because SPDIF coaxial and optical can only accept LPCM uncompressed stereo. if multichannel, it must be compressed.

Meaning..?? how do i get the best setup for the HD audio output..?? mind to elaborate pls..?? sorry as i'm not very familiar with the new Technology.. Learning in process now...

for HD audio output, which is lossless audio, you need HDMI coonection which can cater for this high bandwidth data. SPDIF coaxial and optical can't do it.

Like above reply, Optical can't handle the decoded high LPCM Bandwidth (Not just the Pioneer, but every AVR system also same).

That's the standard excuse given by the industry, maybe to force you to upgrade to HDMI

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Added on February 2, 2010, 8:42 pmLike I have already told you before, if you want best sound from your fat PS3 (which can't bitstream HD Audio to HDMI) when watching Blu-ray, set output to LPCM on HDMI. Your LPCM will still be HD Lossless Audio.

If for some reason or another you want to use Optical , then set your PS3 to bitstream (The system will automatically downgrade from HD Audio to regular DD or DTS 5.1 ). If you don't you will only get stereo since the optical can't handle the decoded LPCM HD audio.

I am not sure if Fat PS3 can select different output for different connections. If can, then set LPCM to HDMI and Bitstream to Optical.

If you are still unsure, then just buy the Slim PS3 and set everything to Bitstream and all will be OK

This post has been edited by Ngto: Feb 2 2010, 08:58 PM

Is that true so?, i was well advised that optical output is crystal clear than HDMI audio?

guys, is the MCACC in the VSX-818 and VSX-819 important?
i'm torn between the HTP-819SW (comes with VSX-819) and HTP-519SW (comes with VSX-519) set.

would appreciate any input. budget is a major consideration, since the price difference is about RM800 between the sets.
both comes with RS3SW active sub, SMS800 speaker, just the AVR is different. i don't really need HD audio support right now (or in the near future).

anyone that have the VSX-819, could you tweak the time alignment settings?

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Added on February 3, 2010, 3:06 pmanswering my own question:
just downloaded and read the VSX-819 user guide and indeed users could tweak the time alignment settings.

but still doesn't answer whether the MCACC would be an important feature to have.

This post has been edited by paskal: Feb 3 2010, 03:06 PM

MCACC is an automated calibration tool.. if u hv a calibration sofware like Ovations Avia or DVE n a spl mtr, u could do de basics urself too..
If u dont then its basing on ur ears n it aint tat accurate.. tats why newer avrs bundle tis in..
Other brands hv diff names for tis : Yammys YPAO , marantz/onks Auddyssey..

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This post has been edited by dirtrun: Feb 3 2010, 04:36 PM

i know.
but i could get meself an SPL meter. friends have that (though they don't use it for HT calibration).
would it be that hard to set it up manually?

i've read VSX-519 user guide and it seems that the time alignment settings are done in distance (as opposed to delay in miliseconds).
so would an SPL meter and tape measure be enough to get the same performance as MCACC?

More like you were ILL advised .

Probably whoever advised you set his fat PS3 to LPCM but output it to Optical and the sound was downgraded to stereo without his knowledge.

Hi,

I m not veri familiar wif MCACC .. heck I aint familiar wif my 7002's auddyssey either.. I calibrated manually wif wat I jus mentioned n its fine by me.. of cos there would be others who would differ..

my 2 cts
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i've read around that manual calibration with spl meter fixs auto calibration errors. the best and most accurate calibration have to be done manually with spl meter.

guess i don't need MCACC after all. spl meter and tape measure it is then

bro where do u buy.. im looking for bargain avr also.

Guys, any comment on HTZ-787DVD?
I'm looking at this models at HN and will make my decisions within this weekend.
Can sifus here recommend me or adv. if this model is good?
My budget is less than RM3k.

Hi..bro i have read sombody review is USA site, he said MCACC is the best atuo calibration he ever had
becoz he own onkyo and yamaha before.....
So... for me MCACC is important and very accurate but if you want to confirm
with other gauge is ok...

Microfone for MCACC was upgraded in LX series to improve accuracy - pioneer website



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"sound without quality is just noise"

with 3k budget, better go for AVR and speaker package. else you'll regret.

hi,
as i looking for the AVR, i asked few kedai in BM and kulim.
VSX 819 1 store quoted RM1.6K and VSX919 RM2200.

izit worth to spend rm600 more for 919.

one seller from other store pushing for yamaha rx-v465 which he said the pioneer HDMI didnt carry sound it only picture for sound u need to have optical or coax. izit true?

i kind of new to HT arena

what he say is true if he's refering to the older pioneer 818 &518 as well as yamaha 365 & 363 that only support hdmi switching. all the new models support hdmi repeater function.

and not to mention the pioneer vsx-819 could decode hd audio for bluray playback.

anyone want to let go 818 avr?

i am looking for below 1k avr with fm tuner!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1253902
how about a yammy ?