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 Budget 2010: 1Malaysia, Together We Prosper, Summary & Discussion

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dreamer101
post Oct 26 2009, 05:24 AM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Oct 25 2009, 11:04 PM)
Hello.. may be you are living at a low cost area which costs low.

RM2000 is not enough for car and house, plus other expenses.

I came from seremban, I guess one person needs at least RM1000 per month for retirement. (food already 500++)

I guess living in city is not that cheap. Ok, hang around with which group of people depends on which job you are in.

By the way, I dun believe in boosting myself  by buying expensive cars and use branded stuff, but I do need one or two pieces.

That's y I m quite surprise how fresh graduates can buy a honda city in their first job.

Dreamers, you are right. hang around with WRONG group people does make a lot of human made problems, however, sometimes there is no choice for that.. wink.gif
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epalbee3,

1) I live in Klang. I do not believe the cost of living is much lower than Seremban.

<<RM2000 is not enough for car and house,>>

2) Car and house are paid off. And, usually, at retirement, the car and house had been paid off.

<<Ok, hang around with which group of people depends on which job you are in.>>

3) Who say you MUST hang around the same group of people after work??

<<however, sometimes there is no choice for that.. wink.gif>>

4) You ALWAYS have a choice. Now, as too whether you exercise that choice is up to you.

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post Oct 26 2009, 09:25 AM

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“If you have three children and your household income is RM3,000 or below, you’re almost at the poverty line,” he said, adding that many lower income families had more than four children and still needed to pay for their cars, houses and other mortgage payments.
src: RM3000 is poverty line
Now that's interesting. I thought there was a topic some time ago on an income of RM4000 or so being considered rich?

QUOTE(! Love Money @ Oct 25 2009, 11:04 AM)
and LGE has given a very great comment that surprised me...
those people who worked at iskandar will only be taxed 15% while the rest of the rakyat in malaysia should taxed 26%...
is this considered as 1Malaysia? WTF!
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Another “first-of-its-kind” tax proposal is where knowledge workers for specific sectors who work and reside in Iskandar Malaysia would be subject to a flat tax rate of 15% on chargeable income.

Coincidentally, the rate Singapore tax resident individual is progressive with a cap at 20%, and for a non-tax resident, the tax for employment income is a minimum of 15%. This incentive applies to both Malaysians and non-citizens, and appears to be designed to ensure that Iskandar Malaysia will be an attractive workplace for foreign and local talent.
src: Star Online
That's what I meant by attracting and retaining expats and professionals. Well it's either they do something to make Iskandar really attractive, or they can forget about the whole project altogether.
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post Oct 26 2009, 01:19 PM

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can i know how gov't give the relieft on the broadband 500?
eg. i subscribe streamyx combo $60/month.
how much relief can i get? $60*12?
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post Oct 26 2009, 01:26 PM

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i think for combo, should claim 40*12=RM480

p/s: i'm also using combo
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post Oct 26 2009, 01:30 PM

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For Credit Card RM50/card
Scenario 1:
i am holding card now. expired 2010.
do i get tax?

Scenario 2:
i am holding card now. expired after 2010
do i get tax?

Scenario 3:
I get a new card in 2010 and cancel it in the same year.
Do i get tax?


Added on October 26, 2009, 1:32 pmwhere u got the figure of $40?

QUOTE(acougan @ Oct 26 2009, 01:26 PM)
i think for combo, should claim 40*12=RM480

p/s: i'm also using combo
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Added on October 26, 2009, 1:41 pmFor Insurance: gov't allowed extra 1k Relief on Annuity Premiums. what is that Annuity Premiums?

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post Oct 26 2009, 01:42 PM

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haha, i simply guesstimate the figure RM40. since it is a "combo" package, means not all RM60 is broadband fees, some is phone fees

RM40*12 still less than RM500 mah, LOL
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post Oct 26 2009, 04:25 PM

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we got lousy pm so of cos get lousy budget, more burden for the rakyat again, the proper way of getting money should be implementing the GST instead of this easy rich scheme from service charge of credit cards

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Oct 26 2009, 05:25 PM)
we got lousy pm so of cos get lousy budget, more burden for the rakyat again, the proper way of getting money should be implementing the GST instead of this easy rich scheme from service charge of credit cards
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Basically Najis is asking us to spend wisely. I will cancel all my credit card!!! mad.gif

Boost economy this way?

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Oct 26 2009, 04:25 PM)
we got lousy pm so of cos get lousy budget, more burden for the rakyat again, the proper way of getting money should be implementing the GST instead of this easy rich scheme from service charge of credit cards
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If really gov implemented GST, I forsee more people rant about it. When GST is scheduled to be implemented, you will have all range of goods/foods price increase across.
It is worst that Rm50 service charge on credit card.

I don't see the Rm50 is a really big issue to rant about, yes, it is not pleasant to pay Rm50 for the credit card, but as compared to GST, it is trivia only.

I don't see why a RM50 service charge can be an issue to be classified as a 'burden' for people.

After all, a large portion of credit card is not active one.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 26 2009, 04:51 PM)
If really gov implemented GST, I forsee more people rant about it. When GST is scheduled to be implemented, you will have all range of goods/foods price increase across.
It is worst that Rm50 service charge on credit card.

I don't see the Rm50 is a really big issue to rant about, yes, it is not pleasant to pay Rm50 for the credit card, but as compared to GST, it is trivia only.

I don't see why a RM50 service charge can be an issue to be classified as a 'burden' for people.

After all, a large portion of credit card is not active one.
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to be exact, it's rm50 per card per year...

assume a gentleman...with a monthly salary of rm3500...owning 3 cards for different purposes/benefits.
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card 1) use to pay petrol/groceries to get points/rebates/discounts
card 2) use for autopay of his bills/insurance
card 3) emergency purpose

so...it is a burden for him to pay rm150 a year for a service tax....the amount that he never pay before....
as a rakyat, we also want to know, if let say we pay rm150 a year, where is it going to ?
For me, all taxation collected by government must be clarified to what usage they're going to use the income..
At least subsidized more merchants to use/rent cc terminals for credit card user convenience. Such as can use credit card in mamak stall or local groceries store. Give back convenience to the tax payer at least. Not just collect tax to their own pocket & masked behind "to promote prudent spending"....
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vmad.gif budget 2010, i heard many many billion
why no my benefit?
hope can reduce petrol , toll etc...this i got benefit .
all way heard reduce less , incease more at toll , petrol...
i susgest do goverment kindergarten i can save money .
i heard KL here one children kindergarten fees rm400up!!
if three children dont need study lo....

we paid roadtax ,why need paid toll again . roadtax for what???
how many car in malaysia ?? one years how many roadtax they get??
hope list out roadtax per years , toll how much they get ?how many years we need pay!!
10 years 20 years ???.........
all list out is best lah...dont heard what benefit we can get , but nothing we get!! mad.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 26 2009, 05:24 AM)
epalbee3,

1) I live in Klang.  I do not believe the cost of living is much lower than Seremban.

<<RM2000 is not enough for car and house,>>

2) Car and house are paid off.  And, usually, at retirement, the car and house had been paid off.

<<Ok, hang around with which group of people depends on which job you are in.>>

3) Who say you MUST hang around the same group of people after work??

<<however, sometimes there is no choice for that.. wink.gif>>

4) You ALWAYS have a choice.  Now, as too whether you exercise that choice is up to you.

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Perhaps most of the money that we spent to car, house, parents and food.

You don't have car and house payment, that's y very cheap.

well, it is a choice, but let's say you spent most of the time working, then when you go back, there is less chance to make new friends.

Now city people all busy.. that's y they take friends from nearest..

By the way, I work at KL.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 26 2009, 04:51 PM)
If really gov implemented GST, I forsee more people rant about it. When GST is scheduled to be implemented, you will have all range of goods/foods price increase across.
It is worst that Rm50 service charge on credit card.

I don't see the Rm50 is a really big issue to rant about, yes, it is not pleasant to pay Rm50 for the credit card, but as compared to GST, it is trivia only.

I don't see why a RM50 service charge can be an issue to be classified as a 'burden' for people.

After all, a large portion of credit card is not active one.
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If GST were to be implemented, the current price now (which is including tax) must be lowered first right? So new price + GST =about the same with current price. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Oct 26 2009, 11:57 PM)
If GST were to be implemented, the current price now (which is including tax) must be lowered first right? So new price + GST =about the same with current price. hmm.gif
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I do not have confident they will lower tax bracket to a reasonable amount in place of GST if it gets implemented.... heck they might not even reduce the tax bracket...
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Oct 27 2009, 12:05 AM)
I do not have confident they will lower tax bracket to a reasonable amount in place of GST if it gets implemented.... heck they might not even reduce the tax bracket...
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The reason is, now most people didn't notice that they are paying tax for almost everything. But when GST implemented, these people will suddenly realized how much tax the gomen take for every item they bought.
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Oct 26 2009, 09:25 AM)
src: RM3000 is poverty line
Now that's interesting. I thought there was a topic some time ago on an income of RM4000 or so being considered rich?

src: Star Online
That's what I meant by attracting and retaining expats and professionals. Well it's either they do something to make Iskandar really attractive, or they can forget about the whole project altogether.
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The special 15% income tax rate for knowledge workers residing and working in Iskandar Malaysia is definitely a step in the right direction to support the Iskandar Corridor.
With Iskandar’s proximity to Singapore, this incentive will certainly attract foreign knowledge workers working in Singapore and encourage the return of Malaysians from across the causeway.

Since Singapore’s highest individual income tax rate is 20%, you can see the magic of using 15% as a lure.

simply because of the 15% rate as attraction to welcome back those talents to work in malaysia?
malaysia neglect them in the first place which they lose hope in malaysia to pursue their career in overseas...
a smart people will generally think based from larger picture rather than just a small criteria that benefit them...
would u like to work in a country where majority of them working on a very slow pace?
if compared this country is lacking in infrastructures and facilites between those high income country...
plus high crime rate making many of us living uncomfortably in here and those corrupted politician...
and policy are subject to change from time to time due to our pm is famous to break his promise...
maybe a few years later there will be no more 15% tax rate for those who work in iskandar...

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I don't agree on taxing people who uses credit card.
There are people who are using it for emergency.
Definitely it's not helping people who are in cc debt.
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i think dis few days banks oredi headache coz of the cc thing...maybe they will hold a meeting with bnm ?? if implemented gst then we are all screwed coz we are oredi paying many taxes now...still wan to pay tax??? unless our gomen provided us a better healthcare better roads better public transportation ....but i think dis country wont change coz its the same as long time ago...
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Oct 26 2009, 11:57 PM)
If GST were to be implemented, the current price now (which is including tax) must be lowered first right? So new price + GST =about the same with current price. hmm.gif
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Currently, there are a handful of items/goods are not taxed, instead we are buying cheaper than its suppose to be due to subsidies, a few example would be sugar, flour etc.

Also when GST being introduced, it will prompt and give every reason for manufacturers/traders, goreceries stores etc to increase their price.

The issue will be like sugar up 10 cents per kg, and your cup of coffee also increase 10 cents <---- how oftern we heard this story then.

So it will be huge impact across, just like when petrol price being increased to Rm2.70, last time out.

At least for current situation, for those earn 2K+, you don't need to pay income tax, but if after GST being introduced time, even those earn below Rm800 (or none), also need to pay indirect tax in term of GST in every items they bought. So GST hurt more to those lower income group people.
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Oct 27 2009, 12:05 AM)
I do not have confident they will lower tax bracket to a reasonable amount in place of GST if it gets implemented.... heck they might not even reduce the tax bracket...
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I think GST is good as the person who buy pay the tax but it must be lower than the current service tax and provide exemption for certain type of goods and services which is deemed as neccesity and also might be charged at minimal rate.


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