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 Denai Alam, Kindly advice sifoos & friends..

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feezar25
post Jun 13 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Vedder @ Jun 13 2012, 08:43 AM)
Great to hear from fellow MT neighbors. I bought the first phase, at RM1.03mil . The house is too attractive to resist biggrin.gif hence the decision made was a quick one....only later the whole thought process came into place. Classic example of buying thru emotion...

But no regrets I guess, with the appreciation in price and the current trending of units being sold out for the later launches, I think this area can only grow and stabilize. Look forward to better commercial development and the DASH highway as well....

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Hahaha..same goes here.The thought process came later too. Although I do have some concern on the design (my only concern, the rest fit the criteria biggrin.gif ) but after some poisoning by HM, I just jump in. Her exact word "Y do u care so much? I never cook...." seal the deal that day.. icon_rolleyes.gif

Since we got single entrance to MT, we should write up to SD asking for fencing. Good if we can get few more MT purchaser

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post Jun 13 2012, 09:43 AM

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Well, I bought my unit off instinct too....but never regretted it one bit.... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Vedder @ Jun 12 2012, 10:25 PM)
Hi, first timer here.

Anybody knows how's the sale for maple terrace? Many more units available? Bought a unit early this year. Paid full mot,lawyers fee etc only o find out they waive everything now under this 'lifestyle' campaign...anybody in the same position here?

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This campaign only applicable once in three years..last campaign 2009..and now 2012 so have to wait for another 3 years to grab this special offer.
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 13 2012, 08:52 AM)
Since we got single entrance to MT, we should write up to SD asking for fencing. Good if we can get few more MT purchaser
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We are trying hard to finally hire the security on our own as soon as possible now. You may have better luck with SD but I made a conclusion already. SD only know how to build houses and make lots money out of it, and if there is nothing stated in B&W that they would provide security, then I think you should not be hoping much, or at least be prepared to work really hard.

And some guards even said they are hired to guard SD properties (unsold units) and not the residents' smile.gif . And to me, if SD can't even provide decent security guards for us, we can forget about asking them to do fencing around our neighbourhood, which also has single entry/exit point.

I have more to say, but that's all for now.

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post Jun 13 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 09:43 AM)
Well, I bought my unit off instinct too....but never regretted it one bit.... biggrin.gif
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Yours are Fern Lane.. that one i regret every single day.. for not buying a few.. haha..
We can only say that 2 yrs after the purchase though.
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post Jun 13 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(rfm @ Jun 13 2012, 10:38 AM)
I've been refraining myself from saying more re security in DA, but think I should share some infos with you. I can't afford a G&G house and I believe in strong RA to make a neighbourhood a nice place to live. A few of us made a few meetings with an owner from the first phase and with SD even before we got the keys of our houses. SD said they would provide a mobile guardhouse at our entrance a few months back, but it never happened. They also provided a security guard (till Oct this year) but he acted like biskut (remember, chipsmore biggrin.gif ). Finally something that we dread happened, an attempted break-in through the roof of a neighbour. The owner reported that to SD. They said they would tighten security by providing two guards 24/7. Movement of visitors (especially contractors) would be registered. Then I saw some improvement. Instead of one chair, I saw two at the entrance. We felt relieved a bit. After a few days, it's back to normal. Most of the time, we only saw two chairs under the umbrella and no people. I complained to one guard who is working at another phase, he came to my house with is boss and 2 other guards, and said they would make sure things would be improved. But nothing happened except for a second attempted break-in, through the roof happened again. This time the owner said no point of reporting to SD anymore.

We are trying hard to finally hire the security on our own as soon as possible now. You may have better luck with SD but I made a conclusion already. SD only know how to build houses and make lots money out of it, and if there is nothing stated in B&W that they would provide security, then I think you should not be hoping much, or at least be prepared to work really hard.

And some guards even said they are hired to guard SD properties (unsold units) and not the residents' smile.gif . And to me, if SD can't even provide decent security guards for us, we can forget about asking them to do fencing around our neighbourhood, which also has single entry/exit point.

I have more to say, but that's all for now.
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Thanks for the insight..Maybe 'begging' from them wont work.Maybe we should try other method/approach..Im thinking of getting nasty with the Press if they continue to act this way biggrin.gif . Hurt them where it hurt the most..the 'pocket'..If we have strong RA we can do this..Im sure they dont want bad image of their own township. ..

Regarding the fencing, if Im not mistaken, if we can get 85% consensus of it, developer cant deny us. We should get current and future owner to sit down and plan the next action. The more the stronger.. rclxms.gif

p/s: I saw in news that KJ RA can even blocked/delayed an approved developer project for PKNS football field beside LDP. Now become big issue (put aside the political gimmick for a while) even MB are force to give statement on that now. But have to admit KJ people are old/matured resident who have live long enough to have a very strong RA. Nevertheless thats my point. Bro RFM, since you are the current residents, maybe you can propose in the next DARA meeting to include future owner like us. Verification can be thru SnP,booking slip..etc. Im very interested to join. We should bombard SD office with all request for better facilities/security. thumbup.gif

Thanks

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post Jun 13 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Bert Rizal @ Jun 13 2012, 11:30 AM)
Yours are Fern Lane.. that one i regret every single day..  for not buying a few.. haha..
We can only say that 2 yrs after the purchase though.
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...and you regret is because? hmm.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 12:11 PM)
...and you regret is because?  hmm.gif
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Regret for not buying...hehe

Now like me..no more bullet to shoot..so wait if boss can give 50% salary increment for next purchase..
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post Jun 13 2012, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 12:11 PM)
...and you regret is because?  hmm.gif
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for not buying a few..
i mean.. should hv bought more than 1.. it was only 500k back then..
actually had that opportunity on cancelled units..

if only hv 1, sayang mau jual.. too nice to sell..
just thought that if hv 2 now, can flip 1 and get to live in a nicely furnished/renovated FL house.. hehe

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QUOTE(Bert Rizal @ Jun 13 2012, 12:58 PM)
for not buying a few..
i mean.. should hv bought more than 1.. it was only 500k back then..
actually had that opportunity on cancelled units..

if only hv 1, sayang mau jual.. too nice to sell..
just thought that if hv 2 now, can flip 1 and get to live in a nicely furnished/renovated FL house.. hehe
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Fern Lane is cracker indeed.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:54 AM)
Thanks for the insight..Maybe 'begging' from them wont work.Maybe we should try other method/approach..Im thinking of getting nasty with the Press if they continue to act this way  biggrin.gif . Hurt them where it hurt the most..the 'pocket'..If we have strong RA we can do this..Im sure they dont want bad image of their own township. ..

Regarding the fencing, if Im not mistaken, if we can get 85% consensus of it, developer cant deny us. We should get current and future owner to sit down and plan the next action. The more the stronger.. rclxms.gif

p/s: I saw in news that KJ RA  can even blocked/delayed an approved developer project for PKNS football field beside LDP. Now become big issue (put aside the political gimmick for a while) even MB are force to give statement on that now. But have to admit KJ people are old/matured resident who have live long enough to have a very strong RA. Nevertheless thats my point. Bro RFM, since you are the current residents, maybe you can propose in the next DARA meeting to include future owner like us. Verification can be thru SnP,booking slip..etc. Im very interested to join. We should bombard SD office with all request for better facilities/security. thumbup.gif

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Yes, definitely we can get fencing done with RA, through MBSA (or some other bodies, I'm not very sure, we are currently looking into this) but that would be from the residents effort and not much from the developer. That's what I believe SD want, built houses, make a lot of money and leave the rest to the residents. This process takes time, in the meantime, residents have sleepless nights, worrying that some people might try to get in the house through the roofs. Call me pessimist but that's what I think smile.gif .

I read somewhere that some developer already get the buyers to sign forms to agree to have their area to be gated even during sales. How come SD didn't come up with that? Oh...even without that, their houses are selling like goreng pisang, no wonder la doh.gif

And yes, DARA is relatively new and has done a lot. It may take a long time to have a strong RA. BTW, I will try to talk to DARA AJK about including new owners. Last time, I went direct to one of them to get myself registered.

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QUOTE(rfm @ Jun 13 2012, 02:17 PM)
Yes, definitely we can get fencing done with RA, through MBSA (or some other bodies, I'm not very sure, we are currently looking into this) but that would be from the residents effort and not much from the developer. That's what I believe SD want, built houses, make a lot of money and leave the rest to the residents. This process takes time, in the meantime, residents have sleepless nights, worrying that some people might try to get in the house through the roofs. Call me pessimist but that's what I think smile.gif .

I read somewhere that some developer already get the buyers to sign forms to agree to have their area to be gated even during sales. How come SD didn't come up with that? Oh...even without that, their houses are selling like goreng pisang, no wonder la doh.gif

And yes, DARA is relatively new and has done a lot. It may take a long time to have a strong RA. BTW, I will try to talk to DARA AJK about including new owners. Last time, I went direct to one of them to get myself registered.
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How to get myself registered? Any contact? btw house now undergoing renovation, haven pindah masuk.... tongue.gif



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QUOTE(rfm @ Jun 13 2012, 02:17 PM)
Yes, definitely we can get fencing done with RA, through MBSA (or some other bodies, I'm not very sure, we are currently looking into this) but that would be from the residents effort and not much from the developer. That's what I believe SD want, built houses, make a lot of money and leave the rest to the residents. This process takes time, in the meantime, residents have sleepless nights, worrying that some people might try to get in the house through the roofs. Call me pessimist but that's what I think smile.gif .

I read somewhere that some developer already get the buyers to sign forms to agree to have their area to be gated even during sales. How come SD didn't come up with that? Oh...even without that, their houses are selling like goreng pisang, no wonder la doh.gif

And yes, DARA is relatively new and has done a lot. It may take a long time to have a strong RA. BTW, I will try to talk to DARA AJK about including new owners. Last time, I went direct to one of them to get myself registered.
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Thanks a lot!!!... rclxms.gif ..Waiting for the good news
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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 13 2012, 02:33 PM)
Thanks a lot!!!... rclxms.gif ..Waiting for the good news
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SD will say that DA non-GG concept is what they've been selling and promoting.. as indirectly stated below.. hehehe..

".......Denai Alam is a 1,000 acre FREEHOLD development refreshingly located in the vast natural settings of Shah Alam, amidst a backdrop of gentle, rolling hills.
The "Denai" or footpath is the lifeline of neighbourliness at Denai Alam. This innovative concept is inspired by the traditional kampung where the entire development is linked via landscaped footpaths. And to create a safe environment for residents, pedestrians and motorised vehicles are completely segregated."

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QUOTE(rfm @ Jun 13 2012, 02:17 PM)
Yes, definitely we can get fencing done with RA, through MBSA (or some other bodies, I'm not very sure, we are currently looking into this) but that would be from the residents effort and not much from the developer. That's what I believe SD want, built houses, make a lot of money and leave the rest to the residents. This process takes time, in the meantime, residents have sleepless nights, worrying that some people might try to get in the house through the roofs. Call me pessimist but that's what I think smile.gif .

I read somewhere that some developer already get the buyers to sign forms to agree to have their area to be gated even during sales. How come SD didn't come up with that? Oh...even without that, their houses are selling like goreng pisang, no wonder la doh.gif

And yes, DARA is relatively new and has done a lot. It may take a long time to have a strong RA. BTW, I will try to talk to DARA AJK about including new owners. Last time, I went direct to one of them to get myself registered.
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I'm very much in favor what you are proposing. IF we have enough Residents that are 'Gung-Ho' for it...we can arrange for a single vendor that can cater for each of the phase. Need not necessarily be gated - If we have a good security phase plan, it can be done without perimeter fencing as well..... nod.gif
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QUOTE(Bert Rizal @ Jun 13 2012, 03:13 PM)
SD will say that DA non-GG concept is what they've been selling and promoting.. as indirectly stated below.. hehehe..

".......Denai Alam is a 1,000 acre FREEHOLD development refreshingly located in the vast natural settings of Shah Alam, amidst a backdrop of gentle, rolling hills.
The "Denai" or footpath is the lifeline of neighbourliness at Denai Alam. This innovative concept is inspired by the traditional kampung where the entire development is linked via landscaped footpaths. And to create a safe environment for residents, pedestrians and motorised vehicles are completely segregated."
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I was fully aware of this when I bought the house, but in the brochure SD also stated "24 hour security". I believed just to inject the feel good
factor to potential buyers rclxms.gif . But is not it frustrating when they actually hire guards that said they only guard SD properties and not the residents'?

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And to create a safe environment for residents, pedestrians and motorised vehicles are completely segregated


Safe in the sense that no joggers knocked down by cars along the denai, but still it lets the penyangaks roam freely smile.gif


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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 03:31 PM)
I'm very much in favor what you are proposing. IF we have enough Residents that are 'Gung-Ho' for it...we can arrange for a single vendor that can cater for each of the phase. Need not necessarily be gated - If we have a good security phase plan, it can be done without perimeter fencing as well..... nod.gif
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Yes, some phases (including mine) are in that process now. But the sad thing is, some families have to go through some trauma first before we could get enough Gung-Ho ness. About a month ago, very daring penyangak almost made their way into a house filled with people, with a parang...they didn't budge even after the alarm went off.

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 03:31 PM)
I'm very much in favor what you are proposing. IF we have enough Residents that are 'Gung-Ho' for it...we can arrange for a single vendor that can cater for each of the phase. Need not necessarily be gated - If we have a good security phase plan, it can be done without perimeter fencing as well..... nod.gif
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+1 Agreed biggrin.gif

Plus its kinda hard to fence each phase since some of the phase are connected thru park and denai. Need to see everything once complete than decide. For all single entry phase, I wouldnt mind to arrange collection to build a proper guard house and install access card system for resident only. This at least can deter a bit of criminal attempt and could increase the property value. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:50 PM)
+1 Agreed  biggrin.gif

Plus its kinda hard to fence each phase since some of the phase are connected thru park and denai. Need to see everything once complete than decide. For all single entry phase, I wouldnt mind to arrange collection to build a proper guard house and install access card system for resident only. This at least can deter a bit of criminal attempt and could increase the property value. thumbup.gif
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I have seen in many other residential areas with tight security even without perimeter fencing. A boom barrier gate for each lanes + constant security patrolling on bikes and foot rangers will in a way be more effective as compared to fencing up the whole phase. CCTV facilities for backlanes with motion detectors will work well too... nod.gif
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 13 2012, 04:00 PM)
I have seen in many other residential areas with tight security even without perimeter fencing. A boom barrier gate for each lanes + constant security patrolling on bikes and foot rangers will in a way be more effective as compared to fencing up the whole phase. CCTV facilities for backlanes with motion detectors will work well too... nod.gif
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yup..$$$$$...but with strong RA this wont be an issue. my phase got 104 unit. If RM150 per month also its already 15K++. enough for 4-5 good quality guards around the clock. One time collection to install security system..
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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 13 2012, 04:07 PM)
yup..$$$$$...but with strong RA this wont be an issue. my phase got 104 unit. If RM150 per month also its already 15K++. enough for 4-5 good quality guards around the clock. One time collection to install security system..
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Money is of course always an obstacle BUT quoting on what you mentioned "with a strong RA this wont be an issue"!!! I wouldn't mind paying RM300 as a one off payment to get a decent security layer system to be executed in my phase if there's strong support. Add another RM100-RM200 monthly for guards & patrols - you have all the right measures instilled to secure your housing area.

Which phase were you from again? tongue.gif

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