Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V34!, The Orange Legion
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 Nov 27 2009, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 27 2009, 02:53 AM) i guess canon is losing thier R&D with larger sensor cmos? high MP low noise FF cmos?? missing?    U dont know Canon is the Mac Daddy of BIG CMOS, high MP, low noise???????? |
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Nov 27 2009, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 27 2009, 02:24 AM) 7D was declare a PRO by the canon, after it's launch and many review, the 'people of canon' state that 7D is a mid level, it cant compete with the pro level. i have no opinion... i don't recall any press release where Canon declared it as PRO level. anyone familiar with Canon's range would already know that as long as it doesn't start with a '1' on the model name, it's semi-pro.  you should hang around Canon users more often.and while it's semi-pro, would you like us to list out how many professionals are using the 7D? even on LYN alone? QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 27 2009, 02:53 AM) true true, i somehow agree with u. say pro, can sell more expensive. LOL    7D, i just dont get it, WHY an APS-C?!?!? it came shock to the world when they announce it as APS-C... http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos7d/page30.asp shock the world with the performance also. |
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Nov 27 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 27 2009, 02:42 AM) =.=|||| why u shoot so far from subject... yeah, taken by ur a300? wow it sharpi think, if u wan to get convince ur camera is good? try this next time u go for event. Direct Flash, Wide Plate out. Shoot. Ignore the harsh flash. just shoot. then u check the picture sharpness + noise. see the differences.again, STOP comparing with 40D,... dont force albnok comes out with his A900 and knock ur head with it...  *edit: show u mine. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on November 27, 2009, 10:05 am QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 27 2009, 02:05 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 40D (canon) same range as A700 (Sony in case you dont know), D300 (nikon) the D60 on the other hand, maybe can be same level as A300 your 'alpha sifu' really tak boleh pakai if like that, not worthy to be called sifu.. 90% of the cases, camera bodies do not need calibration all alphas is able to select AF points, read up on the user manual if still unclear. learn more about your own camera/gear. go to your Fn, then select 'local AF' or something like that. then it uses the D pad to select which AF point u want to use. Added on November 27, 2009, 2:15 am take out your camera, now set WB kelvin to 8000K, take a photo, see the color, that is warm.. now turn it to 2500K, take a photo again, that is cool. see the difference. whether the photog wants to neutralize the ambient or not, depends highly on him/herself and the mood s/he's trying to create. Added on November 27, 2009, 10:14 am QUOTE(hkhk @ Nov 27 2009, 02:15 AM) jimlim007: so now you learned that not everything can be copy and paste? Every setting have their reason.. Must look at the condition and change the parameters accordingly. seriously, that night i really feel pressure in middle of the shoot. there is one colleague ask me to shoot with portrait-dail. let me write some key note in my white alpha bible If everything fail.. just go back to AUTO Mode n settle.. joking  Try n error is the process of learning - D60 is an entry level. 40D is mid range - Always remember the rule, the shutter speed a man can hold without blur "shutter speed = 1/ (focal length x crop factor)" - slower shutter speed , the pic will be blur.. (this is assumed that the SSS is off) - with higher ISO, wider aperture and slower shutter speed, u got more ambient light color. - Depend, I like the photo to have a little bit warm if shoot in those hotel environment, not all will neutralize the white balance. - To use local AF. Press the Fn button => AF area => Local, use the D pad to choose the AF Point (u didn't read the manual?) -------- lens motor don hv.. But my kit lens gear jam before.. Send to Sony service centre.. the personnel say motor jam.. I say.. this lens where got motor.. #$^%#*@&#* Added on November 27, 2009, 10:20 am QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 27 2009, 02:16 AM) jimlim007: Post a blur photo with EXIF. If the shutter speed is too slow it is operator error. Figure out what you are doing wrong before blaming the camera! owned it 13 months d shooting 3k plus photos. the joydtick yeah i seldom use it (not reach 5 times). future will use it more How long have you had your camera? How can you not know about the Local Area AF thing? You use the joystick to select AF point. You need to spend more time with your camera. Bring it out everywhere, friends' birthdays etc. Then you will have experience, and when you need to shoot at a ballroom, you know how. There is a white book in your A300 box... look for it and read through it. got read the white bible la, but some portion read also cant understand  This post has been edited by jimlim007: Nov 27 2009, 10:20 AM |
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Nov 27 2009, 10:45 AM
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so long didnt share pics here.
please C&C taken with a200, KM50    |
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Nov 27 2009, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 27 2009, 02:43 AM) jimlim007: All three pictures show misfocus. ohh. actually i notice one thing that night, the camera some time it is auto set to spot center, why ar? it is other setting lead to auto activate this spot center?Figure out if you were using Wide Area AF (big rectangle), Local Area AF (9 points, can select using D-pad) or Spot Area AF (center spot AF only). The second and third picture looks like it was focused on the center spot (the guy in white is off-center and not in focus.) By the way, it was my colleague's last day at work today - he had an A300 and 18-70mm kit lens. I helped him take pictures with everyone in the office using the Local Area AF mode with the corner AF point aimed at faces. It focused accurately and sharply on the faces. I used Live View for all the shots and made him look rather tall due to the angle (perspective can make the kit lens look like an ultra-wide angle lens.) |
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Nov 27 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Nov 27 2009, 10:45 AM) ohh. actually i notice one thing that night, the camera some time it is auto set to spot center, why ar? it is other setting lead to auto activate this spot center? where u stay? auto set? wat mode did u use? have u change the mode? |
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Nov 27 2009, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Killabee88 @ Nov 27 2009, 10:47 AM) where u stay? auto set? wat mode did u use? have u change the mode? sorry, this Q already answered by lwliam at p16.Added on November 27, 2009, 10:51 am QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 27 2009, 02:48 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and like i said, you're using AF-C (C for continuous) it only uses the centre spot (by default) for focus and changes everytime u move the camera. surely the centre subject will be off-focus. tell u what, now go change it to AF-A permanantly, until u know what is it's use, do not change it Added on November 27, 2009, 11:00 am QUOTE(Killabee88 @ Nov 27 2009, 10:45 AM) so long didnt share pics here. nice shot, #1 niceplease C&C taken with a200, KM50 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on November 27, 2009, 11:01 amomg, after use 13 months, now only know to use the controller to select the "area" This post has been edited by jimlim007: Nov 27 2009, 11:01 AM |
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Nov 27 2009, 11:09 AM
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for me i just use AF-S, easy to compo. (if the subject didnt move)
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Nov 27 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(noprob @ Nov 26 2009, 05:00 PM) wah... love that lens... 70300G... just nice... QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 27 2009, 03:18 AM) i don't recall any press release where Canon declared it as PRO level. I'd have to say that the 7D is one great piece of machinery... love the Noise control and the shutter speed is killer... anyone familiar with Canon's range would already know that as long as it doesn't start with a '1' on the model name, it's semi-pro. you should hang around Canon users more often.and while it's semi-pro, would you like us to list out how many professionals are using the 7D? even on LYN alone? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos7d/page30.asp shock the world with the performance also. LOVE IT! |
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Nov 27 2009, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Nov 27 2009, 09:56 AM) yeah, taken by ur a300? wow it sharp 3k after 13 months? My a200 has less than a year old and i think at least did 15k or more~ Added on November 27, 2009, 10:05 am yeah, i have try this during dinner, tried on every WB, get blue, white, red, green, sad found orange at last minute. i think the CPL is one cause also. i feel it is very important to know ahead the which Kelvin value can produce what color before the event shoot. Added on November 27, 2009, 10:14 am seriously, that night i really feel pressure in middle of the shoot. there is one colleague ask me to shoot with portrait-dail. let me write some key note in my white alpha bible Added on November 27, 2009, 10:20 am owned it 13 months d shooting 3k plus photos. the joydtick yeah i seldom use it (not reach 5 times). future will use it more got read the white bible la, but some portion read also cant understand  |
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Nov 27 2009, 11:56 AM
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Pro or not, it is not about the gear, it's the practice.
A noob who buys a 1Ds just because he has a lot of money, doesn't mean that he's a pro. Even a good photographer with a 1Ds, also doesn't mean that he's a pro. A pro is a person who works exclusively in his particular field, with professional ethics and conducts, supported by professional level of support services. |
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Nov 27 2009, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 27 2009, 11:56 AM) Pro or not, it is not about the gear, it's the practice. agree~ A noob who buys a 1Ds just because he has a lot of money, doesn't mean that he's a pro. Even a good photographer with a 1Ds, also doesn't mean that he's a pro. A pro is a person who works exclusively in his particular field, with professional ethics and conducts, supported by professional level of support services. But we dont deny the gears will determine better result if it has fallen to the right hands~ |
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Nov 27 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 27 2009, 02:24 AM) 7D was declare a PRO by the canon, after it's launch and many review, the 'people of canon' state that 7D is a mid level, it cant compete with the pro level. i have no opinion... does it matter? i give u a situation, a Pro holding a 7D, so the photo come out from the camera u think is Pro level or not?or a Noob holding the flagship 1Ds Mark III PRO camera... so the photo come out is Pro Level or not? I don't think you can tell the difference if Nigel Barker or Joe McNalley is holding an entry level, semi-pro or pro camera given samples photos to examine. It is the photo that come out that is Pro or not, not the gear or the lens. |
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Nov 27 2009, 12:07 PM
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am feel so guilty dragging all into brand & model arguement
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Nov 27 2009, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Nov 27 2009, 12:07 PM) am feel so guilty dragging all into brand & model arguement well i believe certain ppl like certain brand because of the feature. Just that in your case u like the canon feature more than sony. Nothing wrong with that. End of the day it is you that you need to please. If you are not happy with it, wat for? So wat u waiting for? Jump ship |
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Nov 27 2009, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Nov 27 2009, 12:12 PM) well i believe certain ppl like certain brand because of the feature. Just that in your case u like the canon feature more than sony. Nothing wrong with that. End of the day it is you that you need to please. If you are not happy with it, wat for? So wat u waiting for? Jump ship haiyoo, that one is different ma. my skill not there plus comparison banana to apple not apple to apple i go tapao first, hungryThis post has been edited by jimlim007: Nov 27 2009, 12:16 PM |
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Nov 27 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Nov 27 2009, 01:07 PM) am feel so guilty dragging all into brand & model arguement aiks... I saw your problem at previous post.Why don't you use AWB setting ? the flash fired correctly will at least remove the "wrong" white balance on a person one. If still not corrected then you can pull the white balance bar during PP. put the flash on ttl ? ( sorry I dont know sony punya ) mode let it automatically count the setting for your flash before you fire ma  p/s i want flash also bo money... so sad  This post has been edited by 168257061: Nov 27 2009, 12:20 PM |
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Nov 27 2009, 12:40 PM
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hey guys, not been here for a long time... been bz with two events. Pretty interesting stuff....
pic spam from my a300     |
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Nov 27 2009, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Nov 27 2009, 12:40 PM) hey guys, not been here for a long time... been bz with two events. Pretty interesting stuff.... hi bro, can you crop 100% at picture #3 gal face?pic spam from my a300 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 27 2009, 01:13 PM
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jimlim007 - in the end it's about you la.
my little dino is really dino compared to A300 and still the shots come out better than what you shown. it's not gear problem, it's user problem. instead of asking so much, you should just join any of the TT sessions (sony or not) and Q&A there lor. wanna join us this Sunday for TT? (if you're in Klang Valley la) |
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