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HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?
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SyokVPN
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Feb 2 2010, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Nov 3 2009, 03:22 PM) People already said the signal for digital is 0 or 1. So, not matter what make the HDMI cable, you still received 0 or 1 signal. You think better quality HDMI can produced 0 or 1 in this form: 0 or 1? So, do you think if machine received better looking 1 or 0  , your picture and audio qualities will be better? Conclusion, if your HDMI cable can received 0 or 1 signal (mean it is good HDMI cable) or can't received 0 or 1 signal (mean this is defect HDMI cable). That's all, case closed.  digital signals are weak. if the cable quality is really bad, it will change to 1 to 0 or 0 to 1 making the video/audio slightly distorted... but... it is the worst case scenario... usually the cable don't really matter much since the cable is not long .... even for the those analog speaker cables you can just buy normal wires to replace them.... it makes very little different (almost unnoticeable by untrained ears) instead of gold coated super expansive cable.
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ar188
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Feb 2 2010, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(SyokVPN @ Feb 2 2010, 11:34 PM) digital signals are weak. if the cable quality is really bad, it will change to 1 to 0 or 0 to 1 making the video/audio slightly distorted... but... it is the worst case scenario... usually the cable don't really matter much since the cable is not long ....
can you tell me if the 1 change to 0 or the 0 change to 1, do you think it will make the image slightly softer or less colorful less sharp? or do you think it'll just black out no video or flashes of green/ purple sparks on the TV screen etc?
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adamw
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Feb 4 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 2 2010, 11:53 PM) can you tell me if the 1 change to 0 or the 0 change to 1, do you think it will make the image slightly softer or less colorful less sharp? or do you think it'll just black out no video or flashes of green/ purple sparks on the TV screen etc? Wah! Like Poltergeist wor.
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ar188
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Feb 4 2010, 01:32 PM
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that's digital to you...
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Feb 4 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(SyokVPN @ Feb 2 2010, 11:34 PM) digital signals are weak. if the cable quality is really bad, it will change to 1 to 0 or 0 to 1 making the video/audio slightly distorted... but... it is the worst case scenario... usually the cable don't really matter much since the cable is not long .... even for the those analog speaker cables you can just buy normal wires to replace them.... it makes very little different (almost unnoticeable by untrained ears) instead of gold coated super expansive cable. Can you provide me link for further read up about the 0's & 1's. Kinda of interesting topic this is..
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SyokVPN
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Feb 4 2010, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 2 2010, 11:53 PM) can you tell me if the 1 change to 0 or the 0 change to 1, do you think it will make the image slightly softer or less colorful less sharp? or do you think it'll just black out no video or flashes of green/ purple sparks on the TV screen etc? It is very unlikely that a large group of data is being corrupted during the transfer, usually happens when the cable became really old or rusty where the electric signal need to go thru high resistance wires. A new HDMI cable (even the cheapest one) shouldn't give you any visible flaws. Finding flaws with HDMI is like searching for a needle in a haystack (unless you're crazy enough to buy a monster cable just to compare the barely visible flaws). Further more even a monster cable cant guarantee that the video will be error free... maybe just 0.1% better. QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Feb 4 2010, 04:44 PM) Can you provide me link for further read up about the 0's & 1's. Kinda of interesting topic this is.. It is all over the internet... i cant remember exactly where i read the info... since i'm from computer science background... thats common sense to me... This post has been edited by SyokVPN: Feb 4 2010, 05:33 PM
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SUSMatrix
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Feb 4 2010, 05:32 PM
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there is no difference for cheap an expensive HDMI cables...provided u go REALLY LONG. You'll see artifacts and distortion if ur cable is broken. It either works or it don't. I have a 12foot HDMI cheap cable from my PC to LCD TV. Works perfectly.
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SyokVPN
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Feb 4 2010, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 4 2010, 05:32 PM) there is no difference for cheap an expensive HDMI cables...provided u go REALLY LONG. You'll see artifacts and distortion if ur cable is broken. It either works or it don't. I have a 12foot HDMI cheap cable from my PC to LCD TV. Works perfectly. yes... when you go really looooooooooooooooooong... the resistance in the cable matters.
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Feb 5 2010, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(SyokVPN @ Feb 4 2010, 05:28 PM) It is very unlikely that a large group of data is being corrupted during the transfer, usually happens when the cable became really old or rusty where the electric signal need to go thru high resistance wires. A new HDMI cable (even the cheapest one) shouldn't give you any visible flaws. Finding flaws with HDMI is like searching for a needle in a haystack (unless you're crazy enough to buy a monster cable just to compare the barely visible flaws). Further more even a monster cable cant guarantee that the video will be error free... maybe just 0.1% better. It is all over the internet... i cant remember exactly where i read the info... since i'm from computer science background... thats common sense to me... Well, i'll look around then..thanks..
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eMKs
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Feb 5 2010, 10:26 AM
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ar188
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Feb 5 2010, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(SyokVPN @ Feb 4 2010, 05:28 PM) It is very unlikely that a large group of data is being corrupted during the transfer, usually happens when the cable became really old or rusty where the electric signal need to go thru high resistance wires. A new HDMI cable (even the cheapest one) shouldn't give you any visible flaws. Finding flaws with HDMI is like searching for a needle in a haystack (unless you're crazy enough to buy a monster cable just to compare the barely visible flaws). Further more even a monster cable cant guarantee that the video will be error free... maybe just 0.1% better. It is all over the internet... i cant remember exactly where i read the info... since i'm from computer science background... thats common sense to me... I was trying to explain when there is error, the problem will be distinct visible error shown on the TV end on the screen.. due to digital nature of the cable, unlike Analog cables..
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Feb 5 2010, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Feb 5 2010, 10:26 AM) Thanks..that was useful mate..
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naminakata87
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Mar 3 2010, 03:24 AM
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today i bought new hdmi cabel,RM 45...but when i connect to my graphic card&to the my lcd..the sound come out from tv..i dont want game sound go to the tv,but i want the sound go through my speaker ...how do i want to settle this?its drive me crazy...cant use my headphone also..huhu
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matyeo
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Mar 3 2010, 04:09 AM
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i won bidding audioquest HDMI 3 for less then RM100.... i think i paid for the material they used and good finishing cable...
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eMKs
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Mar 3 2010, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(naminakata87 @ Mar 3 2010, 03:24 AM) today i bought new hdmi cabel,RM 45...but when i connect to my graphic card&to the my lcd..the sound come out from tv..i dont want game sound go to the tv,but i want the sound go through my speaker ...how do i want to settle this?its drive me crazy...cant use my headphone also..huhu You should post your problem here rather than this topic Quick guide: change your default audio playback devices
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minimize
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Mar 3 2010, 12:14 PM
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It is all HDMI cable in the market now is ver 1.3? I'm afraid if any possibility they sell 1.0/1.2 HDMI cable. That why is very cheap.
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azbro
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Mar 3 2010, 12:27 PM
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Tested my Pioneer HDMI cable (complimentary gift) Vs Tesco 1.3b HDMI cables..cound not detect anything difference. Maybe my setup is pretty basic to detect any difference.
Tesco one can get for RM15 now....It used to be RM30 I think. Carrefour one seems like no more oledi.
This post has been edited by azbro: Mar 3 2010, 12:28 PM
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Mar 3 2010, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 3 2010, 12:27 PM) Tested my Pioneer HDMI cable (complimentary gift) Vs Tesco 1.3b HDMI cables..cound not detect anything difference. Maybe my setup is pretty basic to detect any difference. Tesco one can get for RM15 now....It used to be RM30 I think. Carrefour one seems like no more oledi. Try to play bluray with bitstream HD audio. Bluray need minimum 54.0Mbps data transfer rate. Maybe be u can see a different. But it if 1.3b cable, I think no problem at all.
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chewkl
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Mar 3 2010, 01:43 PM
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Peasant
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These people who talk about "seeing" a difference comparing HDMI cables never learn...
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arremie
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Mar 3 2010, 01:49 PM
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sure got difference one. thick purple color cable looks nicer than pencil thin pvc black cable
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