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This post has been edited by CleverDick: Nov 13 2010, 08:37 PM

1)Increasing numbers of deaths/sudden deaths IS one of the sign

Which happened throughout history and yet, nothing happened huh. I guess the goal post shifted to some other post apocalyptic event. Hey maybe 2012 will be the year for you guys.


2)Well, you cannot see the signs, because you are blinded.

Blind to what, the facts? Nope, I don't think so. Or maybe you guys keep changing the symptoms of these signs so much we've lost count of all the misses.


3)By worldly pleasures....

As opposed to what? Otherworldly pleasures like having sex with angles, demons, ghosts? Imaginary worlds? Imaginary creatures? Hey imagination is good(heck we Malaysians need more of them imho), just don't lose you grip on reality.


4)Why care too much? Just enjoy, no?

Because we are compassionate. Because of humanity. We care for everyone, believers, non believers, atheists, people of different sexual preference, class, wealth, country, race, other inhabitants of this planet. Hey, Earth is the only planet we have right now. So we shouldn't squander it.


5)May you find the Light....

There is no need to find the light. Light is all around us.


6)and saved from the New Worldly Order....

The NWO is dead, non existent, no more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Ord...ling)#Formation
Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash are not in the WWE anymore. Sorry to burst your bubble.

*applies the great power of the mirror*

increasing the number of death while at the same time there's increasing population...
well, you see the signs, because you are blinded.
by out of the world pleasures...
why you care so much? just enjoy, no?
may you find the exit from the maze....
and saved from the minotaur....

This post has been edited by slimey: Nov 13 2010, 09:46 PM

Okay there are way too many religion threads now. I would appreciate if everyone focused their questions, doubt, ideas, theories in one thread.

This answers the big question of this thread. Do human needs religion? Obviously no. It is amazing to read post like above and still trying to discern some sense where there is none. What religion has done to marsalee, one wonders. Would marsalee is better off without religion? Well I don't know but I am reading marsalee's posts that are full of self-delusion and poor logics. Religion is not helping, isn't it?

Understanding, or if I could put in another words, comprehension, is itself a matter of debate.

How do you know you fully comprehend and understand such thing as religion, how sure are you that you understand what you learn from it? and that you do not comprehend it incorrectly when compare to your own peers? In contrast, there are numerous branches in one particular religion that stems from only one holy book. Its interesting to see how people would have differing views and interpretations from just one version of Bible, and yet claim they are well comprehended in Christianity. Talk about protestant, catholic, anglican and what not.

In short, do not make hasty generalization to people that have different comprehension on their religion. They would probably see you as practicing an incorrect way in the same religion. Perhaps they learn more than you do. You are the wrong guy in their eyes.

This post has been edited by Vagrant: Mar 30 2010, 11:34 PM

yes, human needs religion. that's my point of view...

The answer to the question will be so simple if the terms: "delusion" and "spirituality" don't exist.

So why the existence of what we describe as "delusion" and "spirit"?

Why must there be something, instead of nothing?

What if the question isn't really: "Do humans (fix your spelling, TS, lol.) need religion?"

What if the real question is, really just one BIG word:

"WHY?"

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Apr 25 2010, 06:27 PM

for muslim... it yes

yah, i dont know why people still talking about the NWO as if it is still the 90s. but to be fair these uncle looks like they will kick you ass anytime.

That is an oxymoron. If you are a muslim, obviously it's a yes.

Human need religion would depend how civilize they are. Third world/poor country or less civilize country definitely need religion. First world country, rich or civilize people don't need religion.

wow, its just surprising! so then our objective of life is monetary?

as for us islam,money has nothing to do with our real objective of life. its just to support our life. human needs religion to serve the real purpose of life. religion distinguish between civilized and uncivilized human.

wow. people who have no religion are uncivilized?
one cannot be moral without religion?
where's the statistical data last time that showed country with most atheist have lower crime rate

1 question, do you need your parent spoon feeding you after you've grown? NO! We have to live independently. Don't expect GOD to help you if you're in trouble, you live on your own. I'm a buddhist and I don't believe in GOD but I do believe in GOD now after some life experience. =) I pray hard so that my life is better but still my life is bad, and I believe that everyone's life in this world are up and down. GOD gave us choice, either you choose the right path or wrong path, in the end it is what you've chosen and its your responsibility.

I believe that there is only 1 GOD in this world. We human in the past might have separated our beliefs. Hence, alot kind of religions appear. All religion teaches us to be a good person and that is the most important thing that every religions had.

Sorry for my lausy english =X

Monetary?? What money??

What I mean is, if human civilize enough you don't need religion to govern your life. A good enviroment and education from civilize country will help you grow better from kid. And this will grow from your home to town. From town to state till the whole country. Which why some country above the others.

"human needs religion to serve the real purpose of life" - What human need to use religion? Hell and heaven? Next life?

"religion distinguish between civilized and uncivilized human." - Yes if you still live in dark age, hundred yrs ago or in third world country. So what is the use now for people if already civilized enough?

Maybe you can read this --> SOS

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Added on April 27, 2010, 1:15 pmActually many fail to see beyond their circle. The main problem is because of the religion. The mind is close, see one side and narrow minded.

And from what I see, the world situation is opposite where a country with less religion have lower problem compare a religion country.

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Added on April 27, 2010, 1:33 pmWalau, what so life experience make you change your mind? You teh tarik with mr.buddha?

If I not mistaken, as a buddhist, you should not ask for a return or whatever. You only can give and never think of return. No?

What deserve you asking something from a god? Just to believe on him? You pay $1 and you want to get $10million?

Sorry, I don't believe in god. And I hate to see people using religion and demand something from god. Where he/she never contribute anything out at all.

This post has been edited by ozak: Apr 27 2010, 01:33 PM

Hmm, that is what you believe . . . and this is what I believe =D no offense .. er..I pray so that my family is safe, nothing bad happen to them? never ask for $$ from GOD. Yea, I agree with you, mostly people like to ask something from their GOD during prayer especially chinese eg. wealth, knowledge, safety(like me) and etc. About that, I believe GOD wont help us on that, we have to work it out by ourself. =D nothing in this world belongs to you, if you're not hardworking enough to get it.

A man can claims that he's a buddhist, islam, christian or etc, doesn't mean he's a religious man, kind-hearted person, good man that doesn't do bad things.
Nowadays, monks, bomoh and etc uses religion to con people end up girls getting rape by those idiot monks or bomohs. This is not religion's fault. Is WE as a HUMANS's fault. So, don't blame religion, start blaming ourself. = )

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 02:57 PM

but religion insist on taking credit when the believers do something good, why not dont praise religion, praise ourself?

Have you ever heard or see any religion says " you can kill, you can do whatever bad things you like and etc? " If got, you are allowed to blame that religion =D and I will be supporting you for 101%.




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If you're from Malaysia I bet you've studied moral subject from primary till secondary school. 1 question, those moral value come from where? ..

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 03:31 PM

Asking for family safe is already asking god for help. Not just $. Can you never asking/demand anything from god and sincerely follow the religion rule? I bet you can't.

God only help you, if you help the world, the people and be more civilize. Cause you help the god lighten up his job.