didn't realize here got next gen consoles debate. anyway, think i read it on yesterday in-tech, 360 is using cpu thats way lower than ps3 cpu. microsoft say because they don't want the console become too expensive, so they are sacrificing the specs. sony on the other hand are pushing all the specs up without regards for the price because they want the most powerful console ever made. both are taking extremely huge risk with their new strategies. and revolution will use 12" disc. is that the normal disc size? or normal wun is 8"?

Nanotech to increase DVD capacity to 850 GByte
Hmm...dvd is not dead yet!!!

Ya if sony promises to deliver all of that spec, it will be the most expensive hardware compare to xb360 & revolution unless they wana do it like first xbox, otherwise it will has disadvantage in price war.

wow.850 GB? do we need that?

Games lineup is still the most important...
E.G If they released a ps3 and still release metal gear series,devil may cry and final fantasy series on the ps2..then why get the ps3?
Simple concept..

nah,square enix tradition is make 3 or 4 game for a console then shift,MGs 4 is confirmed for ps3 so hardly it will go for ps2 since it would take double load

even if the dvd get upgraded to such large capacity, current dvd drive cannot read the new disc. hence, it will be the same as upgrading to HD-DVD.

next gen console all are targeting for HDtv, but read it yesterday that only 3 out of 10 home in U.S got HDtv. the real question is how good will it look on normal tv.

that you have to wait untill 2006 to get your answer sine no company would say that it sucks at normal tv,it would deter normal customer like us

if a game is made with HDTV in mind, there will be many tiny and small things that will make the game look more real. but hook up to normal tv with those vertical black line, imagine how real will it look?

Where did you get that info about no cache and no DMA from?



Well as we have discussed earlier in this thread, the performance for the XB360 CPU and the PS3 CPU will probably differ depending on the application. I think it was more of a design decision than a sacrifice.
I think they were saying that the Revolution uses 12cm discs. No one wants 12" discs anymore

Playstation 3 GPU is still in development

anyway ,lots of speculator at this moment,can only see the final result,sigh so long time

They were probably using the upcoming G70 chip for the tech demos (assuming they were all rendered in real time)

assuming they dont use the G70 and rsx for the demo,what chip they use? 2 geforce 6800 ultra?

Well it's by NVIDIA's CFO himself, so it isn't really some speculation.

Now the question lies on whether the RSX could live up the expectation or it could be much stronger?

I doubt it. They have already taped out the G70, so i'm sure they were using that if not the RSX

now i got better idea for sony if RSX fail,use G70 or use 3 geforce 6800 ultra since they said RSX is more then 2 of it

Hey guess what? It's not going to happen. Those other chips are not made for the PS3 architecture/interface.

damn,was hoping to sell that idea to sony for millions ,anyway gonna sleep now,wonder what tomorrow install for me,cell manufacturing factory on fire?

Yes go to sleep already, this topic has been derailed enough.

Btw look what i found: http://winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_vs_ps3.asp

It's easier for the reading impaired, but a lot of the stuff there is not final yet.

Hey, if it can look like the CG of Tekken, Soul Calibur, FF series etc in real-time, I'm satisfied liao.

It looks damn good even on old SDTV.