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Faidzal
post Mar 11 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 07:06 AM)
AES too expensive for me though. Saturn and Dreamcast were in fact home to the finest fighting games. Sega should have shown own off how the Capcom fighting games like X-men Vs Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter and Vampire Savior were better than the PlayStation versions, and used them as selling points. But no thanks to Bernie Stolar, who declared the future of the company is not in the Saturn, it effectively killed the Saturn (in the west). So many games that never saw a western release...
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too bad that neo geo x project was stopped bcos snk playmore not happy with tommo.com...

now it's becoming collector's item, prices are almost the same like 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc. hand aes systems....

and the 2nd volume memory card is even harder to find...

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post Mar 11 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 11 2016, 08:46 AM)
retro stuff must get hardcopy only nostalgic  brows.gif
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now im broke...

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post Mar 11 2016, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 11 2016, 12:18 PM)
good luck finding that for less than jpy10,000...

oh and btw...

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Street Fighter Zero 3 without 4MB cartridge ye? That's the only 4MB game I don't have yet. Btw, no Cyberbots for Saturn? I keep forgetting to get that one too.
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post Mar 11 2016, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 11 2016, 12:22 PM)
now im broke...

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 12:26 PM)
Street Fighter Zero 3 without 4MB cartridge ye? That's the only 4MB game I don't have yet. Btw, no Cyberbots for Saturn? I keep forgetting to get that one too.
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u got a nice place to keep your retro machines?

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post Mar 11 2016, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 11 2016, 12:28 PM)
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Nope. I still live with my family, and they don't like me having my stuff all around the house. So most of the time they're kept away, unless I want to test out or play something. At most I just have 2 consoles hooked up to the TV. These 2 years was a bit different. 360 and PS3 hooked up to living room TV, Xbox One hooked up to my 24" monitor upstairs, where I have my racing wheel.
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post Mar 11 2016, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 12:26 PM)
Street Fighter Zero 3 without 4MB cartridge ye? That's the only 4MB game I don't have yet. Btw, no Cyberbots for Saturn? I keep forgetting to get that one too.
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i have 2 4mb cartridges already from marvel vs street fighter and vampire savior...

so no need to buy more, besides i like games to have spine cards/obi...

those pix taken in 2009 during pindah rumah period...

and as for cyberbots...

cyberbots bought in 2011 for saturn version and 2012 for psone version...

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just click the 'show posts by this member only' to see all of my uploaded pics stuff

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1217006?author=Faidzal
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post Mar 11 2016, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 11 2016, 12:28 PM)
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u got a nice place to keep your retro machines?

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overspent on new games...

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oh and since i keep moving houses for the past 2 years, never managed to re-set my games setup.

right now the only console hooked up to tv is a ps3, and even then play maybe 1-2 hours per week...

the rest are in boxes in 3 different houses rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

maybe in 2017 when everything is settled down with my waifu, i will rehook the ps2/saturn to my backup tv in JB...
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post Mar 11 2016, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 12:34 PM)
Nope. I still live with my family, and they don't like me having my stuff all around the house. So most of the time they're kept away, unless I want to test out or play something. At most I just have 2 consoles hooked up to the TV. These 2 years was a bit different. 360 and PS3 hooked up to living room TV, Xbox One hooked up to my 24" monitor upstairs, where I have my racing wheel.
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HM dun allow mancave?
that ikea cupboard is a good idea.
but only if you're in a fully aircon house/room.
else dust!

QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 11 2016, 12:41 PM)
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i know what you mean
i am working overseas so my stuff is all in storage while i rent out the house
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post Mar 11 2016, 01:47 PM

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Since u like capcom,this One also from capcom


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post Mar 11 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 10 2016, 12:22 PM)
There were quite a few versions of SF2 between 1993-1995. There was one called SF IBM, which was the version I played. There were also rumors of a "Champion Edition" in 1993, which I never saw, simply because the HDD space required was 20MB. My PC had an incredibly low 40MB size back then haha.

And there was another one called SF Liu, which more or less had all the characters EXCEPT Vega, which had been replaced with Andy Bogard for some reason. SF Liu was a "port" of Hyper Fighting, where some stuff like Guile's Roundhouse flash kick hitting twice, and Dhalsim had his teleport. Even the character portraits used the colors for Hyper Fighting.

There was an OFFICIAL version of SF2 The World Warrior for PC, and it SUCKED. Capcom gave the license to US Gold, who really did a half-assed job. The classic SF2 music was replaced with a terrifying new soundtrack, which simply looped all the time. Instead of 6 buttons, there was only 1 punch button and 1 kick button. You had to hit punch + a direction to trigger stronger attacks. For example, hit the Punch button to get Jab, hit Punch + Back to get Strong, and hit Punch + Up to get Fierce. And all special moves used the Strong version only. Now, I could forgive the game if this was the only problem, but even the gameplay sucked! It only looked like SF2, but plays nothing like it. Characters soared in the air when jumping, the "physics" of SF2 was gone, and the combo system didn't work.

But when it was time to port Super Street Fighter II Turbo, all the previous issues with SF2 The World Warrior was forgiven. Ported by Gametek in 1995, this was the version you played. Did you know there were only 2 versions of SSF2T released initially? One for the 3DO, and one for PC-DOS. Wait, didn't SSF2T REQUIRE a 486DX2/66 to run? I was chugging along with my 363SX/33, and mine was even worse. I could see every single frame of animation lol. At that time I didn't even know the game had super moves, until I accidentally did Ryu's Shinkuu Hadouken while trying to execute a Shoryuken. See, because SF2 had strict input timing, and because my stupid PC was damn slow, I can't execute special moves in a smooth motion, otherwise it will not register. Instead of doing Down, Down-Forward,Forward + Punch, mine was Down, half second pause, Down-Forward, half-second pause, Forward, half-second pause, Punch. So, while trying to do a Shoryuken (Forward,Down,Down-Forward+Punch), I must have entered the Hadouken motion twice instead. From then on, I started looking into the other character's Super moves.
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You know your street fighter PC history more than me smile.gif

I think 486DX4 was the minimum for SSF2T but I didn't mess around with it once I upgraded to Pentium 133 around the end of 1995 / 1996 ? as I dont have the 5 1/4 floppy drive. Can't remember where I got SSF2T in 5 1/4 as I didn't recall buying it or copying it from shops. Started buying PC games via 3 1/2 floppy at the ground floor Imbi plaza or was it SG wang - memory abit fuzzy now, the small shop was in a corner.
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post Mar 11 2016, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 08:42 AM)
In Japan at least, Capcom was more forthcoming that the Playstation version was gimped. The original title for the NTSC/J release of X-men VS Street Fighter was X-men VS Street Fighter EX Edition, to signify the loss of tag battle. The second character was used only during team up hyper combo. For the release of Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter, they managed to get tag battle working, but ONLY with the same characters, like four Spider-man onscreen. This showed the RAM limitation of the Playstation, since it couldn't load all four character data, as well as other stuff like background data, sounds and animations.

I'm slowly trying to collect all of Capcom's 4MB Saturn games. Last year I finally found Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter and Dungeons & Dragons Collection. Now I just need to look for Street Fighter Zero 3.
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yeah, remembered that. i read somewhere it was due to the limitatins of the hardware.
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post Mar 11 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(killermall @ Mar 11 2016, 01:47 PM)
Since u like capcom,this One also from capcom
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Tekki/Steel Battalion! I saw a shop in Plaza Singapura that had it on display, but they weren't selling it. That one was for personal collection only. I reaaaaally want that if I can find it for sale.

QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Mar 11 2016, 02:30 PM)
You know your street fighter PC history more than me smile.gif

I think 486DX4 was the minimum for SSF2T but I didn't mess around with it once I upgraded to Pentium 133 around the end of 1995 / 1996 ? as I dont have the 5 1/4 floppy drive. Can't remember where I got SSF2T in 5 1/4 as I didn't recall buying it or copying it from shops. Started buying PC games via 3 1/2 floppy at the ground floor Imbi plaza or was it SG wang - memory abit fuzzy now, the small shop was in a corner.
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Haha yeah I was kind obsessed with SF2. I consumed anything SF2 related. Chinese comics (although I can't read it), game guides, sticker books, you name it. Even knockoff games like Super Fighter was an acceptable substitute for SF2. I kinda got a reputation as a Street Fighter expert in my school. Not playing it mind you, but things like SF history and lore. Yes, I was a nerd. Still am actually biggrin.gif

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Mar 11 2016, 03:42 PM)
yeah, remembered that. i read somewhere it was due to the limitatins of the hardware.
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Both Saturn and Playstation had only 2MB RAM, but the Saturn can use the 1MB or 4MB RAM expansion cartridge to give it a memory boost. That, and the Saturn was originally pushed as the ultimate 2D console, so it handles most 2D games better than the Playstation. Too bad the industry was shifting towards 3D, so the Playstation and N64 were favored over Saturn. Still, as an arcade player, I loved that the Saturn had ports of the Model1/Model2 games. Seeing Virtua Fighter 1 and Virtua Fighter 2 running smoothly on the Saturn was a genuinely mindblowing experience for me. Never mind that the initial release of VF1 was broken.

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post Mar 11 2016, 04:22 PM

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SFIBM lives on in Youtube! But this looks like an updated version based on SSF2. The one I played was based on The World Warrior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZD3SDZGxM


And this is SFLIU. This looks like the exact one I played. I think. I didn't watch the whole video, so I don't know whether they have Vega or Andy Bogard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZD3SDZGxM
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post Mar 11 2016, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 05:22 PM)
SFIBM lives on in Youtube! But this looks like an updated version based on SSF2. The one I played was based on The World Warrior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZD3SDZGxM
And this is SFLIU. This looks like the exact one I played. I think. I didn't watch the whole video, so I don't know whether they have Vega or Andy Bogard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZD3SDZGxM
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I wanna sell My Steel battalion complete with controller.pm me if u really interested.hehehe
The Game itself Still new while the controller only open to inspect
Btw u should find this Game too



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post Mar 11 2016, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(killermall @ Mar 11 2016, 07:28 PM)
I wanna sell My Steel battalion complete with controller.pm me if u really interested.hehehe
The Game itself Still new while the controller only open to inspect
Btw u should find this Game too
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Wow really? I kinda want to, but don't you feel sayang to let go?

Hmmm I kinda don't remember if I have Final Fight Revenge. Let's assume I don't
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post Mar 11 2016, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Mar 11 2016, 09:24 PM)
Wow really? I kinda want to, but don't you feel sayang to let go?

Hmmm I kinda don't remember if I have Final Fight Revenge. Let's assume I don't
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Wanna get rid of it since it consume so much Space.
That FF were super expensive.i wonder Y it cost so much.
Maybe My next trip i want to find that.if u really want that Steel do le me know k


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post Mar 11 2016, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 11 2016, 01:21 PM)
too bad that neo geo x project was stopped bcos snk playmore not happy with tommo.com...

now it's becoming collector's item, prices are almost the same like 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc. hand aes systems....

and the 2nd volume memory card is even harder to find...

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Which AES? The Neo Geo X? How much it cost right now? Collector item already? I didnt get their game due to broke back then.
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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Mar 11 2016, 10:56 PM)
Which AES? The Neo Geo X? How much it cost right now? Collector item already? I didnt get their game due to broke back then.
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AES loose easily can fetch rm700 above for box set 1k above.for neo geo x,haven't had any clue.
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post Mar 12 2016, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Mar 11 2016, 02:30 PM)
You know your street fighter PC history more than me smile.gif

I think 486DX4 was the minimum for SSF2T but I didn't mess around with it once I upgraded to Pentium 133 around the end of 1995 / 1996 ? as I dont have the 5 1/4 floppy drive. Can't remember where I got SSF2T in 5 1/4 as I didn't recall buying it or copying it from shops. Started buying PC games via 3 1/2 floppy at the ground floor Imbi plaza or was it SG wang - memory abit fuzzy now, the small shop was in a corner.
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back then was too naive to know what is real and what is cetak rompak i remember i had so many sf2 in my pc.
there was one which basically had two characters which is ryu and chunli only.
i remember the hyper fighting version at the arcade was crazy especially vega and zangief moves the more levels you go "up" when you catch the opponent the more levels you go "down" the more damage.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 12 2016, 09:16 AM)
back then was too naive to know what is real and what is cetak rompak i remember i had so many sf2 in my pc.
there was one which basically had two characters which is ryu and chunli only.
i remember the hyper fighting version at the arcade was crazy especially vega and zangief moves the more levels you go "up" when you catch the opponent the more levels you go "down" the more damage.
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Ryu and Chun Li? Never seen that one before. The one I know was the "demo" version of SFIBM, with only Ryu and Guile. It was even covered by Star In-tech (remember this?) back in 1993.

Oh yeah, you're referring to the "Rainbow Edition". A hacked Taiwan version of the game where you change characters at any time by hitting Start. And some special moves had crazy attributes, like the Jab Shoryuken causing 5 homing Hadoukens to chase after your opponent. Or Zangief's Lariat no longer vulnerable to crouching attacks because there is now a Yoga Flame coming out from his legs. And you can continue to go up multiple "floors", appearing from the bottom of the stage.

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