Yup, agree with you, GOD will only help you if you help others.

Ya i'm asking from god,my mum always teach me to do good things and I will always help others but not good enough =X. Hinduism said what you do, never hope for any return. =D and I admit, our way of praying is wrong . . . its like a culture already HAHA so its not the religion's fault.. again... We as a human's fault =x

Anyway,bro .. have you read the history of religion?

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 03:56 PM

Some people need. Some people don't.

Yea . . . so guys and girls..stop blaming at religon =( . Is human's fault not following the rule.

In buddhist believe, the more you help the more merit/point you get. So keep collect the point. When you have higher point, the god start to notice you and will ask you " what you want from me?"

Since I don't believe in god, I don't read much religion history. But it was 1 of my favorite subject in school. I only believe in science.

do a search for war mongering verses in koran/islam and bible/christianity. is it any surprise that people from these 2 faith is involved in most of the modern wars?

so now religion is going to claim moral values come from it? and pre religion people are amoral?

I do blame religion. Cause it add and write by people over a hundred century.

LOL, buddhist belief is, the more you help, the higher positive karma you have. So, next life you will have better life. Its not like what you said god start to notice you and ask what you want from god..if like that, I also want..

LOL, I don't see any bad thing about buddhist or hinduism's religon, mind listing any if have? I wanna know too >.<". Islam and christian ,I might not know la ..but I believe that all religion are good. So, I blame humans instead of religion =D


I would say it is human's fault = ). Quran said no smoking, no drinking liquor but still there's some malays doing that. Why is that so? human's fault or religion? Other example, rules, I believe that everyone in this world disobey rules before. Whose fault? WE or the one who set the RULES?

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 06:29 PM

where is it recorded that Buddha said cannot eat beef? and where you get the idea that all chinese are buddhist?

what makes religion right? god said so? what wrong eating pork? what wrong eating beef?

in general,
there's things more important than rules when in certain cases rules can be overlooked. also, some rules just doesn't make sense.

LOL, sorry ^^ yea, not every chinese are buddhist xD

Er, oops...sorry ter-relate with guan yin's story haha ..delete my statement then


Of course, must I draw the whole picture for you? >.<" I just giving an example .. is it a bad example?? =X if it is, sorry then~

what makes religion right? hmm, any religion teaches us to be bad?=_= so nothing wrong right?

What wrong eating pork and beef? because religion say so, we have to follow lor..what to do~if the religion say killing is good, will you kill people? common sense la, there's a limit of believing .. =_="

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 06:34 PM

the bad thing about religion is it kinda stop people thinking.....why and how ....
there's so much dispute going on within one religion and one religion with another. there's war before in the name of religion. which loops back to the 1st point of closing people's mind.
based on your common sense i say many will kill people if religion say so. what's the limit of believing when it comes to religion?

Because of them, you blame on others who doesnt kill too? hmm, its unfair.. if say so, and they start killing.. then they're out of their mind .. I believe in GOD, but there's a limit of believing .. and so far, there's no religion says that . . so please don't blame at religion .. there's alot kind of religion .. don't relate all the religion ..its unfair to other's religion.


This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 06:56 PM

it's true that i am being unfair to some religion in my statement. does that mean some religion is not needed as they bring harm?
if religion does not allow killing, why do believers kill? flaws in religion? then if that is the case the blame is on who? what is god's role in religion?

and how about the statement that religion close one's mind?

why does one follow a religion?

the blame is on the human . LMAO repeat, HUMANS .. there's alot self-claim christian that doesn't go church. So, if they kill someone, you gonna blame on the religion? Humans are greedy, horny, hatred, love and alot more .. thats why you see wars, rape cases, racism and etc. How buddha achieve NIRVANA? you should read that and its hard achieve that. I'm a buddhist and I'm horny, greedy, and sometimes I do mistake, this is fact because we are human and i'm not a monk xD. All my statement based on buddhist because i'm a buddhist .. sorry >.<"

What is GOD's role ? so you think god is responsible on what those believers did? but mostly religion said never do bad things. Why human still do it then? why keep blaming on GOD? HMM

I can't change your mind, because that is what you believe. There's no point telling again and again right? As long as we know we are same as a human. Everyone got their way of thinking .. so cheers!! xD

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 07:29 PM

One of the religion problem is, always think after life. And never think the life now. What the heck you care after life when you won't going to remember? What you care after life when people destroying the world and life now? Would you have after life if there is no life tommorow?

" Its not like what you said god start to notice you and ask what you want from god..if like that, I also want. " - Bro, it is call karma lah. What you do now will result what you get later. I always have this result.

I said religion. Not specific religion. Religion rule is write by the earlier guy who is the founder (god). And it keep adding and rewriting over hundred of century. And who keep write and add it? What are their qualify? Do they consult the world? Cause I see many not logic and crazy rule in religion.

religion is a guide for us to live our life, juz my opinion

We dont need a guide, especially not one that is thousands of years old. The problem is we have people who dont know what 'moderate' is even if it hit them hard on their head. To say we need religion as a moral compass even until today, is outright stupid. We cannot keep falling back on the argument that we need religion 'to keep the sheep in line', in reference to brainless people who will do everything they are told, ironically the very same people who will gladly strap bombs to themselves and blow up a market square, the very same people who blindly will disagree that there is something fundamentally wrong with the Catholic church in the present age.

Have we really gone so much backwards that we need a god-knows-how-old-piece-of-literature to tell us how we should live and how we should not? No, common sense should prevail, but sadly, common sense is lacking.

Religion has become largely irrelevant these days, and its being used for purposes far different than what it was originally intended for. Of course, not everyone is like that, but I think when you've seen one you've seen em all.

People can argue that religion makes them complete, makes them whole, that their belief in god fills them with a sense of purpose, but all these are superficial arguments, in the sense that do we, as humans, have come to specifically require all these things in our lives? No, that is not the case. For if it was so, how is that we can have so many atheists (Numbers increasing by the day, watch out!) who lead exemplary lives without the need to turn to any supernatural deity for guidance.

I repeat myself - Religion is irrelevant is modern society. The only problem is that the disparity in intelligence quotients in humans are so disparate, some form of book-keeping device is needed to control the lower end of the intelligence spectrum. What a pity...

Current life I do good thing for next life.. feedback= still I do good thing in current life ????

You should say it specifically instead generally , its unfair to other religion la =_= and you don't seem understand what I said, its not religion's fault, is we the human's fault, religion never tell us to do bad thing , ..OMG, I've been repeating this for like 2-3 time?>.<

Mind telling which religion keep adding their rules? so far I know only one, mind share it with me?

and what kind of crazy rules??

okay... wanna stop debating le .. like I said everyone got their own way of thinking

Human got brain, knowing what is right or wrong. If its good, we follow it. If its bad, we still follow it? then too bad like you said, brainless and there's a limit of believing ..

This post has been edited by Bpdestiny: Apr 27 2010, 11:55 PM

like i say, you only need to search for warmongering verses in koran/bible to see how it may be used to incite people to fight.

buddhism is better as a peace fostering religion.

same as sometimes a child needs the karung guni man or santa claus to make him behave. so do some grown ups.

so yeah, religion is necessary for some people, but not all people.

note: this is strictly in the sense of the necessity of religion, and not the truthfulness of it. if the santa claus trick works, who cares if he is real or not.

prohibition of eating beef by buddhism is plain bullshit. no such thing. BTW GuanYinMa is not a religion Sometimes i really can't stand people saying that all the time. Giving incense to 'buddha' ? Like, what the hell? Since when buddha needs offerings?