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post Feb 1 2010, 11:19 PM

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Nice. I like that big Red Eye White bunny....reminds me of CNY milk candy...LOL!

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QUOTE(fyire @ Feb 1 2010, 03:58 PM)
I started with those cages before, and what I can say is that it only lasts around 2.5 years++. While they won't be able to chew through metal, they can chew through the coating of the metal, and it'll start rusting within a few months. Fast forward 2 years later, and the exposed metal will start rusting through (especially the bottom bars)
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oh izit??what cages do u use now?stainless steal ones??i saw some in ace hardware
..my bunny don't chew the bars..hehe..or should i say she has not develope that habit yet..her fav hobby is to play with the cat balls with the bells inside
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:43 PM)
oh izit??what cages do u use now?stainless steal ones??i saw some in ace hardware
..my bunny don't chew the bars..hehe..or should i say she has not develope that habit yet..her fav hobby is to play with the cat balls with the bells inside
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the brand is King Fischer. These are more of dog cages actually, where the gaps between the bars are 1.5 inch. So be careful with baby bunnies, they can squeeze through the bars. In fact, my dwarf hotot was going in and out of the cage as he likes up till 4 months of age; that's when he got too big to squeeze through. Furthermore, the bars are around 4mm thick, twice the 2mm of the normal cages. I don't know how to describe what the metal is like, not stainless steel, but it doesn't rust though.

I can't exactly say how much these sell for, as I seldom see them around, but they're definitely cheaper than Ace's hardware's stuff (although more expensive than the normal cages). I got my 3 cages off Beh & Yo.
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hi guys,
im back to update a few pics of hunny
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bunny flop, hehe
please dont mind the quality of the pic
it was taken using my lousy cellphone
have to capture this quickly 'cause he's one light sleeper

i was wondering,
is it ok to feed hunny orchard grass instead of timothy?
'cause he likes orchard grass more
he can finish a 400+g pack in 2 weeks time
since i switch him back to timothy
he hasnt been eating much rclxub.gif

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post Feb 2 2010, 03:02 AM

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hi guys. i'm new here, i just bought this cute bunnies and would want to proprly take good care of them. my first time to have pet bunnies... rclxms.gif

i forgot to ask how young they are.. both about 5-6 inches long

My daughter named them, Boy & Krissy, icon_rolleyes.gif

White-D "Krissy"
Gray-B "Boy"



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post Feb 2 2010, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(Jean_ne @ Feb 2 2010, 12:23 AM)
hi guys,
im back to update a few pics of hunny
biggrin.gif

Attached Image
side profile ^^

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bunny flop, hehe
please dont mind the quality of the pic
it was taken using my lousy cellphone
have to capture this quickly 'cause he's one light sleeper

i was wondering,
is it ok to feed hunny orchard grass instead of timothy?
'cause he likes orchard grass more
he can finish a 400+g pack in 2 weeks time
since i switch him back to timothy
he hasnt been eating much  rclxub.gif
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hunny is so beautiful..
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post Feb 2 2010, 04:55 PM

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New rabbit owner rclxms.gif had them for 4 days now.They're supposed to be 2months old and are weaned already. What do you guys think?Do they look 2 months?
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I'm worried since I read somewhere in the rabbit corner that one guy lost his rabbit after getting it for only 10 days possibly due to giving them fresh vegetables. I've been feeding them fresh greens since I got them and they seem fine. List of things I gave them are carrots, cucumber, pucuk ubi(dunno what's this called in english), some picked grass, dandelions, leafy soft leaves(does that make sense?) and my mother's flowers( a favorite for them) and just bought their pellets and some alfalfa hay. I know we're supposed to give 2month old rabbits a diet of alfalfa hay and pellets but the rabbits don't seem to take on hay.And I read that pellets shouldnt be their main diet anyways. They seem to love the leaves I picked. so I let them eat it as snacks along with the carrots.Worried about whether I'd see them dead in 10 days too. But there doesn't seem to be a symptom of diarrhea from what we've been feeding them. And they only nibble on the hay. It usually lay forgotten. Another problem I have is that they dont seem to use the water bottle. I tried showing them how it works. coercing them to come near it with food and all but they dont seem interested in it.Really worried they'd get dehydration but if I put a bowl of water it wont be hygienic for them. rclxub.gif O ya, how much is rabbit harness?

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My auntie has bought 2 rabbits and she said that their butt's fur has turned yellowish. She asked me to help her to shower those rabbits. Anyone can assist me the best way to shower those rabbits? Help me
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QUOTE(hazeeq87 @ Feb 2 2010, 05:55 PM)
My auntie has bought 2 rabbits and she said that their butt's fur has turned yellowish. She asked me to help her to shower those rabbits. Anyone can assist me the best way to shower those rabbits? Help me
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You don't shower them rabbits. Besides, such are likely to be pee stains, and are extremely difficult to remove. So instead, you'll need to wait for them to molt, then just pluck off the yellowish fur.


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New rabbit owner  rclxms.gif had them for 4 days now.They're supposed to be 2months old and are weaned already. What do you guys think?Do they look 2 months?
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I'm worried since I read somewhere in the rabbit corner that one guy lost his rabbit after getting it for only 10 days possibly due to giving them fresh vegetables. I've been feeding them fresh greens since I got them and they seem fine. List of things I gave them are carrots, cucumber, pucuk ubi(dunno what's this called in english), some picked grass, dandelions, leafy soft leaves(does that make sense?) and my mother's flowers( a favorite for them) and just bought their pellets and some alfalfa hay. I know we're supposed to give 2month old rabbits a diet of alfalfa hay and pellets but the rabbits don't seem to take on hay.And I read that pellets shouldnt be their main diet anyways. They seem to love the leaves I picked. so I let them eat it as snacks along with the carrots.Worried about whether I'd see them dead in 10 days too. But there doesn't seem to be a symptom of diarrhea from what we've been feeding them. And they only nibble on the hay. It usually lay forgotten. Another problem I have is that they dont seem to use the water bottle. I tried showing them how it works. coercing them to come near it with food and all but they dont seem interested in it.Really worried they'd get dehydration but if I put a bowl of water it wont be hygienic for them. rclxub.gif O ya, how much is rabbit harness?
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They so look kinda too small to be 2 months old to me. Things to take note of:
- cut down on the fresh and green stuff. except for a tiny bit now and then as treats. you're not supposed to feed fresh food to them at that age
- pellets as their main diet should be fine, as long as they're given unlimited hay to bite on as well.

If you're worried about the water, then just go ahead and use a water bowl. Just need to check on the water and change it regularly.

Don't think there's any such thing as a rabbit harness. try looking for the smallest dog harness that you can find. But its gonna be a few more months before your rabbits grow enough for you to put a harness on them though.

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post Feb 2 2010, 10:55 PM

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Any GRASS hay is alright i.e. Orchard/Timothy as they are high in fiber. The reason for different types of grass hay is because of the differences in texture. So when your rabbit "grind" them, they will make sure of all their teeth are used to chew and thus keeping their teeth well maintained.

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post Feb 2 2010, 11:38 PM

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Rabbit harness in tropicana city mall about RM15..PLC just open there
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QUOTE(urahara_shoten @ Feb 2 2010, 04:55 PM)
New rabbit owner  rclxms.gif had them for 4 days now.They're supposed to be 2months old and are weaned already. What do you guys think?Do they look 2 months?
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I'm worried since I read somewhere in the rabbit corner that one guy lost his rabbit after getting it for only 10 days possibly due to giving them fresh vegetables. I've been feeding them fresh greens since I got them and they seem fine. List of things I gave them are carrots, cucumber, pucuk ubi(dunno what's this called in english), some picked grass, dandelions, leafy soft leaves(does that make sense?) and my mother's flowers( a favorite for them) and just bought their pellets and some alfalfa hay. I know we're supposed to give 2month old rabbits a diet of alfalfa hay and pellets but the rabbits don't seem to take on hay.And I read that pellets shouldnt be their main diet anyways. They seem to love the leaves I picked. so I let them eat it as snacks along with the carrots.Worried about whether I'd see them dead in 10 days too. But there doesn't seem to be a symptom of diarrhea from what we've been feeding them. And they only nibble on the hay. It usually lay forgotten. Another problem I have is that they dont seem to use the water bottle. I tried showing them how it works. coercing them to come near it with food and all but they dont seem interested in it.Really worried they'd get dehydration but if I put a bowl of water it wont be hygienic for them. rclxub.gif O ya, how much is rabbit harness?
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I'm not much an expert, but i will try to answer your question:
1) while i cannot judge your rabbit's age just by looking at their photo, i strongly suggest you should go back to the pet shop or their previous owner to enquire, as this is a very important aspect for their diet regime, health issues and training;
2) diet: young rabbit until the age of 3 mths should be only be fed with with alfafa hay and a handful of pellets; why alfafa hay? bcos young rabbit need those extra protein, vitamin and calorie to grow; after abt 3mths, you can give some vege. generally dark leaf vege is ok; as it is lower in moisture content and more vitamins. avoid vege with is high in moisture (celery, lettuce, etc..) and 'gassy' vege (cabbage, brocolli, cauliflower, asparagus, etc); and yes, you can feed them flowers too, but be careful of the pesticide most flower does. then, at the age of 7 mths only you can introduce fruit (any non watery fruits like apple, guava, etc.. if feeding cucumber, pls ensure the seed part which is watery be removed) and root (must be careful to avoid 'starchy' and fatty food like all type of potatoes, peanuts, corn, etc) to them. but they do love carrot and red radishes. avoid 'white' radish as the taste is stinging them.
3) diet is one of the 2 important aspect of raising a rabbit as they are known to have delicate digestive system and this is one of the common reason why they died. remember they cant bark or whine, so it's not easy for you to see whether they got problem or not.
4) to answer some of your question:
a) the reason your rabbit dun take much alfafa hay or any hay at this moment is bcos they have ample of 'fresh' food, which is tastier; imagine you are your rabbit, you want to eat toasted bread or char kuey teow for breakfast? haha.. and one thing most ppl doesn't know, rabbit just like gold fish, they are not as intelligent as cats and dogs (so to speak) to know when they are full or have an instinct to avoid those food which is harmful to them. if you are continuing feeding him/her like what you are doing, there are only 2 consequences; either they will die or they will survive, but chance for the latter are very slim.
b) you are right (partial)! pellet shall be their main staple with with vege, fruits, carrot, etc ('fresh food') shall be the 'treats'. generally their diet should consist of 80% hay, 15% pellets and 5% treats. they need to chew on the hay to to wear off their teeth and if you give them too much 'treats'; training them will be harder than ever (remember you need this to potty training, hurdles traning and if you are patiently enough to train, they can come when called their name! just like a dog!).
c) it's not like they do not know how to use the bottle, but they don't need it, cos they are getting most of the water from the arrays of 'fresh food' you fed them; while i know some owner did give their rabbit water bowl, but it's not highly reccommended as the water will make their fur entangle accidently.. so once you switch their diet, they will drink like a camel..
d) rabbit harness are plenty available at pet shop safari (if not mistaken) in sunway and the curve (try google them around) at rm35 each.

Sorry, i did not intent to write this long originally; i could have bla bla bla more on their health issue and training, but i bet you are sleepy already.. haha.. i hope you have a healthy and bubbly rabbit like my 'bit bit' (he is about 8yo now and still healty as ever!)



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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 2 2010, 11:38 PM)
Rabbit harness in tropicana city mall about RM15..PLC just open there
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Woah.. that is cheap. Thought it'd be rm20+



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1) while i cannot judge your rabbit's age just by looking at their photo, i strongly suggest you should go back to the pet shop or their previous owner to enquire, as this is a very important aspect for their diet regime, health issues and training;

Wayooo... Cannot ler. its in banting inside ladang kelapa sawit. really hard to reach. But uhm... I suppose if its not 2 months old then it should be 1month plus since its a rabbit farm and they've separated the weaned ones with those who haven't ( I wanted one who was still feeding but they said cannot, afraid it'll die)
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2) diet: young rabbit until the age of 3 mths should be only be fed with with alfafa hay and a handful of pellets; why alfafa hay? bcos young rabbit need those extra protein, vitamin and calorie to grow; after abt 3mths, you can give some vege. generally dark leaf vege is ok; as it is lower in moisture content and more vitamins. avoid vege with is high in moisture (celery, lettuce, etc..) and 'gassy' vege (cabbage, brocolli, cauliflower, asparagus, etc); and yes, you can feed them flowers too, but be careful of the pesticide most flower does. then, at the age of 7 mths only you can introduce fruit (any non watery fruits like apple, guava, etc.. if feeding cucumber, pls ensure the seed part which is watery be removed) and root (must be careful to avoid 'starchy' and fatty food like all type of potatoes, peanuts, corn, etc) to them. but they do love carrot and red radishes. avoid 'white' radish as the taste is stinging them.

Wokeh! check. And noo... lah, my mum dont put pesticides, just goat manure occasionally XD

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4) to answer some of your question:
a) the reason your rabbit dun take much alfafa hay or any hay at this moment is bcos they have ample of 'fresh' food, which is tastier; imagine you are your rabbit, you want to eat toasted bread or char kuey teow for breakfast? haha.. and one thing most ppl doesn't know, rabbit just like gold fish, they are not as intelligent as cats and dogs (so to speak) to know when they are full or have an instinct to avoid those food which is harmful to them. if you are continuing feeding him/her like what you are doing, there are only 2 consequences; either they will die or they will survive, but chance for the latter are very slim.

lol kuey teow. Nice analogy rclxms.gif
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b) you are right (partial)! pellet shall be their main staple with with vege, fruits, carrot, etc ('fresh food') shall be the 'treats'. generally their diet should consist of 80% hay, 15% pellets and 5% treats. they need to chew on the hay to to wear off their teeth and if you give them too much 'treats'; training them will be harder than ever (remember you need this to potty training, hurdles traning and if you are patiently enough to train, they can come when called their name! just like a dog!).

Hurdle training? Wass that?We're trying to potty train them. but since theres 3 of em its moving kinda slow shakehead.gif how do you train them to come when you call their name? shocking.gif
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c) it's not like they do not know how to use the bottle, but they don't need it, cos they are getting most of the water from the arrays of 'fresh food' you fed them; while i know some owner did give their rabbit water bowl, but it's not highly reccommended as the water will make their fur entangle accidently.. so once you switch their diet, they will drink like a camel..

Okay, switching their diets to pellets and alfalfa with leaf treats everytime one of them use the potty. Dried lawn grass for their main diet oso can?

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Sorry, i did not intent to write this long originally; i could have bla bla bla more on their health issue and training, but i bet you are sleepy already.. haha.. i hope you have a healthy and bubbly rabbit like my 'bit bit' (he is about 8yo now and still healty as ever!)
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Very good one chrysseng, but I have to highlight something different on Item 2. Rabbits below 6 months should be FREE FED. This means they must have pellets throughout the day and not just a handful. I personally do not like to free feed Alfalfa because too much of it may also cause diarrhea because it is too rich in protein. I would prefer to start them off with grass hay with a little mixture of Alfalfa throughout the day as most pellets are already made of Alfalfa.

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Feb 3 2010, 10:01 AM)
Very good one chrysseng, but I have to highlight something different on Item 2. Rabbits below 6 months should be FREE FED. This means they must have pellets throughout the day and not just a handful. I personally do not like to free feed Alfalfa because too much of it may also cause diarrhea because it is too rich in protein. I would prefer to start them off with grass hay with a little mixture of Alfalfa throughout the day as most pellets are already made of Alfalfa.

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Hi i would like to ask. I cannot seem to find any reviews on Britter Bunny Pellets and Hagen Pellets. How are these 2 pellets? Or any recommendations? Can we mix 2 kinds of pellets for them to eat?
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1) Raising a rabbit is not known for easy maintain or cheap in any sense (they could be more expensive than raising a dog, as the medical bills could be very high, depends your luck) so make some efforts. haha..

2) Potty training is not very hard, wonder if you are using correct method. try google around, there are plenty information available in internet. we raised our 'bit bit' without anybody teaching, but we made the effort and read a lot; but then again, your rabbits are 2 mth old, they are still very young to be trained. you can start them young, but result maybe frustrating;

3) Hurdle training is very simple, as the name of the sport suggest, first you must prepare some lower barrier and put treats at the end of each barrier, they will jump at the treats! after a while of training, you may increase the height of the barrier.. make sure the treats are not too big, just a bite! to keep them wanting for more! jumping is rabbit natural way to 'play'; with enough training, they can even jump over a table! Oh, it won't works now as they are already used to gourmet food, they won't respond to you now, beside they are too young to even start being fed on treats!

4) my rabbit will come when we calls him; heck, now he even 'greets' us when we come back, just like a dog! it's not very hard to train thou.. again, if you reads enough, you will know rabbits are very sensitive to sound in nature (therefore the long ears!) and they usually do not live well in noisy place (but you can 'train' them to adapt the noise later in their adulthood), especially when they are as young as yours; you must try to control the 'noisy' at your home, like moving chairs, ppl talking out loud (like my hakka mother!) and loud music, there are not a fan of linkin park or blackeyepeas.. haha.. knowing this info would help you in 'designing' a set of training for them. what we did is: we tried hard to control the level of noise at the beginning, thus as a young rabbit, bit bit is adapted to quiet surrounding and bcos he lives in mostly quiet environment, he will be more sensitive when called or gently clapping your hands, when feeding/poo poo, play time and 'treats' time. the process is painstakingly long, but it will works if you really can 'tahan' not to give treats when they did not give efforts. oh ya, give diff treats for diff task they perform will also helps.. contrary to believe that rabbits like carrot the most, their foremost likes are herbs! our bit bit crazy about 'flat leaves cilantro'. other herbs like parsley, thyme, rosemary, chives, basil, dill and so on.. we hardly feed him with flowers, so can't say what's the respond. another thing he does: he will 'greets' us when the 'first' person go out to work and come back, we didn't train him, but he managed somehow that the 'first' person will always give him some treats. that's why he learned to 'beg' (he will scratch at his cage door and run in cirles to attracts you) for it.. haha..

5) But at this moment, your main concern is not the training. Read more about their health issues, especially caring for bucks and holes are diff in nature.. this will avoid medical bills later. oh ya, you must now look for a doctor whom is experience in treating rabbit (info somewhere in forum), go bring your rabbit for check up and see what the doctor recommends in term of vaccination. keep the doctor's contact, preferably nearest to your place, as when rabbit is sick, they come hard and fast and most of the case are fatal.

Again, long post.. haiz.. too lengthy i supposed. haha.. cheerz..
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Always look at the guaranteed analysis to gauge whether the pellet fulfills the basic needs of your bunnies. I will avoid fancy colors at all cost.

I personally believe that Hagen is quite a good brand because I was using it when I wasn't able to obtain good feed like Pro Optimum & etc. If you need the basics, I believe Hagen can provide. And I love the fact that it is one of the most common brand available in market and the supply is constant. Most important is to get FRESH feed and FRESH hay.

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Hi i would like to ask. I cannot seem to find any reviews on Britter Bunny Pellets and Hagen Pellets. How are these 2 pellets? Or any recommendations? Can we mix 2 kinds of pellets for them to eat?
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Feb 3 2010, 05:59 PM)
Always look at the guaranteed analysis to gauge whether the pellet fulfills the basic needs of your bunnies. I will avoid fancy colors at all cost.

I personally believe that Hagen is quite a good brand because I was using it when I wasn't able to obtain good feed like Pro Optimum & etc. If you need the basics, I believe Hagen can provide. And I love the fact that it is one of the most common brand available in market and the supply is constant. Most important is to get FRESH feed and FRESH hay.
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Im still surveying for food. not sure how much Hagen costs. How much is pro optimum like the one u said? value for money i hope. coz u know bunnies they tend to eat a lot rite?
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well...pellet is not the staple food. i oni feed about 1/4 to 1/3 cup a day..pellet is just to fill it's stomach...consider getting plenty of hay...if your bunny is a hay lover u can buy in bigger packaging...timithy hay is highly reccomende...i buy from chubby pets garden..ask my rabbit everytime i refill her hay container she will curi some from the large packaging while i'm refilling it..hahaha...

Hagen is about half price of the pro optimum..but my bunny take pro optimum coz the ingredient inside is very good for the bunny..like for mine is long coat so it prevents hair ball indigestion..after starting pro optimum and the hay she is got no such problem already


Added on February 3, 2010, 6:06 pmToday my Hyorin gave me heart attack...i can't find her in her usual resting spots..i look for her every where can't find...call out for her also don't care...finnaly i saw my furry white rabbit beside the white styrofoam box behind a pail looking at me running up and down the house...camouflage with the box wall and floor...-.-"
getting old my eyesight getting bad..she's probably laughing at me

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