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Awakened_Angel
post Aug 16 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 16 2010, 11:12 AM)
1. That why you need to consider it. Sometimes the best business people are those who has marketing skills and strong social skills. Those design talent skills, they just hired some else to do it. Maybe you can consider a partner?

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I think the most important skill is the skill to convince people.. or psycology warfare....

be it convince your customer, your employee to fight for you, to work for you till they retire or your supplier to give you cheap pricing

and this skills cant be learn from book....

and i notice that those who excell in books are not that good in this skills....

I have a friend, who failed in his studies are a grest public speakers... he speak with broken english and can convince crowd of 1000 people hmm.gif
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to me, convincing, public speaking, employee loyalty, requires 1 thing.

to win over people, you need to have the passion. hard to explain it in words. but if you have the PASSION, you can really convince people really really well!

getting cheap pricing, to get good business deals, this 1 requires the art of negotiation. comes from experience.
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 16 2010, 01:45 PM)
I think the most important skill is the skill to convince people.. or psycology warfare....

be it convince your customer, your employee to fight for you, to work for you till they retire or your supplier to give you cheap pricing

and this skills cant be learn from book....

and i notice that those who excell in books are not that good in this skills....

I have a friend, who failed in his studies are a grest public speakers... he speak with broken english and can convince crowd of 1000 people  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(boringz @ Aug 16 2010, 02:07 PM)
to me, convincing, public speaking, employee loyalty, requires 1 thing.

to win over people, you need to have the passion. hard to explain it in words. but if you have the PASSION, you can really convince people really really well!

getting cheap pricing, to get good business deals, this 1 requires the art of negotiation. comes from experience.
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That's the reason why One must join Toastmaster club in order to gain public speaking skills. Learn how to talk to people. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 16 2010, 03:30 PM)
That's the reason why One must join Toastmaster club in order to gain public speaking skills. Learn how to talk to people.  biggrin.gif
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not quite.... one may be good in public speaking but cant really convince people....

like you cant ask a excellent public speaker to talk like politicians that is able to convince and change how we think....

talks like martin luther, hitler, mahathir gave......
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 16 2010, 02:45 PM)
not quite.... one may be good in public speaking but cant really convince people....

like you cant ask a excellent public speaker to talk like politicians that is able to convince and change how we think....

talks like martin luther, hitler, mahathir gave......
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Excellent public speaker has the power to convince. In order to give talk that can convince people, one need more than just public speaking skills. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 16 2010, 03:50 PM)
Excellent public speaker has the power to convince. In order to give talk that can convince people, one need more than just public speaking skills.  biggrin.gif
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I believe the word is charisma
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haha. public speaking... depends again on passion!

a lecturer is doing public speaking! but why does most people fall asleep in class?

compare it to some of the speakers in TED who knows their stuff. its really different.


Added on August 16, 2010, 2:53 pmfriendly and funny works too.

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 16 2010, 02:51 PM)
I believe the word is charisma
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Correct correct. Good usage of vocabulary. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 16 2010, 03:56 PM)
Correct correct. Good usage of vocabulary.  rclxms.gif
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another word.... Inspiring....
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hitler is inspiring and charismatic! hmm.. damn. he's good.
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lecturers are boring because they never even run a business or open a shop in reality . they are just book worm that's y student fall asleep as they lack real experience and story to tell. So now , do u still want to believe college here is really the stepping stone??


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QUOTE(boringz @ Aug 16 2010, 03:06 PM)
hitler is inspiring and charismatic! hmm.. damn. he's good.
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missionaries and gods messengers of the past too.notworthy.gif

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post Aug 17 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Aug 16 2010, 10:52 PM)
lecturers are boring because they never even run a business or open a shop in reality . they are just book worm that's y student fall asleep as they lack real experience and story to tell. So now , do u still want to believe college here is really the stepping stone??

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they dont accept out of the box mentality.. they are used to the "I say, you listen and follow.. no question asked" meantality

I still recall I were slapped by my math teacher cos i ask why pai is 3.142 and not 2 or 3 or 10 ?? doh.gif

its a different thing when I study in UK... they encourage such questions

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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 17 2010, 09:22 AM)
they dont accept out of the box mentality.. they are used to the "I say, you listen and follow.. no question asked" meantality

I still recall I were slapped by my math teacher cos i ask why pai is 3.142 and not 2 or 3 or 10 ??  doh.gif

its a different thing when I study in UK... they encourage such questions
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y dont u ask him/her how come u slapped me, is there i asking wrong question here or u cant answer my genius question?.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Aug 17 2010, 09:22 AM)
they dont accept out of the box mentality.. they are used to the "I say, you listen and follow.. no question asked" meantality

I still recall I were slapped by my math teacher cos i ask why pai is 3.142 and not 2 or 3 or 10 ??  doh.gif

its a different thing when I study in UK... they encourage such questions
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That's the difference between Western and Asian Education. smile.gif


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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 17 2010, 10:36 AM)
y dont u ask him/her how come u slapped me, is there i asking wrong question here or u cant answer my genius question?..  flex.gif
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capitalism mahh


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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 17 2010, 10:45 AM)
That's the difference between Western and Asian Education.  smile.gif
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i am middle class students... not first class ma... the teacher think I am fooling around... but in fact I am not.... when I was form 4 I was already reading college physics... as form 4 & 5 physics cant satisfy my curiosity laugh.gif

many 1st class students beh song when I scored A1 in my SPM while they get A2 or B3 tongue.gif

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Hi

we are a financing company arranging business loan.

Criteria for this loan are the business must run on 2 yrs & above.

currently we are having promotion for those success application with a free "Home security system" worth RM1000++

pls email enquiry to us at info at ayubarra.com

cheers
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QUOTE(alexcky @ Aug 25 2010, 07:09 AM)
Hi

we are a financing company arranging business loan.

Criteria for this loan are the business must run on 2 yrs & above.

currently we are having promotion for those success application with a free "Home security system" worth RM1000++

pls email enquiry to us at info at ayubarra.com

cheers
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What is the maximum loan that your company can afford?
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Aug 26 2010, 09:22 AM)
What is the maximum loan that your company can afford?
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depend on the business turnover..the maximum loan that approve so far is RM3mil
to check for amount loan that can borrow u may send ur enquiries to info@ayubarra.com
from there we will let u know all the procedures

currently we have few application from lowyat members too..

thks
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post Aug 27 2010, 11:56 AM

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For me bussiness is bigger than can be think.If the salary RM 300 but the company is yours and company do some project itu ini later can smile.and sometimes can smile sorang-sorang.Why i `crazy` with bussiness?

because the power of bussiness.its unlimited.its big.if the bussiness in the right hand it will become the most greatest bussiness in history.

LimGohTong English also dont know.but look what he can do.

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post Aug 30 2010, 05:37 AM

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hi, im still a student but i wanted to start a business so badly and this is my 1st business so i hope can get come advice from u all:)

my plan was starting a bulble tea + waffer shop near my college..

i had check the rental is aproximate 1.2k.
the machine aproximate 5k for everting i needed
one helper around 1k a month .

im seeking whether my calculation is correct ? and should i anything i should add in as consideration? THx:)

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