Yes, it's all speculation. But, there was NOTHING balance about the analysis. In fact, it wasn't any analysis. If it's from anandtech or tomshardware or ars-technica, then it's an analysis. This is just pure marketing crap.

And how can you even SPECULATE that XBOX360 is more powerful than Revolution when there is ZERO info of the Revolution hardware specs available?????

This post has been edited by Matrix: May 25 2005, 12:55 PM

Nintendo already said that their next generation console would not be big and powerful like the rest. Their target was only 2-3 times more powerful than the Gamecube. So some of us put 2 and 2 together.... and what do you know....

I agree that ars-technica has good technical discussions about such things. I reserve comment on tomshardware and anandtech, for i do not read them anymore.

It's an analysis. Look at the charts, those are what you would find in an analysis.

Regarding the speculation of the Revolution spec, Nintendo did say that it's 2 or 3 times more powerful than GC.

Again, the analysis this is based on speculative data. Don't grill the presenter (IGN) if the data is inaccurate, grill Microsoft.

Well it is not Microsoft's official stand on the matter anyway. It's written in the guy's blog.

Ah... grill him then.

Well there was a pretty good discussion going on at his blog site already. Go look for it and grill him if you want. Anyway this is not a people bashing thread, so lets get back to the topic.

now the whole e3 is over,so does this thread,not much of new hype to keep this running

Well i think the purpose of this thread is not to run on hype

So far the details have been coming out slowly, there will be more revelations over these next few months or so.

Nah, this is where it truly begins seeing as almost all of them have laid their cards on the table. If anything its gonna get pretty hot as each company will now try and one-up each other by boasting title releases, specs and even some mudslinging

so now they hinted PS3 will be selling for 370 USD,same price for the last PS3 when it first come out and ken kutaragi said that the PS3 will be an entertaiment supoercom,will this dream be realise?

I couldn't agree more. It really gets me when people gets offended with certain analysis skewed towards a particular console. They're tonnes of it out there, one just need to take an unbiased stance and go through these articles objectively.

Hey, the PS2 was a "supercomputer" when they launch it. Remember the "missile launching" fiasco and the US ban of export to China and elsewhere?? People were jokingly saying Saddam hoarding the PS2 to strike at the US! Ha-ha!

I wonder what missile are they going to launch this time. LOL.

ai,enough of polictics,we are here to talk about hardware not missiles or politics

I think i forgot to type in "ban of export of <b>PS2</b> to China and elsewhere".

I seriously doubt Sony's approach of the PS3 core. 7 DSP (SPE) without L1 cache is unthinkable.

DSP are good at crunching data at high MIPS, in this case floating numbers. I would think that it would be prudent to at least have a data cache (D-cache). Without cache the bottleneck would likely be the access latency to the DRAM (whichever type it is). It just make more sense to have cache.

Well, we'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

EDIT: And no DMA too!!

This post has been edited by ray_: May 25 2005, 02:33 PM

well,so far most agree that we dont give a damn about the hardware just the games after games rulez

According to some blog...PS3 specs like the 7 port bluetooth etc are just concept, the final machine won't have that many ports...it was just a concept to see what's the feedback, what the gamers want.

Hope that's true, having 7 bluetooth port isn't wise in term of the cost.

well, like it or not, hardware is wat determines aspects of the games... aspects such as graphics quality, loading times, etc etc...

for me, i believe all next-gen games should not have obscene loading times... it may be a small thing, but i'm sure it matters to some

that also depends on the developers..
we know some game can look worst and loads like a sloth
and yet some game look so gorgeous and without any loading times..

hardware is like a weapon, but the skills also major matters here..

I think last time right, they claimed PS2 is capable of controlling "cruise missle" from afar. Xbox on the other hand, can control "Nuclear missile".

Lol!

Back on topic, I was wondering when Nintendo going to show off the controllers for Revolution?