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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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Luke1989
post Jan 18 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Jan 18 2011, 09:17 PM)
Click here to find out what's my issue. =D

Before that, I would like to thank you guys for helping out in answering my previous questions and provide encouragement.
Alright. Here we go.

Well, as some of you suggested that I should wait for Uni B. From 5 universities, down to 3. Just realised that I didn't manage to get through uni B as it is so demanding for all applicants this year. Unless I'm given another chance in second round offers. So what I left right now is Uni C, D and E and three of them are all based in different cities. Uni A is off the list because the deadline is due and I did not respond to their offers.

Your role? Good question. Not going to ask you guys which uni is good or bad. I believe all unis are good in their expertise. What I need you guys to help out is to write down any extra details that you guys may gain when studying in these universities or any solutions in solving the cons I've listed from each uni and its related surroundings.

And btw, I'm planning to take Bachelor of Commerce majoring Accounting. I'm ok with additional units from Finance too. These 3 unis are all accredited by ACCA, CPA and ICAA if I take the recommended units by these boards. Am not encourage to perform any credit transfer.

Uni C [QUT]
- Referring to haya's post dated 9/1/2010, there are stereotypes, e.g. Asians in Business. Chances of getting exposure interacting with other students in the same faculty may be limited.

Uni D [Uni of Adelaide]
- The climate isn't really my type. I am not the person that is fond of cold that goes down below 5 or 6 degrees during winter. May get chapped lips and dry flaky skin most of the time.

Uni E [UWA]
- It is really tough to look for off-campus accommodation that specifically caters for students [unlike other cities have UniLodge etc]. realestate.com.au. share-accommodation.net sounds unpromising for my parents. Both of them are not looking forward on residential colleges too.

So yeah, feel free to express your opinions and solutions. Have been searching like mad over the internet. >.<
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Just my two cents worth.

I think that in the current climate, every major university in Australia that you go to, you will find problems with Asian stereotypes, especially in certain fields (Commerce majoring in accounting happens to be one of them). I really think that you shouldn't be basing your choice on this factor as it is going to be a problem wherever you go, even if some places it may be more pronounced than others. In such circumstances, your experience (ie your "chances of getting exposure interacting with other students") is purely dependent on your personality and social skills, and is entirely up to the individual, rather than which uni you go to. For example, if you are sociable and are able to "click" well with local students you won't have a problem mixing with their crowd. On the other hand, there are some asians that tend to stick to their own cliques and social circles. So it really depends.

As for the cold weather, its really a part of Australian life and theres no running away from it whichever uni you go to. If you're not fond of 5-6 degree temperatures, you won't be fond of anywhere in Australia during winter thats for sure (well anywhere where the major Us are located that is). This is especially more so since Australia has been having some unpredictable weather these past few years and you could be facing some cold weather even in regions where its "supposed" to be hot. For example, I live in Melbourne and at the start of summer earlier in December, we were still experiencing some 5 degree-ish temperatures. So my advice is, this is something you have to get used to and shouldn't base your choice on.

Rather, you should be basing your choice on:
1) The quality of the university
Is their teaching for the field that you are interested in any good? This may be very difficult to find out without a firsthand account from someone who has studied the particular course in the university. And certainly it would be difficult to also compare these accounts between unis, to find out which uni has a better quality of teaching. If the other forum members can't help you out, you could probably google around and see if you can find any feedback.
2) Student life
What do you intend to do once you get into university. Are academics your top priority or are you looking to get involved in student life on campus as well (for example joining a few clubs and societies)? Some unis may have a more vibrant clubs and societies (C&S) scene than others. Again, this is only quantifiable through firsthand experience, though going to the university website and looking at their student life may give you some indication of how vibrant it is.
3) Accommodation and transport
Sometimes the rental pricing for different universities can be very different as some may be located in suburbs and some located in the city. Try looking around online for rental prices around your university and compare. You might be surprised at the difference. Your rental will be a major part of your cost of living so its important to know these prices beforehand. If your uni is located in the city, you might also want to live in a suburb and take public transport.
4) Support group
I know it sounds superficial but its actually important to go somewhere where you already know people - it will help you fit in more quickly and get you on your feet faster. Remember, your friends are your family away from home. It shouldn't be decisive but if possible choose a uni where you have friends there already, or friends who are also going with you. It will make it so much easier. Another way around this is to stay in a hall/residential college as you will generally meet people quicker and feel more comfortable going into uni.

Hope that helps! I'm actually a recent graduate from the University of Melbourne (4 years in Chemical Engineering) so I know what its like to go overseas alone smile.gif Feel free to ask any other questions.



Also, I lived in a residential college when I first arrived in Melbourne and found it really great as I got to meet a lot of people and was also convenient for me. Any specific reasons why your parents are not looking forward to residential colleges? I definitely think their great, especially for first-year students going away to university alone.

This post has been edited by Luke1989: Jan 18 2011, 11:40 PM
Luke1989
post Jan 19 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Jan 19 2011, 02:52 PM)
My father was a previous PR holder (not anymore).

But I've asked about my situation in Australian High Commission and I was told I can get an Australian passport if I wanted to.
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If it were me I would go for Australian citizenship. Lots of students are going to Australia nowadays to study and to obtain their PR there afterwards. Now you have a chance to obtain citizenship (and the low fees that come with it) before you even start studying.

The only downside is of course losing out on your Malaysian citizenship. I don't really think its that big a deal since an Australian passport would be better. Things to find out would be whether you can still stay in Malaysia for prolonged periods after you obtain your Australian citizenship. I think its definitely possible since Malaysian laws would be less strict than Australian ones.

This is something you should be discussing with your parents. They would know best after all. And you also have to ask yourself what are your plans after you complete your medical degree. Will you want to stay on in Australia or will you want to come back to Malaysia to practice? These are all important things you should consider.

P.S. Reread your original post and noticed that you haven't started A-levels. Perhaps you should complete your pre-U before you consider your citizenship status? Its not that easy to get into Medicine in Australia after all.

This post has been edited by Luke1989: Jan 19 2011, 02:12 PM
Luke1989
post Jan 19 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(kakaakajes @ Jan 19 2011, 11:05 PM)
I actually dont agree completely. I mean yeah, alot of malaysians love to migrate overseas for the sake of better education, better like - thus obtaining PRs/citizenship overseas.
I dont know, but for me, I cant think that far, for my so-called "kids" and "family". Right now, after spending four years in Melbourne, I still cant feel at home and at peace at this place. I cant blend completely into the culture. What I see is that international students stick with each other, and local students look at intl students differently.
Basically what i am saying is that, unless one has been raised in a country for most of their life, it is very hard to really mix in and feel at home. For alot of PRs/intl students, they dont care if they can mix in with the locals anyway. They feel contented to just keep their social circles limited to intl students.

and besides, I dont think Australian primary/secondary educaton is all that great.
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You are right, not everyone can fit into the culture here. But for most of us Malaysians who've graduated from Australian tertiary education, a large portion of us still want to stay on in Australia, apply for our PR and work here. Its not so much to do with the better education system for our "future kids" but also we feel that we have a better life here. Theres more stability, the streets are safer, the quality of life is higher and of course the government is way better than the jokers elected into Malaysian parliament. This is not to say everything is perfect but we just feel that compared to Malaysia, we will have a better life here.

And most of us have plans to go back to Malaysia after a few years of work in Australia because in the long term we would still like to live in Malaysia. But its nice to know our kids will have a PR status and can afford to have the choices we never had. But that is really thinking too far ahead I guess.

I myself have also been in Melbourne 4 years. Recently graduated, and working as a research assistant with my university while I wait to lodge my PR application. Looking to land a job in Australia and then see how it goes. Also nice to know we have a higher purchasing power of 3:1 (albeit with insanely high taxes) tongue.gif

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