizenship overseas.
I dont know, but for me, I cant think that far, for my so-called "kids" and "family". Right now, after spending four years in Melbourne, I still cant feel at home and at peace at this place. I cant blend completely into the culture. What I see is that international students stick with each other, and local students look at intl students differently.
Basically what i am saying is that, unless one has been raised in a country for most of their life, it is very hard to really mix in and feel at home. For alot of PRs/intl students, they dont care if they can mix in with the locals anyway. They feel contented to just keep their social circles limited to intl students.

and besides, I dont think Australian primary/secondary educaton is all that great.

that's true, one can only plan so much.

as for home and peace, different people will have different experiences, different personalities, one goes overseas and pay a bunch mostly for the experience which you will not be able to obtain back in your home. WHETHER they do grasp that experience, that's up to the individual.

and well, being shunned by others depends as well; how sociable are you, how do you LOOK, how do you act around people. Not even talking about overseas, it even happens back here. Locals to locals. In class, some people are ignored, viewed differently, some are POPULAR.. lol..

Well whether it's great or not, i feel it still beats Malaysian education system hands down..

You are right, not everyone can fit into the culture here. But for most of us Malaysians who've graduated from Australian tertiary education, a large portion of us still want to stay on in Australia, apply for our PR and work here. Its not so much to do with the better education system for our "future kids" but also we feel that we have a better life here. Theres more stability, the streets are safer, the quality of life is higher and of course the government is way better than the jokers elected into Malaysian parliament. This is not to say everything is perfect but we just feel that compared to Malaysia, we will have a better life here.

And most of us have plans to go back to Malaysia after a few years of work in Australia because in the long term we would still like to live in Malaysia. But its nice to know our kids will have a PR status and can afford to have the choices we never had. But that is really thinking too far ahead I guess.

I myself have also been in Melbourne 4 years. Recently graduated, and working as a research assistant with my university while I wait to lodge my PR application. Looking to land a job in Australia and then see how it goes. Also nice to know we have a higher purchasing power of 3:1 (albeit with insanely high taxes)

This post has been edited by Luke1989: Jan 19 2011, 09:58 PM

hey guys, just wondering.. it is ok if I bring my speaker + subwoofer in my luggage? will I have to declare anything at the airport? or is there any rules saying that i cant bring eloctronic device in my luggage?

i'm bringing mine man! armageddon A5 .. i'm gonna put it in the box and bring it with me. Don't think you need to declare that... =/

thanks! good to hear that!. can't live without loud music around me.

touche bro. as long as you don't exceed your weight limit it should be fine, haya actually posted on the first page what can and cannot be allowed into Australia. Have a read. The strict ones are mostly FOOD. And the soil part, just make sure your shoes and all are CLEAN... =D

i have 45kgs. how not to bring my sounds system?

u got yr own house rite?

hey guys, i'm thinking of getting the SIM ONLY plan by THREE. $35 a month...Do i need a bank statement for that or can it be obtained asap??

well been here for few days and seriously i don think i can fit into the culture as well . They seems so relax which i don reli like . My hometown Bintulu a small place in Sarawak is more busy than Perth lol.. My dad came here for few days he said he will die if living is australia LOL ! .. it depends on ppl but i quite agree with my dad tat he said tat he use Malaysian Ringgit to let me study if i stay in Australia means we are giving our money free of charge to tat country . I think a lot of china ppl work here for few years and move bak to their country haha .. It all depends what kind of lifestyle u wan . But for me i think Malaysia is still the best coz is my hometown the place where i am born . I love Malaysia even though we have corrupted government but who cares ? At least is liveable and the corruption doesn affect our lifes anyway . Still a lot of ppl migrate coz of corrupted government but does tat reli affect how u live ? haha . Don't boom me a... I'm just giving my point of view

I have checked the fees of getting a bachelor in Accounting degree in Monash Malaysia campus is about rm110k for full 3 year course. May I know how much is it to obtain the same degree in Clayton campus, Australia? Or roughly same kind of degree in other australian uni will do.

Also, I read that the lodging will be about A$180 per week. Can anyone also give me an estimate of other costs like food etc. basically, how much roughly to spend per year on food and lodging in australia? I am trying to see how much more expenisve it is to study in australian campus.

Thx

I reckon yes, cos you're still signing up for a plan, just without the phone =) so you'll need a bank statement, and your passport =) and I think your visa too to see how long your stay in aus will be.

i din quite get the part of your dad and malaysia ringgit man..you lost me there.. xD

which part of aussie are you in? i like relaxed culture!! not TOO relaxed but ...yeah...adequate.. ^^

and well, i THINK majority of the people migrate is for a better life and for their education or childrens..

previously i studied in Perth but yea indeed i found it is too relax for me hence i moved to Sydney... Im love city lifestyle because im used to hectic lifestyle in mas =)

first of all, for your course i think you can go to the university's website and check the course and pricing there. do some survey and research online bro. or you can even email the counselors

lodging.....well, that AUD$ 180 is probably for the first few months of your life man, after that you might move into another place with your mates and stuff. you know the place well, you might even stay maybe a "distance" from your campus as usually rents there are cheaper.

as for food, first off, you're in melbourne. living expenses there are pretty high compared to adelaide but i'm sure around universities there are food cafeterias and stuff where you can probably can a meal for less than $10. Again goes to what you eat and how much you eat. i'd say put aside $20 a day for meals.

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Added on January 24, 2011, 12:23 amif your lifestyle in perth is relaxing...me heading to adelaide...i wonder.... =?

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Added on January 24, 2011, 12:25 amalright, i don't get the bank statement part for this. cuz the SIM ONLY has no contract so I can terminate it anytime, they don't need a bank statement for that right? If i'm locking in 24 or 12 months, then yea, bank statement necessary. hmm, cuz someone told me that the bank will only provide a statement the following month, and I gotta request for one on the day I open a account and it'll take 1 week!! 1 week is pretty long to be depending on roaming charges from malaysia man... T_T

This post has been edited by zeke'stah: Jan 24 2011, 12:25 AM

lol... then its totally up to us i guess... keep searching for the best place to live with and a uni which provides better teaching... adelaide?? haha congratz mate =P

haha! that congratz sounds sarcastic man! >< i'm not really into a happening kinda lifestyle, but as long as its not TOO dead... everyone keeps harping on how DEAD adelaide is. have you been there? is it really THAT dead?

Overall perth is still better in terms of living standard.

The website says international students about A$32000 per year. Wow! I calculated food and lodging easily $A10k per year. This means about A$42000 per year. That is A$126k for full 3 years. In Malaysia, it is RM378k for total course compared to about RM130k if done in malaysia. Is that right? Quite a big difference!

Thanks

Hey anyone here who are studying at University of Melbourne? May I know what are the recommended place to stay? I have heard about Unilodge@Melbourne but it has been getting very poor reviews from the current tenants. It has many issues and I am quite reluctant to stay there anymore. People have also recommended me College Square which is pretty good but it is quite pricey. Any other suggestions? Would really appreciate some feedbacks as I am flying there in a few weeks time. Thank you =)