this is the same as phiten...tech from Japan instead...

http://www.phitenmy.com/

He's considering A550, since that's body only. he'll need to find a lense.

Kmarc
You're buying to shoot your kid. Forget about the 50mm, go for the kit 1855 + F20 flash. Then worry about other things.

Can't remember who was asking why 1855 instead of 1870, because 1855 is newer mar.. It's also slightly better right? Personally I don't know since I only had the 1870.

wow so cool? where to get in msia?

Errr.. what does all these snake oil products have to do with sony cameras?

It claims that you'll have a rock solid stability. Hence put IS/VR/SSS to obsolete . Perhaps can do light trails using hand held only

where to get power balance? i would like to try it hahah

Let's just agree to not talk about this anymore. Not to mention.. light trails no need to be stable one wat! It's light moving!

marauderz: i dun understand why can't we talk bout this? it's a free topic isn't it to keep the thread moving? if that is the case, shall we stop talking about Laws, Credit Cards, and etc even though it relates to photography 1 way or another?

p.s: phiten is base on titanium that has gone thru phild process and NOT some snake oil...sigh...u'll need to get ur facts straight...

This post has been edited by finejava: Jan 15 2010, 10:47 AM

You need to stabilize your camera using tripod in order to catch a clean light trail. yes the light is moving but your camera needs to be rock solid static. I am half sold on this. If its a placebo effect it is a good placebo effect imho. So if can try first definitely going to get it.

Nope. I don't have a kitlens or even a DSLR!!!! I have a digital compact camera that cost me RM799.....

Basically, I never used a DSLR before.... I'm still a virgin.....

Thanx for the clarification. That lens would be good for taking my baby's picture.


Right. After all the poisoning and advices (which I really appreciate ), I have decided to get this (unless I changed my mind again):
1) A550
2) The 50 mm f1.8
3) The 1855
4) F20 flash

Any other poison for me? Anyway, I still have one week before the stock comes to Sibu. Still have time to poison me....

This post has been edited by kmarc: Jan 15 2010, 10:55 AM

My bad, I wanted to refer to the power balance thing. Not the Phiten one. But the reply didn't show back the video.

OK ok, my bad for imposing my thoughts that this is a less than useful topic on everyone else.

Do you really need F20? Why not straight away use F42 (considering F58 is too much). I've read about F20 and it got bad reviews in term of power. Other than the ability to bounce , the power is somewhat equal as you pop up flash. Considering how high your ceiling will be does the power is enough bounce back to your subject? Correct me if i am wrong ya.

I feel that if you're on a budget you should leave the 50mm first, unless that's part of the package and you don't have a choice lar. Then again...

Basically so if you need something to INSTANTLY justify the price of the SLR. The first shot you need to take with the 50mm is of your kid's face.. up close.. switch camera to A mode, turn the dial on your right hand to the left until the screen says F1.8 and take the picture, oh.. make sure the background got things so can see the bokeh effect.

Then show your wife the creamy bokeh shot and she will immediately say "Wow.. thats the quality of an SLR lar?"


Doesn't work if your wife reads LowYat.net lar.

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F42 a smarter choice

Thats why. F20 is meant to be a flash commander for high end bodies that don't have popup flash. But yeah its all in your expectation. I am just another insight. Its better to read around first before regrets purchasing it.

This post has been edited by Uzumaki NaruTo: Jan 15 2010, 11:16 AM

Increasing Flash compenstation strength in the camera seems to be the key to increasing the F20's power. I guess I should do some systematic testing to confirm that. But I do know that when I step up the Flash fill in stength in the camera the F20 does whirl louder, and it blinds people more.

The other reason is that KMarc is using the camera to take pictures of his kid. Bulky camera + Bulky lens + Bulky flash = LOW Spouse Acceptance Factor. Only with the F20 did my wife finally decide to use my A350 to take pictures last time. She didn't want to hold it with the F32 err.. 36.. the older flash

since you ask for poison... my suggestion is
1) A550
2) CZ1680 or Tamron 1750 f2.8
3) F58 flash



nb: is the CZ A550 package still available ?

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Jan 15 2010, 11:37 AM

Fellas need to ask your opinion. Does the image below looks underexpose? I am using a matted lcd so i don't know whether it is properly exposed already or not.




Many thanks in advance.

i'm suggest 1855 with F42, F20 not really suitable.. if u can buy 50 prime i shoot, its even better..