QUOTE(destfull @ Jan 18 2010, 12:32 AM)
I hope you guys can read this and do research before state something

and I always hate not so clever fanboys who talks blindly...
btw, this quote from albnok from Sony Alpha Thread:
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Cheapest full-frame dSLR:
Canon 5D MkII = RM8850
Nikon D700 = RM7850
Sony A850 = RM6050
Flashes
Top end flash:
Canon 580 EX II = RM1750
Nikon SB-900 = RM1640
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM1130
Low end flash:
Canon 430EX II = RM1130
Nikon SB-600 = RM800
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM780
APS-C lenses
APS-C superzoom:
Nikkor 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 VR II = RM2700
Canon 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 IS = RM2600
Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 OS HSM = RM2450
Sigma 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 OS HSM = RM1760
Tamron 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 = RM1640
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM1600
Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM1550
Tamron 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 = RM1050
APS-C midrange standard zoom:
Canon 17-85mm F4-5.6 IS USM = RM2430
Sony Carl Zeiss 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT = RM2300
Nikkor 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 AF-S = RM2150
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM1650
Sigma 18-125mm F3.8-5.6 OS HSM = RM1490
Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 Macro HSM = RM1490
Nikkor 18-105mm F3.5-5.6 VR = RM1150
APS-C F2.8 standard zoom: (Sony does not have an APS-C F2.8 zoom.)
Nikkor 17-55mm F2.8 AF-S = 4950
Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS USM = RM3870
Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 Macro HSM = RM1850
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 = RM1550
Cheap APS-C telephoto zoom:
Nikkor 55-200mm F4-5.6 AF-S VR = RM940
Canon 55-250mm F4-5.6 IS = RM920
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM680 (in package, can go down to RM300)
APS-C ultra-wide angle zoom:
Nikkor 12-24mm F4 AF-S = RM3550
Canon 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 USM = RM2730
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC HSM = RM2270
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM2000
Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5 = RM1960
APS-C normal prime: (you can count the Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM in this also.)
Sigma 30mm F1.4 = RM1850
Nikkor 35mm F1.8 AF-S = RM800
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM = RM790
Cheaper low light portrait prime: (Only Sony 50mm F1.8 is APS-C)
Nikkor 50mm F1.8 AF-D = RM400
Canon 50mm F1.8 II = RM320
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM300-500 (depends where and what package)
Full-frame lenses
Standard zoom:
Canon 24-105mm F4L IS USM = RM4380
Nikkor 24-120mm F3.5-5.6 VR = RM2050
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM1850
Budget F2.8 standard zoom:
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM2550
Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 Macro = RM2030
Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 = RM1670
Premium F2.8 standard zoom:
Nikkor 24-70mm F2.8 AF-S = RM5850
Canon 24-70mm F2.8L USM = RM5400
Sony Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM = RM5350
Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 HSM = RM3710
Midrange telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-300mm F4-5.6 IS USM = RM3000
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM2550
Nikkor 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 AF-S VR = RM1900
Cheaper F4 telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-200mm F4L USM = RM2850 (no IS)
Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan = RM1000 (only available second-hand)
Premium F2.8 telephoto zoom:
Canon 70-200mm F2.8 IS USM = RM7350 (this is the old one, not the much better version II)
Nikkor 70-200mm F2.8 AF-S VR = RM6350 (this is the old one, not the much better VR II)
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM5550
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 II Macro HSM = RM3890
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 = RM2970
Premium telephoto zoom:
Canon 100-400mm F4.5-5.6L IS USM = RM6210
Nikkor 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AF-D = RM5650
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM5400
Premium F2.8 ultra-wide-angle zoom:
Nikkor 17-35mm F2.8 AF-S = RM6440
Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 AF-S = RM6000
Canon 16-35mm F2.8L II USM = RM5850
Sony Carl Zeiss 16-35mm F2.8 SSM = RM5400
Macro lenses
Telephoto macro prime:
Canon 100mm F2.8L Macro IS USM = RM3395
Nikkor 105mm F2.8 IS = RM3100
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM2300
Sigma 105mm F2.8 Macro = RM1910
Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro = RM1470
Normal full-frame macro prime:
Nikkor 60mm F2.8 Macro AF-S = RM2000
Canon 60mm F2.8 Macro USM = RM1850
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM1450
Sigma 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM1250
APS-C normal macro prime: (the only other brand that has something like this is Pentax/Tokina)
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro SAM = RM790
Prime lenses
Full-frame diagonal fisheye:
Nikkor 16mm F2.8 = RM2750
Sigma 15mm F2.8 = RM2690
Canon 15mm F2.8 = RM2680
Sony 16mm F2.8 = RM2550
Full-frame ultra-wide-angle prime:
Sigma 20mm F1.8 Macro = RM2150
Nikkor 20mm F2.8 AF-D = RM1950
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM1950
Canon 20mm F2.8 USM = RM1790
Full-frame wide-angle prime:
Sigma 28mm F1.8 Macro = RM1490
Nikkor 28mm F2.8 AF-D = RM900
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM880
Canon 28mm F2.8 = RM800
Premium F1.4 full-frame wide-angle prime:
Canon 35mm F1.4L USM = RM5070
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM4550
Low light normal prime:
Sigma 50mm F1.4 HSM = RM2140
Nikkor AF-S 50mm F1.4 = RM1840
Canon 50mm F1.4 USM = RM1430
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM1100
Nikkor AF-D 50mm F1.4 = RM1050
Premium portrait prime:
Canon 85mm F1.2L II USM = RM8750
Sony Carl Zeiss 85mm F1.4 = RM4850
Nikkor 85mm F1.4 AF-D = RM3850
Premium telephoto portrait prime:
Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8 = RM4850
Nikkor 135mm F2.0 AF-D Defocus Control = RM4430
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM3650
Canon 135mm F2.0L USM = RM3385
Premium telephoto prime:
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20050
Canon 300mm F2.8L IS USM = RM18750
Nikkor 300mm F2.8 AF-S G VR = RM16960
Sigma 300mm F2.8 EX DG HSM = RM9940
Prices quoted from
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/885593 and
http://www.shashinki.com/.
Cheap doesn't mean best. Not intending to start a brand war, but um, the Canon 300mm F2.8L is cheaper? 135 F2L? And you're comparing a CZ 1.4 with Canon's 1.2? Canon's 28mm F2.8 cheaper too? Comparing the beercan with an L lens? I'm not sure what to say.
QUOTE(sevensigns @ Jan 18 2010, 10:42 AM)
hello.I want to ask.If my budjet is only rm2k.What will should i get the dslr camera?.D60 or D80?.which one with good with my budjet..
Definitely the D80. The D60 is a step down from it.
QUOTE(sevensigns @ Jan 18 2010, 06:22 PM)
how about d80 and d90.Does any differences about this 2.
d3000 vs d60
D90 is the successor to D80. D3000 is the successor to D60. And an added tip, the D3000 has improved very much since the D60.
Added on January 18, 2010, 7:16 pmQUOTE(destfull @ Jan 18 2010, 04:11 PM)
Up to you la dude, fenbui will always be fenbui.. I hope your math got credit or passed during SPM, if not I know the reason

And just so you know, we discuss, not flame. I guess you're just trying to start a flame war, no? Reported.
This post has been edited by TheWandererX: Jan 18 2010, 07:16 PM