Just what do u guys predict and wants from the next gen consoles?

Personally in general, i would like to see:
-built-in VGA output!!! There doesn't seems like a good reason why this isn't included (other than cost factor). Not only that, having the option for multiple TV/monitor output will open up new possibilities.

-Built in HDD is a must!! But seems like cost factor is again taking this out of XBOX2 and there's no news of PS3 having built in HDD. And oh, just make sure the HDD is a standard PC IDE HDD..

-NO MORE CRAP SEQUELS!! If they can't make good sequels, just don't make it!

For the PS3, i would like to see:
-IMPROVED IMAGE QUALITY!! With Nvidia around, I'm quite sure we'll finally have a formula for JAGGIES-BE-GONE!!

-A bit more generous with the video RAM. I hope it's not another 4MB video ram fiasco that makes the PS2 texture so flat.

-More durable machines!!!

-DD5.1 realtime encoding!!

-No more crappy 8MB memory card. It's understandable they wanna make it propriatery...but at least use the SONY Memory stick or something bigger...but price will be prohibitive though. There's no way they'll allow standard cheap CF cards to be use...sigh..

-An instruction manuals to developers:
"Teach yourself to code the PS3 in 21 days without losing your hair." Now that the CELL is confirmed to have 8+1 cores ( with 10 cores executable in parallel, the last core can have 2 threads or something like that). Just hope that they have a proper suppport for developers or nobody will be able to use it except Ken Kutagari.

More news here about PS3:
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15015-1483-x-x-x



For the XBOX2, i would like to see:
-A better console design!! Currently, it looks too much like a BOX with an X on it.

-Backward compatibility!

-More Japanese RPG and games! If they can get this right, they'll be serious contender to SONY PS3.

My prediction of hardware superiority:
Somehow I've a feeling that the PS3 will be the most powerful hadrware around this time...by virtue it'll be released about 1 year later than XBOX2. Provided that the Cell don't turn out to be another Saturn+PS2. MS is taking the steps of SEGA by releasing a console early to capture the market...as long as they don't make the same mistake as SEGA did.

My prediction of software superiority:
I still don't see Japanese developers clamoring onboard XBOX2...eventhough SquareEnix did mentioned interest in XBOX2....i think SONY has some % of share in Square...so...Western support for XBOX2 will be there though, so the situation likely remains unchanged.

Oh yeah... i forgot to mentioned Nintendo? Seriously...I've no interest in them.

In a few months time, more questions shall be answered at GDC & E3.

Things is looking interesting!

This post has been edited by H@H@: Apr 30 2006, 11:49 PM

More cell read up in relation to RAMBUS. It's lucky for RAMBUS that SONY is still dealing with them after all their failure on the PC platform. Looks like they'll have another go at the PC market.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2341

On another note....there seems very little info about the XBOX2 (rumours or otherwise) being out...it's quite suprising since the XBOX2 should be out 1 whole year before the PS3....and Nintendo is even worst...totally no info.

But let's not forget one interesting though....IBM is involved in ALL the consoles CPU, one way or another...The Cell=SONY+TOSHIBA+IBM, PowerPC(xbox2)=IBM+Motorola?, and Revolution also uses a chip which IBM is involved...POWERPC also??

I wonder if there's some agreement that prevents IBM from being 3-headed snake...hee-hee...take the tech developed from one company and bring it to the other...

Maybe they should have a division called IGM instead...INTERNATIONAL GAMING MACHINE!!

Not more RPGs...but GREAT RPGs...the RPGs on the PS2 has been mostly sad sequels except the FF series. It just doesn't have the strong RPG precesnce of the PS1.

SQUARE-ENIX has expressed "interest" in the XBOX2, but as far as I'm concerned, it's going to be all talk only...if SONY is still holding those shares in Square-Enix, there's no way Square-Enix is going anywhere near the next-box.

And oh yeah...where the heck is the sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics!!! There just isn't any good "tactics" RPG games this generation.

Yes..if the XBOX2 does have 3 versions...it's going to be quite weird...how do they plan to control the software version? Does the high-end XBOX2(rumoured to be a PC+XBOX2) have hardware advantage? Upgradable? if that's the case, the traditional software advantage development on console will be compromised as developers have to take in consideration of future upgradability.

anyway, the next gen won't be a viable buy until maybe 2/3 years later(consider 1st next gen console is XBOX2, and released end of this year)...when price has dropped and the "ahem" chip has stabilized...

Err..can't see anything..only black screen with side bar and top bar...anyone else have same problem or just my PC??

Rumours...that the XBOX2 will NOT be usind HD-DVD...probably too expensive to make the media and drive....which, IMO is GOOD.

IF XBOX2 stick to DVD, PS3 use BR-DVD...than we can guess which machine will have "P"...and become a worldwide best seller...hee-hee.

That Revolution picture is SO FAKE. We could probably rig a much better shot than that.

At least the toilet bowl fake of the PS2 was innovative.

SQUARE DEVELOPS FOR XBOX 2!!!

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/590/590650p1.html?fromint=1

Well....sort of, but it's good....given that PS3 is looking the way of BR-ROM...XBOX 2 could be the only choice of the next generation.

Don't be so sure. Even DVD takes some time to become mass market. And when PS2 was released, DVD has been around for ages(in fact DVD has been around for years before the launch of PS2). With BR-DVD, there's NONE on the market and PS3 will probably be the world's first consumer BR-DVD player as well.

Err..Blu Ray, i think can store about 30GB. Double sided Blue Ray can store about 50GB...

How do you transfer 30GB to a 9GB disc???

of course, the actual game itself might not be that big, but i've no doubt developers will either be cramming more useless FMV onto it or just dump some dummy files in there to fill up the disc...

Read somewhere. It seems like the CELL isn't really 8 cores...More like 2 cores + 8 SIMD extension, in a technical analysis somewhere.

So, it might not be that much more powerful than the other next-gen console as initially thought. Have to wait n see.

Aiya Nintendo...always acting weird one...3rd party is the KEY to a console success. The PSX was the prove of that when they sapu all the 3rd parties from Nintendo and SEGA.

Still cannot learn from mistakes...

Huh? XBOX 2 no sound chip???? Err...why ler? Sound chip is cheap nowadays. Using the CPU to handle the sound/music will take away some of those processing power...

But since the media remains as DVD, it's good news for us..

But i can't understand...why use specialize mem card....allow us to plug in cheap thumbdrive lar!!! But at least it's not only 8MB...

As for the HDD, i wonder if we can plug in standard IDE/SATA HDD again like XBOX or MS learnt it's lesson and use some propriatery connector....

Somehow, I've a feeling that the industry might be killing itself with it's own weight...some developers commented that next-gen games are going to cost a heck lot more with more people needed and longer time to develop.

With all this factor in mind, publisher and developer will try to stay safe to tried and true formula...we are already seeing less and less original games this generation, only more sequels based on successful franchise.

I don't hope to see another industry blowout like the days of the Atari...

And yes, i think ori price will only go higher....i wish there's game rental in Malaysia too, i wouldn't mind renting original games which can play online and other benefits. But the cost is too prohibitive (imagine, one game is RM200 to RM300.....1000 titles in the library will cost RM200K to RM300K already)...and i don't think it can survive...look at DVD rental...only a few shop (only one i know of, actually, in Mont Kiara), which probably struggling to survive.

Here's an extremely nice read on tech details of the CELL chip.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2379

Seems like it might not be much more powerful than the XBOX2 3 Dual Cores PowerPC chip....more importantly....IT DOESN'T SOUNDS LIKE EASY PROGRAMMING AT ALL.....seems like it's the PS2 all over again....at least, with Nvidia at helm with the GPU, we don't have to worry so much about jaggies!!!

I agreed with hangmen...it is all getting pretty stale...frankly, i don't need next gen console rite now....the current gen console are just fine especially the XBOX. And i'm not excited at all by MS GDC presentation which shows a lot of useless online features, more ways to squeeze money from gamers, and even....horrors!! advertisment in your games!!!

If the next gen turns out like this, I'll just keep playing the current consoles and dig up all the old ROMS and emulators....there's a whole lot of games in there!

Yeah...upgradable consoles...SURE DIE. History has prove it self many times over since the 70's...there were many consoles no one remember today that has provide upgrades even before SEGA CD or 32X....all failed.

For a good look at consoles history , pls go to: www.classicgaming.com

You'll be enlightened.

I still think XBOX 360 is a dumb name...but i can see why MS don't want to call it XBOX2 as it'll be deemed inferior to the PS "3".

But at least give it a better name...XBOX Windows?? LOL.

I hope it don't turn out as a yo-yo. LOL. 360 indeed. Stupidest name ever for a console? But then again Dreamcast sounds stupid also..

The phantom is some of the dumbest idea in decades. It has zero unique selling point.

(1) NO CONSOLE GAMES. - it's just playing standard PC games in a console! Console gamers don't want this sh**.

(2) UNDERPOWERED PC - As PC gamers are more likely to invest in high-end hardware and worry more about FRAMES PER SECOND/3D MARK 05 scores than the game itself, the phantom is outdated even before it hit shelves.

(3) INFERIOR ONLINE GAMING - PC Online gamers and XBOX Live is already well established. There's no need for this.

(4) BROADBAND DOWNLOAD - Not everyone has broadband. it is just limiting it's own market.

Basically console gamers will shun it because there's no console specific games while PC gamers will ignore it because it's an outdated piece of crap.

They should just give me their money to invest in a burger stall or something.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Apr 12 2005, 09:06 PM