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post Oct 21 2009, 12:00 AM, updated 16y ago

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Emm....actually what happen to flora damansara? Why is it going out at relatively cheap rate?

Is it bcos it is located near the place where orang asli live?

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post Oct 21 2009, 12:14 AM

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yeah im wondering tht as well.... any future developements in tht area... pretty spacious area as well!!!
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:15 AM

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isit because of poor public transport, not enough parking space and hard to find causes the price so low?
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:21 AM

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getting there a lot bumpy road. under highway etc

few low cost flats which all cars park outside
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:35 AM

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Fuh this takes the cake:

http://www.harakahdaily.net/index.php?opti...Itemid=99999999

Its in BM though.
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post Oct 21 2009, 02:08 AM

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why so many damansara name? are they really located at damansara? o just using the name to serve as high class
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post Oct 21 2009, 09:01 AM

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Shall take a drive to look at the place....
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:09 PM

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-the access is not good
-the density is very high
-its very near to LDP
-its very near to low cost
-unless something drastic changes the place, the properties wont be worthy.
-2 friends make a loss over the properties
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:09 PM

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The medium cost apartments (the last blocks) are spoilt by the low cost ones (the front ones).

The place is not well maintain and you will see all sorts of people including foreigners here. The management is in sad state. I heard the medium cost apartment even got its water supply cut for many times already.

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post Oct 21 2009, 03:14 PM

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YA YA
but now change new management better then b4,now under JMC.
got 24 security , daily n night they will checking..no water problem ..cool .
simple go everywhere .
all also got problem de lah. 1 u , SS2 no problem mei same lah....
here problem is develper, manangement problem b4.
best buy high-class house lo, pj here no 5k dont need buy landed house , u know TTDI 1 sty landed house how much ?RM4k


i think developer also problem .dont know how can said , my sister buy metro also many many problem.
rm 300,00 coridor light no standard ...after she see this , she urgent to sold out lieo.
no value.
parking also dont where can park , if want to go shop lot there...all like park at outside road.
if want buy something best go tesco lah , more parking.


Added on October 21, 2009, 3:24 pm
QUOTE(abyss8 @ Oct 21 2009, 12:15 AM)
isit because of poor public transport, not enough parking space and hard to find causes the price so low?
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where u can find high-class eazy for public tranport lie , KL transport alway poor one...
buy car park lo. dont want buy "mana ada" carpark.
here best then other place, dont need buy carpark also can park at outside .
some apartment if u park at outside , police come .......

ai ..u search other apartment many people want save money dont buy carpark also part at outside !

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post Oct 21 2009, 04:19 PM

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a friend staying there told me that it was built on top of the Bukit Lanjan orang asli cemetary. dunno if it's true or not. bad news for superstitious people...
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post Oct 22 2009, 01:06 AM

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To add to the above :

(1) Sewerage is poor, all the apartments I visited, the toilet smells even if it's clean.

(2) Walls are dirty. Imagine you every day have to push the lift button, and the lift button is dirty tongue.gif

(3) The lift is covered in graffiti, don't know how well maintained it is. I'd hate to be stuck in that lift if it breaks down.

(4) People are inconsiderate -- instead of throwing rubbish at the bin area, they leave it outside in the common area. So if you walk around you can see bags of rubbish on the corridor.

(5) Location is bad, it's quite isolated and I didn't see any streetlights on the access road, it must be really dark at night.

(6) If you're walking along the access road, be careful of strangers, it's pretty isolated, and there's some construction activity going on. There's one security guard at one of the construction sites near there that has "issues" tongue.gif

(7) There's a IWK sewage treatment plant (loji kumbahan) near there.

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post Sep 27 2010, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Oct 21 2009, 12:00 AM)
Is it bcos it is located near the place where orang asli live?
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Orang asli is never a problem, now its full of Negra & Indians, It's turning into a ghetto
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post Sep 27 2010, 10:54 PM

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sound like very terrible

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post Sep 28 2010, 09:33 AM

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the problem is JMC not strong. they cannot get the owners for to pay maintenance fees every month n no decent mgt. company wants to take up the job I heard there is a court case going on Flora still owed the previous mgt. co. rm400K+.
This place has got potential n its undervalued if its manage properly.
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post Sep 28 2010, 01:53 PM

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yea...this place problem with the previous management...lots of utang..now has form JMC a bit ok..
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post Sep 28 2010, 06:00 PM

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i got a friend have a unit at there... cry.gif

she want to sell off... how ar?
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(quicky @ Sep 28 2010, 01:53 PM)
yea...this place problem with the previous management...lots of utang..now has form JMC a bit ok..
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my frd told monthly maintenance is rm55. p/unit (800+sqft) still ppl. dun pay
way too low for current economic situation
no wonder so teruk
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(7upro @ Sep 28 2010, 06:00 PM)
i got a friend have a unit at there... cry.gif

she want to sell off... how ar?
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how much she want to sell offf ? if cheaper .. then i want ... if higher than purcashe price 10%.. dont want...
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post Sep 29 2010, 01:09 AM

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another place call damansara?
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post Sep 29 2010, 01:20 AM

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My sister have a unit there. For me, Block A and B is total disaster. The lift always broke down not to mention vandalism. The upper unit they said is quite ok but for me it is not a good place to live, the environment is bad. Try to go there during night, you will get what I mean.

Basically Block A and B are low cost apartment (1 bathroom + 3 rooms). The parking is free, but if you go there after office hour the chance for you to get a parking is very low unless you get a unit with parking.

Thats the reason why the rental is low.
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post Sep 29 2010, 10:30 AM

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Most of my frds who bot Flora moved n rented it out.
Try to sell but very susah, once buyer see the terrible condition(vandalosm/ littering/parking everywhere) they just shakehead. shakehead.gif
Unless all the owners cooperate, pay up all the arrears so there is enough funds for maintenance and get a competent company to manage it.
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post Sep 29 2010, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Sep 29 2010, 10:30 AM)
Most of my frds who bot Flora moved n rented it out.
Try to sell but very susah, once buyer see the terrible condition(vandalosm/ littering/parking everywhere) they just shakehead. shakehead.gif
Unless all the owners cooperate, pay up all the arrears so there is enough funds for maintenance and get a competent company to manage it.
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The management really need to do something to solve this problem. It is like no maintenance acts at all.
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post Sep 29 2010, 10:11 PM

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no one in the right mind wld wanna take up a job like this. they still owed the previous mgt. 400K+ in arrears.
the JMC need to enforce all the owners to pay up.

Jasmine tower SS2 was like that few yrs ago. Now they clean up their act and price also went up by more than 100K p/unit.
Last time 200+ also no one want...
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heheh ... ask ujr fren offer me rm40k for the unit
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post Sep 30 2010, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Sep 29 2010, 10:11 PM)
no one in the right mind wld wanna take up a job like this. they still owed the previous mgt. 400K+ in arrears.
the JMC need to enforce all the owners to pay up.

Jasmine tower SS2 was like that few yrs ago. Now they clean up their act and price also went up by more than 100K p/unit.
Last time 200+ also no one want...
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Yeah, I believe if they solve the maintenance problem and maintain it well the price will hike up. But still there is too much car and not enough parking sweat.gif


QUOTE(cutealex @ Sep 29 2010, 10:20 PM)
heheh ... ask ujr fren offer me rm40k for the unit
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Haha..40k+ is starting price when they start to buy. I don't think they will sell without a bit of profit smile.gif
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post Sep 30 2010, 10:37 AM

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Ya.. i know from about RM40k++ ... that why my offer is here lohh..
depend the owner want to sell or not lor,.. u know lah... seems the condition really poor ....
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post Sep 30 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Sep 30 2010, 10:37 AM)
Ya.. i know from about RM40k++ ... that why my offer is here lohh..
depend the owner want to sell or not lor,.. u know lah... seems the condition really poor ....
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yeah.they maybe considering it since if rent out also can get max rm500 only sweat.gif
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post Sep 30 2010, 05:55 PM

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my friend that unit she buy at 70k + 10k renovation + 10k furnish...
she now want to sell at 98k... almost break even.... how do u think?
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this one is the low cost one rite?
the med.cost blk. (behind) is 110-120K.
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post Sep 30 2010, 11:32 PM

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is there onli one access road to flora damansara? which is the one fr ldp?
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post Oct 1 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Sep 30 2010, 10:52 PM)
this one is the low cost one rite?
the med.cost blk. (behind)  is 110-120K.
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Ya is low cost... she buy at a high side....


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QUOTE(leongal @ Oct 1 2010, 12:32 AM)
is there onli one access road to flora damansara? which is the one fr ldp?
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Ya... one access to flora damansara. LDP thourgh the PJ Trade centre

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post Oct 1 2010, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Sep 30 2010, 11:32 PM)
is there onli one access road to flora damansara? which is the one fr ldp?
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Yeah one through Damansara Perdana and another one through Kg Sg. Penchala. But the road through Kg Sg Penchala are a bit bumpy. Previous the road to Flora Damansara was very bad. A lot of holes due to lorry in and out. Now better already.
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Hi guys, hows the Flora Damansara units (not the low cost wan) now?hows the condition now? still as bad as last time ar?
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check the post date man !
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post Oct 5 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(pf5618 @ Oct 4 2010, 07:32 PM)
Hi guys, hows the Flora Damansara units (not the low cost wan) now?hows the condition now? still as bad as last time ar?
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go see 4 urself man...
everybody can go in
security got but all tidur zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Oct 5 2010, 09:28 AM)
go see 4 urself man...
everybody can go in
security got but all tidur zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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if like that ... then why need security ? mean they just take $$ but ZzzzZZZz.. open gate for car to get in...
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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Oct 5 2010, 09:28 AM)
go see 4 urself man...
everybody can go in
security got but all tidur zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Oct 5 2010, 09:36 AM)
if like that ... then why need security ? mean they just take $$ but ZzzzZZZz.. open gate for car to get in...
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The gate is always open sweat.gif
First time I go there there was no security also. The car can freely go in and out. And I don't think they have any car sticker or even a touch card system?
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last time i go there, got security guard
tat indian guy is undernourised, easily 65+ yrs O (past expiry date by 10 yrs) snoZZzzzziiing away.
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post Oct 6 2010, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Oct 5 2010, 09:12 PM)
last time i go there, got security guard
tat indian guy is undernourised, easily 65+ yrs O (past expiry date by 10 yrs) snoZZzzzziiing away.
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last week when i go there, no guard ask me or stop me.
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QUOTE(7upro @ Oct 6 2010, 10:07 AM)
last week when i go there, no guard ask me or stop me.
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So far I never see any guard guarding the entrance.
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post Oct 21 2010, 11:29 AM

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I've been renting a place there for slightly over a year. Despite the lack of facilities and poor management, I am content with the apartment for the price that I am paying. :-)

I am thinking of buying a medium cost unit there at a price not more than RM100k for me to stay.

:-P

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med.cost launching price also - 110K, carpark another 10K
now going rate is 130K+

lowcost is 70K now

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Quite a number of them are selling med cost from 100k
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due to the poor conditions, locality, etc
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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Oct 22 2010, 01:23 PM)
Quite a number of them are selling med cost from 100k
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due to the poor conditions, locality, etc
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QUOTE(Fei Kei @ Oct 22 2010, 02:58 PM)
GoodlucK wink.gif
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managed to get one for 100k 850sq ft with car park
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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Oct 22 2010, 11:05 PM)
Thx
managed to get one for 100k 850sq ft with car park
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Have things improved there now? Heard there were frequent cuts to water & power b4.
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Not sure about the other blocks, but for block E power cuts reduced significantly if not none so far.

I've experienced 2 water cuts but it happened while I was asleep. So, no idea why.

But I do have to say that the built quality of the place is not up to par with other places built by reputable developers.


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sorry to bring up the old thread.

But I am considering to get an unit at Flora for own stay, due to it's low price of course. I know everybody might ask me to stay away from it, but I have my own problem, I want to stay somewhere not too far away from PJ and this is what I can afford at the moment.

Any owner/tenant who still stay there CURRENTLY? How's the situation/condition? Still got water cut, power cut? Safety wise? I know it's a medium/low cost apt, really alot of african/foreign worker there? Road to Flora still as bad as last time? bumpy?

Appreciate your feedback notworthy.gif
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Hi creammilk, I round the place last Sunday... The place looks more like a flat to me but the road leads to Flora was ok... I saw a lot of foreign workers(ladies) with their luggage bags at the bus stop and was not sure what were there waiting for... The view should be nice from the building as it is on top of the hills... smile.gif
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Hi creammilk, check with banker how much is the bank valuation currently, if not mistaken, about 100k for medium flat, if subsale price asking 130k then u need to fork out about 50k including 30k discrepancy, legal fee and stamping and other incidental, is still a huge outlay I think.
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QUOTE(SG hardcore @ Apr 8 2011, 09:53 AM)
Hi creammilk, check with banker how much is the bank valuation currently, if not mistaken, about 100k for medium flat, if subsale price asking 130k then u need to fork out about 50k including 30k discrepancy, legal fee and stamping and other incidental, is still a huge outlay I think.
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But that place will have appreciation in long term... cause the land between metropolitan and flora is being developed into office buildings and complexes... smile.gif
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I think lots of properties in Damansara Perdana incl Flora started out with lots of management problems. The problem was the developer, MKLand. Lots of shenanigans going on because the companies they created to run these properties were managing them with the interests of the developer in mind rather than those of the residents. I think things will turn around once the JMC has been given a chance to clean up the mess left behind by the previous building management. But then again, this depends on how good the JMC is.
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thanks for the feedback smile.gif
went through a lot of blog/website, it really looks like a flat...

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QUOTE(CreamMilk @ Apr 8 2011, 09:11 AM)
sorry to bring up the old thread.

But I am considering to get an unit at Flora for own stay, due to it's low price of course. I know everybody might ask me to stay away from it, but I have my own problem, I want to stay somewhere not too far away from PJ and this is what I can afford at the moment.

Any owner/tenant who still stay there CURRENTLY? How's the situation/condition? Still got water cut, power cut? Safety wise? I know it's a medium/low cost apt, really alot of african/foreign worker there? Road to Flora still as bad as last time? bumpy? 

Appreciate your feedback  notworthy.gif
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In my opinion, Block A and B might look like a flat because both are low cost apartment and the others is medium cost. I think the medium cost blocks are ok to live in.
I have a sister who own one unit there in Block B and frankly I don't like the environment there. Not sure about the electricity and water cut, will ask my sister for an update.

The road to Flora is way better than before. They used to be very bumpy and holes everywhere.
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QUOTE(PangurBan @ Apr 8 2011, 10:10 AM)
I think lots of properties in Damansara Perdana incl Flora started out with lots of management problems.  The problem was the developer, MKLand.  Lots of shenanigans going on because the companies they created to run these properties were managing them with the interests of the developer in mind rather than those of the residents.  I think things will turn around once the JMC has been given a chance to clean up the mess left behind by the previous building management.  But then again, this depends on how good the JMC is.
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I am staying in Perdana Exclusive and the management is superb... They are cleaning up the mess by MK now... I am happy with it and things will slowly improved.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yeowa @ Apr 8 2011, 10:27 AM)
I am staying in Perdana Exclusive and the management is superb... They are cleaning up the mess by MK now... I am happy with it and things will slowly improved.. smile.gif
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Yes I know. I have a unit there. I also know a bit about the awful mess MK left behind.
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i'm planning to buy an apartment there, anyone knows which medium cost block is the newest and better in terms of layout, facilities and tenants?
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QUOTE(RayLShots @ Jun 23 2011, 04:22 PM)
i'm planning to buy an apartment there, anyone knows which medium cost block is the newest and better in terms of layout, facilities and tenants?
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Medium cost block are Block E,F and H..facilities?simple..24 hours guard (not so good,not gated),empty swimming pool (cannot be use nmore) and crowded..but for me, since it's the most cheapest for it's area..I still prefer this..lol...


Added on October 18, 2011, 8:57 pmI think flora damansara will improve soon..with a lots of new development surround it..

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has the prices gone up now?
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Someone told me that the apt price in FD has been increased.
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The Block F and H are cleaner. The main selling point are the location and view from high floor. Been there a few time, have a budget of 140K to 180K, still looking.
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my frd unit balcony facing the lake damm scenic.
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I am looking for my first investment apartment and Flora Damansara is one of my target.Last weekend have been there to see the place.Road entrance a little bit messed up due to lorries in and out to site in that area.No security at all, anybody can enter easily but inside got a lot of shop at ground floor of the blocks.

When i google, got few issues regarding this property and now i'm deeply thinking whether to go ahead or back off.
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any recommendation on which block is better? what floor do u have to be to get the scenic lake view?
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But now not very scenic i guess..saw some construction related activites at the lake.
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Anybody staying there currently? cause I was thinking of living there but... I'm really not sure of how safe the place is.
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QUOTE(lilac @ Feb 21 2012, 11:00 PM)
Anybody staying there currently? cause I was thinking of living there but... I'm really not sure of how safe the place is.
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I have a unit in block H, my son is staying there. He work in Subang and sometime in Sungai Besi, he like the place. It is quite safe with 'Jaga' do their round on every floor a few times a day and CCTV in all five of the lifts and lobby too.

I have asked a few residents, 'Jaga' and the cleaning lady about the place before buying a unit there. According to the 'Jaga', break-in sometime do happen but only in lower floor (did not ask about other block cos only interested in Block F & H). This block is cleaner and much peaceful compare to other blocks.

My neighbor is a lovely educated retired couple from Perak, who just want to stay a few days (empty unit of their daughter). That was two or three years ago, they are still staying there. They love the hill view and the cool and windy air.

My unit is facing the LDP and Bukit Lanjan. Morning is bright but not very hot and at night the view is just great ( KLCC, Damansara town and Firework during festive season). At this moment there is no need of the aircon as most of the time it is quite windy and cooling especially at night. My son rented out two of the smaller rooms for Rm400 and Rm300. He got tenants for both of the rooms within a month.

My unit comes with a covered parking lot. Though parking lot is limited but I always manage to park my car at the gust parking lot whenever I was there. Do not simply park your car or else the 'jaga' will clamp the car! The JMC is getting better at managing the place. They take action at those who did not pay their fee or water bill accordingly.

I believe with the current JMC, the place will get better. Hopefully by year end the swimming pool and others facilities are repaired and can be enjoyed by all the resident. Hope this is helpful.

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QUOTE(pekanmy @ Feb 24 2012, 01:54 PM)
I have a unit in block H, my son is staying there. He work in Subang and sometime in Sungai Besi, he like the place. It is quite safe with 'Jaga' do their round on every floor a few times a day and CCTV in all five of the lifts and lobby too.

I have asked a few residents, 'Jaga' and the cleaning lady about the place before buying a unit there. According to the 'Jaga', break-in sometime do happen but only in lower floor (did not ask about other block cos only interested in Block F & H). This block is cleaner and much peaceful compare to other blocks.

My neighbor is a lovely educated retired couple from Perak, who just want to stay a few days (empty unit of their daughter). That was two or three years ago, they are still staying there. They love the hill view and the cool and windy air.

My unit is facing the LDP and Bukit Lanjan. Morning is bright but not very hot and at night the view is just great ( KLCC, Damansara town and Firework during festive season). At this moment there is no need of the aircon as most of the time it is quite windy and cooling especially at night. My son rented out two of the smaller rooms for Rm400 and Rm300. He got tenants for both of the rooms within a month.

My unit comes with a covered parking lot. Though parking lot is limited but I always manage to park my car at the gust parking lot whenever I was there. Do not simply park your car or else the 'jaga' will clamp the car! The JMC is getting better at managing the place. They take action at those who did not pay their fee or water bill accordingly.

I believe with the current JMC, the place will get better. Hopefully by year end the swimming pool and others facilities are repaired and can be enjoyed by all the resident. Hope this is helpful.
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Thanks! That helped a lot! I was also wondering I heard the place gets a lil doggy at night? Is it true? I've only been there during the day.
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QUOTE(lilac @ Feb 26 2012, 07:04 PM)
Thanks! That helped a lot! I was also wondering I heard the place gets a lil doggy at night? Is it true? I've only been there during the day.
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You are welcome. Why don't you go there at night, maybe a few nights for dinner or supper ? smile.gif

There are a few makan shops (mamak & malay), 7 eleven, a few sundry shops and mini market, a few dobi, hardware store, workshop, car wash, clinic, unisex saloon, electrical repair shop, ......
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QUOTE(lilac @ Feb 21 2012, 11:00 PM)
Anybody staying there currently? cause I was thinking of living there but... I'm really not sure of how safe the place is.
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Better get unit facing hill and have car park... if facing block E, pukul 3 pagi ada orang baling mercun on festival season or in fasting month...kena ada parking because hard to get open parking...renovate your house to put small water tank( like old apartment/flat/condo )...

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QUOTE(poklang @ Feb 27 2012, 09:48 AM)
Better get unit facing hill and have car park... if facing block E, pukul 3 pagi ada orang baling mercun  on festival season or in fasting month...kena ada parking because hard to get open parking...renovate your house to put small water tank( like old apartment/flat/condo )...
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Hi. Can you share how to renovate this and the cost? Thanks.
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Why need to put small tank? Always face water supply disruption?
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Why need to put small tank? Always face water supply disruption?
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because management always cut supply?
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because management always cut supply?
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As i said, the management will clamp the water meter only of those did not pay their water bill. My son is staying at the top most floor and never experience any water shortage yet.

As for installing extra water tank, I think it is a good idea. But it will be even better if you add a booster pump. If DIY, it will cost less than Rm650. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jeffW @ Jan 6 2012, 12:46 AM)
my frd unit balcony facing the lake damm scenic.
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the paradise view.
how much his house costed?
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What you guys think of the future of Flora Damansara? Will it worth to invest here?
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QUOTE(richsense @ Mar 2 2012, 11:45 PM)
What you guys think of the future of Flora Damansara? Will it worth to invest here?
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Bought a unit at Block H a few months ago. Rent out two of the smaller room for RM700. Saw a few advertisements in iproperty and mudah today, the price now up by average of 5% to 10% ( for high floor unit in block H).


Gain : Return of investment +5%, can occupied the master bedroom for less than RM300 (just pay for electric, water, unifi & maintenance fee) and appreciation of property (10% per year? blush.gif )


Lose : ............. still thinking hmm.gif

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Read somewhere in the other forum stated that construction is going on next to Flora Damansara. The same developer of Empire Shopping mall in subang going to build a condo there. Is that true?
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QUOTE(richsense @ Mar 3 2012, 11:23 AM)
Read somewhere in the other forum stated that construction is going on next to Flora Damansara. The same developer of Empire Shopping mall in subang going to build a condo there. Is that true?
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Yes, but not 'a' condo but two integrated development cool2.gif. Less than 2 km down the road from Flora is Empire Damansara and across the LDP is the Empire City. Both construction are ongoing and targeted to be delivered by 2013 onwards. The price is >Rm500 psf shocking.gif

Please go here for more info- http://www.meh.com.my/empire_city/about.html
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Well for me, the condition at this apartment is messy and dirty because of the too many units to manage. Despite the environment you look at location wise i think is a good investment prop as damansara perdana is a uprising township with empire city on the way.

I have a unit here want to let go : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2251265 .

Bumi : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2239035

Do let me know if anyone interested. Thanks. biggrin.gif
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Well for me, the condition at this apartment is messy and dirty because of the too many units to manage. Despite the environment you look at location wise i think is a good investment prop as damansara perdana is a uprising township with empire city on the way.
I fully agree with you about the sad condition of this apartment. That is why the price of the units did not appreciate much since launching in 2003?? This was due mainly to the management at that time which did not do a good job in collecting the management fee. So, water supply being cut, no proper maintenance, poor security and a lot other problems.

As a result, the owners and tenants started to move out and the price started to drop. This invited foreigners (the trouble maker one) and Illegal immigrants. Low rental invite low civic-minded tenant. (this is just my general view only and not all foreigners or illegal immigrants are bad)

But since early last year, new Joint Management Committee (JMC) which mostly made up by the owners/tenants. Things started to change and the place is getting better. And the price is going up and so is the rental.

As for too many units, the advantage is more money to collect but only a small area to maintain. This is my view on block H only.
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Regarding block H,

How is the parking situation? Any basement car park, always full?

Any crimes - robbery, break in, drug addicts?

Building structure? Thick walls? Since there is more construction starting, is there risk of something like highland towers happening?

Cos I heard that MKLand properties are badly built. Armanee has lots of cracks and leaks and a few more of their developments are problematic.
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I've viewed quite a number of units however I'm still pondering on my purchase. This will be my first property (the only one which I can see being affordable in PJ area) and I'm very concerned about the safety of the area for ladies.

I see a lot of foreigners in the areas and whenever I ask around regarding this apartment I get "Doggey place" or "A lot of Africans" and have yet to come across any positive reviews of this place till I came here.

I've been there multiple times and I must say the main attraction for me is to BE IN the apartment to enjoy the view. The walkway, lifts and the surroundings do not give me much security.

I absolutely love the view from this place, but my main concern is the residence.

1) Do you think this place would be safe for a lady to stay?
Security is my main concern here.
2) Do you think the status of this place will improve?
As for the maintainance (The lift sometimes does get terrifying), the people messing up all the clean walls,& etc. Will these all improve?
3) Will the price go up?
Hopefully with the price bumping up, better residence would gradually move in.

I'm truly hoping he price of this place to go up as high end development seems to be popping on both sides of Flora Damansara. I heard that developers are making banglows at the pond beside Block H as well.

I'm hoping if it's true, and as prices gradually go up, the place would buck up as well. At the current moment I'm still pondering deeply my first purchase yet I'm very tempted to just make a move.

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QUOTE(meat @ Mar 4 2012, 03:36 PM)
Regarding block H,

How is the parking situation? Any basement car park, always full?

Any crimes - robbery, break in, drug addicts?

Building structure? Thick walls? Since there is more construction starting, is there risk of something like highland towers happening?

Cos I heard that MKLand properties are badly built. Armanee has lots of cracks and leaks and a few more of their developments are problematic.
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Parking - Multi storey car park of more than 15 parking bay with lift but some have to walk a bit. It look like a basement car park but actually you can drive in from the lowest floor at the foot of the hill. Most of the tenant don't park there because you have to drive round and round to every level. But I think it is because there are still a lot of guest parking lots. My neighbor never park on his lot for more than 2 years tongue.gif . You can rent the parking lot for RM100 per month.

Crime - Break in sometime happen but mostly on the lower floor. Never saw drug addict or any sign of their activities(do not mean there are none).

Building Structure - The foundation must be on rock surface as the hill is rock type, the hill is not like highland towers. No construction on the hill at the back of block H. Standard of construction is not great but acceptable. There is a cracks on the front wall in my unit, I believe this is cause by the front door (very heavy fireproof door) slamming during windy day. Will install hydraulic door closer soon.

Go here for more; http://damansaraperdana.blogspot.com/2007/...-damansara.html


Note: I am no expert but I did a couple construction before. This is just my opinion only.


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QUOTE(lilac @ Mar 4 2012, 05:37 PM)
I've viewed quite a number of units however I'm still pondering on my purchase. This will be my first property (the only one which I can see being affordable in PJ area) and I'm very concerned about the safety of the area for ladies.

I see a lot of foreigners in the areas and whenever I ask around regarding this apartment I get "Doggey  place" or "A lot of Africans" and have yet to come across any positive reviews of this place till I came here.

I've been there multiple times and I must say the main attraction for me is to BE IN the apartment to enjoy the view. The walkway, lifts and the surroundings do not give me much security.

I absolutely love the view from this place, but my main concern is the residence.

1) Do you think this place would be safe for a lady to stay?
Security is my main concern here.
2) Do you think the status of this place will improve?
As for the maintainance (The lift sometimes does get terrifying), the people messing up all the clean walls,&  etc. Will these all improve?
3) Will the price go up?
Hopefully with the price bumping up, better residence would gradually move in.

I'm truly hoping he price of this place to go up as high end development seems to be popping on both sides of Flora Damansara. I heard that developers are making banglows at the pond beside Block H as well.

I'm hoping if it's true, and as prices gradually go up, the place would buck up as well. At the current moment I'm still pondering deeply my first purchase yet I'm very tempted to just make a move.
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Frankly speaking, I would not allow my daughter to stay there alone, Not Now. But there was a young lady wanted to rent a room in my unit. blush.gif

But I do believe the price will go up (200K by year end for good units in block H, mine included. tongue.gif )

The place will improve. thumbup.gif

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Any non agents renting out units at Flora Damansara?
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My unit at Block H, Yes. Full speed
Others, Pls check with Unifi.
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This the feedback's from my client who wanted to buy the units :

1. Dirty
2. Less- Chinese (Most my buyers are chinese)
3. Too crowded
4. As like old prison (from outside the corridor as is dark, light not working on most of the corridor.

The good stuffs they said :

1. Cheap
2. Convenience location
3. Nice view, windy
4. Inside unit quite spacious

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So, its fair? But i still thinking its cheap for this location.
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I want rent out my unit at RM1k. Interested. thumbup.gif
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I want rent out my unit at RM1k. Interested.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Blues03 @ Aug 7 2011, 08:25 AM)
Medium cost block are Block E,F and H..facilities?simple..24 hours guard (not so good,not gated),empty swimming pool (cannot be use nmore) and crowded..but for me, since it's the most cheapest for it's area..I still prefer this..lol...


Added on October 18, 2011, 8:57 pmI think flora damansara will improve soon..with a lots of new development surround it..
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yes, rental is increase already. later will apply access card to entry the medium cost apt.
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QUOTE(jeffW @ Jan 6 2012, 12:46 AM)
my frd unit balcony facing the lake damm scenic.
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hi chief. which unit are this?
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yes, rental is increase already. later will apply access card to entry the medium cost apt.
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when?
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I'll be purchasing a corner unit in Block F soon. Any feedback on that block?
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I'll be purchasing a corner unit in Block F soon. Any feedback on that block?
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https://www.facebook.com/floradamansara

u may try ask at their fb page.. mayb someone from there will reply you.. ^^
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How much is the average rental here?
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The rent for 850sq.ft unit is between RM700 to RM1200.
My unit in Block H is RM1,100

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QUOTE(lilac @ Mar 4 2012, 05:37 PM)
I've viewed quite a number of units however I'm still pondering on my purchase. This will be my first property (the only one which I can see being affordable in PJ area) and I'm very concerned about the safety of the area for ladies.

I see a lot of foreigners in the areas and whenever I ask around regarding this apartment I get "Doggey  place" or "A lot of Africans" and have yet to come across any positive reviews of this place till I came here.

I've been there multiple times and I must say the main attraction for me is to BE IN the apartment to enjoy the view. The walkway, lifts and the surroundings do not give me much security.

I absolutely love the view from this place, but my main concern is the residence.

1) Do you think this place would be safe for a lady to stay?
Security is my main concern here.
2) Do you think the status of this place will improve?
As for the maintainance (The lift sometimes does get terrifying), the people messing up all the clean walls,&  etc. Will these all improve?
3) Will the price go up?
Hopefully with the price bumping up, better residence would gradually move in.

I'm truly hoping he price of this place to go up as high end development seems to be popping on both sides of Flora Damansara. I heard that developers are making banglows at the pond beside Block H as well.

I'm hoping if it's true, and as prices gradually go up, the place would buck up as well. At the current moment I'm still pondering deeply my first purchase yet I'm very tempted to just make a move.
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I think until the africans & foreigner being get rid of the problem still exists, this is from my bottom heart. They are the reason why the place become low class. The security is not good, as much improvements has been made unfortunately. I dont think if there's africans, then it is safe, especially for woman. This is a very very understood matter. As much as I dont want to discriminate, yes africans are one of the problems makers.

the view might be nice(dont think it is as nice though), but security is more important. and if the surroundings is dirty, dont hope that this property will go up, honestly. If now, someone sells at rm160K, and if there is someone buys it, that person must be an idiot.


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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ Mar 26 2012, 02:51 PM)
This the feedback's from my client who wanted to buy the units :

1. Dirty                                                            - dirty & messy, very much like a place where indons & bangladesh ppl live, and Im dead serious.
2. Less- Chinese (Most my buyers are chinese)  - unfortunately true, less chinese stay here.
3. Too crowded                                                - true
4. As like old prison (from outside the corridor as is dark, light not working on most of the corridor.  - security is a big issue here. this point is not easily
                                                                                                                                                  seen until the person stays here.

The good stuffs they said :

1. Cheap                                - they must be mad.
2. Convenience location          - is there any public transport ?
3. Nice view, windy                  - agree
4. Inside unit quite spacious    - i dont think so. it "looks" spacious because it's arrangement is "long"

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QUOTE(lynforum @ May 15 2012, 01:50 AM)
in iprop really got ad 170-220k -)
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anyone can put rm300K also. of course you can put. But whether a person know how to see the worthiness of this property, then they will know even putting rm160K itself is indeed already overpriced. im saying something very honest. as for the nearby development, until it comes up as plan, then only see the price, otherwise, "news" will stay as "news".......
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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 15 2012, 01:53 AM)
anyone can put rm300K also. of course you can put. But whether a person know how to see the worthiness of this property, then they will know even putting rm160K itself is indeed already overpriced. im saying something very honest. as for the nearby development, until it comes up as plan, then only see the price, otherwise, "news" will stay as "news".......
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Hi MrChipsley,
Since you are knowledgeable and honest person, I hope you can enlighten us about the 'true' value of this place namely block E,F and H. Thanks.


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QUOTE(pekanmy @ May 16 2012, 11:13 AM)
Hi MrChipsley,
Since you are knowledgeable and honest person, I hope you can enlighten us about the 'true' value of this place namely block E,F and H. Thanks.
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actually, you can always go to get the value from property valuer. you'll be shock at how high property owners like to put at their property. that's everyone, do your due investigations before buy a property, especially in an area where security is an issue and basic neccessity always got interruption.
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QUOTE(Dern @ May 16 2012, 11:27 AM)
actually, you can always go to get the value from property valuer. you'll be shock at how high property owners like to put at their property. that's everyone, do your due investigations before buy a property, especially in an area where security is an issue and basic neccessity always got interruption.
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I paid a Valuer to value my house for a bank loan and they value it at RM380k. If I were to put up my house for sale for just RM500k, it will be sold the next day. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(pekanmy @ May 16 2012, 11:57 AM)
I paid a Valuer to value my house for a bank loan and they value it at RM380k. If I were to put up my house for sale for just RM500k, it will be sold the next day. rclxub.gif
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dont quite get you actually....what's your point ? how can you compare "your house" with this flora damansara ? unless you wish to have your house the same situation like gflora damansara, then im very sure you will see if anyone buys the next day if you put rm500K wink.gif

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The rent for 850sq.ft unit is between RM700 to RM1200.
My unit in Block H is RM1,100
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Look like I need to find out more on this flora damansara.


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mr chipsley, to be very frank with you, describing this all in a forum here wont help. The purchasers MUST GO TO THE LOCATION, then only they can relate to you. otherwise, people are being blinded by the "empire project", figure of rental that are being pluck from nowhere, this area is a classy place....

until people see it for themselves, people will be sceptical of what you say smile.gif because of human greed, they choose to believe the hallucination....
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 16 2012, 04:14 PM)
mr chipsley, to be very frank with you, describing this all in a forum here wont help. The purchasers MUST GO TO THE LOCATION, then only they can relate to you. otherwise, people are being blinded by the "empire project", figure of rental that are being pluck from nowhere, this area is a classy place....

until people see it for themselves, people will be sceptical of what you say smile.gif because of human greed, they choose to believe the hallucination....
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I think the thing we were highlighting here is that the place is far from ideal at its current state. That being said, the property is probably already at its all time low and like they say once you reach rock bottom you just can't sink any further. Not saying that it would not or could not, but chances are low.

I believe the good news for investors here is that chances for the property to lose what’s left of its value would be low as compared to what it could grow. This was one of the reasons why most of us decided to invest in Flora Damansara.

Honestly, most Propcritiques would condemn this place to hell, however the fact that people still stay there and units are easily rented out is a good sign that maybe Flora Damansara could be slowly but gradually climbing back up from its rock bottom.

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QUOTE(lilac @ May 16 2012, 04:27 PM)
I think the thing we were highlighting here is that the place is far from ideal at its current state. That being said, the property is probably already at its all time low and like they say once you reach rock bottom you just can't sink any further. Not saying that it would not or could not, but chances are low.

I believe the good news for investors here is that chances for the property to lose what’s left of its value would be low as compared to what it could grow. This was one of the reasons why most of us decided to invest in Flora Damansara.

Honestly, most Propcritiques would condemn this place to hell, however the fact that people still stay there and units are easily rented out is a good sign that maybe Flora Damansara could be slowly but gradually climbing back up from its rock bottom.
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to be very honest with you, i agree : That being said, the property is probably already at its all time low and

BUT, i simply dont agree on the price. they arent reflecting what you've said.

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QUOTE(pekanmy @ May 14 2012, 01:44 PM)
The rent for 850sq.ft unit is between RM700 to RM1200.
My unit in Block H is RM1,100
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What kind of furnishing you do ?

My one also Block H renting at RM900 basic. Haven't find the right tenant yet. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 15 2012, 01:43 AM)
I think until the africans & foreigner being get rid of the problem still exists, this is from my bottom heart. They are the reason why the place become low class. The security is not good, as much improvements has been made unfortunately. I dont think if there's africans, then it is safe, especially for woman. This is a very very understood matter. As much as I dont want to discriminate, yes africans are one of the problems makers.

the view might be nice(dont think it is as nice though), but security is more important. and if the surroundings is dirty, dont hope that this property will go up, honestly. If now, someone sells at rm160K, and if there is someone buys it, that person must be an idiot.


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Dude, not everyone perception same like yours.

You got to look all aspect. If you look at locality is indeed a selling point here.

If you dislike the place, keep it yourself. Don't spoil the market.


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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 16 2012, 04:38 PM)
to be very honest with you, i agree : That being said, the property is probably already at its all time low and

BUT, i simply dont agree on the price. they arent reflecting what you've said.
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Than do enlighten us how we should agree on the price.

You think it should be RM100K ? hmm.gif

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Dude, not everyone perception same like yours.

You got to look all aspect. If you look at locality is indeed a selling point here.

If you dislike the place, keep it yourself. Don't spoil the market.

dude,not v are spoiling d market ok? v r helping ppl so that they wont fall into big hole!

Flora is a place to avoid 110%. Location good so what? Check out the niggers there then only open ur silly mouth!

At best i think even empty unit block h max is 130k. Those talk 160k all big bullshit. d oni bank that will give market value of 160k is his father's bank. period
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 16 2012, 05:55 PM)
Dude, not everyone perception same like yours.

You got to look all aspect. If you look at locality is indeed a selling point here.

If you dislike the place, keep it yourself. Don't spoil the market.

dude,not v are spoiling d market ok? v r helping ppl so that they wont fall into big hole!

Flora is a place to avoid 110%. Location good so what?  Check out the niggers there then only open ur silly mouth!

At best i think even empty unit block h max is 130k.  Those talk 160k all big bullshit.  d oni bank that will give market value of 160k is his father's bank. period
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 04:08 AM)
What kind of furnishing you do ?

My one also Block H renting at RM900 basic. Haven't find the right tenant yet.  hmm.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 5:10 pm

Dude, not everyone perception same like yours.

You got to look all aspect. If you look at locality is indeed a selling point here.

If you dislike the place, keep it yourself. Don't spoil the market.


Added on May 16, 2012, 5:13 pm

Than do enlighten us how we should agree on the price.

You think it should be RM100K ?  hmm.gif
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only desperate people want to rent from you rm900. your place there doesnt deserve to get at even rm700.

not everyone the same perception, BUT certain things everyone will have same understanding.
are you saying it is ok to encourage people to rent in a place with a lot of "cheap" foreigners ?
are you saying it is ok to stay in a dirty environment ?

actually this place is 10 mins drive to Mutiara Damansara, it is not beside mutiara damansara, so what makes you think how convenient it can be for people ? you have to remember, this place has no bus at all.

it's not the people dislike the place. you got it wrong. these people actually wants to make people realize that rm160K is NOT the current price and not worth to buy because all the disadvantages is more than the advantages. that is why rm160K is very expensive, which is TRUE.

wait, let me guess, ARE YOU LIVING THERE ?

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You know what would be crappy? If someone living there is actually reading this.

Alvinyeo, I understand your hopes for the place and your efforts in raising the prices there. You yourself have invested in 4 units there right? However, you need to be aware that by helping people sell at RM150,000 or a higher price may not have much influence in the market at all. I bought a unit there and I too hope prices would spike up a little, however to face the facts, it's much more than that.

That place needs, Better Management, Better Residence, and Better Pricing. I know pushing one or the other might make a small shift but it's about pushing for all 3 not only 1.

Sure better pricing would chase away poorer residence one they can't afford the place. Sure better management could lead on to better pricing. And of course Sure! Better residence would make a Better Management! It's about working on the issue from not only the $$$ point of view.

But at the end of it all, maybe what it really need is a chance?

To the critiques, I get where you are coming from. However, if everybody is going to say that Flora Damansara is filthy, full of immigrants and don't bother improving the status of living there nothing is going to budge!

Like i mentioned, again and again... Flora Damansara is far from ideal. But not everybody earns enough to buy a 200K home, or now 300k for ideal... and most certainly not everybody gets to inherit property from their parents who worked for it years earlier.

I bought a unit there not because I would expect this place to become a Cinderella story overnight. I bought it unsure if it was a place to stay or a place for investment. I told myself since it's being my first property, let's wait and see.

But you know what... at the end of it. If you actually took the time to speak to the locals there, they'd grumble about the same things as well... but at the end of it, many of them are happy to see the improvements throughout the past year; much less water/power disruption, swimming pool is coming back up, "security" & maybe just having a place to stay.

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You know what would be crappy? If someone living there is actually reading this.

Alvinyeo, I understand your hopes for the place and your efforts in raising the prices there. You yourself have invested in 4 units there right? However, you need to be aware that by helping people sell at RM150,000 or a higher price may not have much influence in the market at all. I bought a unit there and I too hope prices would spike up a little, however to face the facts, it's much more than that.

That place needs, Better Management, Better Residence, and Better Pricing. I know pushing one or the other might make a small shift but it's about pushing for all 3 not only 1.

Sure better pricing would chase away poorer residence one they can't afford the place. Sure better management could lead on to better pricing. And of course Sure! Better residence would make a Better Management! It's about working on the issue from not only the $$$ point of view.

But at the end of it all, maybe what it really need is a chance?

To the critiques, I get where you are coming from. However, if everybody is going to say that Flora Damansara is filthy, full of immigrants and don't bother improving the status of living there nothing is going to budge!

Like i mentioned, again and again... Flora Damansara is far from ideal. But not everybody earns enough to buy a 200K home, or now 300k for ideal... and most certainly not everybody gets to inherit property from their parents who worked for it years earlier.

I bought a unit there not because I would expect this place to become a Cinderella story overnight. I bought it unsure if it was a place to stay or a place for investment. I told myself since it's being my first property, let's wait and see.

But you know what... at the end of it. If you actually took the time to speak to the locals there, they'd grumble about the same things as well... but at the end of it, many of them are happy to see the improvements throughout the past year; much less water/power disruption, swimming pool is coming back up, "security" & maybe just having a place to stay.
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firstly, it is common for people to judge the property before buying the property isnt it ? afterall, everyone is expected to do their own homework. you cant expect a purchaser to go to this property and do cleaning ???? This is obviously up to the community there. If the community does buck up, obviously people will be attracted and will come to buy even if it is rm150K. Obviously if it is dirty people will say dirty, if it is clean, takkan people want to say it is dirty ? unless that person has mental problem i guess...

but at the end of the day, what mrchipsley says is true. UNDENIABLY true. I get your point about the affordability of people to buy properties rm200K and above...but i think everyone has a right to even make a comment for a property they are going to buy, right ? It is your money, and as you say it, not everyone earns high....some need to pay loan for the rest of their lives. So, do you want them to just simply buy and get caught paying loans for the rest of their lives for something that is not worth it ?

the security is not even in place, so i felt that what the residents are paying for monthly maintenance is a bit disheartening. to be frank, until the improvements comeby, dont think this property is really as worth as what some owners want to sell. The owners also have to realize this to be fair to the purchasers....
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QUOTE(lilac @ May 16 2012, 09:10 PM)
You know what would be crappy? If someone living there is actually reading this.

Alvinyeo, I understand your hopes for the place and your efforts in raising the prices there. You yourself have invested in 4 units there right? However, you need to be aware that by helping people sell at RM150,000 or a higher price may not have much influence in the market at all. I bought a unit there and I too hope prices would spike up a little, however to face the facts, it's much more than that.

That place needs, Better Management, Better Residence, and Better Pricing. I know pushing one or the other might make a small shift but it's about pushing for all 3 not only 1.

Sure better pricing would chase away poorer residence one they can't afford the place. Sure better management could lead on to better pricing. And of course Sure! Better residence would make a Better Management! It's about working on the issue from not only the $$$ point of view.

But at the end of it all, maybe what it really need is a chance?

To the critiques, I get where you are coming from. However, if everybody is going to say that Flora Damansara is filthy, full of immigrants and don't bother improving the status of living there nothing is going to budge!

Like i mentioned, again and again... Flora Damansara is far from ideal. But not everybody earns enough to buy a 200K home, or now 300k for ideal... and most certainly not everybody gets to inherit property from their parents who worked for it years earlier.

I bought a unit there not because I would expect this place to become a Cinderella story overnight. I bought it unsure if it was a place to stay or a place for investment. I told myself since it's being my first property, let's wait and see.

But you know what... at the end of it. If you actually took the time to speak to the locals there, they'd grumble about the same things as well... but at the end of it, many of them are happy to see the improvements throughout the past year; much less water/power disruption, swimming pool is coming back up, "security" & maybe just having a place to stay.
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Thanks for understanding.

I have plans to improve the situation at there. Bit by bit, i know can prove these people wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif

I had talked with agents and management here to not rent negro block D and above. Want rent ask them go Block A & B.

Got agent offer me RM1200 for my place but is negro. I turned them down.

Frequently pay a visit to the management on what be update on the apartment.

As i know the swimming pool be ready soon in Block E for block D,E,F,H owners or tenants only. A barricade be build around the swimming pool to avoid outsider enter into it.

The entrance or road enter at Block A & B will be extend to at least 4 lanes. They gonna destroy the public parking and build a multi-storey parking at the side of Block A.

lilac, Is great to have someone able to see the potential in this property. When i bought that time i took serious consideration before enter into it. I don't regret at all. Hope you too. thumbup.gif
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Nope, he has min 10-20 props, he has another 4 units in Kepong Sentral, got some in Heritage Residence, so on  nod.gif
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why people like you guys always give REDUNDANT answers one. doh.gif

I just ask whether he lives there or not, not how many property he have. How much he has, not my business anyway. One day you got 20 properties, the next day you're bancrupt....life is not always on top lah.

dont worry, your answer wont make me jealous, not even a bit wink.gif
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 16 2012, 05:55 PM)
Dude, not everyone perception same like yours.

You got to look all aspect. If you look at locality is indeed a selling point here.

If you dislike the place, keep it yourself. Don't spoil the market.

dude,not v are spoiling d market ok? v r helping ppl so that they wont fall into big hole!

Flora is a place to avoid 110%. Location good so what?  Check out the niggers there then only open ur silly mouth!

At best i think even empty unit block h max is 130k.  Those talk 160k all big bullshit.  d oni bank that will give market value of 160k is his father's bank. period
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I can get 4 bankers to give me valuation of RM160K. And 4 of those banks doesn't below to my father. (Sorry if i don't get your sarcasm)

So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

Let me tell you the few points i'm confidence in this property :

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant)
3. Convenience (Strategic location)
4. The beautiful view and windy
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara)
6. Future MRT at Curve

hmm.gif

Most important now this property giving me positive cash flow. I don't lose anything here. Even if i let go now at the price of as you say RM130K, i still make some.
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QUOTE(david_lynn @ May 16 2012, 08:39 PM)
only desperate people want to rent from you rm900. your place there doesnt deserve to get at even rm700.

not everyone the same perception, BUT certain things everyone will have same understanding.
are you saying it is ok to encourage people to rent in a place with a lot of "cheap" foreigners ?
are you saying it is ok to stay in a dirty environment ?

actually this place is 10 mins drive to Mutiara Damansara, it is not beside mutiara damansara, so what makes you think how convenient it can be for people ? you have to remember, this place has no bus at all.

it's not the people dislike the place. you got it wrong. these people actually wants to make people realize that rm160K is NOT the current price and not worth to buy because all the disadvantages is more than the advantages. that is why rm160K is very expensive, which is TRUE.

wait, let me guess, ARE YOU LIVING THERE ?
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My place used to rent at RM800 per month for few years till my tenant decide to move back to his hometown.

Please, as you own a place at there and how you know can't even deserve at RM700.

Look, if you only based the property based on people opinion and words than i rest my cases with you.

Go view the property yourself dude, and go see out of 10 got how many foreigners.

The management has improve a lot from the last management. The only prob is too many units in a block and to clear the rubish need take at least a week time.

Not like you pay expansive maintenance fees at your high class condo to get them to clean everyday.

Can you have at least the density to understand other people.
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 16 2012, 09:38 AM)
No need jealous coz forever you won't own 20 props  nod.gif
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if so, why bother to reply ? arent you spamming ? makes you look like both an idiot & jelous of my reply thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:40 PM)
My place used to rent at RM800 per month for few years till my tenant decide to move back to his hometown.

Please, as you own a place at there and how you know can't even deserve at RM700.

Look, if you only based the property based on people opinion and words than i rest my cases with you.

Go view the property yourself dude, and go see out of 10 got how many foreigners.

The management has improve a lot from the last management. The only prob is too many units in a block and to clear the rubish need take at least a week time.

Not like you pay expansive maintenance fees at your high class condo to get them to clean everyday.

Can you have at least the density to understand other people.
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dont need to argue with him lah.. look at his topics asking stupid questions already know what type of a person he is lah.
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 09:40 AM)
My place used to rent at RM800 per month for few years till my tenant decide to move back to his hometown.

Please, as you own a place at there and how you know can't even deserve at RM700.

Look, if you only based the property based on people opinion and words than i rest my cases with you.

Go view the property yourself dude, and go see out of 10 got how many foreigners.

The management has improve a lot from the last management. The only prob is too many units in a block and to clear the rubish need take at least a week time.

Not like you pay expansive maintenance fees at your high class condo to get them to clean everyday.

Can you have at least the density to understand other people.
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nope, people who have opinions usually already went there....and survey nod.gif People wont simply say unless they themselves seen it. even if they want to lie, how can they lie until all reasons also correct ? hmm.gif ask yourself this...

im no sure about your tenant la ok, but i have a friend who rent there for 6 months for rm500, before he decided he cant stand there....

yes they improve, but there's still more room for improvement lah, as from what I see the environment myself. not i dont understand, but what you want to say when it is the truth ?


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QUOTE(awh85 @ May 16 2012, 10:46 PM)
dont need to argue with him lah.. look at his topics asking stupid questions already know what type of a person he is lah.
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Thanks for the heads up. Just noticed it. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 16 2012, 10:54 PM)
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 16 2012, 10:54 PM)
The only person look like idiot is you and indeed you are truly an idiot  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(awh85 @ May 16 2012, 10:46 PM)
dont need to argue with him lah.. look at his topics asking stupid questions already know what type of a person he is lah.
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http://www.propwall.my/damansara_perdana/flora_damansara

Seems like average asking price is now at 170k, I wonder what about the average transaction price.

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QUOTE(lilac @ May 16 2012, 10:57 PM)
http://www.propwall.my/damansara_perdana/flora_damansara

Seems like average asking price is now at 170k, I wonder what about the average transaction price.
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Nobody want believe me value can get Rm160K. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:35 PM)
I can get 4 bankers to give me valuation of RM160K. And 4 of those banks doesn't below to my father. (Sorry if i don't get your sarcasm)

So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

Let me tell you the few points i'm confidence in this property :

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant)
3. Convenience (Strategic location)
4. The beautiful view and windy
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara)
6. Future MRT at Curve

hmm.gif

Most important now this property giving me positive cash flow. I don't lose anything here. Even if i let go now at the price of as you say RM130K, i still make some.
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hahaah, dont need to be your fathers la, as long as they want business already can.

wah your question : So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

that answer is obvious isnt it ? you seem like prioritize money more than security....not right.

1. correct - should be, else no one wants to buy also
2. rental is just OK, not really cheap.
3. not really, not connected to public transport is not really convenient
4. view is depends on which unit ya, dont get caught that every unit is beautiful view.
5. ya got development, but that is a few years later, NOT NOW. so if not now, dont make the price of future to become NOW
6. when the MRT finishes, then only hike. the finishing of MRT is like a few more years...so no point of saying now, right ?

everyone here knows you will make money, coz some of people who attack you here, already telephone developer ask what is the launch price smile.gif
that is why they say you are greedy....hehehe, dont angry, some of the words the people here say is true.


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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ May 16 2012, 10:54 PM)
The only person look like idiot is you and indeed you are truly an idiot  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wah, if you reply back to him, then you mah look even more idiot than his more idiot ? hahahahhaha

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:35 PM)
I can get 4 bankers to give me valuation of RM160K. And 4 of those banks doesn't below to my father. (Sorry if i don't get your sarcasm)

So you're saying if there no "niggers" than is a livable place ?

Let me tell you the few points i'm confidence in this property :

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant)
3. Convenience (Strategic location)
4. The beautiful view and windy
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara)
6. Future MRT at Curve

hmm.gif

Most important now this property giving me positive cash flow. I don't lose anything here. Even if i let go now at the price of as you say RM130K, i still make some.
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what propwall? got iproperty la. best portal for subsale. undeniable. Pls check

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

even corner units with 1080sf only selling for 175 to 190k. Tat also give 5% less for nego part. bro...dun bullshit ppl here la wtf?

Niggers disturb ppl even like ur grandma ok? no joke. Without them, its obvious that flora would be only slightly better.

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K - so what? its cheap but is it even an reasonable place to live with basic comfort? Have you ever wondered why its still 130k today even its in DAMANSARA????? think!!!!!
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant) - agree. if u really have no choice but wanna live in damansara, this is the only option left.
3. Convenience (Strategic location). agree. but the entire road leading in and out is always full of f'ing potholes. alonso did his slalom practice here by just learning how to avoid the potholes.
4. The beautiful view and windy - depends where u facing. last time still ok. now entire place like concrete jungle, so what view u talking about bro?
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara) - all these projects are far superior than flora. And they are independent. Wont affect flora much at all.
6. Future MRT at Curve - agree. but how to reach curve for those without vehicles? Walk? 1hr shud be enuf i think..

Dun argue for the sake of it la cowboy. u mentioned the pool gonna be fixed? Dried for last 2 yrs la. Even fixed, 1 f'king little pool to serve entire blocks e, f n h??? thats like 24units x 24 floors x 3 blocks sharing 1 baby pool. WALAN-EH!!

How much maintenance u paying mthly? 77 right? dun u feel cheated? they used ur 77 for what? security? maintenance? ensure road condition ok? F U C *!!!!


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Nobody want believe me value can get Rm160K.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
what propwall? got iproperty la. best portal for subsale. undeniable. Pls check

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

even corner units with 1080sf only selling for 175 to 190k.  Tat also give 5% less for nego part.  bro...dun bullshit ppl here la wtf?

Niggers disturb ppl even like ur grandma ok? no joke.  Without them, its obvious that flora would be only slightly better.

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K - so what? its cheap but is it even an reasonable place to live with basic comfort?  Have you ever wondered why its still 130k today even its in DAMANSARA????? think!!!!!
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant) - agree.  if u really have no choice but wanna live in damansara, this is the only option left.
3. Convenience (Strategic location). agree. but the entire road leading in and out is always full of f'ing potholes.  alonso did his slalom practice here by just learning how to avoid the potholes.
4. The beautiful view and windy - depends where u facing. last time still ok.  now entire place like concrete jungle, so what view u talking about bro?
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara) - all these projects are far superior than flora.  And they are independent.  Wont affect flora much at all.
6. Future MRT at Curve - agree.  but how to reach curve for those without vehicles?  Walk? 1hr shud be enuf i think..

Dun argue for the sake of it la cowboy.  u mentioned the pool gonna be fixed?  Dried for last 2 yrs la.  Even fixed, 1 f'king little pool to serve entire blocks e, f n h??? thats like 24units x 24 floors x 3 blocks sharing 1 baby pool.  WALAN-EH!!

How much maintenance u paying mthly? 77 right?  dun u feel cheated?  they used ur 77 for what?  security? maintenance? ensure road condition ok? F U C *!!!!
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dont need to argue with him lah.. look at his topics asking stupid questions already know what type of a person he is lah.
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Thanks for the heads up. Just noticed it.   hmm.gif
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my comments are real, so if you lose cool because you cant take it, please dont call people names. afterall, you said you can sell at rm130K you also wont loss(which i dont think I can believe your kind of person will sell at rm130K)

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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
what propwall? got iproperty la. best portal for subsale. undeniable. Pls check

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

even corner units with 1080sf only selling for 175 to 190k.  Tat also give 5% less for nego part.  bro...dun bullshit ppl here la wtf?

Niggers disturb ppl even like ur grandma ok? no joke.  Without them, its obvious that flora would be only slightly better.

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K - so what? its cheap but is it even an reasonable place to live with basic comfort?  Have you ever wondered why its still 130k today even its in DAMANSARA????? think!!!!!
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant) - agree.  if u really have no choice but wanna live in damansara, this is the only option left.
3. Convenience (Strategic location). agree. but the entire road leading in and out is always full of f'ing potholes.  alonso did his slalom practice here by just learning how to avoid the potholes.
4. The beautiful view and windy - depends where u facing. last time still ok.  now entire place like concrete jungle, so what view u talking about bro?
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara) - all these projects are far superior than flora.  And they are independent.  Wont affect flora much at all.
6. Future MRT at Curve - agree.  but how to reach curve for those without vehicles?  Walk? 1hr shud be enuf i think..

Dun argue for the sake of it la cowboy.  u mentioned the pool gonna be fixed?  Dried for last 2 yrs la.  Even fixed, 1 f'king little pool to serve entire blocks e, f n h??? thats like 24units x 24 floors x 3 blocks sharing 1 baby pool.  WALAN-EH!!

How much maintenance u paying mthly? 77 right?  dun u feel cheated?  they used ur 77 for what?  security? maintenance? ensure road condition ok? F U C *!!!!
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Based on your comments here. Seem you used to own a unit here and had bad experience with it.

Mind share ? hmm.gif

I'm not here to make enemy but to learn from others. Yes, i'm maybe hard to accept other people perception but we try learn from each other at least.

Let's back to square one. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 17 2012, 12:04 AM)
Based on your comments here. Seem you used to own a unit here and had bad experience with it.

Mind share ?  hmm.gif

I'm not here to make enemy but to learn from others. Yes, i'm maybe hard to accept other people perception but we try learn from each other at least.

Let's back to square one.  thumbup.gif
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im cool ur cool n most of us here r cool.

yes ur right. Was an owner. had no choice right after finish skool so bought from developer at 118k with carpark.

Sold few months back at 132k. With light furnitures.

flora was ok when first completed. my block f was delayed 1.5yrs. Then it became worse and worse till today.

previous mgmt sucks like fuc*. allied makan money. now jmb slightly better, not much. oni know how to collect money, if dun pay, clamp ur water. pay 77 mthly dunno for what. very sad
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im cool ur cool n most of us here r cool.

yes ur right.  Was an owner.  had no choice right after finish skool so bought from developer at 118k with carpark.

Sold few months back at 132k.  With light furnitures.

flora was ok when first completed.  my block f was delayed 1.5yrs.  Then it became worse and worse till today.

previous mgmt sucks like fuc*.  allied makan money.  now jmb slightly better, not much.  oni know how to collect money, if dun pay, clamp ur water.  pay 77 mthly dunno for what. very sad
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Most my units i bought last year. I know the bad experience the owners hassle from 2008-2010. From water problem, leaking and management issues.

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Most my units i bought last year. I know the bad experience the owners hassle from 2008-2010. From water problem, leaking and management issues.

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What kind of furnishing you do ?

My one also Block H renting at RM900 basic. Haven't find the right tenant yet.  hmm.gif

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Fully furnish including maintenance fee, water and electric. Unify not included.

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Fully furnish including maintenance fee, water and electric. Unify not included.
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mine i m renting like RM700 p.m if not mistaken...not furnish and mine is > 1000 sq ft...if i remember correctly...

kind of easy to rent out.........but then the value drop la if compare to my developer price...

lucky i din shift there to stay...if not big problem....dont recommend to stay there....yourself..unless u have no choice...investment maybe boleh...but duno how long have to wait la...

give u an example...bkt oug condo ...nobody like it...value drop like hell...but recent development had make the condo super valuable...

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mine i m renting like RM700 p.m if not mistaken...not furnish and mine is > 1000 sq ft...if i remember correctly...

kind of easy to rent out.........but then the value drop la if compare to my developer price...

lucky i din shift there to stay...if not big problem....dont recommend to stay there....yourself..unless u have no choice...investment maybe boleh...but duno how long have to wait la...

give u an example...bkt oug condo ...nobody like it...value drop like hell...but recent development had make the condo super valuable...
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smile.gif finally everyone see what it means by, property owner simply hike the price on their own, without looking at their own place using their own eyes.

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smile.gif finally everyone see what it means by, property owner simply hike the price on their own, without looking at their own place using their own eyes.
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One thing i need to clarify is tat:

i heard market rent is higher then the rent i m charging......reason of i din bother to raise it if it true that market rent is higher than mine simply bcoz the tenant i m having now had been with with me for the past 2 years and i had no problem in collecting the rental plus its sufficient to cover my instalment after netting of everything..

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smile.gif finally everyone see what it means by, property owner simply hike the price on their own, without looking at their own place using their own eyes.
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Are you saying the potential tenant just pay whatever price you put and without looking at the place? I hope it is that easy drool.gif
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One thing i need to clarify is tat:

i heard market rent is higher then the rent i m charging......reason of i din bother to raise it if it true that market rent is higher than mine simply bcoz the tenant i m having now had been with with me for the past 2 years and i had no problem in collecting the rental plus its sufficient to cover my instalment after netting of everything..
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it's true what miss shaq says. she is not referring to you that you dont charge more than rm700. but having said that, maybe if you charge more, you could easily lose your tenant. we human always think of the lost we could have made instead of thinking what we have gain. when we think what we could have gain, we didnt put into consideration the disadvantages, we just focus on the advantages. my 5 cents.


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Are you saying the potential tenant just pay whatever price you put and without looking at the place? I hope it is that easy drool.gif
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i think you misinterpret her meaning....quite a deep sentence. it's a frank advise rather than a scarcastic critism.

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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 17 2012, 12:39 AM)
what propwall? got iproperty la. best portal for subsale. undeniable. Pls check

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

even corner units with 1080sf only selling for 175 to 190k.  Tat also give 5% less for nego part.  bro...dun bullshit ppl here la wtf?

Niggers disturb ppl even like ur grandma ok? no joke.  Without them, its obvious that flora would be only slightly better.

1. The only High-rise apartment in Damansara cost less than RM200K - so what? its cheap but is it even an reasonable place to live with basic comfort?  Have you ever wondered why its still 130k today even its in DAMANSARA????? think!!!!!
2. Cheap rental (for medium cost family)(Always have tenant) - agree.  if u really have no choice but wanna live in damansara, this is the only option left.
3. Convenience (Strategic location). agree. but the entire road leading in and out is always full of f'ing potholes.  alonso did his slalom practice here by just learning how to avoid the potholes.
4. The beautiful view and windy - depends where u facing. last time still ok.  now entire place like concrete jungle, so what view u talking about bro?
5. Surrounding a lot new development. (Empire City, Empire Damansara, ForestHill Damansara) - all these projects are far superior than flora.  And they are independent.  Wont affect flora much at all.
6. Future MRT at Curve - agree.  but how to reach curve for those without vehicles?  Walk? 1hr shud be enuf i think..

Dun argue for the sake of it la cowboy.  u mentioned the pool gonna be fixed?  Dried for last 2 yrs la.  Even fixed, 1 f'king little pool to serve entire blocks e, f n h??? thats like 24units x 24 floors x 3 blocks sharing 1 baby pool.  WALAN-EH!!

How much maintenance u paying mthly? 77 right?  dun u feel cheated?  they used ur 77 for what?  security? maintenance? ensure road condition ok? F U C *!!!!
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"hou lan sai lei" your answer. I like it and i agree it 101%
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"hou lan sai lei" your answer. I like it and i agree it 101%
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property market is so inflated now that desperate people shifted their attention to shit hole like Flora Damansara.

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property market is so inflated now that desperate people shifted their attention to shit hole like Flora Damansara.
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since you also admitted that even flora damansara is a shit hole/property with low value, then is it even wrong to buy there ? if you want to buy high end, why not go to high end's thread ?
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Y ppl starts looking at lower end property is bcos the mid and high end prop hv moved significantly leaving the lower end lagging behind.

For Flora to reach RM180k is not impossible for now! What can u get for RM200k in PJ? Make a search...

The lower income group make up of the biggest quadrant. Where these ppl gonna stay? What can they buy? There r no new project below Rm300k now. The supply for lower end prop r getting lesser but the demand r ever growing.

Just a share of tots!
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Y ppl starts looking at lower end property is bcos the mid and high end prop hv moved significantly leaving the lower end lagging behind.

- it's good that you know lah...coz many people are still blinded.

For Flora to reach RM180k is not impossible for now! What can u get for RM200k in PJ? Make a search...

- how can you compare flora with other apartment in PJ ? you are not comparing apple to apple to begin with. The only similarity is PJ, that's all. and
  you even dare to say can reach rm180K, have u stayed there ? even a ex-resident there admit on the condition, have profitability blinded you ?
  you are talking like an animal trying to make love with it's partner. Dont care if the other partner is sick or whatever, just do it. Yes, it is called
  FORCE. Even though not directly "force" but essentialy is asking people to ACCEPT the price for whatever the condition is because PROPERTY
  PRICE NEEDS TO BE RAISED. and simply just take a comparsion with all the PJ Apartment just to justify the NEED TO RAISE THE PRICE.
  are you or the agents have brains ?

The lower income group make up of the biggest quadrant. Where these ppl gonna stay? What can they buy? There r no new project below Rm300k now. The supply for lower end prop r getting lesser but the demand r ever growing.

- this is none of your business to be frank. The problem does however comes from people like you or those agents or those investors who have
  manipulated the prices. so, dnt bother to even ask where those people want to stay.

Just a share of tots! - yes, the above is also my thinking as well. Im just expressing it out.
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Investor r opportunist. We put our money on where there r money to make. Don't get emotional my friend. If u don't think this is the investment for u then stand aside keep yr money in the bank and try fighting the inflation.

This is market forces nobody can help it unless policy change. This is the market sentiment whether u like it or not. Wake up and move on my friend. Face the reality.





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Investor r opportunist. We put our money on where there r money to make. Don't get emotional my friend. If u don't think this is the investment for u then stand aside keep yr money in the bank and try fighting the inflation.

This is market forces nobody can help it unless policy change. This is the market sentiment whether u like it or not. Wake up and move on my friend. Face the  reality.
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errr, it's not whether i like it or not...you observe many are buying this property ? ( pls dont ask agent, until cow comes home they will say a lot of people buying...) from what I see, more are trying to sell off, rather than buying hehehe.

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this thread...is getting a lot heat...

very simple...

who ever think flora has potential just go and buy it...no need argue here....

who ever thinks flora no good just put in opinion no need curse other ppl....and just go buy other property which u think is good...

who ever wan to buy flora from me at RM200K....please welcome to contact me.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(simply red @ May 18 2012, 02:37 PM)
Investor r opportunist. We put our money on where there r money to make. Don't get emotional my friend. If u don't think this is the investment for u then stand aside keep yr money in the bank and try fighting the inflation.

This is market forces nobody can help it unless policy change. This is the market sentiment whether u like it or not. Wake up and move on my friend. Face the  reality.
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what he is trying to say is that he doesnt agree with the fact that property owners/agents simply raise the stupid damn price in an unrealistically way. other than that, he's not objecting...he agrees property needs to be able to appreciate.

even if he is emotional, he is emotional about the unrealistic increase of the property price, which is true because these prices arent according to real property valuer value...
i mean seriously, im laughing here, why is it very hard for people to see they are buying McDonald's McValue set for the price of a set meal in TGI Friday's. I know the "potential"...but the "potential" is far much more longer yet.


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QUOTE(noswear @ May 18 2012, 03:01 PM)
this thread...is getting a lot heat...

very simple...

who ever think flora has potential just go and buy it...no need argue here....

who ever thinks flora no good just put in opinion no need curse other ppl....and just go buy other property which u think is good...

who ever wan to buy flora from me at RM200K....please welcome to contact me.... tongue.gif
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just in case you dont notice, mrchipsley walk away....he's just trying to let other people see his view, that's not wrong right ?

about your rm200K, i do hope you have the patience to wait wink.gif

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 18 2012, 03:01 PM)
this thread...is getting a lot heat...

very simple...

who ever think flora has potential just go and buy it...no need argue here....

who ever thinks flora no good just put in opinion no need curse other ppl....and just go buy other property which u think is good...

who ever wan to buy flora from me at RM200K....please welcome to contact me.... tongue.gif
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Haha....if 20.0k.....i buy for you lol..... biggrin.gif.

Frankly speaking, if you have 160k ~ 200k budget, why not consider B.oug (Current i stay there), capital appreciation more faster than Flora. The oni different 1 in PJ another at KL.

Anyway, Flora damansara still is the top 1 in my property list, i monitoring Flora since 2005 until today still not dare to buy....i go few auction before, but look like not much ppl interest in this property....so capital appreciation for time being will be very low or zero.

I oni consider to buy here, when i saw a big improvement on security issue.
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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
errr, it's not whether i like it or not...you observe many are buying this property ? ( pls dont ask agent, until cow comes home they will say a lot of people buying...) from what I see, more are trying to sell off, rather than buying hehehe.
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250 for sale / 2000 units = 10 over % its not a lot, moreover there r many repeats from different agents. If u hv follow the market for the pass few months, prices for 850sf hv moved from RM120k - RM140k. Rent has increased from Rm500 - RM800/mth. This shows that people r buying and renting.

1st owner hv difficulty to sell previously when the prices for other properties r still low (many below Rm300k) and now there r demand for their property therefore they sell it. They hv hold it for about 10 yrs with not much appreciation but not knowing the future potential of the property. With so many new offices and shops nearby, the demand for rental will increase. Rent increase, prop value also follow.


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QUOTE(22222222 @ May 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
Haha....if 20.0k.....i buy for you lol..... biggrin.gif.

Frankly speaking, if you have 160k ~ 200k budget, why not consider B.oug (Current i stay there), capital appreciation more faster than Flora. The oni different 1 in PJ another at KL.

Anyway, Flora damansara still is the top 1 in my property list, i monitoring Flora since 2005 until today still not dare to buy....i go few auction before, but look like not much ppl interest in this property....so capital appreciation for time being will be very low or zero.

I oni consider to buy here, when i saw a big improvement on security issue.
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haha....20K...i top up make it 50K per unit....i buy 10 units from you in one go...


20K must go far until Bukit "profit" only can get...
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QUOTE(22222222 @ May 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
Haha....if 20.0k.....i buy for you lol..... biggrin.gif.

Frankly speaking, if you have 160k ~ 200k budget, why not consider B.oug (Current i stay there), capital appreciation more faster than Flora. The oni different 1 in PJ another at KL.

Anyway, Flora damansara still is the top 1 in my property list, i monitoring Flora since 2005 until today still not dare to buy....i go few auction before, but look like not much ppl interest in this property....so capital appreciation for time being will be very low or zero.

I oni consider to buy here, when i saw a big improvement on security issue.
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the biggest problem is the people here see the location more selling factor as compare to other more important issues such as cleanliness, security and road condition which they fail to see. having said that, anyone with conscious mind will not want to stay there or invest there, because the price is not tally with the things that one is going to buy. any seller should have known people are buying something involved hundred thousands, not buy vegetable... laugh.gif

and i remember when i go in, the workmanship for this property is not as good as many think...even more worrying when they people there start to sell in a lot....something must be very strange. I dont buy it for the rental.....something isnt right there.
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1. correct - should be, else no one wants to buy also
2. rental is just OK, not really cheap.
3. not really, not connected to public transport is not really convenient
4. view is depends on which unit ya, dont get caught that every unit is beautiful view.
5. ya got development, but that is a few years later, NOT NOW. so if not now, dont make the price of future to become NOW
6. when the MRT finishes, then only hike. the finishing of MRT is like a few more years...so no point of saying now, right ?

everyone here knows you will make money, coz some of people who attack you here, already telephone developer ask what is the launch price smile.gif
that is why they say you are greedy....hehehe, dont angry, some of the words the people here say is true.


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:38 pm

wah, if you reply back to him, then you mah look even more idiot than his more idiot ? hahahahhaha
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replying to your answer

1. yes it has to be cheap else really no one else would buy. Moreover, since this development is on the hill, do you notice the medium block is behind
like a hill ? got slope ? one day if tanah runtuh, the whole block is gone...im serious.

2. rental is actually cater more to the people doing the construction....other than that I think normal people will buy other other development which is
more high class a bit. They wont be attracted to medium class. the only famous one would be the low cost one...

3. yup, not connected to public transport will be a not good place. furthermoew the future MRT is far from this place....so, connectivity is not good,
dont think it's good. at least wont impress people, because you can easily get such apt in another area.

4. obviously views really depends on the location of the block and where it is facing, only 10% gets good view, the rest is just faking up their
happiness about how well their view is.

5. development will affect the pricing of this property AFTER IT HAS BEEN BUILT FINISHED. until then , it's just talking rubbish when you uses this
"development" topic to make people felt there is still hope for Flora Damansara.

6. the mrt is irrelevant anyway...it's so far away ! You need to drive there to use it.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 18 2012, 03:01 PM)
this thread...is getting a lot heat...

very simple...

who ever think flora has potential just go and buy it...no need argue here....

who ever thinks flora no good just put in opinion no need curse other ppl....and just go buy other property which u think is good...

who ever wan to buy flora from me at RM200K....please welcome to contact me.... tongue.gif
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Don't need RM200k la, me RM160K enough. rclxm9.gif
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Don't need RM200k la, me RM160K enough.  rclxm9.gif
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blush.gif dont say to syiok sendiri la....
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replying to your answer

1. yes it has to be cheap else really no one else would buy. Moreover, since this development is on the hill, do you notice the medium block is behind
    like a hill ? got slope ? one day if tanah runtuh, the whole block is gone...im serious.

2. rental is actually cater more to the people doing the construction....other than that I think normal people will buy other other development which is
    more high class a bit. They wont be attracted to medium class. the only famous one would be the low cost one...

3. yup, not connected to public transport will be a not good place. furthermoew the future MRT is far from this place....so, connectivity is not good,
    dont think it's good. at least wont impress people, because you can easily get such apt in another area.

4. obviously views really depends on the location of the block and where it is facing, only 10% gets good view, the rest is just faking up their
    happiness about how well their view is.

5. development will affect the pricing of this property AFTER IT HAS BEEN BUILT FINISHED. until then , it's just talking rubbish when you uses this
    "development" topic to make people felt there is still hope for Flora Damansara.

6. the mrt is irrelevant anyway...it's so far away ! You need to drive there to use it.... doh.gif
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actually many agents still dun think what u say is true...anyway, just avoid this development if the price is too much...
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just to share what people think

http://www.propwall.my/answers/543/flora-damansara

i felt there's no way the property can appreciate if those problems still persist. chinese very less live here...

by the way, this property still not yet get the strata title, after 6 to 7 years, will it be a difficult situation for future purchasers to transfer strata title ?


Added on May 19, 2012, 11:10 amit even come up inn newspaper :

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...999&sec=central

imagine they want to sell at rm160K...wow, these days people.

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 18 2012, 03:01 PM)
this thread...is getting a lot heat...

very simple...

who ever think flora has potential just go and buy it...no need argue here....

who ever thinks flora no good just put in opinion no need curse other ppl....and just go buy other property which u think is good...

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blush.gif dont say to syiok sendiri la....
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QUOTE(sakura888 @ May 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
just to share what people think

http://www.propwall.my/answers/543/flora-damansara

i felt there's no way the property can appreciate if those problems still persist. chinese very less live here...

by the way, this property still not yet get the strata title, after 6 to 7 years, will it be a difficult situation for future purchasers to transfer strata title ?


Added on May 19, 2012, 11:10 amit even come up inn newspaper :

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...999&sec=central

imagine they want to sell at rm160K...wow, these days people.
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dont just copy and paste man, say something lah....i understand you are one of the owner, but to make it simple lah, i dont simply say, the environment is not good. and what they say is true, as long as the place dont become cleaner & the security dont improve, it's a bit not practical to increase price. not at this point of time. icon_rolleyes.gif

try to understand purchaser or future investor way of looking at things, because they havent buy yet, of course they will look at things from a commercial perspective. near to IKEA/TESCO/CURVE is just 1 one of the point, but ask yourself, people everyday go to Tesco or Curve or Ikea ? it cant be right ?

ok i stop here...later people say i curse pulak when im trying to explain other people's perspective.

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No need to debate too much about flora damansara dude..each person got their own acceptance.
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No need to debate too much about flora damansara dude..each person got their own acceptance.
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are you referring to me ? tongue.gif

i understand everyone got their own perspective, this one i think everyone should understand. however, sometimes there are certain things we can understand one mah, how to say leh....common sense you know.

but i felt the best is for flora damansara, better the owner sell themselves rather than use agent, agent mouth you know lah, if they know a buyer like dont want to buy at high price, they will quickly disregard that person already...all also like that one. maybe they might add in chilli or salt to their words...so the buyer and purchasers who dont meet will not be able to have a clear picture. maybe the agents already planted all the advantages only to the property owner and make the buyers look only at the advantages, and not aware of the underlying problems...

anyway, i describe too much already laugh.gif



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are you referring to me ?  tongue.gif

i understand everyone got their own perspective, this one i think everyone should understand. however, sometimes there are certain things we can understand one mah, how to say leh....common sense you know.

but i felt the best is for flora damansara, better the owner sell themselves rather than use agent, agent mouth you know lah, if they know a buyer like dont want to buy at high price, they will quickly disregard that person already...all also like that one. maybe they might add in chilli or salt to their words...so the buyer and purchasers who dont meet will not be able to have a clear picture. maybe the agents already planted all the advantages only to the property owner and make the buyers look only at the advantages, and not aware of the underlying problems...

anyway, i describe too much already  laugh.gif
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actually, if really the security & cleanliness is an issue, im very sure this will also impact the people who want to rent there(medium cost). Tell me, who want to rent in a place where security is not good yet place is dirty ? i mean for rm700 per month(and this is min price somemore shocking.gif ) ? unless they are no other nearer place...but SS2 area is also nearby what, so if for me, I will rather go and rent there because there is more convenient compare with Flora damansara. been there once which is on 2009, and i thought it was a low cost flat all of them...rupa2nya also got medium

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Don't need RM200k la, me RM160K enough.  rclxm9.gif
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whan all the developments are completed, what kinda view do you expect?
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a typical afternoon of ur med cost walkway - ladies, what u think?? cant tell if theres a * hiding somewhere tongue.gif

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mega water leaks. imagine this happening in ur unit

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the button panel for lift. 3/4 vandalised. if the 4th one goes as well, guys, u have to take a walk to the next floor to get to ur lift!

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the pool? is it our weather so hot or the pool is jus not functioning - this the the common area for all med costs - guys, u all pay rm77/mth for what ya? check out the court as well tongue.gif

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quality of ppl and materials here. also check out the shoe sole testing on the wall - u name it, u got it - nike, adidas, puma, asadi, bata ...

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check out the private parking for motorbikes here...imagine how these jakuns sakais hooligans bring their bikes into their lifts? 1st class mentality



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errr, after looking at your pics, suddenly i felt those that asking for rm160K for 850 square feet is like rclxub.gif

is this pics you take on the medium cost unit ? if it is, then OMG.
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errr, after looking at your pics, suddenly i felt those that asking for rm160K for 850 square feet is like  rclxub.gif

is this pics you take on the medium cost unit ? if it is, then OMG.
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pictures taken at 130k medium cost apartments @ flora damansara.

im not trying to spoil the market there, but just giving every1 a clear picture of the real situation there..

its ur own judgement in the end isnt it?
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mega water leaks.  imagine this happening in ur unit

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the button panel for lift.  3/4 vandalised.  if the 4th one goes as well, guys, u have to take a walk to the next floor to get to ur lift!

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the pool? is it our weather so hot or the pool is jus not functioning - this the the common area for all med costs - guys, u all pay rm77/mth for what ya? check out the court as well tongue.gif

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quality of ppl and materials here.  also check out the shoe sole testing on the wall - u name it, u got it - nike, adidas, puma, asadi, bata ...

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check out the private parking for motorbikes here...imagine how these jakuns sakais hooligans bring their bikes into their lifts? 1st class mentality
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man, one look it does look like low cost.... shocking.gif now, im really shock...no woner all the previous people keep on saying bad things, and I thought their mouth are just gatal... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 20 2012, 01:38 PM)
pictures taken at 130k medium cost apartments @ flora damansara.

im not trying to spoil the market there, but just giving every1 a clear picture of the real situation there..

its ur own judgement in the end isnt it?
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let's put it this way, even if you dont put the pics, people will still need to go an see the unit, right ?

the agent can say 1001 great things about this property, but once people go and see, sorry to say, they will "feel" the truth.

seriously, is the JMB doing anything at all ? is there any audit done on the account of what happen to all those monthly maintenance goes to ? becase if you keep paying monthly maintenance, but still got water cut, this cut, that cut, sure somewhere there must be people makan wang...

between, housailei, which block is this ?

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man, one look it does look like low cost.... shocking.gif now, im really shock...no woner all the previous people keep on saying bad things, and I thought their mouth are just gatal... sweat.gif


Added on May 20, 2012, 1:46 pm

let's put it this way, even if you dont put the pics, people will still need to go an see the unit, right ?

the agent can say 1001 great things about this property, but once people go and see, sorry to say, they will "feel" the truth.

seriously, is the JMB doing anything at all ? is there any audit done on the account of what happen to all those monthly maintenance goes to ? becase if you keep paying monthly maintenance, but still got water cut, this cut, that cut, sure somewhere there must be people makan wang...

between, housailei, which block is this ?
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agree. its block F.

b4 this jmb, it was this prop mgmt company called allied. confirmed those guys eat money. dun take my word for it. u can go ask around.

current jmb is only a wee bit better. their only main concern is to collect $$, and if u dun pay up, they will clamp ur water. i seriously wonder where those $$ goes? this is a big ?. really
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agree. its block F.

b4 this jmb, it was this prop mgmt company called allied.  confirmed those guys eat money.  dun take my word for it. u can go ask around.

current jmb is only a wee bit better. their only main concern is to collect $$, and if u dun pay up, they will clamp ur water.  i seriously wonder where those $$ goes? this is a big ?. really
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then think this is the ROOT PROBLEM. if anyne can solve this, then flora damansara "could" be better. and the other thing is, water meter must be individual and NOT GROUP. else, there are people tell their other families come to use, then how to jusify ? electricity also must be individual, everything also need to be individual...oh man, it's very "fu chak" here.

actually the JMB can demand previous management for account, if they cant provide, please prepare to sue the previous management. This is what other apartment JMB are doing also...im saying this not because Im a bad person, but Im saying this because I want to believe that Flora Damansara is a place with "potential" BUT how can it be "potential" when all of this is happening ? JMB plays a very important part in the progression of the property...


Added on May 20, 2012, 2:12 pmohhh, this used to be an abandon project ! hhmmm, if tht's the case, then very hard for people to buy lah, as the strata title havent come out yet...dunno when "this company" will transfer the strata title...

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I sold my FD unit 2 months back for a mere RM 125k below market value. Couldn't stand it anymore. Montly rentals can't even cover the monthly installment let alone maintenance fees.

And hard to get quality tenants. Mine ran away leaving 4 months of unpaid rent and lots of rubbish and junk in the unit. Doors broken, tiles cracked, toilets leaked and above all... found 40 roaches inside! Yucks! Had to spend RM 5k to repair everything before selling it.

To make it simple... worse than a DBKL flat!
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 20 2012, 02:26 PM)
I sold my FD unit 2 months back for a mere RM 125k below market value. Couldn't stand it anymore. Montly rentals can't even cover the monthly installment let alone maintenance fees.

And hard to get quality tenants. Mine ran away leaving 4 months of unpaid rent and lots of rubbish and junk in the unit. Doors broken, tiles cracked, toilets leaked and above all... found 40 roaches inside! Yucks! Had to spend RM 5k to repair everything before selling it.

To make it simple... worse than a DBKL flat!
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which is why i walk away icon_idea.gif you are lucky to manage to sell at rm125K, but dont think many would want it....rm125K is too over value for such a property. so alvin and others, you see where Im seeing it ? sometimes, we need to understand why that person say bd things about this property, not defending something that is not worth to defend.

i really pity you...what atenant to get ! sorry to ask this, which race is this tenant ? how dare that tenant run away,leaving rubbish....post the IC up here then only he know.

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QUOTE(acbc @ May 20 2012, 02:26 PM)
I sold my FD unit 2 months back for a mere RM 125k below market value. Couldn't stand it anymore. Montly rentals can't even cover the monthly installment let alone maintenance fees.

And hard to get quality tenants. Mine ran away leaving 4 months of unpaid rent and lots of rubbish and junk in the unit. Doors broken, tiles cracked, toilets leaked and above all... found 40 roaches inside! Yucks! Had to spend RM 5k to repair everything before selling it.

To make it simple... worse than a DBKL flat!
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i sold mine for 132k hehehe...

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i sold mine for 132k hehehe...

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i din bluff and serious wan.

furniture i left back was - 2 air con, bed frame and and matress, 1 water heater, tv cab, sofa set at living, dining table.

as long v dun sell below developer selling price which was 118k, considered not too bad
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i din bluff and serious wan.

furniture i left back was - 2 air con, bed frame and and matress, 1 water heater, tv cab, sofa set at living, dining table.

as long v dun sell below developer selling price which was 118k, considered not too bad
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118K for 850 square feet ? hhhmmm, felt even that was expensive for this kind of material & environment.

oh ya forget to ask, then since the strata title not yet out(which i doubt will be out also..) how you guys do the name transfer for the ownership of the unit then ?

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118K for 850 square feet ? hhhmmm, felt even that was expensive for this kind of material & environment.

oh ya forget to ask, then since the strata title not yet out(which i doubt will be out also..) how you guys do the name transfer for the ownership of the unit then ?
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lawyer would need a confirmation letter from developer

lots of other strata developments also dun have strata title yet bro..but ppl still buying + selling
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 20 2012, 02:30 PM)
i sold mine for 132k hehehe...

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Lucky u... mine is empty unit with new repairs... luckily already collected RM 30k in LAD last time.
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a typical afternoon of ur med cost walkway - ladies, what u think?? cant tell if theres a * hiding somewhere tongue.gif

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mega water leaks.  imagine this happening in ur unit

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the button panel for lift.  3/4 vandalised.  if the 4th one goes as well, guys, u have to take a walk to the next floor to get to ur lift!

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the pool? is it our weather so hot or the pool is jus not functioning - this the the common area for all med costs - guys, u all pay rm77/mth for what ya? check out the court as well tongue.gif

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quality of ppl and materials here.  also check out the shoe sole testing on the wall - u name it, u got it - nike, adidas, puma, asadi, bata ...

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check out the private parking for motorbikes here...imagine how these jakuns sakais hooligans bring their bikes into their lifts? 1st class mentality
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notworthy.gif and thumbup.gif for the above photos shared.

Let me share some of my personal experience here too. I used to stay in FD before i managed to move out. In that period, all sort of things happened:-

1. Safety - Few houses in my level actually broke in by thieves. According to my neighbours, it happened in the late morning. All their luxury items gone. They reported the incidents to the police, but police cant help. They have informed the management office, but sadly, no response has been taken. I mean come on, we as residents paying maintenance fee of RM77 per month, but what are those guards are doing??!! So far what i have noticed is the guards are merely staring at ur vehicle at guard house there each time u drive in and out! rclxub.gif

2. Safety - There are few times when i was alone at home, some visible and invisible ghosts came to knock at our door. For the very first time, i thought was a visitor. So i was trying to ask who was him / her outside there. But when no one response, i opened the door and i saw a man with black color shirt and pants but i cant even see his face! the next moment i slammed the door and locked it. Unfortunately he still kept knocking and knocking at the door till i shouted i want to call the police only the knocking sound stopped. Not just one time i experienced that, few times after that in the mid of night!! vmad.gif So ladies, please pay full attention to this.

3. Too friendly neigbourhood - In my block, there are alot of "black black neighbours". There are many times when i was alone taking the lift, i was fortunate enough to bump into those black black neighbours. I was praying hard they would let me have some peace, but unfortunately, every time when bump into them, they sure "say Hi" to me and i was seriously freaking out. I guess all of u have the idea what was actually happening.

4. House Condition - Talk about the house, like what u guys can see from the pictures posted by our dearest friend, the unit i was staying encountered the same problem too. Pipe leaking until the extent the water dripped down on the floor. Half of the ceiling full of water stains. Our tiles cracked, wall cracked. Else than that, so far others are still under control.

5. Lifts - 5 units of lifts (if i remember correctly), only 2 out of 5 are functioning. Sometimes, might have surprise in the morning as well whereby none are functioning! Guess what, i have no choice but to run down the staircase in the early morning!!

6. Management office - I paid my maintenance fees quite prompt. Unfortunately, there was once i forgot to pay my maintenance fees for 2 months and they clamped the water. I went to maintenance office, paid for the maintenance fees and asked to waive the clamping penalty. Guess what, i was attended by this management officer named Lawrence, he was so rude and shouted at me. I was so pissed off so i raised by voice too due to poor and rude customer service attitude of him. He not only never apologize, but instead threaten me if anything happen to my unit, he cant guarantee that management will help or in another word, take care of my own unit at my own risk despite i paid for monthly maintenance fee!!

The above are just part of my experience staying in flora damansara. If i were to continue, take whole night also not enough time for me to list out one by one. To all potential buyer there, think twice especially if you are a lady. What i can conclude, shit place to stay, Fxxking bloodly attitude management officers! Nightmare in my life. Sigh... sad.gif

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Wow..now this is really creepy! Care to share which Block and which Floor you're staying? Also when was your stay?

I noticed that a lot of residence places a Christian Cross, word "Assalamulaikum" or those Chinese "Fu" stuck on their doors. Cloud this be for preventive reasons?

At the same time, I can't help to notice how accounts are being created just to post in this page. whistling.gif



QUOTE(MCooper @ May 20 2012, 04:22 PM)
notworthy.gif and  thumbup.gif for the above photos shared.

Let me share some of my personal experience here too. I used to stay in FD before i managed to move out. In that period, all sort of things happened:-

1. Safety - Few houses in my level actually broke in by thieves. According to my neighbours, it happened in the late morning. All their luxury items gone. They reported the incidents to the police, but police cant help. They have informed the management office, but sadly, no response has been taken. I mean come on, we as residents paying maintenance fee of RM77 per month, but what are those guards are doing??!! So far what i have noticed is the guards are merely staring at ur vehicle at guard house there each time u drive in and out!  rclxub.gif

2. Safety - There are few times when i was alone at home, some visible and invisible ghosts came to knock at our door. For the very first time, i thought was a visitor. So i was trying to ask who was him / her outside there. But when no one response, i opened the door and i saw a man with black color shirt and pants but i cant even see his face! the next moment i slammed the door and locked it. Unfortunately he still kept knocking and knocking at the door till i shouted i want to call the police only the knocking sound stopped. Not just one time i experienced that, few times after that in the mid of night!!  vmad.gif So ladies, please pay full attention to this.

3. Too friendly neigbourhood - In my block, there are alot of "black black neighbours". There are many times when i was alone taking the lift, i was fortunate enough to bump into those black black neighbours. I was praying hard they would let me have some peace, but unfortunately, every time when bump into them, they sure "say Hi" to me and i was seriously freaking out. I guess all of u have the idea what was actually happening.

4. House Condition - Talk about the house, like what u guys can see from the pictures posted by our dearest friend, the unit i was staying encountered the same problem too. Pipe leaking until the extent the water dripped down on the floor. Half of the ceiling full of water stains. Our tiles cracked, wall cracked. Else than that, so far others are still under control.

5. Lifts - 5 units of lifts (if i remember correctly), only 2 out of 5 are functioning. Sometimes, might have surprise in the morning as well whereby none are functioning! Guess what, i have no choice but to run down the staircase in the early morning!!

6. Management office - I paid my maintenance fees quite prompt. Unfortunately, there was once i forgot to pay my maintenance fees for 2 months and they clamped the water. I went to maintenance office, paid for the maintenance fees and asked to waive the clamping penalty. Guess what, i was attended by this management officer named Lawrence, he was so rude and shouted at me. I was so pissed off so i raised by voice too due to poor and rude customer service attitude of him. He not only never apologize, but instead threaten me if anything happen to my unit, he cant guarantee that management will help or in another word, take care of my own unit at my own risk despite i paid for monthly maintenance fee!!

The above are just part of my experience staying in flora damansara. If i were to continue, take whole night also not enough time for me to list out one by one. To all potential buyer there, think twice especially if you are a lady. What i can conclude, shit place to stay, Fxxking bloodly attitude management officers! Nightmare in my life. Sigh... sad.gif 

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hhhmm, im thinking if there are already a few people like this, i think there are certainly more people, especially IT illiterate ones. this really is not good. and how could those agents/house owners even think of hiking the price ? sigh....maybe only they themselves felt the pain when all these people come out and tell the truth... let me comment your reply below biggrin.gif

QUOTE(MCooper @ May 20 2012, 04:22 PM)
notworthy.gif and  thumbup.gif for the above photos shared.

Let me share some of my personal experience here too. I used to stay in FD before i managed to move out. In that period, all sort of things happened:-

1. Safety - Few houses in my level actually broke in by thieves. According to my neighbours, it happened in the late morning. All their luxury items gone. They reported the incidents to the police, but police cant help. They have informed the management office, but sadly, no response has been taken. I mean come on, we as residents paying maintenance fee of RM77 per month, but what are those guards are doing??!! So far what i have noticed is the guards are merely staring at ur vehicle at guard house there each time u drive in and out!  rclxub.gif

- oh goodness, this is a big NO NO. I need to tell all my friends about this before they buy. the thieves broke in using front door or like monkeys from the window ? nolah, if the management office has been shitty all this while, they will be shitty in many years to come. trust me. police ? is not that you dont know right ? if that's the case rm77 is very expensive....does the resident use any security guard to touch the gate to get in ? or is it
controlled by the security guard ? sounds to me, the residents bodoh2 pay the rm77 to "give makan" to the security guard company & management.


2. Safety - There are few times when i was alone at home, some visible and invisible ghosts came to knock at our door. For the very first time, i thought was a visitor. So i was trying to ask who was him / her outside there. But when no one response, i opened the door and i saw a man with black color shirt and pants but i cant even see his face! the next moment i slammed the door and locked it. Unfortunately he still kept knocking and knocking at the door till i shouted i want to call the police only the knocking sound stopped. Not just one time i experienced that, few times after that in the mid of night!!  vmad.gif So ladies, please pay full attention to this.

- yes, when you see those black people, you must pretend you dont see them....their "friendliness" is a dangerous type. so woman, you need to
AVOID them as far as possible no matter how "friendly" they are. dangerous...this medium cost property i think now is same status as low cost
already, unquestionable. Those black people i think there must be a way for people to get rid of them. this is really really red alert.


3. Too friendly neigbourhood - In my block, there are alot of "black black neighbours". There are many times when i was alone taking the lift, i was fortunate enough to bump into those black black neighbours. I was praying hard they would let me have some peace, but unfortunately, every time when bump into them, they sure "say Hi" to me and i was seriously freaking out. I guess all of u have the idea what was actually happening.

- i never bothered to look at them. Once I detect black people(usually they either have very very smelly iron smell or they have a HORRIBLE taste of putting fragrance at their body, so strong that you cant help but notice it is their type.) I will stand as far as possible away from them, irregardless
they are innocent or rough. What an eyesore to me is some chinese girls can even take them as bf or walk with them...OMG, how desperate these
girls are ?


4. House Condition - Talk about the house, like what u guys can see from the pictures posted by our dearest friend, the unit i was staying encountered the same problem too. Pipe leaking until the extent the water dripped down on the floor. Half of the ceiling full of water stains. Our tiles cracked, wall cracked. Else than that, so far others are still under control.

- house condition dont need to say loh, since this company already like sudah muflis, then their work also will reflect their workmanship. I pity those who live here. I think you all deserve better houses/property(this words is not applicable to investors)


5. Lifts - 5 units of lifts (if i remember correctly), only 2 out of 5 are functioning. Sometimes, might have surprise in the morning as well whereby none are functioning! Guess what, i have no choice but to run down the staircase in the early morning!!

- my goodness ! imagine if the person live in level 16, then ??????? and those agents can still have the desire to ask for rm130K for this kind of
property! and rm180K for 1080 sqf one....are they crazy or what ?


6. Management office - I paid my maintenance fees quite prompt. Unfortunately, there was once i forgot to pay my maintenance fees for 2 months and they clamped the water. I went to maintenance office, paid for the maintenance fees and asked to waive the clamping penalty. Guess what, i was attended by this management officer named Lawrence, he was so rude and shouted at me. I was so pissed off so i raised by voice too due to poor and rude customer service attitude of him. He not only never apologize, but instead threaten me if anything happen to my unit, he cant guarantee that management will help or in another word, take care of my own unit at my own risk despite i paid for monthly maintenance fee!!

- is the management done by chinese ? or combination of races ? my goodness, i think residents should have a major voice to FIRE whoever that is terrible.

The above are just part of my experience staying in flora damansara. If i were to continue, take whole night also not enough time for me to list out one by one. To all potential buyer there, think twice especially if you are a lady. What i can conclude, shit place to stay, Fxxking bloodly attitude management officers! Nightmare in my life. Sigh... sad.gif 

i guess i have to thank you for making me feel good about my decision! That agent asking for rm140K, somemore say many people already bought (Macamlah really got a lot people buy)I already suspicious when they out such high price....

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QUOTE(lilac @ May 20 2012, 07:05 PM)
Wow..now this is really creepy! Care to share which Block and which Floor you're staying? Also when was your stay?

I noticed that a lot of residence places a Christian Cross, word "Assalamulaikum" or those Chinese "Fu" stuck on their doors. Cloud this be for preventive reasons?

At the same time, I can't help to notice how accounts are being created just to post in this page.  whistling.gif
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hehehe, you sure are right about the "how many accounts are being created to post in this forum". But, I think more importantly, we need to realize that such posts is good as it is informational, and more importantly it's done to bring awareness to people about what things cant be seen for anyone who wish to buy there but unable to "see" certain things...

so, please keep them coming....people have the right to know about the truth la. another thing is i think the low cost beside it really also influence the medium cost to be affected. not to mention the hopeless service...

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QUOTE(lilac @ May 20 2012, 07:05 PM)
Wow..now this is really creepy! Care to share which Block and which Floor you're staying? Also when was your stay?

I noticed that a lot of residence places a Christian Cross, word "Assalamulaikum" or those Chinese "Fu" stuck on their doors. Cloud this be for preventive reasons?

At the same time, I can't help to notice how accounts are being created just to post in this page.  whistling.gif
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Buddy, if i tell u actual block actual floor actual unit, owners there still need to rent out to people? sweat.gif I was just sharing my experience, not intended to push the owners there to dead end. I moved out before cny when finally afford to do so... Fyi, i been following this forum and other forum for quite sometimes but never have the intention to post anything until betahan some of the comments. Since i used to stay there, better i share some of my experience before any other person regret or have bad experience like me. Anyway, not creepy or try to frighten anyone. I was just sharing what i had experience. For those who need to know the truth, those might help. For those do not believe and think i was just trying to bullshit, go to take a look at night time. yawn.gif
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Actually, last few months I'm considering to buy a unit here....and went to this apartment myself to see the condition.That is why I followed this thread closely and appreciated all comments and review from real buyer and tenant there.

It is up to a buyer/tenant.If they can sacrifice a bit about the condition of the apartment due to close to the workplace, it is a good choice. But if they cant tahan about the environment, then they have to sacrifice a bit about money and time.
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Actually, last few months I'm considering to buy a unit here....and went to this apartment myself to see the condition.That is why I followed this thread closely and appreciated all comments and review from real buyer and tenant there.

It is up to a buyer/tenant.If they can sacrifice a bit about the condition of the apartment due to close to the workplace, it is a good choice. But if they cant tahan about the environment, then they have to sacrifice a bit about money and time.
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so have u consider to buy then ? what are your views on this property ?
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so have u consider to buy then ? what are your views on this property ?
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Not really sure to buy or not...just love the location and the price tag but big question mark inside my head blush.gif

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 21 2012, 12:52 PM)
Not really sure to buy or not...just love the location and the price tag but big question mark inside my head  blush.gif
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the price tag is a bit expensive actually. especially for the 1080 sq
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the price tag is a bit expensive actually. especially for the 1080 sq
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What would you think is the suitable price ? If you would want to purchase a unit there.
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For location wise, I believe the price tag is cheap already.Now the issues only for the apartment itself.
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 21 2012, 03:39 PM)
What would you think is the suitable price ? If you would want to purchase a unit there.
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this price is not from me, from property valuer :

850 sqft = rm120K for low floor, 130K for high floor.

1080 sqft = rm160K for low floor, rm170K for high floor.

however, having said that....there's still no guarantee this unit will still be sold out due to maintenance problem, and that is the biggest problem of all that make the issue of security, cleanliness that makes this property hard to appreciate...
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 21 2012, 04:04 PM)
this price is not from me, from property valuer :

850 sqft = rm120K for low floor, 130K for high floor.

1080 sqft = rm160K for low floor, rm170K for high floor.

however, having said that....there's still no guarantee this unit will still be sold out due to maintenance problem, and that is the biggest problem of all that make the issue of security, cleanliness that makes this property hard to appreciate...
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Solaris Dutamas is good.
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ May 21 2012, 04:10 PM)
Solaris Dutamas is good.
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why is it good ? explain more detail pls.......
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 21 2012, 04:04 PM)
this price is not from me, from property valuer :

850 sqft = rm120K for low floor, 130K for high floor.

1080 sqft = rm160K for low floor, rm170K for high floor.

however, having said that....there's still no guarantee this unit will still be sold out due to maintenance problem, and that is the biggest problem of all that make the issue of security, cleanliness that makes this property hard to appreciate...
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No, what i'm mean in your perception of the property condition.

How much would you pay for that kind of property if you interested ?


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why is it good ? explain more detail pls.......
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we have got a spammer n a dik head replying the spammer!

awesome.

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:35 PM)
I can get 4 bankers to give me valuation of RM160K.


Sell it to them then smile.gif

QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 16 2012, 10:35 PM)
Most important now this property giving me positive cash flow. I don't lose anything here. Even if i let go now at the price of as you say RM130K, i still make some.


I don't know if anyone will pay even 120K for it. Not when there are better ones at around the same price. Valuation is one thing, actually getting someone to buy it, is another.

I was just there a few months ago, was considering it too. Then it rained, and I saw all the ceilings leak. Then I saw the signs in the shops that say the toilets don't work because there's no water.

That and the lack of security and the dirt and the lack of lighting, imagine what this place is like, even driving on the approach road would be scary, there are no street lamps tongue.gif

This would be a cool place if they didn't charge maintenance. Whether it will go up depends on what price you bought it at. It's not a place you actually want to stay in though, imagine getting stuck in the lift during a power failure, good luck to you then smile.gif


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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 21 2012, 05:44 PM)
we have got a spammer n a dik head replying the spammer!

awesome.

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We're having civilized conversation here and your manner of reply just irritate me.

I know you hate the place and I'm understand. We got your point. So stop irritate all other people comments here.

Is it so hard to reply properly. We not here to cari gaduh you know.
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 21 2012, 06:55 PM)
We're having civilized conversation here and your manner of reply just irritate me.

I know you hate the place and I'm understand. We got your point. So stop irritate all other people comments here.

Is it so hard to reply properly. We not here to cari gaduh you know.
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tel it to the arsehole who mentioned solaris here

wtf?
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QUOTE(HouLanSaiLei @ May 21 2012, 08:36 PM)
tel it to the arsehole who mentioned solaris here

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then you should quote the seremban guy la, dont quote shaq pulak...people might mistaken what you try to mean.
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 21 2012, 05:33 PM)
No, what i'm mean in your perception of the property condition.

How much would you pay for that kind of property if you interested ?
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to be honest, i will pay lower, definitely much lower(rm110K+5k for renovation & rm150k + 8K for renovation)...you see, this property has no problem in terms of location. But, the location factor is being overshadowed by 2 very important factor that is the management and low cost unit. who want to buy an apartment that even after paying maintenance, still have to suffer water supply cut, car theft, unable to resolve water leaking issues, lift not functioning well, foreigners easily go from low cost to middle cost units(and obviously steal things)....it means, actually what really happen to the monthly maintenance money ?

and the low cost unit, since it is cheap and affordable, the investors there dont care and they simply rent to anyone, especially africans because africans can pay....of course those who are willing to rent to them wont know where their "money" comes from, whether it is halal or not lah. banglas or indons or vietnamese. You see, such people have a different mentality, they are from poor countries, so they are used to living roughly...so, at the end, this is also connected to the lack if security. If this property hired from a security company, im very sure the security guard will do something. imagine 77 * 1K unit, how much already 1 month ? rm77K 1 month, that's A LOT and A LOT CAN BE DONE, but look at the condition ? it doesnt need a genius to point out, people are not doing their job because someone else swallow the money that is supposed to be paid.

doing audit on the account should "expose" something. But usually, the most easiest way for management is to say the account book is missing... wink.gif and you know, "something greedy" has happened a lot of times, because the residents LET IT HAPPEN.


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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 21 2012, 05:58 PM)
Sell it to them then smile.gif >>> great answer !

I don't know if anyone will pay even 120K for it. Not when there are better ones at around the same price. Valuation is one thing, actually getting someone to buy it, is another. >>> can you at least list it down so that people know you are quoting real property ?

I was just there a few months ago, was considering it too. Then it rained, and I saw all the ceilings leak. Then I saw the signs in the shops that say the toilets don't work because there's no water. >>> yup that is bad. basic necessity must never be overlook.

That and the lack of security and the dirt and the lack of lighting, imagine what this place is like, even driving on the approach road would be scary, there are no street lamps tongue.gif

This would be a cool place if they didn't charge maintenance. Whether it will go up depends on what price you bought it at. It's not a place you actually want to stay in though, imagine getting stuck in the lift during a power failure, good luck to you then smile.gif
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Added on May 21, 2012, 9:44 pmi think there's another thing i might said it before but didnt emphasized it...since this flora damansara is behind bukit, there's also tendency to happen tanah runtuh ya....you guys need to be aware of this...
another very important point...

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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 21 2012, 09:21 PM)
to be honest, i will pay lower, definitely much lower(rm110K+5k for renovation & rm150k + 8K for renovation)...you see, this property has no problem in terms of location. But, the location factor is being overshadowed by 2 very important factor that is the management and low cost unit. who want to buy an apartment that even after paying maintenance, still have to suffer water supply cut, car theft, unable to resolve water leaking issues, lift not functioning well, foreigners easily go from low cost to middle cost units(and obviously steal things)....it means, actually what really happen to the monthly maintenance money ?

and the low cost unit, since it is cheap and affordable, the investors there dont care and they simply rent to anyone, especially africans because africans can pay....of course those who are willing to rent to them wont know where their "money" comes from, whether it is halal or not lah. banglas or indons or vietnamese. You see, such people have a different mentality, they are from poor countries, so they are used to living roughly...so, at the end, this is also connected to the lack if security. If this property hired from a security company, im very sure the security guard will do something. imagine 77 * 1K unit, how much already 1 month ? rm77K 1 month, that's A LOT and A LOT CAN BE DONE, but look at the condition ? it doesnt need a genius to point out, people are not doing their job because someone else swallow the money that is supposed to be paid.

doing audit on the account should "expose" something. But usually, the most easiest way for management is to say the account book is missing...  wink.gif and you know, "something greedy" has happened a lot of times, because the residents LET IT HAPPEN.


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Added on May 21, 2012, 9:44 pmi think there's another thing i might said it before but didnt emphasized it...since this flora damansara is behind bukit, there's also tendency to happen tanah runtuh ya....you guys need to be aware of this...
another very important point...
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i think the price need to be excluded from lelong prices ya...lelong prices are being "managed" by banks...so it isnt real lelong at all in Malaysia smile.gif
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i'm sorry but it jsut funny to request 160k for this kind of property. been living there for quite sometimes. seriously its not even worth 130k. sometimes, the truth hurts you sad.gif
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doh.gif

Why you hammer me so hard infront of everybody? doh.gif

I know shaquenator by PM (Chit Chat) and his friend by phone.

I join Lowyat at September 2008 and shaquenator guaranteer join longer than you. laugh.gif

My mind was introducing her a good property related to past conversation.

I think I did wrong if moderator(boss) give me warning and chock slam me. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ May 22 2012, 09:39 AM)
doh.gif

Why you hammer me so hard infront of everybody?  doh.gif

I know shaquenator by PM (Chit Chat) and his friend by phone.

I join Lowyat at September 2008 and shaquenator guaranteer join longer than you.  laugh.gif

My mind was introducing her a good property related to past conversation.

I think I did wrong if moderator(boss) give me warning and chock slam me.  laugh.gif
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we have PM before but please we dont know each other, PM is the avenue we chat before. Please dont give people the impression that we know each other. and yes, you are very rude to introduce something in the midst of this discussion, I know you want to get comission but please dont do that.


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i'm sorry but it jsut funny to request 160k for this kind of property. been living there for quite sometimes. seriously its not even worth 130k. sometimes, the truth hurts you sad.gif
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if only the property owner knows this and also agents(which is always good at bullshitting)...sometimes, some people just dont make sense. as I said before, doesnt mean all property will make profits.

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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ May 22 2012, 02:56 AM)
i'm sorry but it jsut funny to request 160k for this kind of property. been living there for quite sometimes. seriously its not even worth 130k. sometimes, the truth hurts you sad.gif
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Notices that flora damansara iproperty listing have gone up in recent week.

Maybe everyone have its own different taste?
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doh.gif

Why you hammer me so hard infront of everybody?  doh.gif

I know shaquenator by PM (Chit Chat) and his friend by phone.

I join Lowyat at September 2008 and shaquenator guaranteer join longer than you.  laugh.gif

My mind was introducing her a good property related to past conversation.

I think I did wrong if moderator(boss) give me warning and chock slam me.  laugh.gif
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Notices  that flora damansara iproperty listing have gone up in recent week.

Maybe everyone have its own different taste?
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if it is iproperty, then maybe the agents (as usual, it's not that you dont know them) will still hike irregardless of what you say. some people are too money minded, they forget their property already. i mean they interpret as whatever negative things that purchaser buy is intended to make the price down...so they will stubbornly hike the price.

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Dear all,

I have been staying there for two years -- still renting a unit there. It is Block H -- the so called newest block.

The following are something that I would like to share out for potential investors or buyers for own stay purpose.


1) I did compare MKLAND's projects including Metropolitan, Perdana Exclusive, Flora Damansara etc. Of course, Flora Damansara is the worst -- maybe due to its "medium cost" range.

2) Management proposed to install smart access system (for medium cost) and improve the parking system (mostly for the low cost blocks). If it were to complete these two projects, then I think Flora has no doubt to be appreciated a lot. WHat I think/feel is does everyone staying there pay maintenance fee? First, Management must collect the $$ and quickly install the system. The Flora becomes more secured. And in future, it is easier for management to collect maintainence fee -- no paying no access.

It is not a blank talk as management has proposed these two projects quite a long time. I am not the staff -- I don;t know what happened afterwards. But i guess it could be due to the high cost incurred or protest from residents. So until now, no update yet.

3) Block H has 5 lifts -- but 1 lift is broken. Anyway, 4 lifts are gam gam to support the massive use.

4) Security wise -- Guard has done their patrol a few times per day, including the covered parking. But never saw them appearing at the resident corridors (i think this one quite common in some other condo/apartment, right?). But IT IS NOT ENOUGH, frankly. The best way is to install the smart access card system, not only from the parking, but from lobby too. (Maybe I am too ambitious, but at least management has proposed to install the system)

At this moment, especially during the night time, if my wife wants to go out, i will normally accompany her to go down the car park. Daytime, I do not. Personal opinion, still do not advise girls/ladies to go out alone at night. Who knows what happened next..


5) Hmm... still depends on our affordability.. If our budget is only less than 200k, then we can never go to all those high-end condo or landed pro. And then if u want to stay at damansara area, then looks like flora is the only choice. If I am afford to buy a ferrari, why I go to buy a kancil.

6) Water Disruption happened quite frequently recently. But it was repaired very fast too.

Speak too long. In short, to investors:

i) Definitely flora will appreciate due to its nice location and the development surrounding it (more ppl staying/working here -- but not everyone afford to by high-end condo). No many choices for a budget less than 200k, right? So it is either good buy or good bye. Put $$ in REIT would also be quite nice. Try to take a look on Pavillion REIT. From 90 cents becomes RM1.20, in a short time... LOL.. I feel regret as I did not buy it...

ii) If the parking system and smart access card system are successfully built, then appreciation would be much higher. But at that time, i think it is already quite expensive.





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Dear all,

I have been staying there for two years -- still renting a unit there. It is Block H -- the so called newest block.

The following are something that I would like to share out for potential investors or buyers for own stay purpose.
1) I did compare MKLAND's projects including Metropolitan, Perdana Exclusive, Flora Damansara etc. Of course, Flora Damansara is the worst -- maybe due to its "medium cost" range.

2) Management proposed to install smart access system (for medium cost) and improve the parking system (mostly for the low cost blocks). If it were to complete these two projects, then I think Flora has no doubt to be appreciated a lot.  WHat I think/feel is does everyone staying there pay maintenance fee? First, Management must collect the $$ and quickly install the system. The Flora becomes more secured. And in future, it is easier for management to collect maintainence fee -- no paying no access.

It is not a blank talk as management has proposed these two projects quite a long time. I am not the staff -- I don;t know what happened afterwards. But i guess it could be due to the high cost incurred or protest from residents. So until now, no update yet.

3) Block H has 5 lifts -- but 1 lift is broken. Anyway, 4 lifts are gam gam to support the massive use.

4) Security wise -- Guard has done their patrol a few times per day, including the covered parking. But never saw them appearing at the resident corridors (i think this one quite common in some other condo/apartment, right?). But IT IS NOT ENOUGH, frankly. The best way is to install the smart access card system, not only from the parking, but from lobby too. (Maybe I am too ambitious, but at least management has proposed to install the system)

At this moment, especially during the night time, if my wife wants to go out, i will normally accompany her to go down the car park. Daytime, I do not. Personal opinion, still do not advise girls/ladies to go out alone at night. Who knows what happened next..
5) Hmm... still depends on our affordability.. If our budget is only less than 200k, then we can never go to all those high-end condo or landed pro. And then if u want to stay at damansara area, then looks like flora is the only choice. If I am afford to buy a ferrari, why I go to buy a kancil.

6) Water Disruption happened quite frequently recently. But it was repaired very fast too.

Speak too long. In short, to investors:

i) Definitely flora will appreciate due to its nice location and the development surrounding it (more ppl staying/working here -- but not everyone afford to by high-end condo). No many choices for a budget less than 200k, right? So it is either good buy or good bye. Put $$ in REIT would also be quite nice. Try to take a look on Pavillion REIT. From 90 cents becomes RM1.20, in a short time... LOL.. I feel regret as I did not buy it...

ii) If the parking system and smart access card system are successfully built, then appreciation would be much higher. But at that time, i think it is already quite expensive.
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I actually feel much better after reading this. cry.gif

At least your points, you state ways to improve. Not just shooting down the property. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I wonder why no one expand their radar a little bit further to Bandar Sri Damansara after Penchala toll.
You can get plentiful apartments for less than RM250,000.
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[quote=kbandito,May 22 2012, 06:50 PM]I wonder why no one expand their radar a little bit further to Bandar Sri Damansara after Penchala toll.
You can get plentiful apartments for less than RM250,000.
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any names ? are these apartment good for rental ? or at least in good condition ? are there any public transport ?


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Dear all,

I have been staying there for two years -- still renting a unit there. It is Block H -- the so called newest block.

The following are something that I would like to share out for potential investors or buyers for own stay purpose.
1) I did compare MKLAND's projects including Metropolitan, Perdana Exclusive, Flora Damansara etc. Of course, Flora Damansara is the worst -- maybe due to its "medium cost" range.

you got it right. in fact much worst...

2) Management proposed to install smart access system (for medium cost) and improve the parking system (mostly for the low cost blocks). If it were to complete these two projects, then I think Flora has no doubt to be appreciated a lot. WHat I think/feel is does everyone staying there pay maintenance fee? First, Management must collect the $$ and quickly install the system. The Flora becomes more secured. And in future, it is easier for management to collect maintainence fee -- no paying no access.

It is not a blank talk as management has proposed these two projects quite a long time. I am not the staff -- I don;t know what happened afterwards. But i guess it could be due to the high cost incurred or protest from residents. So until now, no update yet.

the point is since it is long time and still havent implement yet, what makes you think it will implement in the near future ? it's a stuck-up situation.

3) Block H has 5 lifts -- but 1 lift is broken. Anyway, 4 lifts are gam gam to support the massive use.

this is very dangerous, dont you think ? i mean who knows one day one of the lift got jammed ?

4) Security wise -- Guard has done their patrol a few times per day, including the covered parking. But never saw them appearing at the resident corridors (i think this one quite common in some other condo/apartment, right?). But IT IS NOT ENOUGH, frankly. The best way is to install the smart access card system, not only from the parking, but from lobby too. (Maybe I am too ambitious, but at least management has proposed to install the system)

yes, it is not enough especially if the medium is beside low cost, which is full of foreigners.

At this moment, especially during the night time, if my wife wants to go out, i will normally accompany her to go down the car park. Daytime, I do not. Personal opinion, still do not advise girls/ladies to go out alone at night. Who knows what happened next..
5) Hmm... still depends on our affordability.. If our budget is only less than 200k, then we can never go to all those high-end condo or landed pro. And then if u want to stay at damansara area, then looks like flora is the only choice. If I am afford to buy a ferrari, why I go to buy a kancil.

somehow, woman not suitable live here, unless big fat aunties...

6) Water Disruption happened quite frequently recently. But it was repaired very fast too.

still it happens, right ? if it is efficient, it wont happen in the first place.

Speak too long. In short, to investors:

i) Definitely flora will appreciate due to its nice location and the development surrounding it (more ppl staying/working here -- but not everyone afford to by high-end condo). No many choices for a budget less than 200k, right? So it is either good buy or good bye. Put $$ in REIT would also be quite nice. Try to take a look on Pavillion REIT. From 90 cents becomes RM1.20, in a short time... LOL.. I feel regret as I did not buy it...

at the moment, it is goodbye.

ii) If the parking system and smart access card system are successfully built, then appreciation would be much higher. But at that time, i think it is already quite expensive.

if it is built, then only talk lah, else dream on...

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I wonder why no one expand their radar a little bit further to Bandar Sri Damansara after Penchala toll.
You can get plentiful apartments for less than RM250,000.
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Hmm.. I think two reasons: Toll and price. No matter how, flora costs around 120k -- ???.


Added on May 23, 2012, 10:59 am

We need to compare the price and it depends on our affordability too. Metropolitan costs 600k++ (new phase -- block D). Definitely can imagine it would have better environment, facility and structure. The Rafflesia costs more than million and looks like the residents never complain their security, facility etc...

I stayed in low-cost house in my kampung when i was a child. If compared to the bungalow next to the low-cost units, of course all the low-cost units are "slum". We always said "one low-cost unit is only equivalent to one toilet in the bungalow..." doh.gif

As to the flora, I would say same concepts. So my two cents: no point to compare flora with those high end properties.

But, we SHOULD COMPARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALMOST THE SAME VALUE.

For instance, if there is an apartment in sri damansara that has same value as flora but better environment and condition, then we should really give up flora, but to invest in that apartment (with the affordable price) -- which I am really interested too... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif



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Since its good location....but terrible managed...therefore the condo is lowly priced.......

We set up an investment community then we tarpau unit by unit...then re-pain..change management, etc,,,..kick out those no good tenant.....
etc.....


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Hmm.. I think two reasons: Toll and price. No matter how, flora costs around 120k -- ???.


Added on May 23, 2012, 10:59 am

We need to compare the price and it depends on our affordability too. Metropolitan costs 600k++ (new phase -- block D). Definitely can imagine it would have better environment, facility and structure. The Rafflesia costs more than million and looks like the residents never complain their security, facility etc...

of course ler, else something is wrong with the people already.

I stayed in low-cost house in my kampung when i was a child. If compared to the bungalow next to the low-cost units, of course all the low-cost units are "slum". We always said "one low-cost unit is only equivalent to one toilet in the bungalow..."  doh.gif 

As to the flora, I would say same concepts. So my two cents: no point to compare flora with those high end properties.

But, we SHOULD COMPARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALMOST THE SAME VALUE.

agree

For instance, if there is an apartment in sri damansara that has same value as flora but better environment and condition, then we should really give up flora, but to invest in that apartment (with the affordable price) -- which I am really interested too...  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif

do you have any idea which apartment is comparable to flora damansara ?

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Added on May 24, 2012, 12:08 ambetween, for those of you who always refer to iproperty or propwall or any property website, beware of agents tactics, all of them will simply post a "very expensive" or "much lower" pricing for this property, this actually is to attract your attention(and confuse you as well because they will put the highest price let's say rm220K and the lower price is higher than the current price let's say rm150K so that you can call the rm150K thinking you already the best deal, BUT YOU ARE BEING CHEATED), BUT when you telephone them, they will say it's sold out. AND they will introduce another unit to you, with much more higher prices. so, please be aware when you are using the "online" website, please see the pricing with a pinch of salt.

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Added on May 24, 2012, 12:08 amdo you have any idea which apartment is comparable to flora damansara ?
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Pelangi Damansara ? hmm.gif

Last time i got thought to enter there.

But don't like the Jam in KD. doh.gif
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Pelangi Damansara ?  hmm.gif

Last time i got thought to enter there.

But don't like the Jam in KD.  doh.gif
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Do you mean Pelangi Damansara condo or flat?

If it is condo, then the price is about RM300k++

If it is flat, then the price less than RM100k (equivalent to Flora Block A and B).

As to security wise, there is no security in Pelangi Flat.


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Do you mean Pelangi Damansara condo or flat?

If it is condo, then the price is about RM300k++

If it is flat, then the price less than RM100k (equivalent to Flora Block A and B).

As to security wise, there is no security in Pelangi Flat.
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Block E is flat or condo ? hmm.gif

That time i saw is RM150K.
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Block E is flat or condo ?  hmm.gif

That time i saw is RM150K.
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I'm not sure myself.

But can get more info here : http://www.propwall.my/bandar_utama/pelangi_damansara
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If u really need to find below 200k property, maybe u can consider Aman Satu or dua at sri damansara. The apartment not bad, well keep, major is Chinese.
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that sounds like near Kepong. is this a low cost development ?

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For someone at my workplace asking my opinion about Flora Damansara.

1) Age 25
2) Work at Damansara Perdana
3) Salary 3,150 Finance Executive
4) 2 years working with current employer after finished UTAR.
5) Currently renting a room at Kepong Rm400.00 per month
6) Have some saving Rm20,000
7) Have one Kancil car
8) Worry that not able to buy a place to live. That why plan to buy now or never.
9) Bf is working with IPC
10) Plan to live for min 10 years


1) Should she buy a unit of Flora Damansara?
2) How much she should buy ? the 80K or the 150k?
3) Which type ? Facing hill or Facing Damansara Perdana ?


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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 25 2012, 09:43 AM)
For someone at my workplace asking my opinion about Flora Damansara.

1) Age 25
2) Work at Damansara Perdana
3) Salary 3,150  Finance Executive
4) 2 years working with current employer after finished UTAR.
5) Currently renting a room  at Kepong Rm400.00 per month
6) Have some saving Rm20,000
7) Have one Kancil car
8) Worry that not able to buy a place to live. That why plan to buy now or never.
9) Bf is working with IPC
10) Plan to live for min 10 years
1) Should she buy a unit of Flora Damansara?
2) How much she should buy ? the 80K or the 150k?
3) Which type ? Facing hill or Facing Damansara Perdana ?
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if you seriously dont believe how terrible the condition is EVEN after the pictures took, then I suggest you to visit the place PERSONALLY. If she decided to buy because in future it's going to be expensive, then she is just being desperate, and being desperate will land you in STUPID DEALS, because those agents are there to detect your desperatesness and then COUNT ON THE FEELING to deceive her of the price. the 2 prices that you mention is it between low cost ones & medium cost ones ? if so, the prices are just too high...
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if you seriously dont believe how terrible the condition is EVEN after the pictures took, then I suggest you to visit the place PERSONALLY. If she decided to buy because in future it's going to be expensive, then she is just being desperate, and being desperate will land you in STUPID DEALS, because those agents are there to detect your desperatesness and then COUNT ON THE FEELING to deceive her of the price. the 2 prices that you mention is it between low cost ones & medium cost ones ? if so, the prices are just too high...
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I'm not really sure if i agree on the terribleness of FD like what you're trying to explain. I own one unit there in block d and having rented out for almost 3 years now. I think it is still acceptable to live there depending on any disturbances which might occur near your unit. My unit is on the higher floor and I never received complaints from my tennant about such disturbances ie : loud noise at night, peaple throw garbage everywhere. I have seen similar places to FD which has much worst condition. I like to take risk and I sincerely think the risk that i take by investing in FD will sooner or later benefits me.
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Any review or comment on Aman Satu/Dua? Sounds interesting. rclxms.gif
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I'm not really sure if i agree on the terribleness of FD like what you're trying to explain. I own one unit there in block d and having rented out for almost 3 years now. I think it is still acceptable to live there depending on any disturbances which might occur near your unit. My unit is on the higher floor and I never received complaints from my tennant about such disturbances ie : loud noise at night, peaple throw garbage everywhere. I have seen similar places to FD which has much worst condition. I like to take risk and I sincerely think the risk that i take by investing in FD will sooner or later benefits me.
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richsense, whether you reap the benefot from that investment or not, that's your business. Having said that, even if you are saying that you received less or none complaints at all, again that IS ONLY YOU. Not everyone is blind, after looking at the pictures posted. So, I suggest you better keep your suggestion of taking the risk to yourself instead of making a recommendation that as if what the others are saying is wrong. and seeing that you have vested interests, it is more vague to believe what you say.
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richsense, whether you reap the benefot from that investment or not, that's your business. Having said that, even if you are saying that you received less or none complaints at all, again that IS ONLY YOU. Not everyone is blind, after looking at the pictures posted. So, I suggest you better keep your suggestion of taking the risk to yourself instead of making a recommendation that as if what the others are saying is wrong. and seeing that you have vested interests, it is more vague to believe what you say.
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As it is a low-medium cost building, it might have certain issues -- and less secure if compared to the high end/cost building. If Aman Dua has better security, go for it.

For investment vise, if you believe that flora will boost up due to the development of empire damansara and empire city , and proposal on the smart access and parking system, just wait and see -- higher risk, higher return, vice versa -- simple: if all really going smooth, the value increases, it becomes no more "slum", there u earn a lot; if not, after 10 years, u may still see ppl criticizing it, and it is still a low-cost building.

I stayed there about 2 years, and , touchwood, nothing happened. There was a forumer saying that 40 cars stolen a month, raping case per month (or week , have forgotten) etc... Wonder where the news comes from? Touchwood again, i parked my car, my neighbour parked their cars. Hmm... with this statistic/data, looks like all the cars should be disappear..?!? But if it is really true, i will pindah on the spot... I did see BMW, Mazda, when I moved in. At this moment, the BMW, Mazda sport car still there. Do not ask me why such rich man buy a low-medium house... Car is more expensive than the house... LOL...

There is not conflict of interest to me -- i do not own any house there, but just rent a unit there. And what i wrote was just from my experience, not to represent the entire block... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 25 2012, 09:43 AM)
For someone at my workplace asking my opinion about Flora Damansara.

1) Age 25
2) Work at Damansara Perdana
3) Salary 3,150  Finance Executive
4) 2 years working with current employer after finished UTAR.
5) Currently renting a room  at Kepong Rm400.00 per month
6) Have some saving Rm20,000
7) Have one Kancil car
8) Worry that not able to buy a place to live. That why plan to buy now or never.
9) Bf is working with IPC
10) Plan to live for min 10 years
1) Should she buy a unit of Flora Damansara?
2) How much she should buy ? the 80K or the 150k?
3) Which type ? Facing hill or Facing Damansara Perdana ?
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It depends whether she wants to use for own stay or for investment (hmm.. 10 years, i think it is consider own use). If for own use, my advise is try to look at a better place, if budget is ok. I think Armanee Condo or Park Avenue or even the latest one One Damansara should be much better.

If for investment, short term living, Flora is a high risk -- high return (and vise versa) properties. It depends on the security improvement and quality of management. Now the development around Damansara Perdana definitely increases its value. And it needs to boost up itself by improving its internal factors, like management, security etc...



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If u really need to find below 200k property, maybe u can consider Aman Satu or dua at sri damansara. The apartment not bad, well keep, major is Chinese.
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Any review or comment on Aman Satu/Dua? Sounds interesting. rclxms.gif
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Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua


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[quote=richsense,May 25 2012, 12:10 PM]I'm not really sure if i agree on the terribleness of FD like what you're trying to explain. I own one unit there in block d and having rented out for almost 3 years now. I think it is still acceptable to live there depending on any disturbances which might occur near your unit. My unit is on the higher floor and I never received complaints from my tennant about such disturbances ie : loud noise at night, peaple throw garbage everywhere. I have seen similar places to FD which has much worst condition. I like to take risk and I sincerely think the risk that i take by investing in FD will sooner or later benefits me.
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Yes, i got good tenancy income too.

Apparently most my units being rented out is by executive position.

They told me they like FD because of the location and rental is cheap. laugh.gif

Hope can meet you in FD AGM sometime.


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:49 pm[quote=ahbaoahbao,May 25 2012, 02:02 PM]As it is a low-medium cost building, it might have certain issues -- and less secure if compared to the high end/cost building. If Aman Dua has better security, go for it.

For investment vise, if you believe that flora will boost up due to the development of empire damansara and empire city , and  proposal on the smart access and parking system, just wait and see -- higher risk, higher return, vice versa -- simple: if all really going smooth, the value increases, it becomes no more "slum", there u earn a lot; if not, after 10 years, u may still see ppl criticizing it, and it is still a low-cost building.

I stayed there about 2 years, and , touchwood, nothing happened. There was a forumer saying that 40 cars stolen a month, raping case per month (or week , have forgotten) etc... Wonder where the news comes from? Touchwood again, i parked my car, my neighbour parked their cars. Hmm... with this statistic/data, looks like all the cars should be disappear..?!? But if it is really true, i will pindah on the spot... I did see BMW, Mazda, when I moved in. At this moment, the BMW, Mazda sport car still there. Do not ask me why such rich man buy a low-medium house... Car is more expensive than the house... LOL...

There is not conflict of interest to me -- i do not own any house there, but just rent a unit there. And what i wrote was just from my experience, not to represent the entire block...  tongue.gif
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I also heard got no such news at there.

All i see a lot of black people but they just hang around at the lobby chit-chatting.

I also saw a lot luxury car park at there. hmm.gif That is other story of course. laugh.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:51 pm[quote=ahbaoahbao,May 25 2012, 02:02 PM]It depends whether she wants to use for own stay or for investment (hmm.. 10 years, i think it is consider own use). If for own use, my advise is try to look at a better place, if budget is ok. I think Armanee Condo or Park Avenue or even the latest one One Damansara should be much better.

If for investment, short term living, Flora is a high risk -- high return (and vise versa) properties. It depends on the security improvement and quality of management. Now the development around Damansara Perdana definitely increases its value. And it needs to boost up itself by improving its internal factors, like management, security etc...
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If got budget and prefer for own stay than One Damansara really not bad.

From what i think la. hmm.gif


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Any review or comment on Aman Satu/Dua? Sounds interesting. rclxms.gif
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Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua
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I checked the link like really not bad.

Plus got swimming pool some more. Wonder whats the maintenance fees.

Anyone here stay at Aman Dua ?

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Yes, i got good tenancy income too.

Apparently most my units being rented out is by executive position.

They told me they like FD because of the location and rental is cheap. laugh.gif

Hope can meet you in FD AGM sometime.


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Sure. smile.gif


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I agree with some of u. The apt in BSD will be a better deal. The price of that apt might surge slowly also after the nearby D.Avenue/Foresta is completed in 3 years time or so.



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Any review or comment on Aman Satu/Dua? Sounds interesting. rclxms.gif
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Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua
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true, no way man. those who keep promoting FD seems so desperate...sigh.

I think these days the owners there also desperate want to prove to people that got people "rent" their unit lah, or got ppl sold out at that price lah...aiyah, sometimes when we say out that property is not so good, those who is owner there, as the malay says, siapa yang makan cili dia lah yang terasa pedas.

as for me(and the others), im very confident of what we say...we dont say it because of to bring the price down, but it is really the truth. and this confirms my statement, when last week, one of my friends says want to buy there. I told him all the things I said in this forum. He dont believe, PJ address wat.

Last Friday, he sms me, for the first time, he thought what I said is correct. rclxms.gif sigh, owners or agents sure will say good things loh, obviously what, the owner money is already invested there, agent the more high price the more comission. think people, think !


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I agree with some of u. The apt in BSD will be a better deal. The price of that apt might surge slowly also after the nearby D.Avenue/Foresta is completed in 3 years time or so.
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sorry, what is BSD ?


Added on May 26, 2012, 1:13 pm[quote=Alvinyeo,May 25 2012, 04:48 PM]
Yes, i got good tenancy income too.

Apparently most my units being rented out is by executive position.

They told me they like FD because of the location and rental is cheap. laugh.gif

Hope can meet you in FD AGM sometime.


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I also heard got no such news at there.

All i see a lot of black people but they just hang around at the lobby chit-chatting.

I also saw a lot luxury car park at there. hmm.gif That is other story of course. laugh.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:51 pm

If got budget and prefer for own stay than One Damansara really not bad.

From what i think la. hmm.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 4:53 pm
Aman dua is medium cost apartment (same as FD) + Freehold (FD is leasehold)), I know this place because my friend stay over there.

The building was well kept and major of residents is Chinese. (What i heard for her).

In between of FD and Aman Dua, i will go for Aman Dua. Unless, FD change their image and make me feel more comfortable then i will consider grab one of two units, otherwise no way lah.

Below is a review for Aman Dua.

http://www.propwall.my/kepong/aman_dua
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I checked the link like really not bad.

Plus got swimming pool some more. Wonder whats the maintenance fees.

Anyone here stay at Aman Dua ?
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actually true also you never heard before those news, but let's say imagine someone is being rape, do you want all your neighbours know ? even one of the forumers said, the police who come to investigate cant do much. if got theft, do you tell the whole neighbourhood your things got stolen ? car got stolen if you tell the management, would you benefit anything ?

let's put it this way, at the end of the day, those who keep saying this property is good obviously have something of their interest there. for those who critised, obviously they arent lying, especially the guy who posted the pictures in this forum for you to "see". whether you got "executive" who rented your unit or not, doesnt matter. what matters is how long will they keep renting there wink.gif FD is afterall a gamble...those who already stuck there, they must do everything to protect their interests. they didnt thought the management will be such a nuisance...

talk is cheap, so when people really see the tangible things...they will finally come to their sense what those who always critised are talking about.

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I agree with some of u. The apt in BSD will be a better deal. The price of that apt might surge slowly also after the nearby D.Avenue/Foresta is completed in 3 years time or so.
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sorry which apt in bsd are you referring to ?

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went there last weekend, as me & my friends are visiting ikea. so thought of just dropping by to see for myself what this forumers say is it true or not. i think the pictures are definitely real biggrin.gif
the security guard like with or without them is fine to be honest. when i was at the lift, this place looks the same like the low cost ones...hhmmm, dont think it is really worth as high as what the owners in this forum say...i see some of the agents putting rm150K for the 850 sqft, i really was WTF.
the area is indeed very dim, and definitely dangerous, especially for woman. then i think in the end, ive decided this place is indeed not worth it(the feel doesnt make you feel happy when going to buy this property). the development might make it sound nice, but dont know if that's going to help anyway. ok, now i know who is telling the truth...hehehe

oh between, this place is not that near to ikea lah. the drive is around 10 mins not 5 mins! some more no public tansport, not even rapidkl... doh.gif

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QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ May 25 2012, 02:02 PM)
As it is a low-medium cost building, it might have certain issues -- and less secure if compared to the high end/cost building. If Aman Dua has better security, go for it. >>> agreed.

For investment vise, if you believe that flora will boost up due to the development of empire damansara and empire city , and  proposal on the smart access and parking system, just wait and see -- higher risk, higher return, vice versa -- simple: if all really going smooth, the value increases, it becomes no more "slum", there u earn a lot; if not, after 10 years, u may still see ppl criticizing it, and it is still a low-cost building.

>>> as one of the forumer said, it is either good buy or goodbye. in the current situation, it is goodbye. sometimes Im wondering myself, if the people who own it already so kan cheong to sell it off, im really surprise to see there are people who keep saying can rent out. rent out might not be a problem, but who is renting from you is another thing. as I said, this development is a goodbye at the moment.

I stayed there about 2 years, and , touchwood, nothing happened. There was a forumer saying that 40 cars stolen a month, raping case per month (or week , have forgotten) etc... Wonder where the news comes from? Touchwood again, i parked my car, my neighbour parked their cars. Hmm... with this statistic/data, looks like all the cars should be disappear..?!? But if it is really true, i will pindah on the spot... I did see BMW, Mazda, when I moved in. At this moment, the BMW, Mazda sport car still there. Do not ask me why such rich man buy a low-medium house... Car is more expensive than the house... LOL...

>>> mind to point to me which forumer says that 40 cars stolen ? ( PLS DONT EXXAGERATE AND MAKE THOSE WHO CRITISED LOOK BAD) ya, I also wonder where the news come from. Im waititng for you to quote that person who says 40 cars got stolen in this forum....rich man ? for all you know they are thief in disguise...beware.

There is not conflict of interest to me -- i do not own any house there, but just rent a unit there. And what i wrote was just from my experience, not to represent the entire block...  tongue.gif


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It depends whether she wants to use for own stay or for investment (hmm.. 10 years, i think it is consider own use). If for own use, my advise is try to look at a better place, if budget is ok. I think Armanee Condo or Park Avenue or even the latest one One Damansara should be much better.

If for investment, short term living, Flora is a high risk -- high return (and vise versa) properties. It depends on the security improvement and quality of management. Now the development around Damansara Perdana definitely increases its value. And it needs to boost up itself by improving its internal factors, like management, security etc...

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QUOTE(sakura888 @ May 26 2012, 02:06 PM)
went there last weekend, as me & my friends are visiting ikea. so thought of just dropping by to see for myself what this forumers say is it true or not. i think the pictures are definitely real biggrin.gif
the security guard like with or without them is fine to be honest. when i was at the lift, this place looks the same like the low cost ones...hhmmm, dont think it is really worth as high as what the owners in this forum say...i see some of the agents putting rm150K for the 850 sqft, i really was WTF.
the area is indeed very dim, and definitely dangerous, especially for woman. then i think in the end, ive decided this place is indeed not worth it(the feel doesnt make you feel happy when going to buy this property). the development might make it sound nice, but dont know if that's going to help anyway. ok, now i know who is telling the truth...hehehe

oh between, this place is not that near to ikea lah. the drive is around 10 mins not 5 mins! some more no public tansport, not even rapidkl... doh.gif
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cool2.gif you've been very kind with your words. so, did you "see" what it means by dirty ? it's basically a malay area place...so, it's dirty from the entrance, up until you go up the unit, right ? when you sit the lift also a bit shaky right ? then when you go to the back of the car park you saw the back of the building dirty because of the food stalls all also throw their "shit" at the back right ? and when you go along the corridors, you notice the door is very narrow right ? and the list goes on....now you believe those who critise ?

tell you something, not even putting rm150K, some of the owners even believe their units can fetch up to rm300K. i was actually laughing out myself....what happen to people's common sense these days ? and what's ironic, the agent is also agree with me(at the back lah), as we all woman mah, so she told me the truth.

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i see.


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sorry which apt in bsd are you referring to ?
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My reply is with reference to post #233/237.
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iregardless of who you reply to, this person need to ask you to understand your reply to another person, right ? i think u mistaken him that he thinks you replied to him. again, just my observation...
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iregardless of who you reply to, this person need to ask you to understand your reply to another person, right ? i think u mistaken him that he thinks you replied to him. again, just my observation...
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Yes I know what he is asking. The apt he/she wants to know is in earlier post which is #233/237. More details can be found in those posts which is just 1 page before.


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the aman dua in kepong i felt has a very slow appreciation.


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Yes I know what he is asking. The apt he/she wants to know is in earlier post which is #233/237. More details can be found in those posts which is just 1 page before.
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oh ok...

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aman satu aman dua any difference? how many years apt? sorry off topic a bit.
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QUOTE(sakura888 @ May 26 2012, 02:06 PM)
went there last weekend, as me & my friends are visiting ikea. so thought of just dropping by to see for myself what this forumers say is it true or not. i think the pictures are definitely real biggrin.gif
the security guard like with or without them is fine to be honest. when i was at the lift, this place looks the same like the low cost ones...hhmmm, dont think it is really worth as high as what the owners in this forum say...i see some of the agents putting rm150K for the 850 sqft, i really was WTF.
the area is indeed very dim, and definitely dangerous, especially for woman. then i think in the end, ive decided this place is indeed not worth it(the feel doesnt make you feel happy when going to buy this property). the development might make it sound nice, but dont know if that's going to help anyway. ok, now i know who is telling the truth...hehehe

oh between, this place is not that near to ikea lah. the drive is around 10 mins not 5 mins! some more no public tansport, not even rapidkl... doh.gif
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u think the photos i photoshop-ed meh

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cool2.gif you've been very kind with your words. so, did you "see" what it means by dirty ? it's basically a malay area place...so, it's dirty from the entrance, up until you go up the unit, right ? when you sit the lift also a bit shaky right ? then when you go to the back of the car park you saw the back of the building dirty because of the food stalls all also throw their "shit" at the back right ? and when you go along the corridors, you notice the door is very narrow right ?  and the list goes on....now you believe those who critise ?

tell you something, not even putting rm150K, some of the owners even believe their units can fetch up to rm300K. i was actually laughing out myself....what happen to people's common sense these days ? and what's ironic, the agent is also agree with me(at the back lah), as we all woman mah, so she told me the truth.
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ya, those owners are greedy. there's a saying that goes, the money that you got through such ways is used to treat your diseases in future. sometimes, as a human, we shouldnt be too much. but sometimes cant help lah some of these kind of people. it really shows how their real heart is.

to be very honest, those investors may keep saying for taylor's colleage or got theme park, but what they dont realize is the moment you pass by the Flora Damansara gate, it is a community of it's own. and when you go in, you can feel it is a low cost area already, especially at the lower end there at block A & B. if you got that kind of feeling, dont need to even go up further lah....it's already make people felt "dirty" and "insecure"....only desperate people live here.

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ya, those owners are greedy. there's a saying that goes, the money that you got through such ways is used to treat your diseases in future. sometimes, as a human, we shouldnt be too much. but sometimes cant help lah some of these kind of people. it really shows how their real heart is.

to be very honest, those investors may keep saying for taylor's colleage or got theme park, but what they dont realize is the moment you pass by the Flora Damansara gate, it is a community of it's own. and when you go in, you can feel it is a low cost area already, especially at the lower end there at block A & B. if you got that kind of feeling, dont need to even go up further lah....it's already make people felt "dirty" and "insecure"....only desperate people live here.
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I really don't get what kind of grudge you have with the place but it's really not that bad (This has already been argued over and over again). I think this is one of the things we have to agree to disagree.

I understand from your point of view that the property NOW is far from ideal, however looking at Flora Damansara it has hope for improvements and that is what people are investing in the place for. Of course you would not see the shift overnight but it is only a normal process for prices to hike when more investors starts to invest in the place.

Btw, that entrance will also be the entrance for Forest Hill Damansara (semi-ds) which will be build at the end of low cost flats.

Anyway.. just what I notice and my 0.5 cents.

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I really don't get what kind of grudge you have with the place but it's really not that bad (This has already been argued over and over again). I think this is one of the things we have to agree to disagree.

I understand from your point of view that the property NOW is far from ideal, however looking at Flora Damansara it has hope for improvements and that is what people are investing in the place for. Of course you would not see the shift overnight but it is only a normal process for prices to hike when more investors starts to invest in the place.

Btw, that entrance will also be the entrance for Forest Hill Damansara (semi-ds) which will be build at the end of low cost flats.

Anyway.. just what I notice and my 0.5 cents.
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actually it's not even a grudge. it is called the truth. the property now is not just not ideal, it is a low-class & dirty area, and that's an opinion. Maybe after seeing me say this, you might felt hurt(again, Ive been to this place before this year, so Im not simply saying things) it is normal process for place to hike when more investors starts to invest ?

oh man, then those investors must be blind.
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u think the photos i photoshop-ed meh

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no, didnt mean it that way. but there's people who says living here is ok, some really critise it. so need to be fair and make my own judgement not just listen to what people say. in the end, just casually go there, I mean really, the environment there is not nice....didnt know it is really that bad. yes, i agree different people have different perspective, but in this case, I have to agree with the people who critised as what they say really is the truth, and imagine someone sell you a low quality product for a high price, would you accept it ?
i wont. the environment there is really horrfying. the block H is new, but it is behind the hill as I see it. Land slide can happen to be very honest with you. if you have money to invest, here is definitely not the place. besides, bear in mind, economy now is slowing already. so, if really the economy cant sustain, then property this time will really tumble down like falling rain. the prices of property in europe will shock you. UK is going into double dip recession, spain is in recession, greece needs to get out of eurozone alliance though they are still in financial crisis, and US now also has gone back into recession, singapore property is slowing down, so is china....

so, buyers please be very careful with what you buy...there are indeed ppl who buy property lose money.
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>>> mind to point to me which forumer says that 40 cars stolen ? ( PLS DONT EXXAGERATE AND MAKE THOSE WHO CRITISED LOOK BAD) ya, I also wonder where the news come from. Im waititng for you to quote that person who says 40 cars got stolen in this forum....rich man ? for all you know they are thief in disguise...beware.

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Can you check the following link?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1289967/all

post#85...

The statement is:

"Mine was Flora Damansara... recently sold cheap. Terrible place! Good luck in getting higher rental. Crime infested area. 40 cars stolen monthly. Rape cases every week. Fighting every few months."

Hmmm... 40 cars stolen monthly? Rape case weekly? Wonder where the news come from , too...

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Can you check the following link?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1289967/all

post#85...

The statement is:

"Mine was Flora Damansara... recently sold cheap. Terrible place! Good luck in getting higher rental. Crime infested area. 40 cars stolen monthly. Rape cases every week. Fighting every few months."

Hmmm... 40 cars stolen monthly? Rape case weekly? Wonder where the news come from , too...
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but looking at the scene, not a surprise if there's car stolen & woman got rape....the security at it's worst. but 40 cars not sure
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went there last year, to view 2 unit, 1 is block B, another is.. forgotten which block, but i know is last block, which is located on top of the hill. when i was about to enter the lift in block b, there were few negros coming out, then i stop the viewing... when i viewed the last block, the balcony facing hill, with trees like forest.. i can see few indos there... WTF... i cepat cabut....

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me too went to go FD last saturday...on the way to go there the road quite nice and got some construction work there..dont mind that...at the main entrance got 2-3 security but as usual..security in most mid-cost apartment no function at all..also ok for me..then start looking around..block a,b,c,d...look like low-cost apartment...i think ok la since its older than other block...then go up to block at the top hill...new paint and can see its newer than other and environtment ok la...parking also ok got many space...but so near the edge of hill.

i got chance to talk with some pakcik there FD got potential to be 'mini-foreign-village' because its location quite far from public and low rental. i asked the rental price around 600 but can up a bit if u willing to rent to foreign worker..they dont mind share with 10 people in a house.

i dont have any experience to buy a house but for me im not going to buy FD as my first property. just my 1cent.


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QUOTE(lilac @ May 27 2012, 10:24 AM)
I really don't get what kind of grudge you have with the place but it's really not that bad (This has already been argued over and over again). I think this is one of the things we have to agree to disagree.
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I agree with you that Mr. Chipsley has a grudge against Flora Damansara. It’s one thing to point out the bad points about the place (which is actually helpful for potential buyers so they can make informed decisions), it’s quite another to keep harping about it. When someone does so many posts, day after day, you have to wonder what their agenda is. He’s denied having a grudge, and people who can read will make up their own minds.

I’m an ex-FD owner who sold a Block F unit (high floor) in 2010. Bought from the developer in 2002, sold at a loss in 2010, and was happy to sell even at a loss. Before people misunderstand, it’s not that the place was SO bad that I was happy to take a loss. It’s just that by 2010, FD was simply not the type of property I wanted to deal with anymore. To me, taking the loss was worth not having to think about FD, and it gave me more time to think about other properties. It did (and probably still does) have it’s bad points, but it certainly wasn’t SO bad. People should note that the build quality of units does vary, and while I heard that some had tiles popping up, pipes leaking, etc, my unit didn’t have those.

Now that the price has gone up, I’m glad that the buyer is now sitting on a profit. The buyer took the risk, and it’s only fair the buyer reaps the reward. The idea of being happy when others gain might be an alien concept to some people, but I’ve reached a stage of my life where the financial loss I incurred doesn’t matter that much, and I don’t live my life with the goal of me being the only one to gain and everybody else must lose.

Getting back to the topic, I personally would not buy FD now. But I do recognise that there is potential for improvement, and IF the management company is strong, the place can be turned around (I’ve seen this happen at other places where the residents’ committee was very strong). It will probably take 4 – 5 years though, although signs of improvement should be visible within 1 – 2 years. In the meantime, inflation will continue, and that will help support FD prices.

For people who have decided (or do decide in the future) to buy into FD, I wish you good luck and hope that FD improves. Some of you will have bought it as an investment, some of you will have bought it because it’s what you can afford. For the latter group especially, I hope things work out well.

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im not harping on it, im just replying those people's post MR THX.

since you yourself also sell it at a loss, what makes you even think this place will improve ? do you even think it's easy to change the malay in block A & B ? this place is the most suitable to rent to foreigners, malay, indians...besides, im telling the truth. why are you being so "cant tahan" me say all this things ? it's not that Im lying or anything. in fact, some of them even go there and see it, and admit it....come on.

about the appreciate of price thing, I think it's the residents themselves who think of revising the price themselves, not everyone agree to that(thinking price will appreciate but how can you even appreciate with this kind of property? doh.gif this place has location in a wrong place). and it's hard to change people when majority are foreigners. if you again disagree with me, wait till all the developments are up and you see for yourself. it wont help, at least not fully. and when I go there, it is already under the new JMB, i seriously cant imagine how it is before that...must be very horrendous. it is BAD, not "not SO bad".

but thank you for admitting you sold at loss. Im sure there are bunch of them there selling at loss smile.gif

QUOTE(THX1138 @ May 28 2012, 01:28 PM)
I agree with you that Mr. Chipsley has a grudge against Flora Damansara. It’s one thing to point out the bad points about the place (which is actually helpful for potential buyers so they can make informed decisions), it’s quite another to keep harping about it. When someone does so many posts, day after day, you have to wonder what their agenda is. He’s denied having a grudge, and people who can read will make up their own minds.

I’m an ex-FD owner who sold a Block F unit (high floor) in 2010. Bought from the developer in 2002, sold at a loss in 2010, and was happy to sell even at a loss. Before people misunderstand, it’s not that the place was SO bad that I was happy to take a loss. It’s just that by 2010, FD was simply not the type of property I wanted to deal with anymore. To me, taking the loss was worth not having to think about FD, and it gave me more time to think about other properties. It did (and probably still does) have it’s bad points, but it certainly wasn’t SO bad. People should note that the build quality of units does vary, and while I heard that some had tiles popping up, pipes leaking, etc, my unit didn’t have those.

Now that the price has gone up, I’m glad that the buyer is now sitting on a profit. The buyer took the risk, and it’s only fair the buyer reaps the reward. The idea of being happy when others gain might be an alien concept to some people, but I’ve reached a stage of my life where the financial loss I incurred doesn’t matter that much, and I don’t live my life with the goal of me being the only one to gain and everybody else must lose.

Getting back to the topic, I personally would not buy FD now. But I do recognise that there is potential for improvement, and IF the management company is strong, the place can be turned around (I’ve seen this happen at other places where the residents’ committee was very strong). It will probably take 4 – 5 years though, although signs of improvement should be visible within 1 – 2 years. In the meantime, inflation will continue, and that will help support FD prices.

For people who have decided (or do decide in the future) to buy into FD, I wish you good luck and hope that FD improves. Some of you will have bought it as an investment, some of you will have bought it because it’s what you can afford. For the latter group especially, I hope things work out well.
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me too went to go FD last saturday...on the way to go there the road quite nice and got some construction work there..dont mind that...at the main entrance got 2-3 security but as usual..security in most mid-cost apartment no function at all..also ok for me..then start looking around..block a,b,c,d...look like low-cost apartment...i think ok la since its older than other block...then go up to block at the top hill...new paint and can see its newer than other and environtment ok la...parking also ok got many space...but so near the edge of hill. 

i got chance to talk with some pakcik there FD got potential to be 'mini-foreign-village' because its location quite far from public and low rental. i asked the rental price around 600 but can up a bit if u willing to rent to foreign worker..they dont mind share with 10 people in a house.

i dont have any experience to buy a house but for me im not going to buy FD as my first property. just my 1cent.
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the 10 ppl foreigner will destroy the place, that i assure you. in the long run, you will still need to do renovation.

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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 28 2012, 09:40 PM)
im not harping on it, im just replying those people's post MR THX.

since you yourself also sell it at a loss, what makes you even think this place will improve ? do you even think it's easy to change the malay in block A & B ? this place is the most suitable to rent to foreigners, malay, indians...besides, im telling the truth. why are you being so "cant tahan" me say all this things ? it's not that Im lying or anything. in fact, some of them even go there and see it, and admit it....come on.

about the appreciate of price thing, I think it's the residents themselves who think of revising the price themselves, not everyone agree to that(thinking price will appreciate but how can you even appreciate with this kind of property? doh.gif this place has location in a wrong place). and it's hard to change people when majority are foreigners. if you again disagree with me, wait till all the developments are up and you see for yourself. it wont help, at least not fully. and when I go there, it is already under the new JMB, i seriously cant imagine how it is before that...must be very horrendous. it is BAD, not "not SO bad".

but thank you for admitting you sold at loss. Im sure there are bunch of them there selling at loss smile.gif
I also want to see how the Flora Damansara will survive in the wake of all the multimillion worth of properties around it. smile.gif

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I also want to see how the Flora Damansara will survive in the wake of all the multimillion worth of properties around it. smile.gif
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not sure if the multi-million dollar development means anything to the foreigner & malay residing there. anyway, if anyone feel they will "reap the benefit of their risk", be my guest and buy 1.
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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 28 2012, 10:57 PM)
not sure if the multi-million dollar development means anything to the foreigner & malay residing there. anyway, if anyone feel they will "reap the benefit of their risk", be my guest and buy 1.
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Please don't make such a racist statement. Not only malay are staying there but there are also chinese and indian. Not all malay, chinese and indian can afford to live in such a grand place. Most of them do live in flat or PPRT in some other areas ie Kuala Lumpur.
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QUOTE(richsense @ May 28 2012, 11:16 PM)
Please don't make such a racist statement. Not only malay are staying there but there are also chinese and indian. Not all malay, chinese and indian can afford to live in such a grand place. Most of them do live in flat or PPRT in some other areas ie Kuala Lumpur.
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i think you are the one that thinks racistly, doesnt mean a malay word comes out means im racist(not that i said only malays living there). dont be a fool. that place majority is after all malay, it doesnt need an expert in property to know. the minority are chinese, even indians are more than chinese. mostly chinese buy they rent to foreigners because they only care for returns.

and in reality, the developments means nothing to the malay & indians, obviously they are living in low cost property, do you in your sane mind, think they would be bothered to know there are great development in the area and more importantly, do you think they are bothered to think how great it is their property going to rise in prices ? only selfish person will be thick skin to say yes, they care...the reality is the "rising of the prices" cant help them in any way at all. as one of the forumers said, if they arent able to even pay maintenance monthly, what more can you expect them to think about the rising of the property ?

when I say it is the internal factor that pulls this place down, i think many who invested there are in denial mode because they are too blind to see the internal problems. They are focusing on the IKEA/Tesco/Curve & high class area....sometimes, because of money, people choose to see what they WANT TO SEE.

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AGM is going to be held on the 8th of July. What are the agenda need to be forward?

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AGM is going to be held on the 8th of July. What are the agenda need to be forward?
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I'm glad AGM finally here. Well, since there so many complain and good suggestion in this thread i think is a waste if we don't bring it up. hmm.gif
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I'm glad AGM finally here. Well, since there so many complain and good suggestion in this thread i think is a waste if we don't bring it up.  hmm.gif
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dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... laugh.gif
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dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... laugh.gif
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Be cool man. wink.gif
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Just ignore the fellow. We here looking for improvement while this fellow just hentam here and there. doh.gif
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Wah just saw in classifieds, already reach RM170k for this prop. Seem like the comments here not affecting the agents.

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 11:31 AM)
Just ignore the fellow. We here looking for improvement while this fellow just hentam here and there.  doh.gif
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so are you saying what i say is wrong ? i think you just dont want to admit only. buy until 4 units somemore.

ya, you should put the icon of ketuk ur own kepala somemore.


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Wah just saw in classifieds, already reach RM170k for this prop. Seem like the comments here not affecting the agents.
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who say our comments is intended for the agents ? agent can anytime hike the price, no problem, as miss shaq says put rm300K also no problem brows.gif

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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 29 2012, 01:04 PM)

who say our comments is intended for the agents ? agent can anytime hike the price, no problem, as miss shaq says put rm300K also no problem  brows.gif
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haha I thought agents should be more pro than us (the outsiders). If seller undervalue their prop, agent should at least advice, overvalue nevermind?
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haha I thought agents should be more pro than us (the outsiders). If seller undervalue their prop, agent should at least advice, overvalue nevermind?
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my point is, their job is to purposely hike prices irregardless how rubbish the property looks like. this country dont like them until 2 got killed, imagine that...how people dislike the way they hike price ?
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so are you saying what i say is wrong ? i think you just dont want to admit only. buy until 4 units somemore.

ya, you should put the icon of ketuk ur own kepala somemore.

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I replaying how to improve situation in FD and is that some how seems wrong for you ?

What so if i got 4 units there, do you have any gain or loss on my business ?

I got no grudge on you and i starting to wonder do you have on me.
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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 03:30 PM)
I replaying how to improve situation in FD and is that some how seems wrong for you ?

What so if i got 4 units there, do you have any gain or loss on my business ?

I got no grudge on you and i starting to wonder do you have on me.
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i obviously dont give a damn how many units you own. it's not my business yes, but since this is a forum, I have my freedom to say anything to the people here. obviously what Ive said is true, you dont have tot ell people to ignore me, if you yourself cant even notice what is wrong with your property.
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QUOTE(mrchipsley @ May 29 2012, 03:39 PM)
i obviously dont give a damn how many units you own. it's not my business yes, but since this is a forum, I have my freedom to say anything to the people here. obviously what Ive said is true, you dont have tot ell people to ignore me, if you yourself cant even notice what is wrong with your property.
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Than you shouldn't bring up how many properties i got at there if " dont give a damn how many units i own".

The property got wrong or right is fair for a person judge itself. Yes you can advice regards the property but final judgement will be the person itself.

Your wrong might be other people right.

Besides, we are discussion about the AGM and i bring out what issued to talk about and i stated clear that this thread bring out a lot of negativity side and what the use if we can improve it.

A round discussion with the community, owners, tenants, agents and managements regards those issues.

And you practically don't agree with my idea, i wonder why : "dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... "

Yes, we are thinking highly and of course we looking for improvement. Is there any wrong in that ?

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 03:48 PM)
Than you shouldn't bring up how many properties i got at there if " dont give a damn how many units i own".

The property got wrong or right is fair for a person judge itself. Yes you can advice regards the property but final judgement will be the person itself.

Your wrong might be other people right.

Besides, we are discussion about the AGM and i bring out what issued to talk about and i stated clear that this thread bring out a lot of negativity side and what the use if we can improve it.

A round discussion with the community, owners, tenants, agents and managements regards those issues.

And you practically don't agree with my idea, i wonder why : "dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... "

Yes, we are thinking highly and of course we looking for improvement. Is there any wrong in that ?
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i bring it up to show that people who own a lot dont even give a damn about what Ive said. and certainly you dont have any right to tell ppl to ignore me. Im saying that not just for you to listen to anyway.

whether you want to improve or not certainly is not my business. whether it is wrong or not, i dont care. up to you since you think so highly about your apt. see how long you all can discuss la.
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Please guys.

Forumers here need some good info.No need bashing each other.If any of you 'dont care', just go away and proceed to other place.We also dont care about you.

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my point is, their job is to purposely hike prices irregardless how rubbish the property looks like. this country dont like them until 2 got killed, imagine that...how people dislike the way they hike price ?
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i agree with you on the bolded part. agents nowadays are very greedy, unintelligent, cunning and ridiculous. they selling without knowing anything just simply mark up the price and tell u "it's below market value. market value is 20% more than this one" and upon checking, you will know all the words are rubbish. so far i have never encountered any good and honest agents. mostly are arrogant and stupid.
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Thank you everyone for the information concerning Flora Damansara

I have gave my advice to the young indian lady to go ahead buying Flora Damansara.

Appraisal is by considering the following

1) She plan to stay for the next 10 years.
2) She will rent out some room to some other indian office lady working in / around Damansara Perdana.
3) Evalution is based on payback method considering some huge saying avoiding the tol/ petrol by her and her boyfriend, other info gather from the lowyat forum.
4) Potential for Damansara is huge for both rental increase and capital gain.

Good luck to those who support this Flora Damansara


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FD rental now RM1,100. Congrats Alvin for your purchase.
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 29 2012, 04:52 PM)
Please guys.

Forumers here need some good info.No need bashing each other.If any of you 'dont care', just go away and proceed to other place.We also dont care about you.
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excuse me, I know you are directing to me by using my pharses, But please open your eyes first before you start accusing something like a blind person. Im not bothered with whether you care or not.


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i agree with you on the bolded part. agents nowadays are very greedy, unintelligent, cunning and ridiculous. they selling without knowing anything just simply mark up the price and tell u "it's below market value. market value is 20% more than this one" and upon checking, you will know all the words are rubbish. so far i have never encountered any good and honest agents. mostly are arrogant and stupid.
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thank you. i speak all my words with much honesty. not only you have agreed, many too have agreed. only selfish & self-centred people here disagree with me because they have units there. If you cant take constructive critism, dont expect people to buy flora damansara at RIDICILOUS PRICES.

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i bring it up to show that people who own a lot dont even give a damn about what Ive said. and certainly you dont have any right to tell ppl to ignore me. Im saying that not just for you to listen to anyway.

whether you want to improve or not certainly is not my business. whether it is wrong or not, i dont care. up to you since you think so highly about your apt. see how long you all can discuss la.
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Dude, you do have a grudge don't you?

We were talking about listing out what to be brought up for the AGM and you go ahead and slam it down with one sarcastic line. Like potenza10 highlighted, purchasers need good info and what you are providing is starting to sound worse that you have no interest in the place at all! Once more like potenza10 said, if you don't have any interest in the location feel free to go away. Honestly... what is really your issue?



On the brighter note smile.gif
Good to know the AGM is coming up. I think FD has quite a lot of projects up at hand, however if I were to list them down the below would be of my attention

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?

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FD rental now RM1,100. Congrats Alvin for your purchase.
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rental can be any number you want. the question is who is the one renting from you....why not you go and congratulate every resident in FD ? they should celebrate this isnt it ? doh.gif


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Dude, you do have a grudge don't you? - why should I ? the very reason if I dont reply people's post, people will misinterpret medoh.gif

We were talking about listing out what to be brought up for the AGM and you go ahead and slam it down with one sarcastic line. 
- to begin with, do you know which one am i replying to ?

Like potenza10 highlighted, purchasers need good info and what you are providing is starting to sound worse that you have no interest in the place at all! Once more like potenza10 said, if you don't have any interest in the location feel free to go away.
- so, Im replying to him, is that wrong ? in fact, he has no right to even ask people to leave especially people that already provided input.

Honestly... what is really your issue?
- why are you bothered now ?  ohmy.gif you should have started to ask this question quite awhile ago, but again I guess you guys are being defensive and taking my critism wrong way.

On the brighter note smile.gif
Good to know the AGM is coming up. I think FD has quite a lot of projects up at hand, however if I were to list them down the below would be of my attention

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.  doh.gif  inside not yet solved, he go and ask outside pulak....
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?
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QUOTE(lilac @ May 29 2012, 06:44 PM)
On the brighter note smile.gif
Good to know the AGM is coming up. I think FD has quite a lot of projects up at hand, however if I were to list them down the below would be of my attention
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Please add in your questions or ideas. smile.gif

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?
4) How much is the uncollected M. Fee and what is the JMB going to do about it.
5) Ban those lorry operator who put up sticker or print in the lift or wall. If they want to advertise, do so through the office FOC
6) When will we get our Strata title
7) Solve water problem once and for all
8) Make sure all the corridors are well lit
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Anyone can confirm this? "My guess is Empire Resort is just next to Forest Hill Damansara which in turn is nearest to Flora Damansara. "Taken from here http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.p...d126d508f230305
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Mrchipsley,

Its ok if you feel that you have voice out your concern/opinion related to FD and its not right or wrong if someone else didnt agree with you. Just move on.Cheers!
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Mrchipsley,

Its ok if you feel that you have voice out your concern/opinion related to FD and its not right or wrong if someone else didnt agree with you. Just move on.Cheers!
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move on ? there's no right or wrong, why need to move on ? unless you guys are offended for the wrong reasons...
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move on ? there's no right or wrong, why need to move on ? unless you guys are offended for the wrong reasons...
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You got every right to give your view and everybody should respect his right. notworthy.gif
Feel free to give your view on how to improve this place or the problems, thanks.
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I think someone got a bad history with FD..all round he hentam..lol! Be cool man.
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 29 2012, 09:39 PM)
I think someone got a bad history with FD..all round he hentam..lol! Be cool man.
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yah, but the thing is that guy didnt buy FD wor, he choose to buy others. any bad history possible happen there ?
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QUOTE(pekanmy @ May 29 2012, 08:29 PM)
Please add in your questions or ideas. smile.gif

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?
4) How much is the uncollected M. Fee and what is the JMB going to do about it.
5) Ban those lorry operator who put up sticker or print in the lift or wall. If they want to advertise, do so through the office FOC
6) When will we get our Strata title
7) Solve water problem once and for all
8) Make sure all the corridors are well lit
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Haha, pekanmy, if this is a facebook page, I would definitely click "like" on your comment.

I am keen to know the deadline of the projects, particularly, the parking system and the smart access.

and also some other issues that you raised out. ^^


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Mrchipsley,

Its ok if you feel that you have voice out your concern/opinion related to FD and its not right or wrong if someone else didnt agree with you. Just move on.Cheers!
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Yeap, everyone has the right to voice out his/her own opinion, as long as it is not too sarcastic or racist.


Let say, "Malaysia is not good enough". Some may just say we should improve but without action. Some may say we should improve... by providing proposal. Some may just say Change Government. Some may say... And some may say Malaysia is like a sxxt and we need to migrate, and ask other people to migrate too. Of course, nothing should be considered wrong. It is just a matter how do you treat Malaysia and Malaysian. Same to Flora and "Florian".

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Haha, pekanmy, if this is a facebook page, I would definitely click "like" on your comment.

I am keen to know the deadline of the projects, particularly, the parking system and the smart access.

and also some other issues that you raised out. ^^
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Please add in your questions or ideas. smile.gif

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?
4) How much is the uncollected M. Fee and what is the JMB going to do about it.
5) Ban those lorry operator who put up sticker or print in the lift or wall. If they want to advertise, do so through the office FOC
6) When will we get our Strata title
7) Solve water problem once and for all
8) Make sure all the corridors are well lit
9) cat poop cry.gif
10) Glass wall /door with security tag /CCTV at each block lobby.
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QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ May 29 2012, 10:23 PM)
Haha, pekanmy, if this is a facebook page, I would definitely click "like" on your comment.

I am keen to know the deadline of the projects, particularly, the parking system and the smart access.

and also some other issues that you raised out. ^^


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Yeap, everyone has the right to voice out his/her own opinion, as long as it is not too sarcastic or racist.
Let say, "Malaysia is not good enough". Some may just say we should improve but without action. Some may say we should improve... by providing proposal. Some may just say Change Government. Some may say... And some may say Malaysia is like a sxxt and we need to migrate, and ask other people to migrate too. Of course, nothing should be considered wrong. It is just a matter how do you treat Malaysia and Malaysian. Same to Flora and "Florian".
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as i said, if you felt it is racist, then it's your problem. im not sure why many are so ignorant that im saying that place is definitely a malay area...having said that, did i say there's no indians & chinese ? doh.gif
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as i said, if you felt it is racist, then it's your problem. im not sure why many are so ignorant that im saying that place is definitely a malay area...having said that, did i say there's no indians & chinese ?  doh.gif
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cukup, enough is enough.
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What's wrong if it is a malay area??
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i guess till now you dont see his view point. he's replying to you that it is hard to get the price appreciation up due to the environment of this place. This place maintenance is really bad, as much as you disagree. even you can see some plastics in the lift. Having said that, I sincerely think his statements is not intended to make racists comments, but to make you understand that usually in klang valley, the area that have malay & usually foreigners is difficult in terms of price appreciation. and in replying to you, because you are the one that start accusing him as racist when you dont even understand what he is trying to say. His comments is always tied to property, and the people who stay there. He didnt specifically says that this race will do this or do that, so this place is no good. he already say out why he think this way, it is you who dont see it. and my guess is, you feel offended because you own a unit there...


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cukup, enough is enough.
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Now the only problem is the JMB who manage these apartment, not malay or foreigner who live there. If chinese or indian lives there but JMB also cannot pakai, the condition is still same.
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Now the only problem is the JMB who manage these apartment, not malay or foreigner who live there. If chinese or indian lives there but JMB also cannot pakai, the condition is still same.
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so, are you saying JMB manage to collect all maintenance fees from those people ? hmm.gif

anyway, im very certain what mr chips say is right...but not that I live or own a condo there, so........want to debate then continue to debate lah.....no matter how long the debate, there is an underlying issues. nod.gif icon_idea.gif
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Since residents there saying that their water meter will be clamped if fail to pay maintenance fee, so i assume YES!

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A woman was found dead outside her rented apartment at Flora Damansara, Selangor early this morning.

22-year-old Yasuhaidah Yeop was found lying in a pool of blood by neighbours who had rushed to her unit after hearing her screams.

Petaling Jaya OCPD ACP Arjunaidi Mohamed said initial investigations showed the victim died of slash wounds on her neck.

It is learnt that the sister left Yasuhaidah, who was watching television, in the apartment around 11pm last night, to go Raya shopping at Jalan Tunku Abdul Rahman.

Yasuhaidah works at a known child development and learning centre.

Her body was sent to Universiti Malaya Medical Centre for post-mortem.

http://www.ntv7.com.my/7edition/local-en/B...1345194257.html

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A woman was found dead outside her rented apartment at Flora Damansara, Selangor early this morning.

22-year-old Yasuhaidah Yeop was found lying in a pool of blood by neighbours who had rushed to her unit after hearing her screams.

Petaling Jaya OCPD ACP Arjunaidi Mohamed said initial investigations showed the victim died of slash wounds on her neck.

It is learnt that the sister left Yasuhaidah, who was watching television, in the apartment around 11pm last night, to go Raya shopping at Jalan Tunku Abdul Rahman.

Yasuhaidah works at a known child development and learning centre.

Her body was sent to Universiti Malaya Medical Centre for post-mortem.

http://www.ntv7.com.my/7edition/local-en/B...1345194257.html
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Yaa...saw the news last nite..very scary..
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Gosh. Which block is this?
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is block A...
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With the latest murder case FD's value is sure dropping even further liao...
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With the latest murder case FD's value is sure dropping even further liao...
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Also the news seem is more to murder-link rather than being robbed.


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I think cases like this hard to avoid as it can happen anywhere.

Also the news seem is more to murder-link rather than being robbed.
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my goodness, free publicity to this condo?
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It's reported in Sin-Chew daily today, the victim had 70-over stab wounds shocking.gif



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I think it is best to close this thread and continue the discussion on Flora Damansara over here;

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346365/+280
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When is this flora damansara completion year? Any taikor know??
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the Star paper oso reported nthe teribble condition of the dried pool etc few months ago, and abandoned vehicles...i know many investors bought but for me it is simply too high dense and run down..only good thing is the location..u must undeerstand, once the prices cross RM250-300K, the buyers profile different they dunt want so old looking bad tenants condition condos, and most buyer profile for rm100k-200k not so strong financial profiles, or have records

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Any owners here want to let go their Flora Damansara for 200k? Please PM me smile.gif
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Block H unit for rent...refurbished..anyone interest pls pm me..
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no matter what happened its still dirt cheap at 200k (850sqf).
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http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...-attempted-rape
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wah looks like Flora Damansara again in newspaper after 3years. tis time "Nigerian dies from beating over attempted rape" sweat.gif
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wah looks like Flora Damansara again in newspaper after 3years. tis time "Nigerian dies from beating over attempted rape"  sweat.gif
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justice is served brows.gif wonder whether those took part in the beating will kena anything. but hearing from my condo commitee they say the P is so corrupt nowadays, if paid enough, they will let go... so best to beat after caught.. before hand to police. i personally saw my guards beating dis indo snatch thieve wif their nightsticks.
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justice is served brows.gif wonder whether those took part in the beating will kena anything. but hearing from my condo commitee they say the P is so corrupt nowadays, if paid enough, they will let go... so best to beat after caught.. before hand to police. i personally saw my guards beating dis indo snatch thieve wif their nightsticks.
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maybe they could be fined some $$ for the act sweat.gif
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and now there's been a shooting. wah this condo so femes recently... for all the wrong reasons..

http://www.nst.com.my/news/2015/10/police-...se-suspects?m=1

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With the latest murder case FD's value is sure dropping even further liao...
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Any potential for the prices to increase for this project? Worth to invest?
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Yes but need hold on to it or at least until when Empire City is ready.
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Is there any direct link road to empire city? Saw from map its only 1 access from empire damansara?
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one of the set back for this area is lack of car park.


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This project has low cost (650sf), low medium (750sf), and medium cost (850sf), very confusing. I think the later has been drag down by the low cost.
So many drama happens, rape cases, commit sutside, drug dealing, blackie village, water and electricity cut, abandon swimming pool, management office run away with sinking funds, and etc.
Purchasers need to think twice
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With the Empire City handover these "rape cases, commit sutside, drug dealing, blackie village, water and electricity cut, abandon swimming pool, management office run away with sinking funds" still hangs there sweat.gif
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Is there any direct link road to empire city? Saw from map its only 1 access from empire damansara?
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Flora is very close to Empire City 1 and 2. Empire City 2 is just next to Flora damansara and there will be link bridge from Empire 1 and 2.
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Hi..Any one know the current value market for flora dmansara block A and B (650sqf)? Please let me know. Thanks
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heard got bomb?

true or not? hmm.gif

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heard got bomb?

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lol... the bomb was a Damansara Perdana - Metropolitant Square. Not Damansara Perdana - Flora Damansara la. lol
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lol... the bomb was a Damansara Perdana - Metropolitant Square. Not Damansara Perdana - Flora Damansara la. lol
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Any drop in price for the Metropolitant Square?

Flora Damansara price still flat.
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Flora damansara for rent fully Reno RM 900 2 car park & rm750 basic .

Pm if anyone interested.
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ma pren community. surprise if anyone willing to live there unless really no other choice.
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sadly...everyday i drive pass flora...the name sounds good, but it is rather pathetic looking at the dilapidated state...
as time goes by, i guess its gonna be taken over by kawan seberang, pak pasir, indo, myanmar, rohingga, viets....on second thought, they might not even want to stay there!!!
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this condo got a popular new video
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this condo got a popular new video
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Popular racist video tongue.gif

Anyway, pak hitam majority is what religion? Christian right? So how can that joker claim Flora is majority Muslim staying?
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 22 2017, 08:21 AM)
Popular racist video  tongue.gif

Anyway, pak hitam majority is what religion? Christian right? So how can that joker claim Flora is majority Muslim staying?
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Haha not entirely true. A lot of Africans are actually Muslim too. Even almost half of Nigerians are Muslim so it's not a clear-cut thing.
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Haha not entirely true. A lot of Africans are actually Muslim too. Even almost half of Nigerians are Muslim so it's not a clear-cut thing.
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Muslim or not, I am sure. But I see so many 'yam seng'
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hahaha...i saw the video too,the first 2 aims are good, but restrict or reflect girls with sexy outfit is mean prostitution is not logic.

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hahaha...i saw the video too,the first 2 aims are good, but restrict or reflect girls with sexy outfit is mean prostitution is not logic.
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to me "reflect girls with sexy outfit is mean prostitution" meant no different than "reflect his own religion as terrorism "

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hahaha...i saw the video too,the first 2 aims are good, but restrict or reflect girls with sexy outfit is mean prostitution is not logic.
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to me "reflect girls with sexy outfit is mean prostitution" meant no different than "reflect his own religion as terrorism "
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I wish he could have finished his last sentence " that will create.... (arousal to people like me)"
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 22 2017, 08:21 AM)
Popular racist video  tongue.gif

Anyway, pak hitam majority is what religion? Christian right? So how can that joker claim Flora is majority Muslim staying?
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Those PH u see in Malaysia is mostly Muslim..
That's why they love here.. Much better situation & living conditions.. And our gomen welcoming them too because of Muslim brotherhood tongue.gif
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Good article about that incident (with video) and also about the community at Flora Damansara:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...7URIjk33452l.97
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 22 2017, 11:50 PM)
Good article about that incident (with video) and also about the community at Flora Damansara:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...7URIjk33452l.97
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My hands up and salute as this guy got the guts to tell of the Africans as compared to some of us who only good in becoming keyboard warriors and condeming the AfricanS without doing anything.

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http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...s-behave-badly/

Flora Damansara residents claim Africans behave badly

Residents claim open drunkenness, prostitution and molestation have become even more prevalent in the last couple of years.
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51 foreigners nabbed in the Ops Black Flora on Friday.
Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...P7rzhbqsXm7e.99

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51 foreigners nabbed in the Ops Black Flora on Friday.
Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...P7rzhbqsXm7e.99
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Good news. market value of Flora gonna increase without those Africans staying. especially the illegal ones.
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Good news. market value of Flora gonna increase without those Africans staying. especially the illegal ones.
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they ll goto another taman, so another taman market value ll drop tongue.gif
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Good news. market value of Flora gonna increase without those Africans staying. especially the illegal ones.
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Soon or later Flora will be zone tutup aurat and Muslim Mesra area.
value sure will continue up up up....
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Good news. market value of Flora gonna increase without those Africans staying. especially the illegal ones.
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actually no different la whether illegal or not.
what is going to happen if the legal ones with valid document causing all kinds of problems?
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Ph is plague.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 22 2017, 10:00 PM)
Those PH u see in Malaysia is mostly Muslim..
That's why they love here.. Much better situation & living conditions.. And our gomen welcoming them too because of Muslim brotherhood tongue.gif
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Actually those that you mentioned are called 'maprens'. They are indeed like plague. When they congregate around an area because owners are willing to let to them, the area will soon be filled with them and its very hard to eradicate them. Just look at KIP and another Venice Hill apt at Cheras where there was a riot by these maprens.

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and when owners band together to keep them out, some self righteous pricks label them "racist". Oh well.
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Cheap lelong unit available.
Medium cost unit. (not the low cost block).

H-23-12A, Flora Damansara, No. 1, Jalan PJU 8/9, Bandar Damansara Perdana
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 166,500🔥🔥
Leasehold
850 sq.ft
Auction: 25-Oct-2018 (Thu)

Bank valuation RM300k for 850 sqft now. You can check on brickz for transacted subsale record.
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Another bank lelong unit in Block H, starting 261k... . The fate of this unit will depend on the performance for another bank lelong unit in block H starting from 166k..

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5613...or-for-RM261000

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IIRC original price 90k back in 2003.
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Wow.. another 2 bank lelong units in Block H check in today... So currently have 4 units on lelong?

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5605...or-for-RM166500

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5613...or-for-RM261000

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5618...or-for-RM280000

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5618...or-for-RM300000


A shop at the lower ground floor on bank lelong as well...

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/4837...or-for-RM270000
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 18 2018, 12:22 AM)
Cheap lelong unit available.
Medium cost unit. (not the low cost block).

H-23-12A, Flora Damansara, No. 1, Jalan PJU 8/9, Bandar Damansara Perdana
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 166,500🔥🔥
Leasehold
850 sq.ft
Auction:  25-Oct-2018 (Thu)

Bank valuation RM300k for 850 sqft now. You can check on brickz for transacted subsale record.
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I still see many less than rm200k at iproperty. Surprised with brickz data.

If really rm300k now, means flora amazingly appreciated in value when others mostly stangnant or dropping.

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I still see many less than rm200k at iproperty. Surprised with brickz data.

If really rm300k now, means flora amazingly appreciated in value when others mostly stangnant or dropping.
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Mark up to bank valuation.
In such a slow market today, yet got so many transacted subsale record for Flora Damansara. Impressive.
Maybe due to you can purchase units here at minimal or zero cost or even getting cash back out of the deal.
Should be the best performing property for medium cost apartment category.

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Bank lelong low cost unit starting 102k only... wait till drop below 100k? hmm.gif

https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5659...or-for-RM102060

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Master title... alot banks not finance.

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Almost 50% below bank valuation lelong unit available now.
Come with 1 Car Park slot. Most units come without a car park here.
Medium cost apartment.

F-05-05, Block F, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 162,000🔥🔥
Leasehold
850 sqft
Auction: 12-Jan-2019 (Sat)

Bank valuation / subsale transaction:

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Will this bring competition to the trees bukit lanjan in the years to come?

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 30 2018, 04:04 AM)
Almost 50% below bank valuation lelong unit available now.
Come with 1 Car Park slot. Most units come without a car park here.
Medium cost apartment.

F-05-05, Block F, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 162,000🔥🔥
Leasehold
850 sqft
Auction: 12-Jan-2019 (Sat)

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Unit sold at reserve price 162k. Single bidder winning unchallenged.
Good catch. thumbsup.gif
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Will this bring competition to the trees bukit lanjan in the years to come?
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Price difference very big though
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Wah the Block A & B (low cost flat) actually got award good JMB quality here:


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Medium cost unit sold at low cost pricing drool.gif
This unit:

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Sold at reserve price 137.7k.
Single bidder win.
Owner planning to flip.


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Once again another cheap lelong unit available.
Vacant unit.
Chinese owner.
But no car park slot.

Almost 50% below bank valuation lelong unit available now.
Medium cost apartment.

H-23-12A, Flora Damansara, No. 1, Jalan PJU 8/9, Bandar Damansara Perdana, 47820 Petaling Jaya
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 149,900🔥🔥
Leasehold
850 sqft
Auction: 24-May-2019 (Fri)

Bank valuation / subsale transaction (1 of the hottest transacted property in the market. 100+ units transacted over 1 year. I bet no other property got so many transactions recorded):

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2 cheap lelong unit check in from Block D (750sqft, medium cost block).
Both non bumi unit.
Recent also got hot news from this place.

D-03A-11, Block D, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 138,600🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
750 sqft
Auction: 10-Aug-2019 (Sat)
*Non bumi lot

D-11-05, Block D, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 145,800🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
750 sqft
Auction: 10-Aug-2019 (Sat)
*Non bumi lot

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2 cheap lelong unit check in from Block D (750sqft, medium cost block).
Both non bumi unit.
Recent also got hot news from this place.

D-03A-11, Block D, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 138,600🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
750 sqft
Auction: 10-Aug-2019 (Sat)
*Non bumi lot

D-11-05, Block D, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 145,800🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
750 sqft
Auction: 10-Aug-2019 (Sat)
*Non bumi lot

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Both units sold.
Lower floor unit from 138.6k, sold at 150k.
Higher floor unit sold at RP 145.8k.

Good catch. thumbsup.gif
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Cheap lelong unit check in at below 150k.
Medium cost apartment.
Non bumi lot. Vacant unit.
Got a unit come with 2 car park slots.

H-06-15, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 145,800🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
850 sqft
Auction: Mid June 2020
*Non bumi lot
*Vacant unit

H-11-12, Flora Damansara
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 154,200🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2117
850 sqft, 2 car par slots
Auction: Mid June 2020
*Non bumi lot
*Vacant unit


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Another lelong unit sold.
From Block D 750sqft unit.
Single bidder won unchallenged at 138,174.


Good catch?


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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 30 2023, 03:58 PM)
Another lelong unit sold.
From Block D 750sqft unit.
Single bidder won unchallenged at 138,174.
Good catch?
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Yes..i think nice..

Market value i think around 200k
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Another lelong unit sold here at cheap price.
Medium cost block.
850sqft.
Bank value is almost double this lelong price.

Good catch?


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actually the location of flora is not too bad in damansara perdana..however, i read previously
there were many issues with types of tenant, maintenance etc...so maybe that is why prices are dropping
like crazy
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You won't want to stay there. Many years ago, there were a lot of African tenants there. The place is pretty run down and the layout of the roads up to and down is not convenient. There is massive development surrounding the area (including but not limited to empire damansara). Your money is better invested elsewhere.
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5 blocks with 9000 residents....talk about high density. Across LDP there is empire damansara and then there is damansara perdana. That area is crazy dense.
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Lelong unit sold today.
Medium cost unit 850sqft at RM159K.
Single bidder won unchallenged.

Good catch at Damansara Perdana area?
But need to bear with lift problems.



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Here if fire like that day, life is at high risk.
Filthy and many foreigners live here.
When Immigration come do operasi can see and hear many run like hell.

If got budget better buy the Exsim projects just outside of Flora Damansara.
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BRICKS transacted price many units sold 370-380k

Iproperty adverts many units advertised below 260k.


Something is very wrong. seems like there is a big group of manipulators in the market. markup to 370 and 380k consistently.
trying to affect the valuation.


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BRICKS transacted price many units sold 370-380k

Iproperty adverts many units advertised below 260k.
Something is very wrong. seems like there is a big group of manipulators in the market. markup to 370 and 380k consistently.
trying to affect the valuation.
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I more trust Bricks than Iproperty or Propertyguru is somewhat not fully trusted. They usually give below market price
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QUOTE(ShonYap @ Jan 28 2024, 02:35 AM)
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BRICKS transacted price many units sold 370-380k

Iproperty adverts many units advertised below 260k.
Something is very wrong. seems like there is a big group of manipulators in the market. markup to 370 and 380k consistently.
trying to affect the valuation.
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Markup for cash out.
Simple only

The property agent manage to find a bank whose valuer able to give high value of this property (mostly small valuer firm)

So they nego with owner to markup higher so the buyer can cash out extra money above purchase price

For example:
Real price RM250k
Markup price RM370k
Loan 90% - RM333k
Extra RM83k (10% need pay agent for consultation fee)

You help me, I help u

*If buyer din pay and kena lelong and management of the bank found out the property should only value at RM250k, valuer most likely will be blacklisted and the bank officer also in trouble

No risk to agent


Want better example? Check Scott garden at bricks

60-70 units transacted at RM650k while actual value only RM300k+

All buyer apply same bank



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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Feb 1 2024, 05:12 PM)
Markup for cash out.
Simple only

The property agent manage to find a bank whose valuer able to give high value of this property (mostly small valuer firm)

So they nego with owner to markup higher so the buyer can cash out extra money above purchase price

For example:
Real price RM250k
Markup price RM370k
Loan 90% - RM333k
Extra RM83k (10% need pay agent for consultation fee)

You help me, I help u

*If buyer din pay and kena lelong and management of the bank found out the property should only value at RM250k, valuer most likely will be blacklisted and the bank officer also in trouble

No risk to agent
Want better example? Check Scott garden at bricks

60-70 units transacted at RM650k while actual value only RM300k+

All buyer apply same bank
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What happen with the Scott garden unit? Is the buyer able to sustain?
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Feb 1 2024, 05:12 PM)
Markup for cash out.
Simple only

The property agent manage to find a bank whose valuer able to give high value of this property (mostly small valuer firm)

So they nego with owner to markup higher so the buyer can cash out extra money above purchase price

For example:
Real price RM250k
Markup price RM370k
Loan 90% - RM333k
Extra RM83k (10% need pay agent for consultation fee)

You help me, I help u

*If buyer din pay and kena lelong and management of the bank found out the property should only value at RM250k, valuer most likely will be blacklisted and the bank officer also in trouble

No risk to agent
Want better example? Check Scott garden at bricks

60-70 units transacted at RM650k while actual value only RM300k+

All buyer apply same bank
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thanks for sharing..wow agent really untung lei. Buyer just...take future money now
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Another lelong unit sold.
Block D 750sqft unit.

From 123,930.
Sold at 130K.

Good catch?


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Another lelong unit sold.
Block D 750sqft unit.

From 123,930.
Sold at 130K.

Good catch?
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