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 Next Gen Console: PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs. Wii, Next Gen speculation discussion

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post Jan 18 2006, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 18 2006, 05:56 PM)
Anyway, the PS3 will win due to it's games
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Like MGS4? Which is possibly coming to Xbox 360. RE5 is already coming. FFXII is coming too.

The Xbox 360 also has killer games. Halo 3?
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QUOTE(MobiusVyper @ Jan 18 2006, 09:00 PM)
Like MGS4? Which is possibly coming to Xbox 360. RE5 is already coming. FFXII is coming too.

The Xbox 360 also has killer games. Halo 3?
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you sure or not MGS4 will come to xb360? drool.gif dun give me false hope eh. mad.gif
got link for the news?
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post Jan 18 2006, 09:49 PM

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It's a possibility. Not a certainty. I remember the news post over at IGN. Here's the link:

MGS4 possible on Xbox 360
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post Jan 19 2006, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(MobiusVyper @ Jan 17 2006, 01:21 AM)
Alright so they have something like Xbox Live. And you say it's 2x more powerful than the Xbox 360. Well in terms of teraflops yes it is more powerful (although not quite 2x):
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However, the PS3's GPU is slightly less powerful than the 360's GPU:
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The Xbox 360 also has way more general processing power:
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And for system bandwidth, the Xbox 360 totally beats the PS3 to the ground:
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Conclusion
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.

However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games-by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services-will outperform the PlayStation 3.

Solid evidence Xbox 360 > PS3
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Those numbers don't really mean anything.

True that the 360 has more general purpose processing power, and the PS3 has more streaming floating point power, but exactly how much difference is anyone's guess. As for GPU performance, if RSX is indeed a higher clocked G70 then yes i think the 360 gpu will probably be a bit more powerful (mostly because it's more efficient) and have more flexibility.

If they want to count system bandwith that way, then i suggest they include the local storage bandwith on each PS3 SPE into the picture. In any case all those theoretical numbers mean nothing.

It's easy to get confused by marketing ppl if you don't know how they slice the numbers.

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post Jan 19 2006, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(MobiusVyper @ Jan 18 2006, 09:00 PM)
Like MGS4? Which is possibly coming to Xbox 360. RE5 is already coming. FFXII is coming too.

The Xbox 360 also has killer games. Halo 3?
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Nah...MGS online very likely coming to xb360 and also possible on pc too in an interview like few weeks back.
MGS 4 will not come to xb360 unless xb360 really sells like hot cake in japan...for now, it's ps3 exclusive.
New IP from them is possible though...
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post Jan 20 2006, 11:57 AM

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The PS3 games is over power then X-360..If you ask me to play Halo,i rather play counter strike or HalfLife.So i think PS3 is gonna win the X-360..
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post Jan 20 2006, 01:54 PM

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some news related to games for PS3 and Xbox360:

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Edge magazine reported that Electronic Arts currently has more PlayStation 3 titles in development than Xbox 360. The company currently has 20 titles planned for Xbox 360, but the number for PS3 is higher, exact number is unavailable.


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Capcom producer Hiroyuki Kobayashi mentioned that Devil May Cry 4 is not a PS3 exclusive title, the game maybe ported over to Xbox 360 and Revolution in future. In the game Dante can access more maneuvers, while the control will be further simplified, the play mechanism will be like DMC3.


DMC4 on xbox360? i'm sure lots of ppl will be happy to hear this... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Mido_Ban @ Jan 20 2006, 11:57 AM)
The PS3 games is over power then X-360..If you ask me to play Halo,i rather play counter strike or HalfLife.So i think PS3 is gonna win the X-360..
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can't understand your logic....... but look at your signature...i understood liao. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jan 20 2006, 01:54 PM)
some news related to games for PS3 and Xbox360:
DMC4 on xbox360? i'm sure lots of ppl will be happy to hear this...  thumbup.gif
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huh?? i tot DMC 4 is exclusive to ps3?? blink.gif

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At its beginning, the trailer declares prominently that the franchise will remain exclusive to Sony consoles, stating "PS3 Only" across the screen


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post Jan 25 2006, 08:28 PM

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Nintendo always used to use normal style controllers (buttons left and right. you know) now they bring in something completely new to the table.


it's not the first time, you know.

the snes controller had the first shoulder buttons(L, R), and the n64 controller had the first vibration functions and analog joystick. the gc's wavebird was also the first console 1st-party wireless controller in the market.
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QUOTE(nub @ Jan 25 2006, 08:28 PM)
it's not the first time, you know.

the snes controller had the first shoulder buttons(L, R), and the n64 controller had the first vibration functions and analog joystick. the gc's wavebird was also the first console 1st-party wireless controller in the market.
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Plus Nintendo was the first to use the "+" D-Pad used by NES if i'm not mistaken.
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No, the "+" D-pad harkens all the way back to the Nintendo Game & Watch laugh.gif
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post Feb 5 2006, 11:08 AM

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http://next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_c...d=2188&Itemid=2

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Xbox Live Arcade group manager Greg Canessa tells Next Generation that retro downloadable Nintendo games "won't hold up", and as far as a Sony online service goes... "good luck".

On Nintendo's retro service
"I think it was interesting to see Nintendo's announcement for the Revolution downloadable games service which, of course, came over a year after we launched our initiative internally and around nine months after we already launched the first generation of Arcade for Xbox. I think it was a responsive move. Their service is interesting in sort of a 'retro' way, but I view Arcade as being so much more than what they're planning on doing. Their service is kind of a subset of what we're doing. We have a retro coin-op category within Arcade - the Midway titles have been performing amazingly - and we're doing a lot more in that space.

On Sony's online strategy
"If Sony is trying to come at us, you know... 'good luck.' It's going to be really hard for them. It's just a huge engineering challenge, and beyond the engineering challenge, it takes a long time to build a community. Not to mention Arcade, because that has its own set of issues. You have to take time to build an ecosystem and talk to developers and get developers to put out games for that platform and work with them to plug into all of the underlying technologies that need to be in place and making sure it works properly."
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Greg Canessa, the Xbox Live Arcade group manager, has plenty to be proud of in the Arcade service. We're awfully fond of Geometry Wars, Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting will be huge, and we expect plenty more in the coming months and years. Hopefully Canessa isn't too proud...

When asked about Nintendo's forthcoming Virtual Console service, opening up the entire back catalog of Nintendo titles to Revolution gamers, Canessa poo-pooed it saying, "A lot of those Nintendo games, you know, aren't gonna hold up." And this differs from XBLA hits like Joust how? There are hundreds of classic Nintendo games that will hold up fine; don't count on Super Metroid disappointing anybody.

Canessa may join Sony in underestimating Nintendo's hugely popular properties... but not before he slams them too. Confronted with Sony's pie-in-the-sky ambitious online plans, Canessa responds, "If Sony is trying to come at us, you know... 'good luck.' It's going to be really hard for them. It's just a huge engineering challenge, and beyond the engineering challenge, it takes a long time to build a community."

We can't help but agree with Canessa on this point, but he should take a cue from Peter Moore: "You never underestimate the power of your competition." Moore understands that, no matter how great XBLA is, Sony will have no problem selling PS3s.
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WTF r u guys thinkin about MGS4 eith X360....no way man... X360 is just a tricked up computer man...

Xbox 360 is already been beaten by PS3 with the spec... PS3 is already known to be 2x better than X360... and that is not done yet..

The game in PS3 is better lor... about RE5 in xbox360 lol thats arite la...RE4 was for GC but then it came for PS2...FFXII is on x360 is just like a training ground for something hotter and greater for PS3...


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QUOTE(MobiusVyper @ Jan 18 2006, 09:00 PM)
Like MGS4? Which is possibly coming to Xbox 360. RE5 is already coming. FFXII is coming too.

The Xbox 360 also has killer games. Halo 3?
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FFXII is coming to XBOX360?? Sure or not? Source please! That's FF12 is current gen game for PS2!!! Don't bet on SquareEnix heavily supporting XBOX360 coz it's selling like last week fried rice over there in Japan.

Furthermore, all those games are CONFIRMED for PS3 while it's only rumours and talks of porting over to XBOX360.

Halo 3?? oh man...gimme a break... yawn.gif

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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Feb 5 2006, 02:22 AM)
WTF r u guys thinkin about MGS4 eith X360....no way man... X360 is just a tricked up computer man...

Xbox 360 is already been beaten by PS3 with the spec... PS3 is already known to be 2x better than X360... and that is not done yet..

The game in PS3 is better lor... about RE5 in xbox360 lol thats arite la...RE4 was for GC but then it came for PS2...FFXII is on x360 is just like a training ground for something hotter and greater for PS3...
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If the 360 is a tricked up computer, then the PS3 is an even more tricked up computer. I don't understand your logic. Oh wait, there is no logic.



QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 6 2006, 08:41 PM)
Halo 3?? oh man...gimme a break...  yawn.gif
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I bet you said the same about halo2 laugh.gif
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post Feb 10 2006, 12:27 AM

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all u ps3 gheyfarksfanboyzsluts can goto ur little corner n wait like a good boy will the ps3 comes out mkay.. till its not out.. x360 owns the console scene, for me at least.. n pls dont say that "oh the ps3 is so fxing hawt n its gonna kick the x360 a$$.. " coz the ps3 is NOT OUT YET.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Feb 10 2006, 12:20 AM)
I bet you said the same about halo2 laugh.gif
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Yes. that's right. Halo 1,2,3,4...X is nothing but another crappy FPS. There's a gazillion better looking and better playing FPS games on the PC and elsewhere.

and get this: Japanese HATES FPS. Halo?? Hello?? Mushi Mushi??

As it is, the XBOX360 still sells like last week fried rice in the land of the Sushi kings.

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 9 2006, 10:01 PM)
Yes. that's right. Halo 1,2,3,4...X is nothing but another crappy FPS. There's a gazillion better looking and better playing FPS games on the PC and elsewhere.

and get this: Japanese HATES FPS. Halo?? Hello?? Mushi Mushi??

As it is, the XBOX360 still sells like last week fried rice in the land of the Sushi kings.

tongue.gif
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Well your opinion seems rather inconsequential. Halo2 sales made all time records despite all that.

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 10 2006, 11:01 AM)
Yes. that's right. Halo 1,2,3,4...X is nothing but another crappy FPS. There's a gazillion better looking and better playing FPS games on the PC and elsewhere.
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How you know when you don't play FPS tongue.gif laugh.gif

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