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Next Gen Console: PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs. Wii, Next Gen speculation discussion
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ikanayam
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 Jan 21 2007, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jan 20 2007, 12:39 PM) Like i said earlier: PGR3 runs at a lower res and no-AA. If AA is free and easily implemented, why isn't it in PGR3? Some other games on Xbox360 has its fair share of jaggies as well.  It needs some work on the part of the developer, clearly not 0 work, and PGR was a launch title. I guess they had to cut some corners to get it ready on time. Microsoft mandates AA in all titles, a develper has to get a waiver from them if they want to get away with not using the feature. This makes me certain that more newer games on the 360 will have AA on than not. And i'm sure it will be more so than the PS3, which was the point of comparison in the first place. Btw AFAIK PGR3 at lower resolution settings (480p) does enable 4xAA, and some people pick the wrong resolution settings for their display which makes the game look worse than it really is. I may have come off a little biased in my previous posts, and i apologize for that. No, really. And once again, i never said ALL games would use AA.  This post has been edited by ikanayam: Jan 21 2007, 02:19 AM |
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PrivateJohn
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Jan 21 2007, 02:41 AM
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ODST m cry.
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Here's a fact : London Bayswater 4 season duck rice very teh nice...best in teh world:P Anyway...here's a short interview with god of war creator, David Jaffe (which was edited out from the 1up show) linkageI give the above interview 5 thumbs up...hillarious too. |
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acougan
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Jan 21 2007, 08:02 AM
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LoL, this topic still have legs!? IINM, mr TS already stated his disdain for next-gen games/consoles. topic should now be amended to "retro games and new-gen console FTWii"  This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 21 2007, 08:52 AM |
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empire23
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Jan 21 2007, 01:08 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jan 21 2007, 01:39 AM) Like i said earlier: PGR3 runs at a lower res and no-AA. If AA is free and easily implemented, why isn't it in PGR3? Some other games on Xbox360 has its fair share of jaggies as well. No performance hit doesn't mean 0 work dear. You still have to sit down and implement the feature. |
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redbull_y2k
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Jan 21 2007, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:08 PM) No performance hit doesn't mean 0 work dear. You still have to sit down and implement the feature. Like ikanayam mentioned earlier, PGR3 does indeed has 4X AA @ 480p which was added later after the game was launched through online update. But no AA at 720p which should be the norm?  Surely there could be some performance trade-off here. If AA is indeed 'free' on Xbox360 then shouldn't it had AA on 720p as well? This post has been edited by redbull_y2k: Jan 21 2007, 02:55 PM |
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ikanayam
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Jan 21 2007, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jan 21 2007, 01:53 AM) Like ikanayam mentioned earlier, PGR3 does indeed has 4X AA @ 480p which was added later after the game was launched through online update. But no AA at 720p which should be the norm? Surely there could be some performance trade-off here. If AA is indeed 'free' on Xbox360 then shouldn't it had AA on 720p as well? 4xAA at 480p is practically free performance as well as effort wise. At 720p i think there's some tiling involved when using 4xAA so there is some effort involved, but performance wise it should be practically free as well. Same with higher resolutions. |
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eone
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Jan 22 2007, 11:17 AM
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Damn i luv PGR3 so much!!, loves the graphics.
even pgr2 got AA, looks nice on my hdtv, i think that the game still based on the xbox architecture, and not using the 'free AA' capability at that time.
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Gon Freaks
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Jan 23 2007, 09:26 PM
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erk..playing game is always about the game n the gameplay....it does not matter how powerfull the console can be...or how graphically capable the console is..what matters most is that you have fun playing it...the new GT for ps3 would be considered as godly graphic..but u have to pay for each thing in the game??? wth? that is seriously not fun...althought it is still a rumor...
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karom
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Jan 23 2007, 11:59 PM
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i really do hope wii will somehow imported to Malaysia. It has joy games to enjoy.
But for PS3, i do hope that the price will drop a bit. Anyone ever try playing Online from PS3 console?
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PrinceOfPersia
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Jan 24 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(karom @ Jan 23 2007, 11:59 PM) i really do hope wii will somehow imported to Malaysia. It has joy games to enjoy. But for PS3, i do hope that the price will drop a bit. Anyone ever try playing Online from PS3 console? Resistance Fall of Men - 40 players no lag, ask bro redbull  |
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karom
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Jan 25 2007, 01:10 AM
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Wow....thats great to hear that....u certainly have 60GB version, arent you?
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silencer
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Jan 25 2007, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jan 24 2007, 08:53 PM) Resistance Fall of Men - 40 players no lag, ask bro redbull I guess because the rest playing Gears of War or COD 3..just kidding.... Respect to PS3 too..but put on hold my decision to buy PS3 due to lack of good titles.....will definitely buy it one....  |
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Hwoarang45
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Jan 25 2007, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(karom @ Jan 23 2007, 11:59 PM) i really do hope wii will somehow imported to Malaysia. It has joy games to enjoy. But for PS3, i do hope that the price will drop a bit. Anyone ever try playing Online from PS3 console? checked my siggy  QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jan 24 2007, 08:53 PM) Resistance Fall of Men - 40 players no lag, ask bro redbull whoa, 40 players no lag? how they connect to? to foreign server? gonna get my ps3 after CNY,(hopefully angpow will increase this year  ) first game i gonna play is resistant hahahaa.. anyone tested Armoredcore 4? i saw ta game at my friend's place but cant find any reviews yet... wonder is it good or not~ |
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xxboxx
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Jan 27 2007, 02:40 PM
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Gamasutra Questions Analysts: Which Console Will Win 2007?QUOTE They are the professional analysts whose job it is to research, keep track of, advise their clients, and opine to the media about the gaming business. 'Analyze This' cuts right to the chase: Rather than reporting on a subject, and throwing in quotes by analysts to support or refute a point, Gamasutra offers up a timely question pertaining to the business side of the video game industry and simply lets the analysts offer their thoughts directly to you. Each person's opinion is his own and will (probably) not necessarily agree with their fellow colleagues'.
As we enter 2007, we at Gamasutra wondered what overall predictions the analysts have for the industry. Obviously, this is a very significant year for each of the three console manufacturers. So we asked Mike Wolf of ABI Research, David Cole of DFC Intelligence and Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities the following:
* Is the Wii destined to soon be the #1 next generation console? What do you think could prevent this from being the year when Nintendo reigns supreme?
* Microsoft has surpassed 10 million Xbox 360s sold, but do you think the console will be on track to sell more than the original Xbox (which was a money loser for Microsoft)? What do you expect Microsoft to do this year for the 360 (a price cut?)? What do you think the company should do?
* Finally, the big question: the PlayStation 3. Has Sony given too much priority to winning the high-def DVD war over console gaming to affect its bottom line? Is the company stealthily lying in wait? What do you theorize is Sony's strategy, and what's your opinion of it? i personally believe wii will have the most console sales. but in term of numbers software titles, wii will lose to ps3 and 360.
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PrivateJohn
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Mar 8 2007, 03:57 AM
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ODST m cry.
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Okay...this is the first time in the year i really goto praise Sony for doing something right. The PS3's HomeXbox Live need competition to balance things out (because there are alot of rip-off going on lately), and this Playstation Home might be the big challenger. It is really really really cool. I just started Second life not long ago & playstation home is like a hybrid of second life with gaming... |
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snipersnake
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Mar 8 2007, 01:30 PM
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wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
personally, i think wwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii is the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
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obefiend
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Mar 11 2007, 06:45 PM
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MEH! i wont play a console with crap gfx. same as i wont buy a geforce 6200 over a 8800gtx. how is that for analogy!
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stringfellow
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Mar 11 2007, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(obefiend @ Mar 11 2007, 06:45 PM) MEH! i wont play a console with crap gfx. same as i wont buy a geforce 6200 over a 8800gtx. how is that for analogy! Your analogy might be true if the Wii and Xbox360/PS3 differs by graphical power only. But playing on Wii is not the same as playing on the rest, it is the experience with motion sensor that makes the experience different. Does your 8800GTX, with all its rendering power, able to play games that simulate motion sensing in 3D space? How's that for a comeback? |
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obefiend
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Mar 11 2007, 10:30 PM
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touche but the graphical difference is quite clear between WII and 360/ps3. have u seen the COD3 gfx comparison? you can call me a gfx whore. i never buy into the whole motion sensing thingy. if i want to do some motion sensing i play real life athletic game. thats my POV in this console wars.no disrespect to WII-natics out there.
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stringfellow
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Mar 12 2007, 12:59 AM
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I have all three, PS3, Xbox 360 and a Wii. Weird enough, i too am like you, i like pretty graphics. But i suggest you reserve your comments till you actually TRIED your hands on the Wii and the games it has before making that blanket statement. Between the three, Wii felt more involving and draws you into the game with its experience, unlike pressing buttons and seeing it happens on screen, Wii demands you move your lazy arse off the couch to do the very act performed on screen.
If you have not tried it, shut it. It's easy to dismiss something at face value just by seeing it at first glance.
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