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 Mountain Biking Heaven V12, Live to Ride, Ride to Live

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ooikl
post Nov 25 2009, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Nov 25 2009, 03:09 PM)
That is why I am telling u I cannot teach u coz I accident 2 times endoing last Sunday.

But, indirectly, u already asnwer your own question above.
Anyway, I noticed something... in biking... u cannot lazy. Mind and physical must be fit.

Mind fit, body not fit = cannot ride
Body fit, mind not fit = accident
Body not fit, mind not fit = disaster
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not sure how technical is the DH trail that you referring....
but basically for DH, there are few notes that need to be taken

1. lower the seat post if its really technical
2. don't sit on the saddle if its a technical downhill, stand up
3. layback - move your ass backwards, so that you weight is on the rear of the bike, and you will have better handling
4. layback + squad - in order to achieve this, u will need to lower your seatpost to the max if possible, or the saddle nose should NOT be higher that your stem, the layback and squad down, imagine the position that your ass is close to the rear tyre, i apply this on the very steep and technical dh
5. use rear brake more than front, front brake is for tapping purpose only, like touch and go
6. even u know u lost control and want to touch down, tap on the rear brake and let the bike slash away and let bike go, so u will sit on the ground
7. if your crank is 3 pcs chain ring, switch to the large ring, this is to avoid your leg poke into the large chain ring teeth if any accident happen, if your crank have bash guard, then you are can ignore
8. if no confident, push...... sometime slow speed will crash as well, as during steep dh without the speed you will fall

hope this will help smile.gif

This post has been edited by ooikl: Nov 25 2009, 03:34 PM
RayKazansky
post Nov 25 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 25 2009, 03:05 PM)
timmy...
attack position is the standing on pedal while downhill one...
i m scared to do that...so need help...

the other one...
is u know...while standing and DH-ing...
u shift the backside a bit back...
i oso dunno that thing...
takot endo la... sweat.gif
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You can do it, but you tend to put one leg higher than the other... next ride i bring rotan so that you level your legs and stand brows.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Nov 25 2009, 03:09 PM)
That is why I am telling u I cannot teach u coz I accident 2 times endoing last Sunday.

But, indirectly, u already asnwer your own question above.
Anyway, I noticed something... in biking... u cannot lazy. Mind and physical must be fit.

Mind fit, body not fit = cannot ride
Body fit, mind not fit = accident
Body not fit, mind not fit = disaster
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QUOTE(ooikl @ Nov 25 2009, 03:23 PM)
not sure how technical is the DH trail that you referring....
but basically for DH, there are few notes that need to be taken

1. lower the seat post if its really technical
2. don't see on the saddle if its a technical downhill, stand up
3. layback - move your ass backwards, so that you weight is on the rear of the bike, and you will have better handling
4. layback + squad - in order to achieve this, u will need to lower your seatpost to the max if possible, or the saddle nose should be higher that your stem, the layback and squad down, imagine the position that your ass is close to the rear tyre, i apply this on the very steep and technical dh
5. use rear brake more than front, front brake is for tapping purpose only, like touch and go
6. even u know u lost control and want to touch down, tap on the rear brake and let the bike slash away and let bike go, so u will sit on the ground
7. if your crank is 3 pcs chain ring, switch to the large ring, this is to avoid your leg poke into the large chain ring teeth if any accident happen, if your crank have bash guard, then you are can ignore
8. if no confident, push...... sometime slow speed will crash as well, as during steep dh without the speed you will fall

hope this will help smile.gif
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Thanks timmy and ooikl...
i think my questions are answered!
timmy...ur way of explaining very short and simple...
ez to understand! thumbup.gif

ooikl...
the tips are invaluable!
thx so much! rclxms.gif

now all i have to do is....
put all this into practice!


Added on November 25, 2009, 3:31 pm
QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Nov 25 2009, 03:27 PM)
You can do it, but you tend to put one leg higher than the other... next ride i bring rotan so that you level your legs and stand  brows.gif
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aye aye cikgu!
i sure go down faster....if u r chasing with a rotan!
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This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 25 2009, 03:31 PM
ooikl
post Nov 25 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 25 2009, 03:05 PM)
timmy...
attack position is the standing on pedal while downhill one...
i m scared to do that...so need help...

the other one...
is u know...while standing and DH-ing...
u shift the backside a bit back...
i oso dunno that thing...
takot endo la... sweat.gif
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if u have endo feel, means your body weight is not rear enough.... move your ass back more, sure u have better handling feel when your weight is on the rear while DH
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post Nov 25 2009, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(ooikl @ Nov 25 2009, 03:37 PM)
if u have endo feel, means your body weight is  not rear enough.... move your ass back more, sure u have better handling feel when your weight is on the rear while DH
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nice tips bro.. biggrin.gif
this is wat i fear most!
ill try it out... flex.gif
timothyy
post Nov 25 2009, 04:14 PM

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Sometimes, too lean back will give u wheelie also...
Then, ur front will be out of control easily.
Lagi mati. But usually, wheelie accident is less damage than endo accident.

I want to buy Evo Elbow And Knee Guard. Where can I get?
xandman
post Nov 25 2009, 04:16 PM

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after seeing a page on the new Fox knee guard...
i feel like i need one too!
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i dun wanna see how my knee caps look like!
hahahaha...

Evo pad is the new Fox pads issit timmy?
ooikl
post Nov 25 2009, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Nov 25 2009, 04:14 PM)
Sometimes, too lean back will give u wheelie also...
Then, ur front will be out of control easily.
Lagi mati. But usually, wheelie accident is less damage than endo accident.

I want to buy Evo Elbow And Knee Guard. Where can I get?
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if the trail is not that steep then no need to move to back so much lo....
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post Nov 25 2009, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 25 2009, 04:16 PM)
after seeing a page on the new Fox knee guard...
i feel like i need one too!
sweat.gif

i dun wanna see how my knee caps look like!
hahahaha...

Evo pad is the new Fox pads issit timmy?
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Evolution 661. He! He! He! Fox... better maintain at Garpu.
But I want the helmet... kekeke...

QUOTE(ooikl @ Nov 25 2009, 04:20 PM)
if the trail is not that steep then no need to move to back so much lo....
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When u are noob like me... how back is back... how front is front...
U know what I mean?


Anyway... latest PM from down south...
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groupset xt rm1500

4:21pmAh Mark
wa... u banyak jalan..

4:21pmXzalix
xt crank rm500
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post Nov 25 2009, 04:42 PM

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tongue.gif wah nice tips mr. ooi . i wanna go try it out this sunday tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 05:00 PM

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@xandman:
May I know what brand is you Thule-rear bike rack?
I'm interested. May I know your price and do you have pictures?
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post Nov 25 2009, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 25 2009, 03:05 PM)
timmy...
attack position is the standing on pedal while downhill one...
i m scared to do that...so need help...

the other one...
is u know...while standing and DH-ing...
u shift the backside a bit back...
i oso dunno that thing...
takot endo la... sweat.gif
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The wrong way
-put ur stomach on saddle n both leg point to back.. nod.gif
-bunny hop down..

Ok way
-lower the saddle
-both L/R pedal should same horizon. take note, which pedal at rear will cause over-steer to opposite side.
-light drop, at least stand on pedal with crotch 2-3cm from touching saddle
-big drop move crotch to back
-use rear brake more (norm will cause over-steer)
-may need tap both brake to slow down (skid mean tap too slow)
-U turn...

remote saddle is cool wink.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 05:54 PM

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i dont think that lowering the seat is better...
some of downhill trail got to cycle....
if u see all downhiller seat is not so low...
no need pad lo.....
some time downhill also need to steep forward to decrease any wheelie


Added on November 25, 2009, 5:55 pmuse or front brake easily...
dont so hard
if not endo


Added on November 25, 2009, 6:03 pmttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEgIlF3Qz4Q

This post has been edited by the brothers: Nov 25 2009, 06:03 PM
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post Nov 25 2009, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Nov 25 2009, 05:52 PM)
The wrong way
-put ur stomach on saddle n both leg point to back.. nod.gif
-bunny hop down..

Ok way
-lower the saddle
-both L/R pedal should same horizon. take note, which pedal at rear will cause over-steer to opposite side.
-light drop, at least stand on pedal with crotch 2-3cm from touching saddle
-big drop move crotch to back
-use rear brake more (norm will cause over-steer)-may need tap both brake to slow down (skid mean tap too slow)
-U turn...

remote saddle is cool wink.gif

use more front brake. front brake has more stopping power than the rear. but not to the extend u jam the front brake. 70/30

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QUOTE(the brothers @ Nov 25 2009, 05:54 PM)
i dont think that lowering the seat is better...
some of downhill trail got to cycle....
if u see all downhiller seat is not so low...
no need pad lo.....
some time downhill also need to steep forward to decrease any wheelie


Added on November 25, 2009, 5:55 pmuse or front brake easily...
dont so hard
if not endo


Added on November 25, 2009, 6:03 pmttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEgIlF3Qz4Q
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must listen to my sponsored rider. he is DH king biggrin.gif

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post Nov 25 2009, 06:33 PM

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still looking for k124 butterfly 2 and kona wah wah..

any1 seen these baby in town?
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post Nov 25 2009, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Nov 25 2009, 04:26 PM)
Evolution 661. He! He! He! Fox... better maintain at Garpu.
But I want the helmet... kekeke...
When u are noob like me... how back is back... how front is front...
U know what I mean?
Anyway... latest PM from down south...
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fuah. 1500 for xt group set.
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post Nov 25 2009, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Nov 25 2009, 04:26 PM)
Evolution 661. He! He! He! Fox... better maintain at Garpu.
But I want the helmet... kekeke...
When u are noob like me... how back is back... how front is front...
U know what I mean?
Anyway... latest PM from down south...
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timmy where can get the pads?
i want oso la.
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SALE SALE SALE!

Deore shifters = RM50
XCR = RM 200
Avid Juicy 3 = RM250

All Nego!


Added on November 25, 2009, 9:31 pm
QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Nov 25 2009, 05:00 PM)
@xandman:
May I know what brand is you Thule-rear bike rack?
I'm interested. May I know your price and do you have pictures?
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if the brand is Thule...i'll shut up already.
the brand is T-rackz.
Pics?
tarak.
Price? i bought it at 330. ur offer?

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 25 2009, 09:31 PM
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post Nov 25 2009, 10:07 PM

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a good thing to remember is to keep ur ass vertically above the crank no matter what situation. so when climbing uphill, move to the nose of the saddle. when going in a slight slope DH, move the butt towards the back of the saddle. when steep DH, move ass behind the saddle, above rear tire.

if u follow this basic guideline, ur weight distribution should be balanced enough. if slight slope DH u move ass above rear tire later the front becomes too light, hard to steer and front tire not much traction. likewise if climbing and ur weight position is too far back, can wheelie, or front tire wanders left and right.

if u want extra training i can help. just come to KDCF i teach u brows.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Nov 25 2009, 10:07 PM)
a good thing to remember is to keep ur ass vertically above the crank no matter what situation. so when climbing uphill, move to the nose of the saddle. when going in a slight slope DH, move the butt towards the back of the saddle. when steep DH, move ass behind the saddle, above rear tire.

if u follow this basic guideline, ur weight distribution should be balanced enough. if slight slope DH u move ass above rear tire later the front becomes too light, hard to steer and front tire not much traction. likewise if climbing and ur weight position is too far back, can wheelie, or front tire wanders left and right.

if u want extra training i can help. just come to KDCF i teach u brows.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 10:23 PM

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i guru at falling like a nangka nia. laugh.gif


tomorrow night nobody wanna ride? btw saturday still free. maybe going to kiara. sunday still not sure yet where to ride hmm.gif

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