QUOTE(iceanise @ Jan 12 2010, 09:38 AM)
exactly...because the letter of undertaking from bank to developer state that whatever happens, they will disburse the money to developer if there's architect cert to prove the stage of construction. manipulation can happens when architect certified eventhough the building is not build up to that level. but i guess not many architect will do this purposely because they also want to jaga their rice bowl.
fieck84,
yup, we are just sharing the opinion, we know that everyone have their own thinking. As mentioned in last post, the disbursement thingy can happens as normal (i.e disburse once the level is build and send the architect cert to bank to claim the money (percentage completed). This processes will never change but developer can have agreement with banks to minimize the losses (because developer is paying for the coming 18 months) - don't ask me how they do it....but if they want to, they can. Yes, what you said previously, Sime Darby is big corporation so that they can do this but if you notice, 1120 Park Avenue is free from encumbrances - no bridging financier....it's not charged dude....what makes you thinks the have insufficient funds to construct?
I mean, what 106127 and i mentioned here are just opinions....and we heard you too... that first disbursement is after the piling work....we are just sharing that other possibility does happens.....not to said that we "confirm" it will happen.
We are going to be neighbour, aren't we?

Dear iceanise,
Glad to see people writing and giving comments with a great respect to each other without discriminating who they are, no matter age, race or religious! And its good to know actually you heard me.
This is my post last time, just for our reference:
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And in comparison to SimeDarby Property, SimeDarby Property is a giant property developer, they have a big capital to use their own cash money to finance their construction works before actually claim back from the financial institutions involved. Many developers are still relay on the financial institutions to release money according to site works progress before they can proceed to the next stage."If we read carefully, I never say that 1120 Park Avenue Sdn Bhd does not have enough funds to construct the said property, please do not miss understand me, but what I am saying here is many developers are still relay on the financial institutions to release money according to site work progress to move to the next stage of construction. It is a general overview of property construction industry over here in Malaysia.
It just that I feel when we are talking about this matter, it is best (but not necessary) to compare "Apple with Apple", and I do not neglect the fact that such incidence (that both of you guys are speculating) may happen. If you see what I wrote last time: "
My point is, so long the construction works progressing, the 3+5 years lock in period will may not happen". I made it clear by term it as "MAY not happen", and this statement does not mean it will not happen at all, but "it may or may not happen". It just that some people over react on my statement and get offended.
SimeDarby Property case is an isolated case where this giant property developer have more than sufficient fund to finance their construction works at site. SimeDarby has lots of successful projects in hand currently completed and under construction stage, which known to be successful. Whereas, Peter's Group of Companies only have one project in hand currently under construction, which is "Desa Papilon" at Taman Desa and few completed projects (which completed years back). If you can observe, this project (Desa Papilon) also finance according to site progress as they sometime pause the construction works, while waiting for the payment. We are talking about turn around money in business here, and not a small amount of money but millions.
I believe that the possibilities are there, but it best to compare Apple with Apple. By the way, I appreciate both of you guys opinion.
Yeah, we are neighbour! Love to see your closing remarks...
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