hi guys,
I am currently in the midst of trying to lose weight. I drink a lot of milk for the protein(up to 2 packs a day, have reduced it back to 1). Dropping milk completely out my diet is not really an option as the majority of the protein I take comes from milk. I was thinking of replacing it with soy. I know that soy protein is not as good as milk protein...

The soy milk we have in the market are sweetened. That means they add sugar.

And drinking A LOTTTTT of soy milk can increase your estrogen level --> man boobs. (This one, I am not sure. I'm just throwing this out so that you can go read more about it.)

Well, that's what I read in one of the issues in Men's Health. It mentioned about a guy with man boobs for drinking tonnes of commercial soy milk daily.
But then again, that's the US, with their GM soy and different soy milk processing.

Yea, I have heard about the moobs thing too. However there are vegan bodybuilders who take soy, and they don't have moobs. Dunno whether want to take a risk or not

I think u really got to drink quite an amount to have that side effect. Read it somewhere, forgot wats the volumn.

By the way, even last time i buy those soy powder from the market, the carbs and protein ratio is crazy, is almost like 2:1 carbs: protein. Why dont u consume meat or eggs???

The research said like that. (i read in menshealth magazine)

If you rely on the 36 measely grams of protein in a brick of milk as your main source of protein then you are under-proteinized. Take 3g/kg of BW!

Soy products contain ESTROGEN. Thats why you can see out there many man have man boobs. Its recomended by health and fitness experts to consumed 2 serving of soy products PER WEEK only. Even ladies, like me avoid soya bean. Your testosterone level will go down and estrogen level will go up.

HL has 50gm per pack. And I do take about 200gm of protein per day. BTW my weight is 115kg, so 3kg is too much.
The reason why I take milk is bcos of convenience.

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Added on October 29, 2009, 5:58 pmYea, that could cause a problem. Maybe should take zinc to balance the effects of soy (zinc helps increase testosterone)
This post has been edited by jags: Oct 29 2009, 05:58 PM

i have no idea what made you think taking soya milk will make you slimmer
and what is the reason you take 200g protein if you are not the bodybuilder

and if you want to lose fat, please take lesser milk.

there is alot better option.

If you want to lose fat, your body doesn't recognise if it's soya milk or cow milk, it only recognise how much calories you are taking. The more calories you are taking, the more fat you are going to build if you don't burn them away.

Protein is protein, which is just chains of amino acid. From where did you read about the protein in soya is not as good as milk's protein?

This post has been edited by Florian: Oct 29 2009, 07:42 PM

i remember darkie or pizza or someone else in this forum mentioning that its not possible to get moobs just by drinking soy milk, because the estrogen amounts in it are wayyy negligible.

Correct,you'll need to drink at least several gallons a day to notice the difference!

I've been taking soya milk regularly because of it's high protein content, it's better compared to teh tarik/milo ais in terms of sugar/carbs.

If you think soy makes you to menstruate or have boobs, your loss.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_soy_contain_estrogen

Buy unsweetened soy milk from the market, and you don't have to worry about sugar content.

how is the protein content compared to whey protein
is whey still win?

Whey + milk is win

Hmmm, can't find any soy protein sellers here in LYN.
Maybe i didn't search at the right place.
Anyone care to point out some threads?
Cheers.

I also wanted to drink lots of milk...but the prob is i got CMPA[Cow Milk Protein Allergy], so im taking lots of soy milk...is ok rite? as everytime i dirnk the normal milk, my phelgm will starts to form a lot and stuck my whole throat...which is very suffering

You can also try goat milk.

Tofu rich in protein too.
Good for diet.

Tofu Fa FTW!!!



This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Nov 5 2009, 03:42 PM

http://www.fitceleb.com/node/6722

Tofu rich in protein . Even rich in estrogen. If you dont mind take more tofu.

I mean if buy frm market? Those already packed one...cant seems to find goat milk in packet wor >_<

Read about it as well in one of the magazine. Apparently there was a guy who switched to soy milk from milk because he is lactose intolerant. His daily intake for soy milk daily is 3 liter and after a few months, he develop man boobs, became sensitive, hard to get a hard on etc. went to a few doctors and they couldn't find out the main course for all the effects except for one who told him to stop drinking soy milk. Everything went back to normal after that bla bla bla.

Well, i guess it happens when one drinks it excessively. 3 liters a day is alot.

In the article in MensHealth about soy milk/estrogenman boobs few months ago, the example it gave was about an army retiree who drank SIX LITERS of soy milk a day, hence ended up with man boobs.

It's 6 liters for god sake, I'd suffer trying to drink 6 liters of water a day, more so 6 liters of soy milk everyday swt.

Dear Ts,

I doubt that milk is the main culprit that u r not getting slimmer. In fact, milk assist in weight lost. Google it urself.

Reducing your caloric intake it the key here. Also, It's better to decrease the amount of carbs intake than protein ~!!